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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:52am On Oct 19, 2021
Oh sure. Noted my good man.

TheGoodJoe:
@TheSuperNerd

That is the striker actually does a lot of running around the 18 yard box to spread the defence and give room to the 10 that does the shooting.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:53am On Oct 19, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Harry Kane work rate monster ?

I am shocked you guys did not know. What have you guys been watching when Harry Kane is playing?


Kane does not get enough credit for his work rate and I cannot remember a more hardworking display from a centre forward. Every time I spotted Kane he was always on the move and he played like a centre half, midfielder and striker rolled into one.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-kane-is-now-complete-package-rbqx92z0t

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:55am On Oct 19, 2021
12large1:


Moses Simon is overall a more complete player than messi after all, he tracks back and defends for his team better than messi


Don't mind dem grin grin grin

Dt narration of work rate is even silly ...because not all strikers must possess same style of play.u can only say u prefer dis types of strikers to dis type because of d way he plays, and not coming here to say he's a more complete striker.. So d likes of aguero,ronaldo delima dt are ball carrying strikers with very good goal scoring records are not better Dan drogba and co(power playing strikers)... Shio,everybody with his own unique style of play..d only thing we can use to judge dem is what connects d two(wc is deir primary aim of been a striker and dt is goals)


It's just like saying d school shld recognize and award d best student to a second class upper student simply because he has d best xters,atten d classes early,(95percent attendance),assist lecturers in his dept,submit assignment early

And deres a 1st class student in d same dept somewhere who doesn't do half of what d oda std does in oda areas...no b juju b DAT

D only thing d school will use to judge both std is deir academic result outcome; wc is deir main reason of been a student,nobody really cares abt ur oda attributes as a student when its time to recognize d best in d dept wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:56am On Oct 19, 2021
TheSuperNerd:
Please stop this. Harry Kane clearly has better workrate and is more well rounded than Giroud. Even their workrate heatmaps laugh at you. So stop this cheap referral to a lie that was gotten from someone's pit of uninformed gobbledygooks.

And if we rate Strikers by only who score pass then explain to us why Osimhen is still far more rated and will always be considered better than Simy and Onuachu who bagged more goals than he did last season.

Abeg rest. Kane's workrate and all round game >>>>> Giroud's

And Osimhen's workrate and all round game clearly trumps Häland's.

Simple point. Finito.



Why should I rest exactly ?

So I cannot give good points in peace

Why are you bringing simmy and onuachu here ,you keep on running heltal sketal from the main arguement

Simmy and onuachu aren’t playing for a big team like Napoli okay and they aren’t even young talents ,it’s common sense to tell you that when they where both 22 they where struggling ,Victor was purchased for a record fee so that alone kills them off

You keep on running from the Haaland arguement says it all

You have no point oga ,practice what you preach or make you self rest
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 10:57am On Oct 19, 2021
Not only did haaland score 41 goals in 41 games last season. He also had 12 assists. The guy assists last season was even higher than osimehn goals. This season alone, he has 25 goals in all competitions. Osimehn can become at his level in the future, but he has to earn it by proving himself.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:57am On Oct 19, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Harry Kane has been one of the most improved players in the Premier League this season.

He has been known for scoring goals for much of his career and he is one of the most lethal strikers in the world.

However, the Englishman has gotten better at other things this season as well.

His number of assists has been hailed in this campaign, but one thing that isn’t talked about in his game well enough is his defensive contribution.

The England striker has also become a better player when helping the team to defend this season and Football Daily has recently posted about his defensive stats and they have got Spurs fans talking.

The post compares Kane’s defensive stats to that of Toby Alderweireld and Eric Dier and it appears that Kane beats them in some.

The striker has a better recovery rate that Alderweireld, he has won more duels than both players and he has made more interception than the Belgian.


https://theboyhotspur.com/so-much-more-than-a-striker-harry-kane-defensive-stats-blow-some-fans-away/

Me, I don't even need articles. I have their overall heatmaps to compare. I have proper eye tests utilised over the years.
I am stunned folks dare think Giroud offers more than Harry Kane just in a bid to push their ill-informed agenda.

As in eh, some folks' ball knowledge on this thread is quite laughable. grin

It's like watching....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:57am On Oct 19, 2021
TheSuperNerd:


He is resting naa... with a fine babe by his side. grin


ahh my Doc, no spoil me for my mummy poo, ah don repent ooo

such a fine bae, no wonder he always pack defenders, as if he defending the bae from another guy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:58am On Oct 19, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


I am shocked you guys did not know. What have you guys been watching when Harry Kane is playing?


Kane does not get enough credit for his work rate and I cannot remember a more hardworking display from a centre forward. Every time I spotted Kane he was always on the move and he played like a centre half, midfielder and striker rolled into one.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-kane-is-now-complete-package-rbqx92z0t

Haaland is better and rated than osimhen

This is the only argument I want to be involved in before you begin write me long epistle with blue ink and ends up saying nothing grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:59am On Oct 19, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Why should I rest exactly ?

So I cannot give good points in peace

Why are you bringing simmy and onuachu here ,you keep on running heltal sketal from the main arguement

Simmy and onuachu aren’t playing for a big team like Napoli okay and they aren’t even young talents ,it’s common sense to tell you that when they where both 22 they where struggling ,Victor was purchased for a record fee so that alone kills them off

You keep on running from the Haaland arguement says it all

You have no point oga ,practice what you preach or make you self rest

I clearly addressed the Haaland discussion but your eyes keep seeing double that is why you cannot see what was addressed.

Meanwhile, Giroud have more workrate than Harry kane... according to stories from someone's pit of uninformed yammerings. This is why you should rest! grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:59am On Oct 19, 2021
Danielnino00:


Firmino was out injured for a couple of weeks... You didn't even know...

And Jota suffered a knock during the international break with Portugal and was rested as a precaution.. I bet you don't know that either.. just yammering about..

At the end, both Jota and Firmino aren't 18 yard box tap in strikers...they fit Klopp system perfectly..
So whatever argument you are building here is dead on arrival...

I don’t follow Liverpool but I know Jota benched Firmino for some games this season and last simply because he was a better goalscorer, it doesn't matter what kind of striker Jota is but the point is Klopp wanted more goals that's why Firmino sat on the bench

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:00am On Oct 19, 2021
12large1:
Not only did haaland score 41 goals in 41 games last season. He also had 12 assists. The guy assists last season was even higher than osimehn goals. This season alone, he has 25 goals in all competitions. Osimehn can become on his level in the future, but he has to earn it by proving himself.

Haaland offers only goals but how come he do assist grin

He already have 3 assist at the bundesliga already this season but he offers only goals

What do some people take us for self ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 11:00am On Oct 19, 2021
andrewbaba44:


They will come and try to change this narrative for you as if that’s not the point they are bringing

They said I am sentimental now grin

Very very inconsistent human beings. Tomorrow, they will be the one to castigate Moses Simon for his lack of efficiency at the attacking third and also blame Rohr for selecting him ahead of a more purposeful footballer. It is why I am very skeptical about some of them mentality i.e My own is that we should be consistent in our rating
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:01am On Oct 19, 2021
TheSuperNerd:


I clearly addressed the Haaland discussion but your eyes keep seeing double that is why you cannot see what was addressed.

Meanwhile, Giroud have more workrate than Harry kane... according to stories from someone's pit of uninformed yammerings. This is why you should rest! grin



As usual always running from people who will give you real facts grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:02am On Oct 19, 2021
do4luv14:



ahh my Doc, no spoil me for my mummy poo, ah don repent ooo

such a fine bae, no wonder he always pack defenders, as if he defending the bae from another guy

You na bad guy!!! grin grin Kaaaiii... My Man toh bad!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:02am On Oct 19, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Haaland is better and rated than osimhen

This is the only argument I want to be involved in before you bring write me long epistle with blue ink and ends up saying nothing grin

Just learn and move on. Now you know Harry Kane is a work rate monster. Case dismissed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:02am On Oct 19, 2021
TheSuperNerd:


I clearly addressed the Haaland discussion but your eyes keep seeing double that is why you cannot see what was addressed.

Meanwhile, Giroud have more workrate than Harry kane ... according to stories from someone's pit of uninformed yammerings. This is why you should rest! grin



I was trying to make a point but typical of you to leave the point and chase frivolities
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 11:03am On Oct 19, 2021
12large1:

Moses Simon is overall better than messi he defends and tracks back and he also has 5 assist so far. We must continue spewing

Lol. Whoever do not support their golden boy is a troll.

Funny peeps

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:03am On Oct 19, 2021
andrewbaba44:


As usual always running from people who will give you real facts grin

You mean from people who say Giroud has more workrate than Harry Kane?? Or cannot clearly see Osimhen's all round game is higher than Häland's despite the latter clearly being the superior finisher (which I have stressed time and time again).... Omo... tell me something... grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:05am On Oct 19, 2021
Subzero047:


I was trying to make a point but typical of you to leave the point and chase frivolities

Trying to lie you mean? And you did... Harry Kane less than Giroud in workrate? grin

Anyway, no need..... bye bye abeg.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:07am On Oct 19, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Just learn and move on. Now you know Harry Kane is a work rate monster. Case dismissed.

Harry Kane is and will never be a work rate monster, check his performances at the Euros and his performances at the beginning of the season, if that is what a workrate monster resembles then you don't meaning of that word
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:07am On Oct 19, 2021
Danielnino00:


Pep and Klopp are two of the best managers of the modern football era...They both have two strikers who aren't in anyway renowned for their goalscoring exploit,but are efficient hard workers in their team..
Would you say Pep and Klopp are stupid or ignorant for not preferring to have centre forward whose only attribute is goalscoring?
Pep wanted Kane tho
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:08am On Oct 19, 2021
TheSuperNerd:


You mean from people who say Giroud has more workrate than Harry Kane?? Or cannot clearly see Osimhen's all round game is higher than Häland's despite the latter clearly being the superior finisher (which I have stressed time and time again).... Omo... tell me something... grin

Haaland is better than osimhen and that’s fact

Can you boldly say osimhen is better then Haaland ? You no fit even boldly say am grin

Who dash Harry Kane work rate ? I don’t want to go there because that’s where you are going just because you have no point to win the Haaland arguement

Ogbeni no Dey shift goal Post ok
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 11:09am On Oct 19, 2021
Joezinho:


Lol. Whoever do not support their golden boy is a troll.

Funny peeps

My friend, don’t be foolish. We support and want our golden boy to succeed but the worse thing he needs is a “yes man” we want him to succeed but we have to be truthful and honest. He is on course to become great but don’t make asinine statement
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by caprikon: 11:09am On Oct 19, 2021
At youth level it isn't out of place to make comparison between players because they are obviously still developing..it is based more on actual data and extrapolations on how they could develop based on their potentials.

Haaland and Osimhen aren't the finished article yet in my opinion.

In 3-5 years time, if such comparisms still persist then one can be more definitive...lest we forget Mikel once rubbed shoulders with Messi in 2005....within 3-5 years we knew the gulf between them was massive ( no disrespect to Mikel cos he's a Nigerian legend).

I only pray this conversation still takes place in a few years time... That said,I am tipping Osimhen to become a truly global Superstar from Africa in the mould of Drogba/Eto'o but only time will tell.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:10am On Oct 19, 2021
jihday:
Pep wanted Kane tho

Which clearly supports the point TheGoodjoe makes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:11am On Oct 19, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Just learn and move on. Now you know Harry Kane is a work rate monster. Case dismissed.



The argument is between Haaland and osimhen stop changing it to Kane and giroud because of example

Be a man and stop changing narrative

If you have nothing sensible to say then keep shut
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:13am On Oct 19, 2021
They are now changing it to Kane and giroud just because they have nothing against Haaland

People wey no even fit stand on their words or have minds of their own grin

The next thing now they will call me hater cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:16am On Oct 19, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Haaland is better than osimhen and that’s fact

Can you boldly say osimhen is better then Haaland ? You no fit even boldly say am grin

Who dash Harry Kane work rate ? I don’t want to go there because that’s where you are going just because you have no point to win the Haaland arguement

Ogbeni no Dey shift goal Post ok

How many times must I say something? I even tagged you to it but you still cannot see it.

Häland is better rated. Not far better like you initially claimed. He is better because he has the goals records most envy.

But Osimehn remains the better allround monster. His allround game simply trumps Häland and that also partly explains why his goals numbers are not higher than the Goals Machine. Gerrit??

Both also play for top clubs and are the leading talismen for their sides. For country, both are also the main men.

And again, both are players being looked at by the Most Elite Clubs.

So you see why it is very very legit to place them in the same sentence.

One na Goals Machine as there is no better Clinical striker on the planet. The other is the Monster Machine as his allround game is simply Elite. Finito.


Abeg... I hope you can read and can see this one before you come repeating stuffs like a robot again. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:17am On Oct 19, 2021
Subzero047:


I don’t follow Liverpool but I know Jota benched Firmino for some games this season and last simply because he was a better goalscorer, it doesn't matter what kind of striker Jota is but the point is Klopp wanted more goals that's why Firmino sat on the bench

You don't follow Liverpool, and you already concluded why Klopp benched Firmino for Jota... You even added "simply"..
And Jota isn't a striker! He is a f***g midfielder..

The only striker in Liverpool squad right now is and Origi!
If you think Klopp is going to drop Jota or Firmino for each other when one is scoring and the other isn't, you are very much mistaken...
I suggest you follow Liverpool more before making any kind of assertions that would make you look like a joke...
I've noticed that u are in the habit of making hasty generalization about certain issues here....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:22am On Oct 19, 2021
elyte89:



Don't mind dem grin grin grin

Dt narration of work rate is even silly ...because not all strikers must possess same style of play.u can only say u prefer dis types of strikers to dis type because of d way he plays, and not coming here to say he's a more complete striker.. So d likes of aguero,ronaldo delima dt are ball carrying strikers with very good goal scoring records are not better Dan drogba and co(power playing strikers)... Shio,everybody with his own unique style of play..d only thing we can use to judge dem is what connects d two(wc is deir primary aim of been a striker and dt is goals)


It's just like saying d school shld recognize and award d best student to a second class upper student simply because he has d best xters,atten d classes early,(95percent attendance),assist lecturers in his dept,submit assignment early

And deres a 1st class student in d same dept somewhere who doesn't do half of what d oda std does in oda areas...no b juju b DAT

D only thing d school will use to judge both std is deir academic result outcome; wc is deir main reason of been a student,nobody really cares abt ur oda attributes as a student when its time to recognize d best in d dept wink


So abeg bring in anoda agenda jare grin

Haaland shldnt b on d same sentence with osimhen... Dem no b mate grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:22am On Oct 19, 2021
caprikon:
At youth level it isn't out of place to make comparison between players because they are obviously still developing..it is based more on actual data and extrapolations on how they could develop based on their potentials.

Haaland and Osimhen aren't the finished article yet in my opinion.

In 3-5 years time, if such comparisms still persist then one can be more definitive...lest we forget Mikel once rubbed shoulders with Messi in 2005....within 3-5 years we knew the gulf between them was massive ( no disrespect to Mikel cos he's a Nigerian legend).

I only pray this conversation still takes place in a few years time... That said,I am tipping Osimhen to become a truly global Superstar from Africa in the mould of Drogba/Eto'o but only time will tell.

Its only in Nigeria that we always hear that Mikel rubber shoulders with Messi just because he was the second most valuable player a the 2005 world youth championship, there is nothing like rubbing shoulders then because even people didn’t even see Messi as a good player then nor knowing he will be among the greatest ever

We did not say osimhen won’t be a global super star or he is not a good player ,he wasn’t purchased for 80 million for nothing

Our crime was Saying Haaland is better and not saying osimhen is not good or anything else

When they said osimhen is the best 9 in Africa at the moment many of us didn’t argue

I brought the Haaland arguement with my full chest

Haaland is even giving us a better stats than the mbappe we know

Me wey Dey pray make Haaland go epl make I see weda e go flop ,I no send him papa ,but the boy keeps falling my hands everyday by day grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:23am On Oct 19, 2021
jihday:
Pep wanted Kane tho

According to our in-house mortal Kombat fighter, Giroud has better work rate than Kane....

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