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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 3:52pm On Nov 25, 2021
raumdeuter:

You can stumble on a top position but you would be found out to be a fraud and later get fired like Pirlo Lampard and Ole

Top clubs are all scampering for Peps signature. Bayern was begging him with an extension which he refused, If Pep says he is available today all club coaches jobs become at risk. That is because people more knowledgeable than you know his value in football

Bayern sacked Ancelotti and went to Pep for his opinion on the next coach where he recommended Tuchel

How does that make the bald one special?

Other coaches get offer too.


Since you're his advocate, tell him to at least win a Champions league with another team other than Barcelona.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 3:52pm On Nov 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


Pep won a sextuple in his first season as a first team coach, A sextuple means he won every trophy he competed in

The team Pep inherited was the 16th oldest in a 20 team league when they left City what became of the career of these stars like Sagna, Zabaleta, Clichy Fernando Joe Hart Toure, Kompany All these young virile players at their peak, I will expect top clubs to be jostling for their signature

What about D'Bruyne, Aguero , Silver, Kompany and the rest... Were/are these players also useless...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 3:56pm On Nov 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


How come club owners are not rushing to appoint Pellegrini rather its Pep they are giving their money?


Kaleb does not see it but club owners are trusting their clubs to Pep and giving him their money to build the team not Enrique not Pellegrini

Which clubs... Bayern got him thinking a champions league was finally theirs...The bald one saw he couldn't deliver and had to run away to City, a new money team with recent success and after spending a billion...He hasn't given them what he should have given them to justify his spending..
After City(If he fails to win,he's career is finished and he knows that. Pep's literally fighting for his Legacy here) grin grin

Back to Bayern, the club has a Champions league trophy which eluded them under the bald one...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:57pm On Nov 25, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Apples and Oranges....If Klopp could spend a billion, trust me...He would deliver every trophy possible...But unfortunately he can't...
At least with Klopp, you know what you're getting, a proven manager that doesn't need to break the bank to deliver local trophies as opposed to the other that needs a billion but can't deliver a champions league without Messi...
Thank God Lewandoski finally has his Champions league trophy and a possible Balon d'or ....The bald one would have kept wasting him

Klopp cannot deliver under pressure. Else he would go to Bayern or Madrid r Barcelona and find out what playing in an environment where you have to win everytime and every trophy miss is a failure, where the press scrutinize every move you make

Klopp can pick any job he wants including those he can spend a billion but he will avoid them because those clubs wont allow you 4 seasons trophyless out of 6

Those are the type of challenges coaches like Pep and peak Mourinho used to put their heads into. They are not those who hide in small clubs where expectations are low, failures are excused

Klopp is just another Simeone in disguise
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:59pm On Nov 25, 2021
Karleb:

How does that make the bald one special?
Other coaches get offer too.
Since you're his advocate, tell him to at least win a Champions league with another team other than Barcelona.

Did Ferguson win the CL with another club aside Man Utd? So why should Pep. If they are listing CL winners he will raise his hand

Coaches get offers and get sacked not Pep. Clubs beg him, top clubs beg him. If he is available today, your club will sack whoever is their coach to get him

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 3:59pm On Nov 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


Pirlo got sacked, Lampard got sacked Ole got sacked, which top club is Pellegrini that got sacked by West Ham coaching. Pep has never been sacked in over a decade of coaching

He keeps on running that's why ..Let him fail to win the Champions league with City this Season, who knows, it might finally be the season he gets sacked but I wouldn't bet on it, Sheikh's an ever giving client and Pep is an ever working 419... grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:00pm On Nov 25, 2021
AnfieldFan:


What about D'Bruyne, Aguero , Silver, Kompany and the rest... Were/are these players also useless...

Kompany that was almost always injured, Kompany only featured prominently in 1 of Peps season and retired afterwards. DeBruyne Sterling and Silvas game were lifted to a different level with Pep
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:02pm On Nov 25, 2021
AnfieldFan:


He keeps on running that's why ..Let him fail to win the Champions league with City this Season, who knows, it might finally be the season he gets sacked but I wouldn't bet on it, Sheikh's an ever giving client and Pep is an ever working 419... grin grin

He has spent 5 seasons with City, is that running? He spent 4 seasons with Barcelona

Mention any other City coach in the last 20yrs that has spent more than 5 straight seasons
Mention any other Bayern coach in the last 20yrs that has spent more than 3 straight seasons
Mention any other Barcelona coach in the last 20yrs that has spent more than 4 straight seasons

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:03pm On Nov 25, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Which clubs... Bayern got him thinking a champions league was finally theirs...The bald one saw he couldn't deliver and had to run away to City, a new money team with recent success and after spending a billion...He hasn't given them what he should have given them to justify his spending..
After City(If he fails to win,he's career is finished and he knows that. Pep's literally fighting for his Legacy here) grin grin

Back to Bayern, the club has a Champions league trophy which eluded them under the bald one...

Yet all these clubs keep begging him with extensions. All these club owners keep begging him with contracts
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 4:11pm On Nov 25, 2021
AnfieldFan:


I can detect a lie already...He's been participating in the Champions league since he came to City but he hasn't won despite spending more than the budget of some states in Nigeria...

And as for most of the players he met being past their prime, oh please...Those players won the league just a few seasons before his arrival ...Pep met Aguero, David Silver, Fernadinho, Kompany,Toure, Sterling,Stones,Otamendi...
Miss me with that being old mantra(It's untrue)...He met a lot more stars but what did he do, binned them on the way to spending a billion + on an already deadly squad...

And it's not just an unfortunate Champions league stint with City like you're insinuating...It's also his disgraceful Champions league campaigns with Bayern...Hint hint...Bayern has won a champions league trophy since the got rid of him...
He's still here trying to bin more players on the way to spending another billion while underachieving like he's always done....

When did Bayern got rid of him and when did they win the ucl? 7 years since they last won it. C'mon... Every coach has had a taste of disgrace from the ucl since they last won it except Thomas Tuchel and that is because it's recent.


Now, lets talk about the names in bold... Can you tell me any one still playing top flight aside from Sterlin and KDB? This goes on to tell you that none of those players fitted his plans. And the ones that remained attained unimaginable brilliance than they ever had before under his tutelage that saw them become the best of the best.

That said, the transfer market isn't the same as it used to be as teams are using every avenue they have to sell their players at desperate cut-throat prices. As aforesaid, if it were to be these times that the previous coaches in the likes of Maccini, Pellegerini and co bought the players they won with, they definitely would have cost 2/3x more than the regular price they had then.

Pep has set a standard so I can u understand why you think his unlucky stint to win the ucl since leaving Barcelona is not justifiable. Don't worry. He'll win more than Klopp and Ferguson ever dream of.

Shalom.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:11pm On Nov 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


Klopp cannot deliver under pressure. Else he would go to Bayern or Madrid r Barcelona and find out what playing in an environment where you have to win everytime and every trophy miss is a failure, where the press scrutinize every move you make

Klopp can pick any job he wants including those he can spend a billion but he will avoid them because those clubs wont allow you 4 seasons trophyless out of 6

Those are the type of challenges coaches like Pep and peak Mourinho used to put their heads into. They are not those who hide in small clubs where expectations are low, failures are excused

Klopp is just another Simeone in disguise

Klopp won with Liverpool under the intense pressure of not having won a league title in decades..What did he do, he delivered without spending a billion...
Conte delivered the Seria A to Intee and he didn't need to spend a billion..He's taken up the challenging offer of Tottenham..
Mou has gone to Roma despite the fact Madrid wanted him... Coaches who want to challenge themselves ..
But Pep will never, he prefers to spend a billion even when he's at the best clubs in whatever league he finds himself...Can only be the bald one..
Referring to Liverpool as a Small club would only make sense if it came from a Madrid fan, seeing as Bayern isn't more successful in Europe ..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 4:11pm On Nov 25, 2021
EXCLUSIVE: Man Utd reach agreement with Ralf Rangnick to become interim manager. 6mnth contract then 2yr consultancy. Deal subject to Lokomotiv Moscow approval. Work permit process prevents 63yo leading Manchester United vs Chelsea.

- David Ornstein

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:15pm On Nov 25, 2021
FirstbornWds:


When did Bayern got rid of him and when did they win the ucl? 7 years since they last won it. C'mon... Every coach has had a taste of disgrace from the ucl since they last won it except Thomas Tuchel and that is because it's recent.


Now, lets talk about the names in bold... Can you tell me any one still playing top flight aside from Sterlin and KDB? This goes on to tell you that none of those players fitted his plans. The transfer market isn't the same as it used to be as teams are using every avenue they have to sell their players at desperate cut-throat prices. As aforesaid, if it were to be these times that the previous coaches in the likes of Maccini, Pellegerini and co bought the players they won with, they definitely would have cost 2/3x more than the regular price they had then.

Pep has set a standard so I can u understand why you think his unlucky stint to win the ucl since leaving Barcelona is not justifiable. Don't worry. He'll win more than Klopp and Ferguson ever dream of.

Shalom.

Asking me which players are still playing top flight doesn't make sense ..He won with the aid of those players so you can't be asking which ones are active and whatnot...

Bayern got rid of him and won the Champions league .. Something the bald one couldn't deliver to them..Abi na by winning Bayernliga..
Pep met top players, binned top players, spent more than a billion but still can't deliver the Champions league....
I'm not making this up, it is what it is....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:16pm On Nov 25, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Klopp won with Liverpool under the intense pressure of not having won a league title in decades..What did he do, he delivered without spending a billion...
Conte delivered the Seria A to Intee and he didn't need to spend a billion..He's taken up the challenging offer of Tottenham..
Mou has gone to Roma despite the fact Madrid wanted him... Coaches who want to challenge themselves ..
But Pep will never, he prefers to spend a billion even when he's at the best clubs in whatever league he finds himself...Can only be the bald one..
Referring to Liverpool as a Small club would only make sense if it came from a Madrid fan, seeing as Bayern isn't more successful in Europe ..

What pressure was at Liverpool, the club where someone can go 4 seasons without a trophy and still have a job. Is that one pressure? Try Bayern Madrid or Barcelona pressure where coaches who win still get sacked

We are talking about top clubs you are talking about Inter Roma Spurs. How many coaches at the peak of their careers go to such clubs

Pre Klopp Liverpool was a club that was barely making CL, So they are small

Kloppis like a so called big boy who is scared of dating Temi Otedola but will rather pick up girls from motherless homes who will worship him for spending N100 on them grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:17pm On Nov 25, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Asking me which players are still playing top flight doesn't make sense ..He won with the aid of those players so you can't be asking which ones are active and whatnot...

Bayern got rid of him and won the Champions league .. Something the bald one couldn't deliver to them..Abi na by winning Bayernliga..
Pep met top players, binned top players, spent more than a billion but still can't deliver the Champions league....
I'm not making this up, it is what it is....

False Actually Bayern begged him with a trophy and he rejected. So he technically got rid of Bayern

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 4:18pm On Nov 25, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Klopp won with Liverpool under the intense pressure of not having won a league title in decades..What did he do, he delivered without spending a billion...
Conte delivered the Seria A to Intee and he didn't need to spend a billion..He's taken up the challenging offer of Tottenham..
Mou has gone to Roma despite the fact Madrid wanted him... Coaches who want to challenge themselves ..
But Pep will never, he prefers to spend a billion even when he's at the best clubs in whatever league he finds himself...Can only be the bald one..
Referring to Liverpool as a Small club would only make sense if it came from a Madrid fan, seeing as Bayern isn't more successful in Europe ..

Mourinho knows he doesn't stand a chance at managing Madrid. The fact that he went back to his vomit once and got kicked out again, must have thought him a harsh lesson. Going back to Madrid under another ruthless Perez would just mean him continuing to languish in the pecking order of elite coaches.

Conte is good for domestic trophies and that is already a fact even if you like to give him 100 billion to buy players with.

Oga, if Klopp needs money to further give his team more grith and depth, he should simply ask, rather than you, a fan, channeling your anger at the most decorated coach of the 21st century. Klopp went for seasons without trophies and still had a job. Pep can't and will never do that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 4:21pm On Nov 25, 2021
Oasis007:
EXCLUSIVE: Man Utd reach agreement with Ralf Rangnick to become interim manager. 6mnth contract then 2yr consultancy. Deal subject to Lokomotiv Moscow approval. Work permit process prevents 63yo leading Manchester United vs Chelsea.

- David Ornstein
Hmmmmm
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 4:21pm On Nov 25, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Asking me which players are still playing top flight doesn't make sense ..He won with the aid of those players so you can't be asking which ones are active and whatnot...

Bayern got rid of him and won the Champions league .. Something the bald one couldn't deliver to them..Abi na by winning Bayernliga..
Pep met top players, binned top players, spent more than a billion but still can't deliver the Champions league....
I'm not making this up, it is what it is....

Let me correct you for one more time


Pep met players, sold off irrelevant big names, benched the others for those that fitted into plans and the previous that were really good enough, he made lethal weapons that they are now.

Any other agenda?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 4:24pm On Nov 25, 2021
Please you guy should talk about Pep in Barca thread.

What's all these na

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:25pm On Nov 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


What pressure was at Liverpool, the club where someone can go 4 seasons without a trophy and still have a job. Is that one pressure? Try Bayern Madrid or Barcelona pressure where coaches who win still get sacked

We are talking about top clubs you are talking about Inter Roma Spurs. How many coaches at the peak of their careers go to such clubs

Pre Klopp Liverpool was a club that was barely making CL, So they are small

Kloppis like a so called big boy who is scared of dating Temi Otedola but will rather pick up girls from motherless homes who will worship him for spending N100 on them grin grin grin

This is stupid... Liverpool had 18 premier league titles and 5x Champions league trophies...In what universe is that small?? grin
Na the bald one matter d make you yarn nonsense like this so...

The pressure of his career being decided on succeeding with Liverpool... Knowing that if he failed to win a trophy, his previous achievements with Mainz and Dortmund would be invalidated...
The pressure of coming to a club that had spent decades without lifting the league...

As for Inter and Roma and Tottenham... If these coaches fail/failed, you would still troll them with it...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:27pm On Nov 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


False Actually Bayern begged him with a trophy and he rejected. So he technically got rid of Bayern

Thanks... Bayern wanted to be unfortunate but he ran...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 4:30pm On Nov 25, 2021
Rangnick it is. fingers crossed it works out.

Hope he brought some coaches with him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:31pm On Nov 25, 2021
AnfieldFan:


This is stupid... Liverpool had 28 premier league titles and 5x Champions league trophies...In what universe is that small?? grin
Na the bald one matter d make you yarn nonsense like this so...

The pressure of his career being decided on succeeding with Liverpool... Knowing that if he failed to win a trophy, his previous achievements with Mainz and Dortmund would be invalidated...
The pressure of coming to a club that had spent decades without lifting the league...

As for Inter and Roma and Tottenham... If these coaches fail/failed, you would still troll them with it...

Liverpool won all those 28 titles pre Premier league days. It's like claiming Nottingham Forest is a big club because they won several titles in the 70s and 80s

Which pressure? Going his first 3 seasons without a trophy while retaining the job is that pressure?

That is a small club mentality. No big club will allow a coach to stay 3 seasons without a trophy.

No big coach worth his salt will see Madrid Barca Bayern and go for Spurs Everton Inter and Roma. It's only when a coach is in the downward spiral that he takes that type of jobs claiming its because of challenge. That was the same way they claimed Ancelotti went to Everton for challenge yet the first call from Madrid he abandoned them
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:31pm On Nov 25, 2021
FirstbornWds:


Mourinho knows he doesn't stand a chance at managing Madrid. The fact that he went back to his vomit once and got kicked out again, must have thought him a harsh lesson. Going back to Madrid under another ruthless Perez would just mean him continuing to languish in the pecking order of elite coaches.

Conte is good for domestic trophies and that is already a fact even if you like to give him 100 billion to buy players with.

Oga, if Klopp needs money to further give his team more grith and depth, he should simply ask, rather than you, a fan, channeling your anger at the most decorated coach of the 21st century. Klopp went for seasons without trophies and still had a job. Pep can't and will never do that.

Na this thing the cause wahala grin grin grin...Pep is good in what Kwan... European trophies...

It's not about asking, that kind of financing is simply unavailable...Klopp went for seasons coaching Mainz, Dortmund, a Liverpool that hadn't won a league title in decades... Comparing his situation to someone that managed Bayern,Barca and City...Clubs that were winning trophies before he came and are still winning after he left is embarrassing...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:32pm On Nov 25, 2021
FirstbornWds:


Let me correct you for one more time


Pep met players, sold off irrelevant big names, benched the others for those that fitted into plans and the previous that were really good enough, he made lethal weapons that they are now.

Any other agenda?
Okay, you now agree he met players, won with them and binned some all while spending a billion....
Good, seems you now see the light... grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 4:34pm On Nov 25, 2021
On day off but believe Rangnick flew into Manchester at start of week. Rejected initial contract offer from Manchester United but received new terms and has accepted them. PSG playing hardball over Pochettino so United have stuck with interim choice.

- Samuel Luckhurst

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 4:36pm On Nov 25, 2021
"You’re kind of born to be a coach. Even at the age of six I wanted to show others how they could improve."

Ralf Rangnick is known as the godfather of German coaching. He's now the manager of Manchester United

- Laurie Whitwell - The Athletic UK
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nihilistjnr: 4:36pm On Nov 25, 2021
Oasis007:
On day off but believe Rangnick flew into Manchester at start of week. Rejected initial contract offer from Manchester United but received new terms and has accepted them. PSG playing hardball over Pochettino so United have stuck with interim choice.

- Samuel Luckhurst

Terrorist football cheesy

German Tony Pulis grin grin

We dey here

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 4:37pm On Nov 25, 2021
This could be the start of a proper football structure being in place at Old Trafford.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:37pm On Nov 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


Liverpool won all those 28 titles pre Premier league days. It's like claiming Nottingham Forest is a big club because they won several titles in the 70s and 80s

Which pressure? Going his first 3 seasons without a trophy while retaining the job is that pressure?

That is a small club mentality. No big club will allow a coach to stay 3 seasons without a trophy.


I made a typo, Liverpool had 18 league titles...We just added one more..If England decides to change the league name once more 100 years from now, it won't invalidate it...
He was brought to rebuild and win...He did just that..
Chelsea, a club notorious for changing managers faster than you can blink let Lampard manage a whole season...You wanna know why, they understood the task...

Pep on the other hand has gone a decade despite spending more than a billion without lifting a champions league trophy...What do we call that...

Hint..
It starts with an F and ends with a d..
It
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 4:37pm On Nov 25, 2021
Manchester United are in advanced talks with Ralf Rangnick as interim manager, as revealed by David Ornstein and Laurie Whitwell earlier today.

Deal not finalized yet - talks ongoing with Lokomotiv Moscow. Rangnick and Man Utd want to be respectful as he’s under contract.

- Fabrizio Romano

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dammywapes(m): 4:39pm On Nov 25, 2021
Here we go wink

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