MightySparrow:


This is interesting, where is the name Jehovah started in the Bible which translation?

Interesting question?

haddeylium:


God's name Jehovah appears more than 7,000 times in the Bible.
BYINGTON, AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION,ROTHERHAM.
In KJV, you can find it in Exodus 6:3, Psalm 83:18, Isaiah 12:2; 26:4 and it was removed in more than 7,000 other places it occurs and replaced with capital LORD.

Before dem born NWT so you can find Jehovah in BYINGTON, ASV, ROTHERHAM

So who is removing what? Who unquestionably arranging that the name Jehovah should be omitted.

This your thread no get basis or foundation to stand upon

Bo le ni be.

haddeylium:


Sorry, I think this is beyond you.

Are you sure?

The removal you posit all this while cannot answer the question thrown at you.

haddeylium:


Think about it. How would your father feels if he had his name removed from the book he authored?
How would you feel if you went to your bank to see about your money, but “hackers" have deleted YOUR NAME? And the bank teller telling you that your name is unregistered with this account?

What feelings does God have when he looks down from heaven to see theologians and Bible editors hacking his name out of his own Word?
What kind of person(s) would remove God's Name from His own Word?

This God unquestionably arrange that his name be omitted and allowed it during this era...... Fred Franz


Who is removing what? Before the organization you belong produced the NWT there are Bibles having that name JEHOVAH. The religious organisation you belong don't adopt those bibles as official to be used.

His name that was removed still did not made it impossible for his people to develop relationships with him.

Think about it. How would your father feels if he had his name removed from the book he authored.... Haddeylium


Jesus Christ should be condemned by this JEHOVAH for never for once using that name and for using the word FATHER mostly. Jehovah should regret sending Jesus christ to the earth paapaa.

haddeylium:


What denomination do you think removed that God's name from his book in more than 7000 places?

You can't say Christendom

Will be watching this closely.

haddeylium:


God's name Jehovah appears more than 7,000 times in the Bible.
BYINGTON, AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION,ROTHERHAM.
In KJV, you can find it in Exodus 6:3, Psalm 83:18, Isaiah 12:2; 26:4 and it was removed in more than 7,000 other places it occurs and replaced with capital LORD.

Before Exodus 6;3 was God known by any name?
Which other versions other than the one shown above? What makes it special?

MightySparrow:

Before Exodus 6;3 was God known by any name?
Which other versions other than the one shown above? What makes it special?

Please can you explain what this Bible book says here:

And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD. Genesis 4:26 KJV

I know you MightySparrow and how this meant much to you but má bàá ọ̀bọ jáwùrà, gbìyànjú kòó lóye ọ̀rọ̀ yìí nítorí ìgbàlà rẹ!

haddeylium:


I won't say you're misinformed because you only reply based on the much you know.
Yes! You're right, the letter J wasn't invented untill 1600 in English modern language but

Can Jerusalem be the Jewish holy city if the letter J did not exist in the Hebrew language?
Isn't the pronunciation of 'Yehousa' as Jesus hypocritical?
What about Joshua, Jeremiah, Jacob? They're are all Hebrew names.
Have they been altered as well?
That's is what is called Translations. A letter is just a pictorial symbol of a human vocal sound.

That's a lame and baseless excuse to desecrated God's word by removing his own name as the Author of his book

You are actually the one who don't understand what you are saying. And you contributed to the desecration. You corrupted the name and yet think yours is correct but others aren't.

What you wrote up there just confirmed that if we have to follow your argument of confirming God name through spellings then even Jerusalem, Jeremiah etc will all be wrong names. You are the one who proposed this J to be part of God's name. It was never part.


I don't have issues with the usage of J, which of course is not part of Jewish consonant. But you were the one who want to box God into Jehovah because you felt others are wrong. Hence I let you know that even the name spelling Jehovah is corrupted if we go by your explanation. Hence your explanation will also make Jerusalem wrong. It was never called Jerusalem until recent, go and check your jews lexicon well.
But you tried to justify your own corruption.

So, my point is.

Using lord for Jehovah or yahweh or yhwh isn't the issue but your understanding of the word and your heart. But since you want to tread that line, I gave you to poser.

This thread was going somewhere and raising many salient questions until maxindhouse almost spoilt it.

Maxindhouse, must you narrow down every Scriptural issue to your group?

haekymbahd:
Did Jesus or Apostle Paul called God by the name Jehovah

Not by Jehovah, but they sure talked about him and called him by his name when there was need.

elated177:
This thread was going somewhere and raising many salient questions until maxindhouse almost spoilt it.
Maxindhouse, must you narrow down every Scriptural issue to your group?

For all the peoples will walk, each in the name of its god, But we will walk in the name of Jehovah our God forever and ever! Micah 4:5

Go and worship with the people calling the name of your own God!

haekymbahd:
Both Yahwe and Jehovah are not the true name of God according to the

Since Jesus didn't pronounce the name either how can we be sure that Jehovah or Yahwe is the true pronounciation of the name of God and not demons?

Why do you always remove "h" from the name "Yahweh"?

MaxInDHouse:


Of course God is not interested in the way you pronounce his name but we must be aware that he has a PERSONAL name that's what matters.
For instance some call him Yehowah, Lehova, Jehovah, Jèhófà but we know that it's the tongue that differs the name is the same.
Just as the name Jesus, Jesu, Yeshua, Yesu is not disputed when mentioned!

So he is not interested in the spelling and pronunciation now? Even when you call him a name that doesn't exist in any language? Jehovah wasn't Jew, that's not what Moses got. Jehovah doesn't exist in any language, it was coined out from a language. But you said God isn't interested in that but interested in why it was used as Lord.

Okay nah.

MaxInDHouse:


Please can you explain what this Bible book says here:

And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD. Genesis 4:26 KJV

I know you MightySparrow and how this meant much to you but má bàá ọ̀bọ jáwùrà, gbìyànjú kòó lóye ọ̀rọ̀ yìí nítorí ìgbàlà rẹ!

Which name did they call upon in Genesis 4: 26?

MaxInDHouse:


For all the peoples will walk, each in the name of its god, But we will walk in the name of Jehovah our God forever and ever! Micah 4:5

Oh, very sweetacious!

I love that portion of the Scripture so much. I have always been of the opinion that people should be mentioning the names of the gods they worship and not hide behind the general title "god".

Micah 4:5 All the nations may walk in the name of their gods, but we will walk in the name of YAHVEH our God for ever and ever.

Here is another sweetacious portion:

Yirmiyahu(Jeremiah) 23: 27 They think the dreams they tell one another will make my people forget my name, just as their ancestors forgot my name through Baal worship.

El Elohe Yahshrael!

MaxInDHouse:

Go and worship with the people calling the name of your own God!

The name is one part and obedience to his Commandments is another part. So, maxindhouse, it is not just about those who are calling the name of the Creator, but also about those who are obeying his Commandments. These two parts are inseparable.

John 6: 53 Yahushua said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

Hallelu YAH!

Maxindhouse, "Hallelu YAH" should tell you that the name of the Creator is not "Jehovah".

Hallelu YAH ==== Praise YAH.

hupernikao:


So he is not interested in the spelling and pronunciation now? Even when you call him a name that doesn't exist in any language? Jehovah wasn't Jew, that's not what Moses got. Jehovah doesn't exist in any language, it was coined out from a language. But you said God isn't interested in that but interested in why it was used as Lord.

Okay nah.

For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 1Corinthians 8:5

Note that it's the Bible writers and translators that choose to refer to other people's Gods and Lords in lower letters.
To an Hindu Krishna is LORD, to a Roman Jupiter is LORD, to an Egyptian Ra is LORD, to a Greek Zeus is LORD.
So what distinguish the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob from these other Gods and Lords if not His personal name? Psalms 83:18

Meanwhile you as a person if you travel to China as an engineer where almost everyone is an engineer, what will you prefer to be called? Is it Engineer or your personal name?
What if you're Adéṣọlá and they Chinese tongue finds it difficult to pronounce your name correctly only to end up saying "Azezola" will you insist on changing his tongue or prefer to be addressed as Engineer?

My friend every sane person will ignore the tongue so far you know that the Chinese has tried his best to call your name, it's when someone else ask you that you'll now pronounce your name better than the Chinese yet you will admit that the Chinese is calling on you anytime he says "Azezola"

Think about this!

MightySparrow:

Which name did they call upon in Genesis 4: 26?

What if i tell you that people knew God's personal name throughout the earth before God confused their language?
Well it's after fallen angels have become Gods and given people different names that the true God called Abraham and introduced himself!
So people knew back then that Adam, Abel, Enoch, Noah all knew God by His personal name not just God or Lord!

elated177:
Maxindhouse, "Hallelu YAH" should tell you that the name of the Creator is not "Jehovah".

Hallelu YAH ==== Praise YAH.

Well the topic here is about God's personal name so if you have something tangible to say regarding the topic of discussion, don't digress instead let everyone know whether your own God has a PERSONAL name or not!

MaxInDHouse:


Well the topic here is about God's personal name so if you have something tangible to say regarding the topic of discussion, don't digress instead let everyone know whether your own God has a PERSONAL name or not!

Taaah! Don't accuse me of something that you are guilty of. Are my contributions not obvious to you? Is not the name of my God, my Father in heaven, clearly portrayed in all my threads and comments on this forum? What are you talking about, maxindhouse?

elated177:

Taaah! Don't accuse me of something that you guilty of. Are my contributions not obvious to you? Is not the name of my God, my Father in heaven, clearly portrayed in all my threads and comments on this forum? What are you talking about, maxindhouse?

What is the name of your own God? Period!

MaxInDHouse:


What is the name of your own God? Period!

Well, let me oblige you.

My God is the same God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God Jacob. He is the Mighty One of Israel --- the Mighty One of Jacob.

From careful study of materials, I have come to settle for the name "YHVH"/"YAHVEH".

elated177:


Well, let me oblige you.

My God is the same God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God Jacob. He is the Mighty One of Israel --- the Mighty One of Jacob.

From careful study of materials, I have come to settle for the name "YHVH"/"YAHVEH".

Good so your own God has a PERSONAL name shey?
So tell everyone why you believe in the God who has a PERSONAL name and not just the title "GOD"

Meanwhile you committed a blunder!

YHWH is the original Hebrew and ancient Hebrews doesn't have the letter "J" so how come one of the patriarchs bears Jacob when you don't want to use the modern translation of the names?

MaxInDHouse:


What if i tell you that people knew God's personal name throughout the earth before God confused their language?
Well it's after fallen angels have become Gods and given people different names that the true God called Abraham and introduced himself!
So people knew back then that Adam, Abel, Enoch, Noah all knew God by His personal name not just God or Lord!

No proof. When God introduced himself to Moses, it was then, He told Moses ' Jehovah ' before then, He told Moses the name that Abraham didn't know by Jehovah but another. Even the name given to Abraham was not abandoned. Exodus 3: 15.

So, is it wrong to call God by that name today?

MightySparrow:

No proof. When God introduced himself to Moses, it was then, He told Moses ' Jehovah ' before then, He told Moses the name that Abraham didn't know by Jehovah but another. Even the name given to Abraham was not abandoned. Exodus 3: 15.
So, is it wrong to call God by that name today?

The point at Exodus 6:3 is clear.
Abraham knew the God that called him by a personal name

And he removed from thence unto a mountain on the east of Bethel, and pitched his tent, having Bethel on the west, and Hai on the east: and there he builded an altar unto the LORD, and called upon the name of the LORD. Genesis 12:8 KJV

Later he moved from there to the mountainous region east of Bethʹel and pitched his tent with Bethʹel on the west and Aʹi on the east. There he built an altar to Jehovah and began to call on the name of Jehovah. Genesis 12:8 NWT

I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that the Hebrew word translated to LORD in the KJV is the PERSONAL name of the Hebrew God!

MaxInDHouse:


Good so your own God has a PERSONAL name shey?
So tell everyone why you believe in the God who has a PERSONAL name and not just the title "GOD"

What are you on about?

MaxInDHouse:

Meanwhile you committed a blunder!

YHWH is the original Hebrew and ancient Hebrews doesn't have the letter "J" so how come one of the patriarchs bears Jacob when you don't want to use the modern translation of the names?

What blunder? Don't allow your hatred disgrace you.

Go and make your own research.

Don't make this thread about me.


There is a portion of the Scriptures that you have been brandishing all over the place. I want to open a thread in that regard and call your attention to it. Should I?

elated177:

What are you on about?
What blunder? Don't allow your hatred disgrace you.
Go and make your own research.
Don't make this thread about me.
There is a portion of the Scriptures that you have been brandishing all over the place. I want to open a thread in that regard and call your attention to it. Should I?

You're obsessed with this disgrace of a thing, so when someone enlightens you it's a disgrace to you, shey? No wonder you always argue blindly!

Well YHWH is the four Hebrew letters for the divine name and Jehovah's Witnesses prefer using JHVH since all other names has been translated and there was no contention over it.
For instance: Jacob, Jonah, Jehoshaphat, John Jesus, James, Judas, Judah, Jonathan, Jeremiah, Jonah and many more were translated and generally accepted. So if anyone is raising an objection over the use of the name JEHOVAH then he or she mustn't pronounce any Hebrew name translated!

MaxInDHouse:


You're obsessed with this disgrace of a thing, so when someone enlightens you it's a disgrace to you, shey? No wonder you always argue blindly!

You have a knack for trying to channel your frustrations to someone else. Ahuchimchim! Aren't you the one who is always arguing blindly? Don't bother yourself, maxindhouse, the Spirit in me is by far higher and greater than the evil spirits in you and they must always react angrily and be in anguish each time our paths cross. We are vibrating at different frequencies and it is completely impossible for you to channel your frustrations to me. You, maxindhouse, are beneath me. Where is the blunder, maxindhouse, the second undisputed ahuichimite!

MaxInDHouse:


Well YHWH is the four Hebrew letters for the divine name and Jehovah's Witnesses prefer using JHVH since all other names has been translated and there was no contention over it.
For instance: Jacob, Jonah, Jehoshaphat, John Jesus, James, Judas, Judah, Jonathan, Jeremiah, Jonah and many more were translated and generally accepted. So if anyone is raising an objection over the use of the name JEHOVAH then he or she mustn't pronounce any Hebrew name translated!

Like I said above, I will not spoon-feed you. Go and carry out your own research. If you were even paying attention, you would have realized my stance on your statement above. I have hinted on such above.

elated177:

You have a knack for trying to channel your frustrations to someone else. Ahuchimchim! Aren't you the one who is always arguing blindly? Don't bother yourself, maxindhouse, the Spirit in me is by far higher and greater than the evil spirits in you and they must always react angrily and be in anguish each time our parts cross. We are vibrating at different frequencies and it is completely impossible for you to channel your frustrations to me. You, maxindhouse, are beneath me. Where is the blunder, maxindhouse, the second undisputed ahuichimite! Like I said above, I will not spoon-feed you. Go and carry out your own research. If you were even paying attention, you would have realized my stance on your statement above. I have hinted on such above.

I don't have your time but because you specifically mentioned me that's why i quoted you.
What i said is simple:
YHWH is the original Hebrew letters for the divine name, JWs translated it to JHVH just as all other Hebrew names were translated and till today the most popular city in that country is named Jerusalem so if the Hebrew names and the city is translated why should any right thinking person criticize JWs for using the divine name in translated form?

hupernikao:


I will reach you by tomorrow.

Good afternoon

Janosky:

Emusan LIENUS, LYING genius doing his thing

JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil

You Emusan done expose yourself finally.
@ Mark 12:29 Jesus quoted YHWH.
Emusan says his mentors,"Pharisees and Sadducees have replaced (YHWH) with Adonai and Elohim."

When you don't know history, is that anyone's fault?

John 15:15 & John 17:6,26, Jesus Christ proven that Emusan LIENUS is a LYING genius.

JaNosense the lying liar JWs!

If I make my name 'Paul' KNOWN to you, Emusan. Have I taught you, Emusan, that my name is 'Paul'?
Emusan lacks comprehension skills. No be lie.
Yet , shamelessly arrogant.

Only a deluded will change KNOWN to TAUGHT

So Jesus never used the name Jehovah even you self agreed that Jesus only QUOTED IT from OT

Emusan LIENUS DECEIVING himself again.

Says the JWs deceiver

He forgot he said
Emusan says his mentors,"Pharisees and Sadducees have replaced (YHWH) with Adonai and Elohim."

Everyone knows including your demonic organization that the divine name was replaced with Elohim and Adonai

John 17:6,26 , Mark 12:29 biblical proof.
Read this secular proof in the screenshot.
The Jews have found out that God's name is NOT hidden.
Emusan,Read and learn

As usual, it's now secular PROOF but if this same secular PROOF go against your fraudulent organization, you will begin to change tune.

Besides, do you see that your secular PROOF says it's YAHWEH and not Jehovah

That's how senseless you can be!

MaxInDHouse:


I don't have your time but because you specifically mentioned me that's why i quoted you.
What i said is simple:
YHWH is the original Hebrew letters for the divine name, JWs translated it to JHVH just as all other Hebrew names were translated and till today the most popular city in that country is named Jerusalem so if the Hebrew names and the city is translated why should any right thinking person criticize JWs for using the divine name in translated form?

Again, go and do your own research.