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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 2:43pm On Nov 11, 2021
wonlasewonimi:


$100 haba. This one na the Ajetumobis in disguise


A share is only worth what people are willing to pay........

Unfortunately, my type of person, never falls for hype and wall street wolves........... grin

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by OSCARTM: 2:44pm On Nov 11, 2021
hustla:



Ease of getting the jobs / availability
How one can position oneself for a Big 4 job
How one can learn more or get certified in those ISO courses (i have not been able to see much online)

Thanks

Ease of getting jobs - There is shortage of these skills, for example, set up a job notification on LinkedIn with some of the certifications I mentioned earlier, try locations like (Nigeria, Canada, UK and US), you will be shocked as to the amount of job notifications which you will receive daily. The shortage is hitting Nigeria and UK more, due to Canada migration and Brexit respectively.
Search and network with those who have these skills on LinkedIn, their frequent posts & conversations will enlighten you more.

Positioning for Big4 jobs - It requires a lot of hard work and constant research, you need to realize that the career switch will not be a "walk in the park". Considering that you do not have prior experience, you need to start with earning the certifications which gives you a background knowledge about the career you intend to switch to. For example, I will recommend CISSP or CISM exams for entry into information security.

After passing one or more certifications, include them in your CV and start applying for related roles. You might need to modify your CV to include the responsibilities set in the job advert (but ensure you have a fair knowledge of them). Big4 will give you the best of training/experience especially if you can get in at an associate level, however, there are loads of smaller consulting firms/companies that will give you the chance to "kick start" your career switch with little or no experience.


Getting certified in ISO courses - ISO certifications are usually sponsored by corporate organizations due to the cost(training facilitators will require a certain quorum in class), and it's mostly bundled with the company's certification projects (usually a 3yr cycle). In Nigeria, you can check PECB accredited centres and other training institutes like Rhythex Consulting at Ilupeju, A.J Silicon at Alausa Ikeja.
In my opinion, getting ISO certification is not a good entry point, I believe the scope is limited.

In the end, your determination to succeed matters a lot. A friend of mine who has a social science degree is doing well in an IT security risk/compliance role in a Global Bank in the U.K.

Cheers.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by OSCARTM: 2:51pm On Nov 11, 2021
obitryce:
Please house, is it a must that all family members must be present for BRP collection or my wife and I can go along with the passports for the kids to pick them up?
A quick response will be appreciated thanks.

Everyone must be present with their international passports.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Stereotypes: 3:02pm On Nov 11, 2021
Lexusgs430:



Portfolio diversification is very Important.......... grin

I've learned hot lessons. Im copying one person that just does etf but omo red too.

So much gnashing of teeth for me this period cry cry
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by dupyshoo: 3:08pm On Nov 11, 2021
@bolded, CISSP and CISM are not entry level certification. You can't use CISSP and CISM until you have been endorsed. To be endorsed, you will need to pass the exam and also have minimum of 4 year work experience and
required academic qualification/certification.
OSCARTM:


Ease of getting jobs - There is shortage of these skills, for example, set up a job notification on LinkedIn with some of the certifications I mentioned earlier, try locations like (Nigeria, Canada, UK and US), you will be shocked as to the amount of job notifications which you will receive daily. The shortage is hitting Nigeria and UK more, due to Canada migration and Brexit respectively.
Search and network with those who have these skills on LinkedIn, their frequent posts & conversations will enlighten you more.

Positioning for Big4 jobs - It requires a lot of hard work and constant research, you need to realize that the career switch will not be a "walk in the park". Considering that you do not have prior experience, you need to start with earning the certifications which gives you a background knowledge about the career you intend to switch to. For example, I will recommend CISSP or CISM exams for entry into information security.

After passing one or more certifications, include them in your CV and start applying for related roles. You might need to modify your CV to include the responsibilities set in the job advert (but ensure you have a fair knowledge of them). Big4 will give you the best of training/experience especially if you can get in at an associate level, however, there are loads of smaller consulting firms/companies that will give you the chance to "kick start" your career switch with little or no experience.


Getting certified in ISO courses - ISO certifications are usually sponsored by corporate organizations due to the cost(training facilitators will require a certain quorum in class), and it's mostly bundled with the company's certification projects (usually a 3yr cycle). In Nigeria, you can check PECB accredited centres and other training institutes like Rhythex Consulting at Ilupeju, A.J Silicon at Alausa Ikeja.
In my opinion, getting ISO certification is not a good entry point, I believe the scope is limited.

In the end, your determination to succeed matters a lot. A friend of mine who has a social science degree is doing well in an IT security risk/compliance role in a Global Bank in the U.K.

Cheers.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by beryour(m): 3:27pm On Nov 11, 2021
This is very true.

For entry level, he/she should be looking at Comptia Sec+ and the likes.

dupyshoo:
@bolded, CISSP and CISM are not entry level certification. You can't use CISSP and CISM until you have been endorsed. To be endorsed, you will need to pass the exam and also have minimum of 4 year work experience and
required academic qualification/certification.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 3:56pm On Nov 11, 2021
Stereotypes:


I've learned hot lessons. Im copying one person that just does etf but omo red too.

So much gnashing of teeth for me this period cry cry


You never experience a real negative balance, until you sell ..........

What goes down, would surely climb up ......... Copy more people with diversified portfolios..........

Red, is actually a time to buy .......... cheesy
$OTLY is now blinking red, so I just snatched some oats ........... cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by kaffy055: 5:53pm On Nov 11, 2021
dupyshoo:
If you are coming to England, the 7 year old will be in year 3 in September after clocking 7, 11 year old will be in year 7 ( 1st year in high school). Your last child can't start school until he/she is 4 year old. The governmentwill give you 15hrs free nursery once your baby is 3 year old though.

Regarding timing, it is usually better to enrol them in September when the session starts. However, you can still bring them in January. You might not be able to get them into your desired school due to

oversubscription. I will advise you start looking at
schools now and plan where you will live based on that.


Thanks for the information
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by OSCARTM: 5:55pm On Nov 11, 2021
dupyshoo:
@bolded, CISSP and CISM are not entry level certification. You can't use CISSP and CISM until you have been endorsed. To be endorsed, you will need to pass the exam and also have minimum of 4 year work experience and
required academic qualification/certification.

Yes you can't use the badge, but passing the exam is sufficient for you to get an information security job.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by dupyshoo: 5:59pm On Nov 11, 2021
Security+ is also sufficient to get information
security job. So why go for something you are not allowed to use.
OSCARTM:


Yes you can't use the badge, but passing the exam is sufficient for you to get an information security job.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by OSCARTM: 6:01pm On Nov 11, 2021
beryour:
This is very true.

For entry level, he/she should be looking at [b]Comptia Sec+ [/b]and the likes.


That's for cyber security.

The guide I gave is for Information Security, cyber security is a subset of information security.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by OSCARTM: 6:18pm On Nov 11, 2021
dupyshoo:
Security+ is also sufficient to get information
security job. So why go for something you are not allowed to use.

CISM/CISSP exam notification results will get you an information security job interview easily, and the experience on the job will help with the requirements to obtain the badge/certification.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by dupyshoo: 6:34pm On Nov 11, 2021
So security+ is only relevant to cybersecurity?

OSCARTM:


That's for cyber security.

The guide I gave is for Information Security, cyber security is a subset of information security.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by dupyshoo: 6:44pm On Nov 11, 2021
There is no guarantee that it will get you an information security job. I have sat on interview panels which candidates with CISSP did not pass and people without made it.
You need to answer the questions in interview before passing.

In fact, because CISSP is so wide, you might not remember most of the things in the book after passing. Have you attended any interview and they are asking for bell la biba or la padula? The fact that you have CISSP will raise the expectation of the interviewers that if you don't meet up, you will likely not be taken.

A lot of people do not have CISSP and they are earning a lot. So I believe that CISSP is overkill for someone looking for entry level information security role.

OSCARTM:


CISM/CISSP exam notification results will get you an information security job interview easily, and the experience on the job will help with the requirements to obtain the badge/certification.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by OSCARTM: 7:13pm On Nov 11, 2021
dupyshoo:
There is no guarantee that it will get you an information security job. I have sat on interview panels which candidates with CISSP did not pass and people without made it.
You need to answer the questions in interview before passing.

In fact, because CISSP is so wide, you might not remember most of the things in the book after passing. Have you attended any interview and they are asking for bell la biba or la padula? The fact that you have CISSP will raise the expectation of the interviewers that if you don't meet up, you will likely not be taken.

A lot of people do not have CISSP and they are earning a lot. So I believe that CISSP is overkill for someone looking for entry level information security role.


Ok.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Mimzyy(f): 9:07pm On Nov 11, 2021
Why didn’t anyone warn me that there is no stroller access at the Nigerian embassy cry cry. Omo we carried our stroller over the stairs o grin with the assistance of the guy at the entry point sha. We spent roughly two hours and there were loads of people but the members of staff worked really fast. Bittersweet experience but I’m glad it’s over and done with. smiley

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 9:13pm On Nov 11, 2021
Mimzyy:
Why didn’t anyone warn me that there is no stroller access at the Nigerian embassy cry cry. Omo we carried our stroller over the stairs o grin with the assistance of the guy at the entry point sha. We spent roughly two hours and there were loads of people but the members of staff worked really fast. Bittersweet experience but I’m glad it’s over and done with. smiley


Point to me a Nigerian government building with buggy/wheelchair access............ grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Mimzyy(f): 9:25pm On Nov 11, 2021
Mind blowing to say the least cry
Lexusgs430:



Point to me a Nigerian government building with buggy/wheelchair access............ grin

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 9:40pm On Nov 11, 2021
Mimzyy:
Mind blowing to say the least cry


Ok, point me one thing in Nigeria, that is not mind blowing.........

The system is deliberately rigged not to function for the majority..........

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Stereotypes: 10:19pm On Nov 11, 2021
Lexusgs430:


You never experience a real negative balance, until you sell ..........

What goes down, would surely climb up ......... Copy more people with diversified portfolios..........

Red, is actually a time to buy .......... cheesy
$OTLY is now blinking red, so I just snatched some oats ........... cheesy

Haaa! 14:30 tomorrow I will go and swallow some oats too.
I don taya for the hammering. Thank you o!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Mellady(f): 10:32pm On Nov 11, 2021
Jestee:
Good afternoon Distinguished,

Please anyone here living in Manchester, Oldham to be precised?
I need help with renting a property from Nigeria as all the agents I've contacted said they is no online viewing available.

Or can someone please advice on how i can go about securing an accommodation from Nigeria?

I live in Manchester in the city centre near Manchester Victoria Station. I can rent out a room to you but just for short term maybe a couple of months untill you can stand on your feet to look for a house. Send me an email if that sound OK by you.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 7:47am On Nov 12, 2021
OSCARTM:


Ease of getting jobs - There is shortage of these skills, for example, set up a job notification on LinkedIn with some of the certifications I mentioned earlier, try locations like (Nigeria, Canada, UK and US), you will be shocked as to the amount of job notifications which you will receive daily. The shortage is hitting Nigeria and UK more, due to Canada migration and Brexit respectively.
Search and network with those who have these skills on LinkedIn, their frequent posts & conversations will enlighten you more.

Positioning for Big4 jobs - It requires a lot of hard work and constant research, you need to realize that the career switch will not be a "walk in the park". Considering that you do not have prior experience, you need to start with earning the certifications which gives you a background knowledge about the career you intend to switch to. For example, I will recommend CISSP or CISM exams for entry into information security.

After passing one or more certifications, include them in your CV and start applying for related roles. You might need to modify your CV to include the responsibilities set in the job advert (but ensure you have a fair knowledge of them). Big4 will give you the best of training/experience especially if you can get in at an associate level, however, there are loads of smaller consulting firms/companies that will give you the chance to "kick start" your career switch with little or no experience.


Getting certified in ISO courses - ISO certifications are usually sponsored by corporate organizations due to the cost(training facilitators will require a certain quorum in class), and it's mostly bundled with the company's certification projects (usually a 3yr cycle). In Nigeria, you can check PECB accredited centres and other training institutes like Rhythex Consulting at Ilupeju, A.J Silicon at Alausa Ikeja.
In my opinion, getting ISO certification is not a good entry point, I believe the scope is limited.

In the end, your determination to succeed matters a lot. A friend of mine who has a social science degree is doing well in an IT security risk/compliance role in a Global Bank in the U.K.

Cheers.

Thanks a lot! May God make your days long!

I do have some experience in Cloud Computing & reasonable Identity and Access Management knowledge - hopefully that would count

For the smaller consulting firms, is there any where i can look them up or a Google search would suffice for a list?

Bookmarked for future reference
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 7:48am On Nov 12, 2021
Lexusgs430:


You never experience a real negative balance, until you sell ..........

What goes down, would surely climb up ......... Copy more people with diversified portfolios..........

Red, is actually a time to buy .......... cheesy
$OTLY is now blinking red, so I just snatched some oats ........... cheesy

Lexus, when una go show us some crpt way make we sef see road small and maybe change name to Benz grin ?

cry

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 7:52am On Nov 12, 2021
dupyshoo:
There is no guarantee that it will get you an information security job. I have sat on interview panels which candidates with CISSP did not pass and people without made it.
You need to answer the questions in interview before passing.

In fact, because CISSP is so wide, you might not remember most of the things in the book after passing. Have you attended any interview and they are asking for bell la biba or la padula? The fact that you have CISSP will raise the expectation of the interviewers that if you don't meet up, you will likely not be taken.

A lot of people do not have CISSP and they are earning a lot. So I believe that CISSP is overkill for someone looking for entry level information security role.


This is true

So, if I have the CISSP , am I not allowed to use it at all until the required experience levels are met? Or I can still include it in my CV

smiley
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 9:06am On Nov 12, 2021
hustla:


Lexus, when una go show us some crpt way make we sef see road small and maybe change name to Benz grin ?

cry


My crypto (assuming this is what you meant), is a gamble....... I jump on pumps and dumps, then dumps eventually and buy low priced coins, in anticipation of future appreciation (don't quote my strategy, it's simple a gamble).......... grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Mashaunola: 12:32pm On Nov 12, 2021
Please help me it’s urgent!!!

Please which flight can I book that does not require a transit visa during layover. Please your kind response will be appreciated. [color=#000099][/color]
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Mashaunola: 12:32pm On Nov 12, 2021
Please help me it’s urgent!!!

Please which flight can I book that does not require a transit visa during layover. Please your kind response will be appreciated.
My destination is UK
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Aphrodite007(f): 12:52pm On Nov 12, 2021
contra:


I'm assuming this is for Audit.

Your brother need to work as a manager in Nigeria for 2 years before he can be considered for Manager in the UK.

It's traditional for big4 to downgrade your experience. Manager to AM and AM to Senior and so on. Depending on the big4 and your brother's performance and awareness, he will spend at least 2 years in position before he'll be promoted. If he's tired, he can switch to another big4 or one of the mid-tier firm - top10.

My advise
He should take the offer but with a higher salary. In london 50k, South 47k and North 40k is the range. Let him ensure he's getting the higheat level of AM if it's Deloitte or KPMG. Its better to spend 2 years here without promotion than stay in Nigeria just because they want to get manager before coming - just 1 advantage - you'll be way ahead in completing your 5years here with solid 2years UK experience in the bag. Most new managers from Nigeria struggle in audit, some are on year 3 and still no promotion to SM.

Again, you said your brother will be a manager in few months, you mean July or October next year. That's when big4 in Nigeria promote. That's at least 7 months plus 2 years before coming to UK as a manager. Is this your brother's promotion guaranteed? No!

This is the usual standard.

NB - i've advised based on the available information you provided. I can give him a more personalised advice if he sends me a message for free just this time.

I have a few big4 friends, they complain/say everything you’ve just said lol. I totally endorse this as true.

Also nothing wrong with coming here as less/smaller, if they are truly worth the position, they will get there in no time and even surpass.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Aphrodite007(f): 1:13pm On Nov 12, 2021
Mashaunola:
Please help me it’s urgent!!!

Please which flight can I book that does not require a transit visa during layover. Please your kind response will be appreciated.

A flight to your destination
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by wonlasewonimi: 1:31pm On Nov 12, 2021
hustla:


This is true

So, if I have the CISSP , am I not allowed to use it at all until the required experience levels are met? Or I can still include it in my CV

smiley

When I got CISSP, I was able to waive one year off because I had Security+ earlier. Learning CISSP will take it's toll on you but doable!. To your question, if you pass the exam before you have the requisite experience, you are allowed to use Associate of ISC2 but not the full CISSP designation.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Mashaunola: 1:32pm On Nov 12, 2021
Aphrodite007:


A flight to your destination
My destination is UK Birmingham
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by beryour(m): 3:18pm On Nov 12, 2021
Turkish airline to Birmingham.

British Airways to London then Train to Birmingham

Kanoko to your exact destination.

Choose your choice from the above

Mashaunola:

My destination is UK Birmingham

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