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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by ezegenigbonine: 8:21pm On Oct 31, 2021
In case you want to see rich culture

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by holybabayo(m): 8:23pm On Oct 31, 2021
I doubt. Where are the buildings
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Astrid4(m): 8:23pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

The picture is from early 20th century (after Amalgamation).
By then, Igbo businessmen have started developing estates in Lagos.

By the way, I never knew we would get to a level when Yorubas will start celebrating what the white men built as theirs.

Lol. These people are more Shameless than I thought.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Legendoo: 8:23pm On Oct 31, 2021
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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 8:24pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:
"A rare photo of a Diviner, Alaafin of Oyo & the almost legendary Capt. William A Ross. Who helped Alaafin of Oyo gain prominence again as paramount ruler of Yorubas- He was resident of Oyo 1914-1931. Ross was a friend of Alaafin Ladigbolu I. See how organized the palace is?"
There are lots of inaccuracies in your comment:

1) 1914 was during the colonial era, oyo was no longer an independent kingdom, it was part of a british collony called "southern nigeria" and in that same year it became part of a british colony called "nigeria".

2) yoruba actually means oyo, these two words have the same meaning. In the beginning it was yarrib.a which litterally means oyo. So by definition the alafin of oyo is the king of yoruba and yoruba is the name of his kingdom.

3) the palace in your picture was clearly built by the brtish, it bears all the marks of a european-built house.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by ezegenigbonine: 8:24pm On Oct 31, 2021
WesternOligarch:


Says the tribe whose leader cowardly ran off disguised as a woman after losing a war and sacrificing millions of his ape people's.

Afonja abi, as he cowardly allow Fulani to take over illorin

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by dalass(f): 8:24pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:
Yoruba civilization is the best, Omo see culture and greatness in one picture.

If I'm not Yoruba, I will be jealous of them.

Since tipetipe grin
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by toujurs: 8:24pm On Oct 31, 2021
thundafire:
shut up ur mouth how did Oyibo finish us all this nonsense force down our throats by our useless politicians and u believe. Did they stop Nigeria from developing abi na our people dey steal go outside.

If not for Oyibo will U be using Handsets or know about Android abi u for the Alaafin house as sacrificial ram wen him die. Travel out and compare ur country to the Oyibo then u will know that they have strong institution and not rubber-stamped as we have here
Thanks for this piece of advice, it's always in our nature to blame people around us. Instead of taking responsibilities.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by 0balufonlll: 8:24pm On Oct 31, 2021
LegendHero:


Let me translate it for you. I don’t know ami ohun much like that which explained why you might not understand it well. Also, I used a proper Oyo dialect.

—Oyo Alaafin (Oyo, the descendant of the Alaafin)
—Ojo pa sekere omo atiba (Rain must not beat sekere, Son of Atiba)
—Oyo nipe kolowo ko gbowo (Oyo said the creditor should collect his money)
—Oni koni iwofa gba tire (He also went to tell the debtor (Iwofa - a system where people use their family as collateral to borrow money) not to pay his debt)
—Ase kole ba di’ja, ko le ba daapon (Not knowing that the reason why Oyo did this is so that fight can happen)
—Komo oba le ri ‘n muje (So the prince can eat)
—Oyo gbin agbado oran seyinkule elenkule (Oyo planted a wicked mystery maize/corn of trouble at another man's backyard)
—Elenkule o gbodo faatu, be ni ko si gbodo faaya (The owner must not uproot it, and he must not shred it)
__Omo iku, tiku kogbódò pa
(child of death who death cannot kill)
----Omo Arun, tarun kogbódò see
(child of pestilence who cannot be tied down by sickness)
----Omo Ofo, tofo kogbódò see(child of calamity whom calamity can't afflict )

All this eulogy of Oyo is just showing the empire might. Imagine planting a corn/maize of trouble at the back of one’s compound and telling him not to uproot it nor shred it. Like you’re showing your might and power over them.

THe Oyo referred to in this oriki is the Ago di Oyo, not the empire. This current one is not the same as the empire. It was founded by one prince, hence, Oyo Atiba.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by angelfallz(m): 8:24pm On Oct 31, 2021
Bukatyne come and see your people. wink

i know you are from Ondo, but still you are all Yoruba.

Okutanla1:
The Great Oyo Empire.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by klas(m): 8:25pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

The picture is from early 20th century (after Amalgamation).
By then, Igbo businessmen have started developing estates in Lagos.

By the way, I never knew we would get to a level when Yorubas will start celebrating what the white men built as theirs.

Lol. These people are more Shameless than I thought.

New York Times July 4 1960 edition

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Crixxx: 8:25pm On Oct 31, 2021
Eriokanmi:
Lol. Stop embarrassing yourself. These weren't us. This is typical of Igbo gals back in the days

Why deny your people? grin
You never knew your mother's were also naked? Hahahaha
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Astrid4(m): 8:26pm On Oct 31, 2021
ezegenigbonine:


Who go talk say him mama soup no sweet. I hate being a coward so i wouldn't have prayed to be a Yoruba

Yoruba civil war started from 1789-1880
And lets me not talk about the Yoruba/Fulani war that made Yoruba capture Jebba Niger state.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by angelfallz(m): 8:27pm On Oct 31, 2021
the whites played a role in undermining or culture sir.

thundafire:
shut up ur mouth how did Oyibo finish us all this nonsense force down our throats by our useless politicians and u believe. Did they stop Nigeria from developing abi na our people dey steal go outside.

If not for Oyibo will U be using Handsets or know about Android abi u for the Alaafin house as sacrificial ram wen him die. Travel out and compare ur country to the Oyibo then u will know that they have strong institution and not rubber-stamped as we have here
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Crixxx: 8:27pm On Oct 31, 2021
WesternOligarch:


Says the tribe whose leader cowardly ran off disguised as a woman after losing a war and sacrificing millions of his ape people's.
I rather run away than drink rat poison and die like a house rat. You Yoruba monkeys killed that cun-head.
Btw igbabgo says hi
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by invinzible1: 8:29pm On Oct 31, 2021
Astrid4:



See this animal
This was oyo empire in the 1600 and 1800
Am sure your forefathers was in the bush with your mother's naked
Fool!!!!

LoL, you are quite funny you believe that picture is from 1600 to 1800. Chai how old are you

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 8:29pm On Oct 31, 2021
Astrid4:


Yoruba civil war started from 1789-1880
And lets me not talk about the Yoruba/Fulani war that made Yoruba capture Jebba Niger state.

Please, stop telling lies.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Astrid4(m): 8:31pm On Oct 31, 2021

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Astrid4(m): 8:32pm On Oct 31, 2021
invinzible1:


LoL, you are quite funny you believe that picture is from 1600 to 1800. Chai how old are you

See this dumbass I posted a pics from a reputable website am sure your great grandfather were still in this bushes with apes when this pictures were taken grin

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Amalekki: 8:33pm On Oct 31, 2021
klas:


New York Times July 4 1960 edition
In 1960? Abakaliki why??

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 8:34pm On Oct 31, 2021
Astrid4:


See this fool grin grin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba_Revolutionary_Wars

Kids these days do stupid stuff like drinking alcool and quoting Wikipedia for African history.
Get a true historical document to prove your point, not a piece of garbage written by a troll online.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Bimpe29: 8:36pm On Oct 31, 2021
Oyo has been a pace setter overtime.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Praktikals(m): 8:36pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

Google is your friend.

We were never mates. NDIGBO didn't start getting rich after Nigeria but were created with it.
...

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 8:37pm On Oct 31, 2021
Astrid4:



See this animal
This was oyo empire in the 1600 and 1800
Am sure your forefathers was in the bush with your mother's naked
Fool!!!!
So you are actually so deluded that you believe this picture was taken in the 1600's ?

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Astrid4(m): 8:37pm On Oct 31, 2021
Truthvalue3:


Kids these days do stupid stuff like drinking alcool and quoting Wikipedia for African history.
Get a true historical document to prove your point, not a piece of garbage written by a troll online.

See this slowpoke Wikipedia is written by a troll
Who born this ape grin grin
Go skul you no go nah to push drugs all around in the guise of developer grin grin

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by SimplySonofman(m): 8:37pm On Oct 31, 2021
Have read all the comments
I thought this is a Yoruba cultural post




Why ate Ibos wailing and attacking people here
undecided undecided undecided

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by gasparpisciotta: 8:38pm On Oct 31, 2021
What a pity

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Enceladus(m): 8:38pm On Oct 31, 2021
LegendHero:


Let me translate it for you. I don’t know ami ohun much like that which explained why you might not understand it well. Also, I used a proper Oyo dialect.

—Oyo Alaafin (Oyo, the descendant of the Alaafin)
—Ojo pa sekere omo atiba (Rain must not beat sekere, Son of Atiba)
—Oyo nipe kolowo ko gbowo (Oyo said the creditor should collect his money)
—Oni koni iwofa gba tire (He also went to tell the debtor (Iwofa - a system where people use their family as collateral to borrow money) not to pay his debt)
—Ase kole ba di’ja, ko le ba daapon (Not knowing that the reason why Oyo did this is so that fight can happen)
—Komo oba le ri ‘n muje (So the prince can eat)
—Oyo gbin agbado oran seyinkule elenkule (Oyo planted a wicked mystery maize/corn of trouble at another man's backyard)
—Elenkule o gbodo faatu, be ni ko si gbodo faaya (The owner must not uproot it, and he must not shred it)
__Omo iku, tiku kogbódò pa
(child of death who death cannot kill)
----Omo Arun, tarun kogbódò see
(child of pestilence who cannot be tied down by sickness)
----Omo Ofo, tofo kogbódò see(child of calamity whom calamity can't afflict )

All this eulogy of Oyo is just showing the empire might. Imagine planting a corn/maize of trouble at the back of one’s compound and telling him not to uproot it nor shred it. Like you’re showing your might and power over them.

grin grin Thanks for translating this. And I have been deceiving myself that I can read Yoruba.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Astrid4(m): 8:39pm On Oct 31, 2021
Truthvalue3:

So you are actually so deluded that you believe this picture was taken in the 1600's ?

How would you know
When are your ancestors are in the bush with gorillas and ape grin grin

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 8:39pm On Oct 31, 2021
Astrid4:


See this slowpoke Wikipedia is written by a troll
Who born this ape grin grin
Go skul you no go nah to push drugs all around in the guise of developer grin grin
I repeat, that Wikipedia page was written by a yoruba troll. Look for real historical documents, not pieces of garbage written by jingoistic trolls.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by truthCoder: 8:39pm On Oct 31, 2021
Truthvalue3:


Kids these days do stupid stuff like drinking alcool and quoting Wikipedia for African history.
Get a true historical document to prove your point, not a piece of garbage written by a troll online.

So when was the war according to your own source? Counter him with facts and not insults.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by ezegenigbonine: 8:40pm On Oct 31, 2021
This is the reason why all Yoruba's are slaves to the Fulani's and to anybody who care to use them.

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