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Image123:
Thought it was common to say something is right in front of your nose.

You wrote

Image123:
He's right in your nose

not "in front of your nose".

LordReed:
Like I said don't care how you frame it, you are free to believe whatever, just let people live their life.

Sin is very sweet that why it leads to death imagine what will happen if all of us start to do as we want their would be chaos

Time will then come when if you ask any one why they do what they do they will tell you I do it to be happy

Even rapist will use that to justify their acts

Bishopkingsley:
Sin is very sweet that why it leads to death imagine what will happen if all of us start to do as we want their would be chaos

Time will then come when if you ask any one why they do what they do they will tell you I do it to be happy

Even rapist will use that to justify their acts

There is a difference between forcing someone to have sex and 2 adults having consensual sex. You don't have to be a god to understand that simple fact.

LordReed:
You wrote not "in front of your nose".

You should have known if you were familiar with the idiom. The point though should be taken by you instead of this cultural dance. Psalms 19v1 to 3.

Image123:
You should have known if you were familiar with the idiom. The point though should be taken by you instead of this cultural dance. Psalms 19v1 to 3.

You should have simply said you omitted a word, nobody will kill you if you acknowledge your mistakes.

LordReed:
There is a difference between forcing someone to have sex and 2 adults having consensual sex. You don't have to be a god to understand that simple fact.

One thing about perverted sex is that it doesn't stop there with consensual it goes beyond it it just a question of time it becomes forced sex

Because sin leads to desiring taboo sex so the consensual won't be satisfying any more

The sinner will want something forced and perverted

Sin does not stop at the initial stages it seeks for more

So it just a matter of time people will desire to sleep with their dogs and others will say hey leave them alone they are not hurting anyone

Etc it continues to spread and spread sin is never satisfied

Bishopkingsley:
One thing about perverted sex is that it doesn't stop there with consensual it goes beyond it it just a question of time it becomes forced sex

Because sin leads to desiring taboo sex so the consensual won't be satisfying any more

The sinner will want something forced and perverted

Sin does not stop at the initial stages it seeks for more

So it just a matter of time people will desire to sleep with their dogs and others will say hey leave them alone they are not hurting anyone

Etc it continues to spread and spread sin is never satisfied

LMFAO! Is that what they teach you in bible school? Abeg leave all this fearmongering and allow people. If you don't understand why people have same sex attraction I suggest you read up on it instead of all this nonsense speculation you listen to.

LordReed:
LMFAO! Is that what they teach you in bible school? Abeg leave all this fearmongering and allow people. If you don't understand why people have same sex attraction I suggest you read up on it instead of all this nonsense speculation you listen to.

The way you back this thing up it looks like you are a gay

Is that it

Bishopkingsley:
The way you back this thing up it looks like you are a gay

Is that it

Do they also teach you that in Bible school, that the only people who think gay people should live their lives free of all these bigoted attitudes like yours are gay themselves? LoLz. And you'll come and try to feel more special than a Muslim. LMAO!

LordReed:
Only if they're considering bad ideas which I have always said I am against not religion. Practice your religion but leave out bad ideas.

What if the religion is built on bad ideas? Once you're against such ideas, then you're against religion.

Isn't it?

A001:
What if the religion is built on bad ideas? Once you're against such ideas, then you're against religion.

Isn't it?

Example?

LordReed:
Example?

I would focus on the two popular Abrahamic religions here, Christianity and Muslim, because these are the ones I mainly have issues with.

The foundation of these two religions was built on lies, distorted historical and scientific facts, pure superstition, existence of paradise and hell, and aversion toward research and skepticism.

For instance, Christianity requires adherents to believe in Jesus Christ, which hasn't been proven to exist, as their saviour.

It's irrational for any sane person to believe in something without solid evidence. But then, Christians must believe in and have (blind) faith in Jesus and are not allowed to question this creed.

If someone introduces something to you, discourages you not to scrutinize it, and threatens you that if you question it, a misfortune will befall to you, then it's obvious that person is hiding some key information about that thing from you.

This is the modus operandi of Christian theologians, right from their early days to modern times.

When atheists on and off Nairaland criticize Jesus for being a fictitious character (which is what he's in reality), their criticism is directed toward the very foundation of Christianity itself.

As a Christian or a Muslim, you can't freely question all aspects of either religion.

It's a very bad idea to prohibit people from questioning some things in a religion which they'd spend a substantial part of their lifetime practicing.

This idea (prohibition to ask some questions) lies at the core of Christianity and Islam.

Another core idea that's bad in both religions is the problem of destiny and the existence of hell.

If God creates all things, knows all things, can do all things, and has destined some people for hell-fire even before they were born, why then does he punish disbelievers for acting based on his instructions, which are coded in their DNA as decreed by God (using the logic of Christians and Muslims).

All these ideas are not just bad but look childishly ridiculous and highly unreasonable.

There are many other examples, especially in Islam (the five pillars of Islam and the six cardinals of faith). But let me stop here for now.

When you're against these key ideas, you're against that religion.

You can't say you're not against Christianity as a religion and still criticize core beliefs in the religion.

Without these core beliefs, there'd be nothing called Christianity. The same thing applies to Islam as well.

LordReed:
You should have simply said you omitted a word, nobody will kill you if you acknowledge your mistakes.

You're trying to kill na, you should have understood it clearly but you preferred to tell jokes.

A001:
I would focus on the two popular Abrahamic religions here, Christianity and Muslim, because these are the ones I mainly have issues with.

The foundation of these two religions was built on lies, distorted historical and scientific facts, pure superstition, existence of paradise and hell, and aversion toward research and skepticism.

For instance, Christianity requires adherents to believe in Jesus Christ, which hasn't been proven to exist, as their saviour.

It's irrational for any sane person to believe in something without solid evidence. But then, Christians must believe in and have (blind) faith in Jesus and are not allowed to question this creed.

If someone introduces something to you, discourages you not to scrutinize it, and threatens you that if you question it, a misfortune will befall to you, then it's obvious that person is hiding some key information about that thing from you.

This is the modus operandi of Christian theologians, right from their early days to modern times.

When atheists on and off Nairaland criticize Jesus for being a fictitious character (which is what he's in reality), their criticism is directed toward the very foundation of Christianity itself.

As a Christian or a Muslim, you can't freely question all aspects of either religion.

It's a very bad idea to prohibit people from questioning some things in a religion which they'd spend a substantial part of their lifetime practicing.

This idea (prohibition to ask some questions) lies at the core of Christianity and Islam.

Another core idea that's bad in both religions is the problem of destiny and the existence of hell.

If God creates all things, knows all things, can do all things, and has destined some people for hell-fire even before they were born, why then does he punish disbelievers for acting based on his instructions, which are coded in their DNA as decreed by God (using the logic of Christians and Muslims).

All these ideas are not just bad but look childishly ridiculous and highly unreasonable.

There are many other examples, especially in Islam (the five pillars of Islam and the six cardinals of faith). But let me stop here for now.

When you're against these key ideas, you're against that religion.

You can't say you're not against Christianity as a religion and still criticize core beliefs in the religion.

Without these core beliefs, there'd be nothing called Christianity. The same thing applies to Islam as well.

I agree with you on most of what you said but there are some ways we disagree.

First I don't think Jesus is a fictional character however I do think accounts of him are fictionalized.

Secondly I think that the practice of religion is different from the beliefs of religion. For instance there are atheists who practice Christianity and there are those who practice paganism. It might seem like a contradiction but only if you are unable to see the difference between practice and belief.

The second is the primary reason why I can be against the bad ideas of religion and not be against the practice of religion.

Image123:
You're trying to kill na, you should have understood it clearly but you preferred to tell jokes.

Trying to kill over the internet? LMFAO! Of course I would make jokes, what you wrote was funny.

LordReed:
I agree with you on most of what you said but there are some ways we disagree.

First I don't think Jesus is a fictional character however I do think accounts of him are fictionalized.

Please, clarify what you mean here.

LordReed:
Secondly I think that the practice of religion is different from the beliefs of religion. For instance there are atheists who practice Christianity and there are those who practice paganism. It might seem like a contradiction but only if you are unable to see the difference between practice and belief.

The second is the primary reason why I can be against the bad ideas of religion and not be against the practice of religion.

That's understandable.

LordReed:
Trying to kill over the internet? LMFAO! Of course I would make jokes, what you wrote was funny.

Trying to What i wrote was factual, God is omnipresent.

A001:
Please, clarify what you mean here.

It is like how legends build up around people who were real but due to the influence on their community take on a larger than life persona. Jesus was one of a number of apocalyptic preachers of his day, he was not unique as an itinerant preacher. What may have set him apart was his teachings which was focused on a proclamation of the unseen kingdom of Yahweh unlike the others who were proclaiming that god would literally come and uproot the Romans. That could have been what triggered his differentiation and eventual legendary status.

Image123:
Trying to What i wrote was factual, God is omnipresent.

How can we establish it as a fact that your god is omnipresent? Can he tell you the number of items on my table right now? Or how can we show that there is indeed an omnipresent god?

A001:
I would focus on the two popular Abrahamic religions here, Christianity and Muslim, because these are the ones I mainly have issues with.

The foundation of these two religions was built on lies, distorted historical and scientific facts, pure superstition, existence of paradise and hell, and aversion toward research and skepticism.

For instance, Christianity requires adherents to believe in Jesus Christ, which hasn't been proven to exist, as their saviour.

It's irrational for any sane person to believe in something without solid evidence. But then, Christians must believe in and have (blind) faith in Jesus and are not allowed to question this creed.

If someone introduces something to you, discourages you not to scrutinize it, and threatens you that if you question it, a misfortune will befall to you, then it's obvious that person is hiding some key information about that thing from you.

This is the modus operandi of Christian theologians, right from their early days to modern times.

When atheists on and off Nairaland criticize Jesus for being a fictitious character (which is what he's in reality), their criticism is directed toward the very foundation of Christianity itself.

As a Christian or a Muslim, you can't freely question all aspects of either religion.

It's a very bad idea to prohibit people from questioning some things in a religion which they'd spend a substantial part of their lifetime practicing.

This idea (prohibition to ask some questions) lies at the core of Christianity and Islam.

Another core idea that's bad in both religions is the problem of destiny and the existence of hell.

If God creates all things, knows all things, can do all things, and has destined some people for hell-fire even before they were born, why then does he punish disbelievers for acting based on his instructions, which are coded in their DNA as decreed by God (using the logic of Christians and Muslims).

All these ideas are not just bad but look childishly ridiculous and highly unreasonable.

There are many other examples, especially in Islam (the five pillars of Islam and the six cardinals of faith). But let me stop here for now.

When you're against these key ideas, you're against that religion.

You can't say you're not against Christianity as a religion and still criticize core beliefs in the religion.

Without these core beliefs, there'd be nothing called Christianity. The same thing applies to Islam as well.

A lot of folly in here. i guess you have proven that Aristotle and Socrates existed too, i guessed wrong, you can't.
It is a bare faced lie to claim that you don't ask questions in Christianity. i have asked all sorts of questions as a Christian and i am still a child of God. This is of course different from asking foolish and silly questions, which is not permitted in any serious setting whether secular or otherwise.

LordReed:
How can we establish it as a fact that your god is omnipresent? Can he tell you the number of items on my table right now? Or how can we show that there is indeed an omnipresent god?

It will be established on judgment day na, you like that? God doesn't need to prove anything to you, open your eyes and see. Psalms 19 says.

LordReed:
It is like how legends build up around people who were real but due to the influence on their community take on a larger than life persona. Jesus was one of a number of apocalyptic preachers of his day, he was not unique as an itinerant preacher. What may have set him apart was his teachings which was focused on a proclamation of the unseen kingdom of Yahweh unlike the others who were proclaiming that god would literally come and uproot the Romans. That could have been what triggered his differentiation and eventual legendary status.

Jesus Christ died and rose again, that's the simple difference. Not all these grammar.

LordReed:
It is like how legends build up around people who were real but due to the influence on their community take on a larger than life persona. Jesus was one of a number of apocalyptic preachers of his day, he was not unique as an itinerant preacher. What may have set him apart was his teachings which was focused on a proclamation of the unseen kingdom of Yahweh unlike the others who were proclaiming that god would literally come and uproot the Romans. That could have been what triggered his differentiation and eventual legendary status.

Okay.

I've not seen any evidence to show Jesus Christ was a real person.

Based on my research over the years, my findings show that Yeshua was the real person that existed and was a black man (homo erectus or giant) from ancient Africa, and his history was distorted and twisted by the whites to invent Jesus Christ as a fictitious character.

That's my own position.

It's all for politics and to control the sheep

LordReed:
Do they also teach you that in Bible school, that the only people who think gay people should live their lives free of all these bigoted attitudes like yours are gay themselves? LoLz. And you'll come and try to feel more special than a Muslim. LMAO!

I have told you am not a bigot

I believe in universal law of love

Live and let live

I told you you are free to do whatever you want but every one must account for their actions when Jesus comes

Now taboo act are addictive and it leads to death that is what I said so I have not stopped you or anyone from engaging in the things they want to do and I will not be a part of those who want to bring things that hinder freewill

True Christianity is a way of life we are not Muslims

LordReed:
How can we establish it as a fact that your god is omnipresent? Can he tell you the number of items on my table right now? Or how can we show that there is indeed an omnipresent god?

Simple way to show his everywhere is to disobey the laws of gravity that he put in place then you will see the result

Image123:
Jesus Christ died and rose again, that's the simple difference. Not all these grammar.

No evidence of that.

Bishopkingsley:
Simple way to show his everywhere is to disobey the laws of gravity that he put in place then you will see the result

How would I go about disobeying the law of gravity?

Bishopkingsley:
I have told you am not a bigot

I believe in universal law of love

Live and let live

I told you you are free to do whatever you want but every one must account for their actions when Jesus comes

Now taboo act are addictive and it leads to death that is what I said so I have not stopped you or anyone from engaging in the things they want to do and I will not be a part of those who want to bring things that hinder freewill

True Christianity is a way of life we are not Muslims

You are a bigot, anybody who considers LGBTQ people to be some kind of disease that spreads is a bigot. In that you are no different from Muslims who feel the same way.

LordReed:
How would I go about disobeying the law of gravity?

Simple climb up to a top building and jump down

Or jump down from a top place and see what will happen to you for disobeying the laws of gravity God put in place

LordReed:
You are a bigot, anybody who considers LGBTQ people to be some kind of disease that spreads is a bigot. In that you are no different from Muslims who feel the same way.

Show me one statement that I said that shows am a bigot

Even me I will give an account of the way I spent my body my members on earth

So I did not exclude myself or did I say it only gays I merely said every one

Am no bigot

You just have to be truthful

LordReed:
No evidence of that.

He saved me, it's enough evidence for me.
For your understanding though, there were witnesses over 500 who affirmed that He rose again.

Image123:
He saved me, it's enough evidence for me.
For your understanding though, there were witnesses over 500 who affirmed that He rose again.

No evidence of that either.