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Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Elsueno: 9:41am On Oct 22, 2021
Mrkumareze:
It's a planned work, starting from the federal point.. all dis are political slot, they sale it out to their members .. most of the revenue we pay never goes to the federal or state account it ends up in individual's account who the slot belongs to..

lmao, we are fighting kwarruption...U guys just don't appreciate d efforts of our incorruptible Messiah & his entourage. grin grin


I am even beginning to think Nigeria is one of top three countries in d world when it comes to corruption
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Ahmed4002(m): 10:36am On Oct 22, 2021
nairavsdollars:
Counter what rubbish. Your uncle is defrauding people and you are here defending him. Ole

I can see the name written on the report na yours
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Ahmed4002(m): 10:37am On Oct 22, 2021
Pidaa:

will u keep quiet. keep supporting corrupt people. only God know if u even work in the immigration. so annoying people.

Keep quite and make your research village man
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Kaycee9242(m): 10:40am On Oct 22, 2021
post=106952267:
Corruption in every sphere of the country.

Can you just imagine this wickedness and calamity
Like wtf! shocked
Everything to them is MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!!

*HOME TRUTH*

*On every level, Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria*.
Read along to understand our reasons for saying so......

I run a manufacturing business and a trading business.
The biggest challenge in my manufacturing business is not power, or infrastructure, the biggest challenge is getting honest staff.
Everyone we hire appears to be on a mission to steal as much as possible.
Inflated invoices, recording less than the actual number of units produced.
The worst part of it all is that all the fraud we've uncovered is not done by a single person, it's usually many staff who collude with each other, from production, to sales, to finance, even top management.
There was a year I overhauled management 3 times in a year.........
But me, I've found a solution sha, I now use Indian management.
So competent, so honest and so straightforward.
I thought they were expensive at first with all the visa fees, accommodation, house staff, but now that losses due to staff theft have been reduced to a minimum, and efficiency increased, the Indian management has turned out to be cheaper than the previous Nigerian management.
Now, all sensitive positions involving money go to Indians. Nigerians are only allowed in non-sensitive positions.
I used to criticize companies like Dangote Group that hire so many Indians when there are many unemployed Nigerians, but now, I understand their decision.

My biggest challenge in the trading business is the same, getting honest staff.
The form of trading occurs in the open market, and involves staff having access to huge sums of money running into a few millions.
I know how much I pay to security companies to provide escorts for the staff, not to prevent robbery, but to ensure that the staff go straight to the bank to deposit the money after the day's sales and not disappear with my money.
This money spent on security companies is even enough to be declared as profitWe have to spend on CCTV, biometric scanners and other things that wouldn't be needed if staff weren't looking for the slightest opportunity to steal.

It got so bad at a point that my main criteria for employing staff was no longer competency but honesty.
At least, competency and skills can be learnt, but once you're dishonest, you're dishonest.

We always complain of the economy and how there are no jobs. I know people abroad who would have loved to set up job creating businesses in Nigeria but they can't because they can't get any trustworthy person to run it.

I know people in Nigeria with so much money, they want to start factories and other job-creating businesses but they can't because they are occupied elsewhere and can't get any trustworthy person to run the business.
So instead of investing in the real sector and creating jobs, they'll just buy treasury bills, while the thieves are shouting no jobs.

Many big businesses would have been born in Nigeria if we could engage in partnerships, but we cant because you can't trust anyone.
This is one advantage the Indians and Lebanese have over us in Nigeria.
They can pull resources together and do mega-business, unlike Nigerians that because only one person must do everything since we can't partner, end up with small, tiny businesses.

Start a poultry and they will be stealing your eggs. Some will even go ahead to be killing the chickens so that they'll be allowed to take them home.

Start an entertainment/viewing/game center and they'll be pocketing your money.
On the days you're around at the business, the money realized will be x10 of the money realized when you're not around..... Because they're eating your money.

Lease out a vehicle to a driver to use and watch as he'll finish you.

Start a restaurant, the same thing will happen. More than half of the total food ingredients will end up in their personal kitchens.

Even ordinary provisions shop, they will find a way to steal.

You'll see them with that their evil, wicked saying "na where person dey work, na there e dey chop, na e make dem dey callam workchop/workshop"...... Just imagine, justifying theft at work.

And you'll see these people point their crooked fingers at politicians when they're not any different. I usually say the reason most Nigerians haven't stolen billions of government money, is simply lack of opportunity.


Again,
*On every level, Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria*.

I want us to discuss how this narrative can change.
As I speak there are several Nigerians here and institutional investors who would love to invest in Nigeria but the character of Nigerians on the global stage has been a drawback.

There are also franchises from Agriculture to Automobiles who wish to enter the Nigerian Market but holding back because of this.

Cc : Coach.


God bless you for taking time out to air your view concerning this.
May Nigeria succeed.

U are right but saying that indians and foreigners handling companies here are different is not entirely true. I can Categorically tell u that they are worse. U made mention of Dangote, I live close to refinery at Ibeju Lekki and I do supply the indians there automobile parts and other products. They are the bigger scammers, they don't tell the company the truth as regards how much they purchase the goods, in fact they tipple the original price I give them. The ones still in their country might be good oo oo oo! But u see most of them here are crooks.
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by oracle009(m): 10:52am On Oct 22, 2021
Ahmed4002:
Ignorance and yeye Journalism in Nigeria.

Can you hear the stinking words you type up here. Can you reason these words yourself I feel like cursing you, but you are cursed already. For everyone like who defends corrupt practices, MAY LIFE BE HARD FOR YOU AND YOUR BENEFICIARIES. ẹranko jati jati. angry grin
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by oracle009(m): 10:53am On Oct 22, 2021
Kaycee9242:


U are right but saying that indians and foreigners handling companies here are different is not entirely true

Don't mind the yeye man. Indians of all people. I don't know who is worse between them and Nigerians. People just talk for talking sake.
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Ahmed4002(m): 11:02am On Oct 22, 2021
oracle009:


Can you hear the stinking words you type up here. Can you reason these words yourself I feel like cursing you, but you are cursed already.

For everyone like you who is not informed or a traveller.. I pray may you get a visa soon and travel to your desire destination

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Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Kaycee9242(m): 11:04am On Oct 22, 2021
oracle009:


Don't mind the yeye man. Indians of all people. I don't know who is worse between them and Nigerians. People just talk for talking sake.

My brother if u see what these ppl do in this refinery u will shout, most of the materials they are using there are substandard and they will tell d company dt is original just because they make more illegal money from d substandard. They have even started maintenance on the refinery when it has not started operation due to the substandard products they use and d worst of it all is dt Edwin (indian) the md incharge of the refinery project is aware but because they are his ppl he kept mute. I just pray d refinery no catch fire one day

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Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Advancedman(m): 11:05am On Oct 22, 2021
Damidave1124:
Can corruption ever be curbed in Nigeria?
I don't think so. Almost eveeybody is looking for a way scam/outsmart every unsuspecting Nigerian of their hard earned money

Let's not generalized certain issues of national discuss as this isn't about individual corruption but government institutionalized treason and felony.
Will a bank ask you to pay to an individual account due to any hitch?
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by dfrost: 11:07am On Oct 22, 2021
nedekid:


"The details of the account should be revealed and proper investigation should be carried out on the culprits"

Below are the details of the account revealed,

"They were handed over a note that read, ‘1433844324, Access Bank, N51,950, Williams Oladip­upo’"

Nb: the poster I responded to asked for details of the account to be revealed, I only responded to the fact, that has already been done, and the reasons they gave revealed, hence no reason to waste time on long talk talk investigation, enough evidence is there to take action.

I get your point now mate. Naija matter no be wetin person dey wakeup in the morning begin discuss. sad

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Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Ovamboland(m): 11:14am On Oct 22, 2021
dfrost:
angry

Today's news will be filled with thieves.

Honestly, psychiatric test should be done on office holders in Nigeria because this is more than klepto.

The other day a former governor's son was quizzed over ₦1billion+ sitting fallow in his account. FALLOW and bankers feeding fat on it. angry

If you enter govt position now you'd do likewise and be giving plenty excuses like they will kill me if i don't join them
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by dfrost: 11:21am On Oct 22, 2021
Ovamboland:


If you enter govt position now you'd do likewise and be giving plenty excuses like they will kill me if i don't join them

That's why you and I are different. Never applied for any government job before cheesy

Even if I have the opportunity, I will be killed in less than 3 months.

No be everybody be thief.

Am I a sinner? Yes.
Have I done the wrong things? Yes.
Have I ever been a social misfit? Yes.

I fit be everything but no be thief. cheesy

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Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Ovamboland(m): 11:28am On Oct 22, 2021
biggie73:
Why pay for Covid test?

Who will pick the cost?

We can't provide 50k to educate one each out of millions of out of school children, but we should pay for covid test for air travellers who mostly have access to millions of naira.
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by oracle009(m): 11:30am On Oct 22, 2021
Ahmed4002:


For everyone like you who is not informed or a traveller.. I pray may you get a visa soon and travel to your desire destination

I don't need your prayers, the prayers of a corrupt man is corruption. It is people like you who encourages and participate in sharp & corrupt practices that makes it difficult for us to think of coming back to Nigeria. You all made home inhabitable, yet still justify your acts. May nature never be kind to such people and their beneficiaries! angry

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Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by bigtt76(f): 11:35am On Oct 22, 2021
Sad but I believe the staff wasn't properly trained on how to manage the situation. My take below

1. First the monies are not Federal Government's money but rather the laboratories accredited on the portal to carry out these tests. If it were Federal Government's then it would've been on TSA through Remita

2. The William guy through the staff were probably trying to offer assisted payment for the test registration in view of the fact that the portal was down ...why should it go down in the first instance needs to be questioned.

3. The staff should've explained this to the passengers as an option and not try to force them to. Its their choice to decide to wait out the portal coming back on stream or using the alternative provided

4. The William guy charging addional 760 naira rubbished all the good intention he may have.


bolaayenimo:
Temidayo Akinsuyi, Lagos


https://independent.ng/lagos-airport-scandal-passengers-refuse-to-pay-pcr-test-fee-into-private-account/

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Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Ddokie: 11:44am On Oct 22, 2021
InvertedHammer:
/
Bunch of clowns!

They were paying until one person mustered the courage to question the legality of the fraud. All of a sudden, they found their voices.

/

That is the purpose of leadership.

Not everyone is able to take initiative and act even if they desire to. Once a leader shows up, they rally around the person and act in unison.

That’s the reason why failure in leadership is the greatest disaster that can befall humans.
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by timefarm(m): 11:45am On Oct 22, 2021
post=106952267:
Corruption in every sphere of the country.

Can you just imagine this wickedness and calamity
Like wtf! shocked
Everything to them is MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!!

*HOME TRUTH*

*On every level, Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria*.
Read along to understand our reasons for saying so......

I run a manufacturing business and a trading business.
The biggest challenge in my manufacturing business is not power, or infrastructure, the biggest challenge is getting honest staff.
Everyone we hire appears to be on a mission to steal as much as possible.
Inflated invoices, recording less than the actual number of units produced.
The worst part of it all is that all the fraud we've uncovered is not done by a single person, it's usually many staff who collude with each other, from production, to sales, to finance, even top management.
There was a year I overhauled management 3 times in a year.........
But me, I've found a solution sha, I now use Indian management.
So competent, so honest and so straightforward.
I thought they were expensive at first with all the visa fees, accommodation, house staff, but now that losses due to staff theft have been reduced to a minimum, and efficiency increased, the Indian management has turned out to be cheaper than the previous Nigerian management.
Now, all sensitive positions involving money go to Indians. Nigerians are only allowed in non-sensitive positions.
I used to criticize companies like Dangote Group that hire so many Indians when there are many unemployed Nigerians, but now, I understand their decision.

My biggest challenge in the trading business is the same, getting honest staff.
The form of trading occurs in the open market, and involves staff having access to huge sums of money running into a few millions.
I know how much I pay to security companies to provide escorts for the staff, not to prevent robbery, but to ensure that the staff go straight to the bank to deposit the money after the day's sales and not disappear with my money.
This money spent on security companies is even enough to be declared as profitWe have to spend on CCTV, biometric scanners and other things that wouldn't be needed if staff weren't looking for the slightest opportunity to steal.

It got so bad at a point that my main criteria for employing staff was no longer competency but honesty.
At least, competency and skills can be learnt, but once you're dishonest, you're dishonest.

We always complain of the economy and how there are no jobs. I know people abroad who would have loved to set up job creating businesses in Nigeria but they can't because they can't get any trustworthy person to run it.

I know people in Nigeria with so much money, they want to start factories and other job-creating businesses but they can't because they are occupied elsewhere and can't get any trustworthy person to run the business.
So instead of investing in the real sector and creating jobs, they'll just buy treasury bills, while the thieves are shouting no jobs.

Many big businesses would have been born in Nigeria if we could engage in partnerships, but we cant because you can't trust anyone.
This is one advantage the Indians and Lebanese have over us in Nigeria.
They can pull resources together and do mega-business, unlike Nigerians that because only one person must do everything since we can't partner, end up with small, tiny businesses.

Start a poultry and they will be stealing your eggs. Some will even go ahead to be killing the chickens so that they'll be allowed to take them home.

Start an entertainment/viewing/game center and they'll be pocketing your money.
On the days you're around at the business, the money realized will be x10 of the money realized when you're not around..... Because they're eating your money.

Lease out a vehicle to a driver to use and watch as he'll finish you.

Start a restaurant, the same thing will happen. More than half of the total food ingredients will end up in their personal kitchens.

Even ordinary provisions shop, they will find a way to steal.

You'll see them with that their evil, wicked saying "na where person dey work, na there e dey chop, na e make dem dey callam workchop/workshop"...... Just imagine, justifying theft at work.

And you'll see these people point their crooked fingers at politicians when they're not any different. I usually say the reason most Nigerians haven't stolen billions of government money, is simply lack of opportunity.


Again,
*On every level, Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria*.

I want us to discuss how this narrative can change.
As I speak there are several Nigerians here and institutional investors who would love to invest in Nigeria but the character of Nigerians on the global stage has been a drawback.

There are also franchises from Agriculture to Automobiles who wish to enter the Nigerian Market but holding back because of this.

Cc : Coach.


God bless you for taking time out to air your view concerning this.
May Nigeria succeed.
You are right
But no fraud like the one you perpetrated supporting the dullard as president.

I am still here for you
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by UCHIHAmask: 11:45am On Oct 22, 2021
[quote author=InvertedHammer post=106952323]/
Bunch of clowns!

They were paying until one person mustered the courage to question the legality of the fraud. All of a sudden, they found their voices.

/[/qquote
That is what most Nigerians are,clowns and cowards.
I know a certain people who.boldly speak up against Injustice
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by UCHIHAmask: 11:55am On Oct 22, 2021
Kay17:


Will the Yoruba nation be clean of corruption because Yoruba blood flows through Yoruba veins?!
In Yoruba nation, Yoruba citizens can easily unite and protest a change In government/constitution or against corruption anywhere it raises it's tails and security forces would comprise only Yorubas,so the police killings would immediately lessen with patriotism awakened.
In Nigeria, the different tribes couldn't achieve a United front In protest against government and security forces killings and oppression, they mock each other with bias reckless abandon.
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by nairavsdollars(f): 11:56am On Oct 22, 2021
You must be mentally unstable. Oloshi ole
Ahmed4002:


I can see the name written on the report na yours
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Akpangbo: 12:06pm On Oct 22, 2021
The pilots should stop announcing welcome to Nigeria but welcome to corruption zone. grin grin
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by dfrost: 12:22pm On Oct 22, 2021
bigtt76:
Sad but I believe the staff wasn't properly trained on how to manage the situation. My take below

4. The William guy charging addional 760 naira rubbished all the good intention he may have.


I agree with you on all points mentioned (I don't want to quote the long post).

But you see that number 4 shows how corrupt we are as a people. If you have to do something for someone, don't ask for a tip. The person will feel obliged to even do more.

If you ask for a tip, it shows your level of esteem.

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Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by jude79(m): 2:22pm On Oct 22, 2021
post=106952267:
Corruption in every sphere of the country.

Can you just imagine this wickedness and calamity
Like wtf! shocked
Everything to them is MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!!

*HOME TRUTH*

*On every level, Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria*.
Read along to understand our reasons for saying so......

I run a manufacturing business and a trading business.
The biggest challenge in my manufacturing business is not power, or infrastructure, the biggest challenge is getting honest staff.
Everyone we hire appears to be on a mission to steal as much as possible.
Inflated invoices, recording less than the actual number of units produced.
The worst part of it all is that all the fraud we've uncovered is not done by a single person, it's usually many staff who collude with each other, from production, to sales, to finance, even top management.
There was a year I overhauled management 3 times in a year.........
But me, I've found a solution sha, I now use Indian management.
So competent, so honest and so straightforward.
I thought they were expensive at first with all the visa fees, accommodation, house staff, but now that losses due to staff theft have been reduced to a minimum, and efficiency increased, the Indian management has turned out to be cheaper than the previous Nigerian management.
Now, all sensitive positions involving money go to Indians. Nigerians are only allowed in non-sensitive positions.
I used to criticize companies like Dangote Group that hire so many Indians when there are many unemployed Nigerians, but now, I understand their decision.

My biggest challenge in the trading business is the same, getting honest staff.
The form of trading occurs in the open market, and involves staff having access to huge sums of money running into a few millions.
I know how much I pay to security companies to provide escorts for the staff, not to prevent robbery, but to ensure that the staff go straight to the bank to deposit the money after the day's sales and not disappear with my money.
This money spent on security companies is even enough to be declared as profitWe have to spend on CCTV, biometric scanners and other things that wouldn't be needed if staff weren't looking for the slightest opportunity to steal.

It got so bad at a point that my main criteria for employing staff was no longer competency but honesty.
At least, competency and skills can be learnt, but once you're dishonest, you're dishonest.

We always complain of the economy and how there are no jobs. I know people abroad who would have loved to set up job creating businesses in Nigeria but they can't because they can't get any trustworthy person to run it.

I know people in Nigeria with so much money, they want to start factories and other job-creating businesses but they can't because they are occupied elsewhere and can't get any trustworthy person to run the business.
So instead of investing in the real sector and creating jobs, they'll just buy treasury bills, while the thieves are shouting no jobs.

Many big businesses would have been born in Nigeria if we could engage in partnerships, but we cant because you can't trust anyone.
This is one advantage the Indians and Lebanese have over us in Nigeria.
They can pull resources together and do mega-business, unlike Nigerians that because only one person must do everything since we can't partner, end up with small, tiny businesses.

Start a poultry and they will be stealing your eggs. Some will even go ahead to be killing the chickens so that they'll be allowed to take them home.

Start an entertainment/viewing/game center and they'll be pocketing your money.
On the days you're around at the business, the money realized will be x10 of the money realized when you're not around..... Because they're eating your money.

Lease out a vehicle to a driver to use and watch as he'll finish you.

Start a restaurant, the same thing will happen. More than half of the total food ingredients will end up in their personal kitchens.

Even ordinary provisions shop, they will find a way to steal.

You'll see them with that their evil, wicked saying "na where person dey work, na there e dey chop, na e make dem dey callam workchop/workshop"...... Just imagine, justifying theft at work.

And you'll see these people point their crooked fingers at politicians when they're not any different. I usually say the reason most Nigerians haven't stolen billions of government money, is simply lack of opportunity.


Again,
*On every level, Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria*.

I want us to discuss how this narrative can change.
As I speak there are several Nigerians here and institutional investors who would love to invest in Nigeria but the character of Nigerians on the global stage has been a drawback.

There are also franchises from Agriculture to Automobiles who wish to enter the Nigerian Market but holding back because of this.

Cc : Coach.


God bless you for taking time out to air your view concerning this.
May Nigeria succeed.




After reading what you posted, I came to the realization that Nigeria needs a sort of recolonization economically, from either Germany or Japan, I mean people who have a record of efficiency and not cutting corners, they have to be placed at all sensitive position requiring monetary transactions and due processess, sensitive government parastertals like inec should not be exempted.
Alternatively, using a reward system enshrined into law like is done in Germany, can also be effective in encouraging honesty, if there is no adequate encouragement geared towards rewarding honesty instead of salary only you can't get what you want.
I established a satchet water factory in the east, after escaping from the north, the biggest dishonesty problem I had was from the drivers, because it was difficult to monitor them, being a small set-up, I couldn't afford CCTV no run computing system that can detect stealing, so I decided to setup a reward system that encourages honesty, I can't say I'm hundred % steal proof but I'm seeing positive results.
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Lordofistanbul: 3:08pm On Oct 22, 2021
The situation in that murtala intl airport is getting out of hand, there are several immigration and customs officers at the very airport that’s out there to extort the returnees , there is one black immigration woman right after the immigration checking desk that’s there with other immigration officers to intimidate that refused to drop them rogger, she’s likely a Yoruba woman , but very black and in her mid 50’s, when last I was traveling out , i almost missed my flight due to delay by the idiots, Nigeria need total reform, cos the country is on fire already .
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by biggie73(m): 4:14pm On Oct 22, 2021
Ovamboland:


Who will pick the cost?

We can't provide 50k to educate one each out of millions of out of school children, but we should pay for covid test for air travellers who mostly have access to millions of naira.
....those are the responsibilities of the government to the people.
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Kay17: 5:27pm On Oct 22, 2021
TripleOh7:


No.
But we have an opportunity to build a nation from foundation.

We have an opportunity to make sure that the foundation is SOLID.

It is true, Yoruba politicians and youths are part of the corrupt class at the moment, but there was a time before the amalgamation when your family name was important, when the Yoruba principle of OMOLUABI was the guiding light for Yorubas, when the adage "nothing is more shameful for a man than stealing and laziness (olè and ọ̀lẹ)" was very much in force.


Now, look at us as a people. We have been married to disparate tribes, corrupted by some that believe that you must make money by all means even if it means ferrying drugs or doing money rituals.


I'm not saying that Yoruba used to be an ethnic group devoid of bad elements, I'm saying that if you were caught, you wouldn't be celebrated and given chieftaincy titles as is obtained today.


There used to be a time in Yorubaland whereby people traded by barter. You'd leave your yams by the roadside and you'll meet your money or whatever it's traded with intact.


If there were to be serious corruption problem in the new Yoruba nation, wouldn't it be easier to solve than when we all have to look to Abuja (the seat of corruption) to help us fight corruption?


I can bet my last dollar that this embarrassing situation at the airport will not be looked into by the government.


Why do you think the politicians are desperate to keep Nigeria one?


Why do you think the colonialists are desperate to keep Nigeria one?

I admire your vision for the new Yoruba nation, but remember you, your character and vision only cannot make this nation. But I doubt if you will find your foundation because who is a Yoruba today? Who is Yoruba after a hundred years of colonialism and capitalism? Where will you place the influence of Western media and education in our people.

Also, what is the geopolitical impact of a Yoruba nation in Africa? Will the nation be capitalist or socialist? Are we going to be in the African free market?
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Kay17: 5:31pm On Oct 22, 2021
UCHIHAmask:

In Yoruba nation, Yoruba citizens can easily unite and protest a change In government/constitution or against corruption anywhere it raises it's tails and security forces would comprise only Yorubas,so the police killings would immediately lessen with patriotism awakened.
In Nigeria, the difference couldn't achieve a United front In protest against government and security forces killings and oppression, they mock each other with bias reckless abandon.

Do you really think corruption can be cured by homogeneity? Do you think that if the police force of the Yoruba nation is poorly educated, poorly motivated, poorly housed, poorly trained, overworked and underpaid, it will use the Omoluabi spirit to sail through and avoid corruption?

Wouldn't the Yoruba nation be at risk of collapse without a clear economic roadmap: Wouldn't the nation be at risk of falling into despotic hands where there are no traditional and strong institutions to counterbalance?

Lets have real conversations.
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Ovamboland(m): 6:01pm On Oct 22, 2021
dfrost:


That's why you and I are different. Never applied for any government job before cheesy

Even if I have the opportunity, I will be killed in less than 3 months.

No be everybody be thief.

Am I a sinner? Yes.
Have I done the wrong things? Yes.
Have I ever been a social misfit? Yes.

I fit be everything but no be thief. cheesy

Na so all of them they talk until they got tested and failed
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Nobody: 6:03pm On Oct 22, 2021
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Oh Jesus! I love people who engage me like this. My toes are tingling o. Wait, lemme sit down first, make I no fall.


I admire your vision for the new Yoruba nation, but remember you, your character and vision only cannot make this nation.


I know this. It isn't just my dream alone. Many others share this dream. That's why it isn't only me that's pushing for a Yoruba Nation. That's why we are calling other Yorubas to bring their input into this nation-building efforts.


But I doubt if you will find your foundation because who is a Yoruba today? Who is Yoruba after a hundred years of colonialism and capitalism? Where will you place the influence of Western media and education in our people.


All these questions are wonderful. Who is a Yoruba today? After all we have intermarried with very many ethnic groups and nationalities.


My answer is, a Yoruba person knows himself/herself.


There are those whose fathers are Yoruba and mothers from other tribes or even countries.


There are those whose mothers are the Yoruba part. You'll find out that most of these children from mixed parentage would rather identify strongly with either parents' tribe depending on how and where they were raised.


So, it will depend upon them to say, I am from this tribe or that tribe according to what they want.


Now, perchance, there are those who identify with both strongly, then, there's no law that says they can't have dual citizenship. It'll probably open up more opportunities for them from both sides, and rightly so because they are inheriting traits and DNA from both sides. (Lucky them, I'd say).


Now, there are other tribes who have settled down in Yorubaland for a long time. They've lived in our midst and all they know is Yorubaland. They may not be Yoruba but of course, they are also citizens of the Yoruba nation. As well as their children etc.


When we say, Yoruba nation, most people think we want to drive all non-Yorubas out of Yorubaland and create a mono-ethnic component that is inhabited by strictly Yorubas alone. Nothing can be further from the truth.


Nigerians are citizens of other countries like the US, Canada, the UK etc. So why would that be difficult to implement here?



Also, what is the geopolitical impact of a Yoruba nation in Africa?


That can best be imagined. When Yorubas were given free reign to rule themselves, we had the first television station in Africa and many other developmental firsts.


I strongly believe that if we are given the opportunity to build our own Yoruba nation, the, we will maintain stability in the West African region.


You see, the Yoruba culture and spirituality is so strong that our brothers who were taken as slaves were able to take along with them the Yoruba culture and spirituality. Today, Yoruba religion is the 6th most influential religion in the world and the only one to occupy such a position in whole of Africa.


If we can get our acts right and get out of Nigeria that's killing our "Yoruba-ness", I am of the opinion that we'll be a strong leader on the African continent. (Note: I didn't say the only leader, I said a strong leader. So I won't be accused of delusions of grandeur)


Will the nation be capitalist or socialist? Are we going to be in the African free market?


Good question.


I have my own ideas that I have been developing on the governance systems and economic systems of that Yoruba nation, but I wouldn't want to pass it off here as what should be.


I'd rather, instead of us racking our brains and wasting brainpower trying to save a doomed ship called Nigeria, we all come together as Yorubas and Yoruba citizens to put heads together and fashion out a foundation that'll hold for our new nation so that our children and their children and their own children after them can live in a country that looks better han countries like Finland, Sweden etc.


We can only if we want to.


We will determine what kind of political system we want, what kind of international relations policies we should have, not some people in Abuja selling off our birthright to China for some loans.
Together we will determine our flag, our emblem, our anthem, etc. Together. Through town hall meetings.


On the other hand, we can just decide to wait for the Fulani marauders who have sworn a pact with their demonic ancestor, Uthman Dan Fodio to come destroy us and take over our lush, beautiful and fertile land flowing with milk and honey.


They'll simply graze their damn cattle on it and turn it into another desert.


God help us.
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by Ovamboland(m): 6:03pm On Oct 22, 2021
biggie73:
....those are the responsibilities of the government to the people.

Is covid test for travellers free in of the rich countries?
Re: MMIA Airport Scandal: UK Returnees Refuse To Pay FG's Money Into Private Account by osazuwa23: 7:01pm On Oct 22, 2021
it not a terrible idea to be under britain considering that most nigerians are living in oyigbo land peacefully. british museum kept are artifacts in one peace despite looting it. if you live in the west they make sure to keep all artifacts in one peace in the musuem . if it was to be in oduduwa or biafra or nigeria i gurantee you the maintenance of those artificats will be forgotten or destroyed to maintenance culture. yes bini can be it own nation but having to get another passport to go to lagos wouldnt make sense. i would have to have three passports unless these two nations decide to join ecowas
TripleOh7:


Probably a terrible idea.

From your name I guess you're from Edo state.

Have you seen the beautiful Bini bronze statues that the British stole being displayed in the British museum?

You really don't want them back, trust me.

If they ever come back they will obliterate everything that's you and a people without self-identity is a worthless people.

You don't have to be part of the Yoruba nation.

In fact, if you are not Bini, we don't think we want to have you in Yoruba nation.

Your ethnic group can always be its own independent nation if you want.

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