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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 1:18pm On Nov 01, 2021
7lives:
Add Kanem Borno empire please.
Please don't mention those who don't have ordinary kingdoms whenever you mentioned empires.
We are on the level as the Athenians and ancient Greece.
Home of philosophers who reasoned beyond time.

We don't wish to be compared with black savages that dwell in primitive monarchy and autocracy.
More like slaves celebrating their chains.

BTW, there was no Oyo empire or Benin Empire. We are not here to Joke.
And in true sense there was no Karnem-Borno Empire but either Borno or Kanem empire.

Dont take us for the savages you can deceive in Nigeria. Our Igbo ancestors can't invent democracy for us to fall to the lies of you Barbarians
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by KoshCAD: 1:18pm On Nov 01, 2021
Truthvalue4:
I said: I believe it is Auchi, I saw the picture a long time ago.
I asked you to provide proof of your claim, instead of doing so, you keep pushing hot air and beating your chest.
Link to the source of the document, please.
You believe it is hahahahaha.

Kid, go and play with the sand jare
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:19pm On Nov 01, 2021
I don't think the drawing depicts the palace on the picture, although there is some ressemblance.

Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 1:19pm On Nov 01, 2021
SlyDev:
Ibo Word for hate asi
Ibo Word for love ìfun anya

Yoruba word for love ife
Yoruba word for hate not available

We are evolved beings capable of true love
Asị means lie in Igbo.

Igbo word for hate doesn't exist.
Since you want to behave the way the w Fulani described you Yoruba people
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:21pm On Nov 01, 2021
KoshCAD:
You believe it is hahahahaha.

Kid, go and play with the sand jare
Where is your link to the source of the documents ?
You still haven't proven anything.
Instead you are just doing theatrics.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:22pm On Nov 01, 2021
Truthvalue4:
No, you are slave descendants and backstabbing uncle toms.
Okoro rant is allowed! Ibos were fine pickings of slaves to Bini, igala, Efiks, itsekiri and Ijaw, major fivesome gang b@ng on nyamuri weak ancestors
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:23pm On Nov 01, 2021
SlyDev:
Okoro rant is allowed! Ibos were fine pickings of slaves to Bini, igala, Efiks, itsekiri and Ijaw, major fivesome gang b@ng on your weak ancestors
Perhaps you should discuss that with an Igbo person...
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 1:23pm On Nov 01, 2021
KoshCAD:
Can you point out the name igbo in the write up there.

Can you please?
If your people learn to respect mine and our culture like we do to yours. All these won't be necessary.

Let me tell you one thing, there is nobody that knows half of Igbo culture like I do that will be intimidated by anybody or foreign culture which would sound primitive to us. Not even British and Arab culture
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:23pm On Nov 01, 2021
BKayy:
Asị means lie in Igbo.

Igbo word for hate doesn't exist.
Since you want to behave the way the w Fulani described you Yoruba people
Ibo man small small now

Hate asi
Love = not available

Your hatred is justified

Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:25pm On Nov 01, 2021
Truthvalue4:
Perhaps you should discuss that with an Igbo person...
One iboman denying his ancestors, not a new thing sha, if they are not hiding under Benin they are hiding under South South
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:26pm On Nov 01, 2021
BKayy:
We are on the level as the Athenians and ancient Greece.
Home of philosophers who reasoned beyond time.

We don't wish to be compared with black savages that dwell in primitive monarchy and autocracy.
More like slaves celebrating their chains.

BTW, there was no Oyo empire or Benin Empire. We are not here to Joke.
And in true sense there was no Karnem-Borno Empire but either Borno or Kanem empire.

Dont take us for the savages you can deceive in Nigeria. Our Igbo ancestors can't invent democracy for us to fall to the lies of you Barbarians
Correction:

1)There was a Benin empire, as shown in the precolonial map below. (The Mao is from Gallica website).
2) there was no oyo empire, indeed.
3) I don't think it is even reasonable at this point to dispute the existence of Benin empire, with all the media attention around Benin bronzes even toddlers today know that there was a Benin empire.

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2
4) it is due to the existence of Benin empire that the Oba of Benin had a trade monopole in the region, which was one of the reasons the British went to war against Benin. Also the bight if Benin git itS name from an empire called Benin.

Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by KoshCAD: 1:27pm On Nov 01, 2021
BKayy:
If your people learn to respect mine and our culture like we do to yours. All these won't be necessary.

Let me tell you one thing, there is nobody that knows half of Igbo culture like I do that will be intimidated by anybody or foreign culture which would sound primitive to us. Not even British and Arab culture
You do what? If you do, you won't be a voy-ure here.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by KoshCAD: 1:29pm On Nov 01, 2021
Truthvalue4:
Where is your link to the source of the documents ?
You still haven't proven anything.
Instead you are just doing theatrics.
I don't have your time. I will answer you when you proof yourself by bringing out the picture of your Auchi or whatever you call it.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 1:30pm On Nov 01, 2021
SlyDev:
Ibo man small small now

Hate asi
Love = not available

Your hatred is justified
You need a translator to argue Igbo word with an "Igbo man"
Lol.
Please translate this and tell me the meaning from your translator. It will explain your foolishness practically.
"Ndi diochi na ete nkwu tere ete ete"

Igbo or any African language was not created from the template of any European language so you don't expect them to be a mirror of any language.
Translate what I wrote first and your foolishness will be cured
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:32pm On Nov 01, 2021
KoshCAD:
I don't have your time. I will answer you when you proof yourself by bringing out the picture of your Auchi or whatever you call it.
I am not committed to the picture being of the palace of Auchi, it seems you don't understand English. I said "I think" !
Are you also not committed to the picture being that of the palace of oyo ?
In that case you are just wasting everybody's time !

Provide proof ! Provide a link to the source of the documents or at least be honest enough to say "I think" and confirm you are not sure of your claim but only believe in it.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by KoshCAD: 1:35pm On Nov 01, 2021
BKayy:
We are on the level as the Athenians and ancient Greece.
Home of philosophers who reasoned beyond time.

We don't wish to be compared with black savages that dwell in primitive monarchy and autocracy.
More like slaves celebrating their chains.

BTW, there was no Oyo empire or Benin Empire. We are not here to Joke.
And in true sense there was no Karnem-Borno Empire but either Borno or Kanem empire.

Dont take us for the savages you can deceive in Nigeria. Our Igbo ancestors can't invent democracy for us to fall to the lies of you Barbarians
Hahahahaha, who is salvage between set of people that eat human flesh and tagged some part of the OSU and use them as sacrifice to a useless and worthless gods.

You as OSU as you are, you can't even dine and wine with free born called Diala.

Diala girl dares not take you home to her people, they will reject you cos they see you as OSU(Sacrifice to gods)

People that practise such barbaric culture is calling people that see themselves as one and humans.

You wonder why Israel rejected you despite trying hard to belong to them

Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by KoshCAD: 1:36pm On Nov 01, 2021
Truthvalue4:
I am not committed to the picture being of the palace of Auchi, it seems you don't understand English. I said "I think" !
Are you also not committed to the picture being that of the palace of oyo ?
In that case you are just wasting everybody's time !

Provide proof ! Provide source to a link to the source of the documents or at least be honest enough to say "I think" and confirm you are not sure of you claim but only believe in it.
Oga ade, get off my mention since you find it difficult to provide your Auchi picture.

Oh, and you did not see it somewhere before again?
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:39pm On Nov 01, 2021
KoshCAD:
Oga ade, get off my mention since you find it difficult to provide your Auchi picture.

Oh, and you did not see it somewhere before again?
Are you mentally ill or something ?

I repeat:

Truthvalue4:
I am not committed to the picture being of the palace of Auchi, it seems you don't understand English. I said "I think" !
Are you also not committed to the picture being that of the palace of oyo ?
In that case you are just wasting everybody's time !

Provide proof ! Provide a link to the source of the documents or at least be honest enough to say "I think" and confirm you are not sure of you claim but only believe in it.
Ok, enough, you are a fraud. You can't provide a link to the source of the documents of which you posted pictures right here, instead you keep talking and talking and talking...it doesn't take 3 hours to provide a link, it is done in less than a second.

Fraudulent chap.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by KoshCAD: 1:43pm On Nov 01, 2021
Truthvalue4:
Are you mentally ill or something ?

I repeat:



Ok, enough, you are a fraud. You can't provide a link to the source of the documents of which you posted pictures right here, I stead you keep talking and talking and talking...it doesn't take 3 hours to provide a link, it is done in less than a second.

Fraudulent chap.
Keep crying. When you are ready to engage me, you will bring the picture of your Auchi or Audi.

Yea, but to bring picture takes 35years
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:45pm On Nov 01, 2021
KoshCAD:
Keep crying. When you are ready to engage me, you will bring the picture of your Auchi or Audi.
Do you actually believe you are making sense ?

I repeat:

Truthvalue4:
I am not committed to the picture being of the palace of Auchi, it seems you don't understand English. I said "I think" !
Are you also not committed to the picture being that of the palace of oyo ?
In that case you are just wasting everybody's time !

Provide proof ! Provide a link to the source of the documents or at least be honest enough to say "I think" and confirm you are not sure of your claim but only believe in it.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 1:46pm On Nov 01, 2021
KoshCAD:
Hahahahaha, who is salvage between set of people that eat human flesh and tagged some part of the OSU and use them as sacrifice to a useless and worthless gods.

You as OSU as you are, you can't even dine and wine with free born called Diala.

Diala girl dares not take you home to her people, they will reject you cos they see you as OSU(Sacrifice to gods)

People that practise such barbaric culture is calling people that see themselves as one and humans.

You wonder why Israel rejected you despite trying hard to belong to them
You wish you are Igbo for you to be vomiting such nonsense.
Any proof? No.

Now let's look at the Yoruba savages/cannibals roaming around Nigeria.
During Endsars, didn't you Yoruba cannibals roast and eat a police officer at Oyo?

Lets take a look at the crime section where your people harvest each other as culture deems fit. In Yoruba land there is a sect known as harvesters that harvest other yoruba people they plant like crops for body parts.
Do we need to take about the skull miners of Ogun and Osun? Those that made us understand that there is a difference between dry skull and wet skull.

As a Yoruba person, you don't need to talk when civilised people like Igbo talk. You guys are the living example of Savagery and Cannibalism.
People that eat human heart like the family of Ogun.

Why are you people scared of staying alone? Because you know that without interference of other great nations like Ndigbo, you will harvest each other to extinction.

Know your place, my dear black Barbarian
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:53pm On Nov 01, 2021
BKayy:
You need a translator to argue Igbo word with an "Igbo man"
Lol.
Please translate this and tell me the meaning from your translator. It will explain your foolishness practically.
"Ndi diochi na ete nkwu tere ete ete"

Igbo or any African language was not created from the template of any European language so you don't expect them to be a mirror of any language.
Translate what I wrote first and your foolishness will be cured
More rants and hatred, I'm done with you
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 1:56pm On Nov 01, 2021
SlyDev:
More rants and hatred, I'm done with you
Failed to translate?

Atleast, today you have come to an understanding that Igbo language is too sophisticated for a mere program by a white dude to handle.
The perfect Igbo translator will be released by Ndigbo not one white monkey in Europe.

If it is Yoruba language which any cat and dog can interpret, you won't be having a tough time like this or disgrace yourself.

Now how does it feel like to be made to appear like a fool because of half baked post you saw on Nairaland that Ndigbo don't have any word for love?

I need your answer to further my research
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by oyatz(m): 1:57pm On Nov 01, 2021
Truthvalue4:
Right here:



It is quite obvious what you are saying.
What is obvious? A pure conscience fears no accussations.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 1:59pm On Nov 01, 2021
BKayy:
Failed to translate?

Atleast, today you have come to an understanding that Igbo language is too sophisticated for a mere program by a white dude to handle.
The perfect Igbo translator will be released by Ndigbo not one white monkey in Europe.

If it is Yoruba language which any cat and dog can interpret, you won't be having a tough time like this or disgrace yourself.

Now how does it feel like to be made to appear like a fool because of half baked post you saw on Nairaland that Ndigbo don't have any word for love?

I need your answer to further my research
Actually, it is more complicated to create an easily readable language than to create a language which would be hard to read.
Any toddler can create a hard language to read.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Shikena(m):
0balufonlll:
1. Does that means the position of his father has become obliterated and he has taken his father's position in the family?

2. Your response there is noble but the Oyo and especially the Alaafin thinks differently at least maybe during Ooni Sijuade's days.
Going round in circles with this helps no one, but I'm glad you accepted that there is a noble path here.

1. You asked a specific question and I helped provide an answer, and gave you a clear and specific example of the current Ooni of Ife being greater than his father. An example that you are very much familiar with, obliteration of the father and his position is a different issue that depends on the culture at Ife.
2. I don't know what you and I can do about how the Oyos and the Alaafin think. They have legitimate claim to the way they think but the fact is that Alaafin is the king of Oyo, not Ife and Ooni is the king of Ife, not Oyo. Also, the then Ooni Sijuade have legitimate claims to his position too. What they cannot change or manipulate is the fact that they have their separate domains.

How many times are we going to keep answering the question of who is greater between the Ooni and the Alaafin? It is a meaningless question, and I have noticed that this question is always craftily injected in threads to keep the supremacy debate going. Supremacy for what, and to what end?
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 2:01pm On Nov 01, 2021
Truthvalue4:
Actually, it is more complicated to create an easily readable language than to create a language which would be hard to read.
It is easy to mimic the barking of dogs (dog language)
Does that make the creation of dog barks complicated?

Do you now understand that Yoruba language is in the same category as barking of dogs.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 2:03pm On Nov 01, 2021
Shikena:
Going round in circles with this helps no one, but I'm glad you accepted that there is a noble path here.

1. You asked a specific question and I helped provide an answer, and gave you a clear and specific example of the current Ooni of Ife being [b]greater [/b]than his father. An example that you are very much familiar with, obliteration of the father and his position is a different issue that depends on the culture at Ife.
2. I don't know what you and I can do about how the Oyos and the Alaafin think. They have legitimate claim to the way they think but the fact is that Alaafin is the king of Oyo, not Ife and Ooni is the king of Ife, not Oyo. Also, the then Ooni Sijuade have legitimate claims to his position too. What they cannot change or manipulate is the fact that they have their separate domains.

How many times are we going to keep answering the question of who is greater between the Ooni and the Alaafin? It is a meaningless question, and I have noticed that this question is always craftily injected in threads to keep the supremacy debate going. Supremacy for what, and to what end?
The Oni of Ifa is clearly the priest of the afin of oyo, the Oni of Ifa is a mere priest, not a king.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 2:04pm On Nov 01, 2021
BKayy:
It is easy to mimic the barking of dogs (dog language)
Does that make the creation of dog barks complicated?

Do you now understand that Yoruba language is in the same category as barking of dogs.
How do you saying "I am going to Paris", in dog language ?
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 2:04pm On Nov 01, 2021
Truthvalue4:
How do you saying: I am going to Paris in dog language ?
Puff puff puff.
It will be similar in Yoruba language
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by michresakidjo(m): 2:26pm On Nov 01, 2021
seunmsg:
Beautiful. So proud to be a Yoruba man with royal blood.No wonder the other side with little or no history or early civilization are always jealous and hateful of everything about the south west.
You started this ethnic jingoism. Repent.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by ThatFairGuy: 2:27pm On Nov 01, 2021
Wow. You just remind me Sir cheesy
7lives:
Let me add more to this cheesy grin grin
Ore ajele pataki, ti nbe l'ajule Orun.
Olowo Adugbo, baba Gbadegesin.
Eni a pete pero pe ka da owo e de ile.
To je pe pipele lo npele si.

There's more, let someone complete it
If no one knows it, I shall come and complete it.
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