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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 10:53pm On Dec 12, 2021
MRTA7:
Bruno and McFred is not a lineup that can play a possession game against a decent team
Hold up! We didn't hear this under Ole.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:56pm On Dec 12, 2021
Massive overeaction
Most of our attackers are playing in a new position, they need to adapt and understand themselves, Bruno isnt playing throught the middle, rashford is a second striker no the right winger as per default, Sancho a wide number 10.
Our defence has levelled up, let the attackers adapt.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:52am On Dec 13, 2021
LostMyZeal:
How are we supposed to play possession game with your beloved lame fred in midfield

What sort of magic is that
You didn't watch the match, that's fine. Maybe you were busy, or couldn't find where to watch it. But the stats against Norwich are still on the internet, please check them. Then come back and edit this
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2:
Bombblacks:
Hold up! We didn't hear this under Ole.
This is just a blatant lie. The last 2 years of this thread have been littered with posts complaining about how Fred and McTominay couldn’t pass the ball properly or dominate possession. We also heard about how Bruno was to careless and impatient with his passing thereby losing possession unnecessarily.
Ole was our manager all that time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 6:35am On Dec 13, 2021
eph12:
You didn't watch the match, that's fine. Maybe you were busy, or couldn't find where to watch it. But the stats against Norwich are still on the internet, please check them. Then come back and edit this
I watched the match and saw Fred's moves especially in the second half - he did good.


But the truth still remains: we can't play a possession game with McFred

We need new midfielders
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 7:09am On Dec 13, 2021
MRTA7:
Bruno and McFred is not a lineup that can play a possession game against a decent team
No flimsy and useless excuse will fly here. Now you have a tactical manager. Give him the same advice like you wrote below. You already told us the squad is good enough to challenge for major trophies cheesy cheesy cheesy

MRTA7:
All this player bashing is pointless and boring.

Ole is where most of the issues lie. Even the much maligned Fred that I have take plenty of shots at does not deserve the bashing.

Ultimately, Ole has not implemented a system that allows these players to function well as a team, which is why we struggle when we face well organised teams. The team is over reliant on individual brilliance. If match winners dont win you the game we have nothing.

We dont have a manager that will hide your weaknesses while enhancing your strengths. Only Ole seems to need world class players in every position to succeed.

That squad is good enough to seriously challenge for major trophies. No other manager in the league has a squad full of world class players but the best managers are making it work and hiding their weaknesses.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 7:11am On Dec 13, 2021
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2:
Lol. See receipt.

Oga TA over to you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 7:16am On Dec 13, 2021
Nawa oooo grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:30am On Dec 13, 2021
afrodoc2:
Lol. See receipt.

Oga Patrick over to you.
How e take concern me?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:47am On Dec 13, 2021
patrickmuf:
How e take concern me?
Sorry no vex. I meant Oga TA
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:55am On Dec 13, 2021
LostMyZeal:
I watched the match and saw Fred's moves especially in the second half - he did good.


But the truth still remains: we can't play a possession game with McFred

We need new midfielders
Yeah we need a new team, even a new club if you ask me.

Bruno, Rashford and co were the reason we weren't keeping hold of the ball, but it's always mcFred that's the scapegoat. This thing be like witchcraft
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:01am On Dec 13, 2021
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:03am On Dec 13, 2021
If you honestly believe this team can't play possession game against the Norwich of this world, then we shouldn't have sacked Ole.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 8:05am On Dec 13, 2021
If our defenders (Telles, Maguire,Lindelof and Dalot) can distribute passes better than our central midfielders (McFred) then we can't play possession football.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:15am On Dec 13, 2021
Expert17:
If our defenders (Telles, Maguire,Lindelof and Dalot) can distribute passes better than our central midfielders (McFred) then we can't play possession football.
Your first name here should be Bruno. How do you play possession football with the way Bruno likes to play?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:49am On Dec 13, 2021
afrodoc2:
Sorry no vex. I meant Oga TA
Okay...

Whether Rangnick fails or not, I don't think it vindicates Ole...

I will share my opinion on Rangnick after 10-15 games because I expect the players to be pumped up for his first 5 games or thereabout so, I won't read any meanings to it...

One area I want to see a change is in midfield, McFred against Norwich is a big NO for me, VDB has to play alongside one of the twins. We need to start dominating games. I watched Liverpool vs Villa and whilst they won by a line goal, they attacked up until the final whistle. Liverpool and City create a lot of chances because they are always on the front foot and attack in numbers...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:51am On Dec 13, 2021
Expert17 doesn't want to see any fault in Bruno, rather he blames Fred whilst eph12 on the other hand thinks Bruno is the reason we can't keep the ball...

The truth is in between but agenda must agend...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:56am On Dec 13, 2021
patrickmuf:
Expert17 doesn't want to see any fault in Bruno, rather he blames Fred whilst eph12 on the other hand thinks Bruno is the reason we can't keep the ball...

The truth is in between but agenda must agend...



Words on marble. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:05am On Dec 13, 2021
patrickmuf:
Expert17 doesn't want to see any fault in Bruno, rather he blames Fred whilst eph12 on the other hand thinks Bruno is the reason we can't keep the ball...

The truth is in between but agenda must agend...
How can you blame a player that had the highest attempted and successful passes for the team's inability to keep the ball? Why?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:11am On Dec 13, 2021
eph12:
How can you blame a player that had the highest attempted and successful passes for the team's inability to keep the ball? Why?
For a midfielder, keeping the ball is not just passing it when it gets to you, your ability to receive the ball, spin your marker and pass is key to breaking down the opposition...

Go and watch Busquets, Xavi, Alonso, Modric etc and you'd see how they help their team retain possession as well as initiate attacks by taking out 1 or 2 opposition players either through a quick turn, spin or raking long passes from deep...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:18am On Dec 13, 2021
eph12:
Your first name here should be Bruno. How do you play possession football with the way Bruno likes to play?
This is the EPL statistics showing the players that maintain possession for teams.

Where is McFred? Did you see any Supporting striker or Attacking midfielder in the image below??

So funny you are blaming our Creativity Plug for our inability to possess teams.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 9:18am On Dec 13, 2021
MRTA7:
Bruno and McFred is not a lineup that can play a possession game against a decent team
Why not? They can't play 5 yard passes?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 9:20am On Dec 13, 2021
Expert17:
This is the EPL statistics showing the players that maintain possession for teams.

Where is McFred? Did you see any Supporting striker or Attacking midfielder in the image below??

So funny you are blaming our Creativity Plug for our inability to possess teams.
How do you maintain possession if one of your midfielders is in the business of gifting the ball back to the opposition everytime? You think only two in the team has the business of maintaining possession?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:24am On Dec 13, 2021
melodyogonna:
How do you maintain possession if one of your midfielders is in the business of gifting the ball back to the opposition everytime? You think only two in the team has the business of maintaining possession?
Should we check the no of times Salah, Mane and other creative players lost possession to opponents?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 9:24am On Dec 13, 2021
eph12:
Yeah we need a new team, even a new club if you ask me.

Bruno, Rashford and co were the reason we weren't keeping hold of the ball, but it's always mcFred that's the scapegoat. This thing be like witchcraft
This. I no understand all the useless agenda. How do you keep possession if your teammates are hellbent on losing possession in the most foolish manner imaginable? Nawa sha
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 9:25am On Dec 13, 2021
Expert17:
Should we check the no of times Salah, Mane and other creative players lost possession to opponents?
Why u dey send me pictures chief?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:33am On Dec 13, 2021
melodyogonna:
Why u dey send me pictures chief?
It's simple stuff, creative players lose possession the most

When your CM can't even play through balls, Bruno still lead in EPL in this regard cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:34am On Dec 13, 2021
patrickmuf:
For a midfielder, keeping the ball is not just passing it when it gets to you, your ability to receive the ball, spin your marker and pass is key to breaking down the opposition...

Go and watch Busquets, Xavi, Alonso, Modric etc and you'd see how they help their team retain possession as well as initiate attacks by taking out 1 or 2 opposition players either through a quick turn, spin or raking long passes from deep...
Go and watch Silva, Iniesta, Messi etc and you will see that they help their team retain possession. Then come back, watch as Ronaldo, Rashford and Bruno against Norwich help their team lose possession so easily
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:35am On Dec 13, 2021
melodyogonna:
Why not? They can't play 5 yard passes?
We are talking about simple 5 yard passes o. Just give your nearest or next man, and move
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 9:36am On Dec 13, 2021
Expert17:
It's simple stuff, creative players lose possession the most

When your CM can't even play through balls, Bruno still lead in EPL in this regard cheesy
Losing possession is not the problem, losing possession like a fool is the problem. Bruno has to work on his decision-making. I'll keep saying it until he starts making more sensible decisions than stupid ones when picking a pass.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:41am On Dec 13, 2021
Expert17:
This is the EPL statistics showing the players that maintain possession for teams.

Where is McFred? Did you see any Supporting striker or Attacking midfielder in the image below??

So funny you are blaming our Creativity Plug for our inability to possess teams.
LMAO oya bring the one for your team. No I am blaming our Creativity Plug for our inability to possess NORWICH
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