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Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by dfrost: 5:24pm On Dec 13, 2021
lexy2014:
Ask your parents that gave birth to u if u are an achievement
Same thing I asked him cheesy
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Misterone: 5:27pm On Dec 13, 2021
Supreme145:
There is this motion that giving birth to children is an achievement in this country. I see young guys in mid and late twenties rushing into marriage while they are barely standing on their feet. From someone that comes from a family of 10 I'm sure if my dad is given a second chance he won't give birth as much children again. Let me share some of my experiences as regards giving birth without proper planning or sustainable income.

I've a neighbor in my compound, he's 32 and in his final year in the university, I can hardly have decent conversation with him without hearing about how he wants to get married. I would always remind him that he's living in a one room apartment, still a student without a strong source of income, but he would counter me saying that he can always start small and grow with his wife. Moreover when he gives birth he would have an investment.

I've have another friend that was a classmate in secondary school, he graduated the year I got admission though he had some issues with his results. One day he called me that he's married and I was surprised, though he is an artisan into all those parapets and pop stuffs I know he wasn't financially buoyant enough to carry a family. The last time I visited him he was looking malnourished and unable to sort out his issues in school almost four years after because according to him any money that he gets already has a pending issue waiting for it. He's looking far older than his elder brother who's still single, he looks 38 when he's just 30. He consoled himself by telling me that even if he doesn't have money he already has two kids which he sees an investment and a great achievement. Meanwhile they are cramped into a single room apartment and none of the kids are enrolled in school.

Last week while we were training in the evening, an argument broke out between two young guys. I was just by the side observing what was happening, I kept hearing stuffs like....why you dey argue with that guy? you no know say na person father he be? that guy don born two children o abi you think say e easy to born, na big achievement be that o. Now this is a guy that is about 25 years and has no sustainable means of income, he works in peoples farms and other menial jobs to make ends meet.

My next door married neighbor has become a torn in my flesh, he's always borrowing from me without paying so it's obvious he's struggling financially, factor in the constant arguments with his wife due to shortage of funds all the time. I once asked him why rushed to get married without a good source of income and he bluntly told me that he had always been broke while he was single and still broke now that he's married the only difference is that he can boast of his kids as an achievement unlike when he was single that he had nothing to boast of.

I have no issues what so ever with how anyone choose to life their life but considering the economic condition of this country now bringing in kids without proper plans is not the way to go. If my dad had given birth to maybe 3 kids I'm sure he wouldn't be stressed out the way he is now and the resources used in training 8 kids would be better managed on just 3kids.

Personally I feel that one of the surest way to perpetual poverty as a young guy is to get married while struggling financially. Like one of the examples above, he cast aside his personal development and aspirations just to cater for his family. Supposing he's still single I'm sure he would have cleared he's outstanding school fees and maybe get his certificate.

Well since I'm still single and still struggling I don't judge anybody, every mallam to his kettle. As for me no marriage till I'm financially stable enough to afford at least 3 bedroom flat, a small car and substantial savings. It would be an abomination for me to bring a child into this world to pass through the kind of life I had growing up.
like you rightly said, all mallam with him kettle. You cannot plan life. Live it as it comes. Let me tell you a story. In 1997, when I was in year 3 in a 5 years course, there was this friend of mine who impregnated his girlfriend and insisted on her delivering the baby. It was not easy for this guy and we were laughing at him. We said all what you just said. No marriage or children until ego arrive. Today, that guy has a graduate daughter while us laughers are still with 8 and 9 years old kids at 50. Also, you can have a good job, thinking all is well, get married and then get sacked from work. Do you then send your wife and kids away? Life is not all about what you have but about the potentials and belief in you. That is what makes you a man. If you say you want to make it first, we don't pray for failure but what if you don't make it or it comes very late, then to what end.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Nobody: 5:28pm On Dec 13, 2021
Dindondin:
Having children is an achievement.
Marrying without good source of income is bad. But it is another topic.
Hey Mr, having children is good but not an
achievement. Religion, poverty and ignorance have made a lot of people blind to this. Some would say who will live on with my name when i die, that's a fool's mindset cause after 5 century's or possibly even less your so called name would have been forgotten. What's having children if you can't take care of them, bringing them to this world to suffer. Most parents or people are 100% selfish to giving birth, all they want is someone to take care of then when they are old, they fucking don't even care about the child coming to suffer.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by MufasaLion: 5:28pm On Dec 13, 2021
dfrost:
MufasaLion my brother be claiming down. How did your day run or still running?
Going good, bro.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Divoc19(f): 5:29pm On Dec 13, 2021
It's an achievement that you will appreciate when you age.

Those people borrowing in the name of their kids are just lazy people.

Even if/when they don't have kids they'll still borrow.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Blue3k(m): 5:29pm On Dec 13, 2021
Yeah I think so.

Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Fairbanks(m): 5:30pm On Dec 13, 2021
[quote author=Supreme145 post=108428385]There is this motion that giving birth to children is an achievement in this country. I see young guys in mid and late twenties rushing into marriage while they are barely standing on their feet. From someone that comes from a family of 10 I'm sure if my dad is given a second chance he won't give birth as much children again. Let me share some of my experiences as regards giving birth without proper planning or sustainable income.

I've a neighbor in my compound, he's 32 and in his final year in the university, I can hardly have decent conversation with him without hearing about how he wants to get married. I would always remind him that he's living in a one room apartment, still a student without a strong source of income, but he would counter me saying that he can always start small and grow with his wife. Moreover when he gives birth he would have an investment.

I've have another friend that was a classmate in secondary school, he graduated the year I got admission though he had some issues with his results. One day he called me that he's married and I was surprised, though he is an artisan into all those parapets and pop stuffs I know he wasn't financially buoyant enough to carry a family. The last time I visited him he was looking malnourished and unable to sort out his issues in school almost four years after because according to him any money that he gets already has a pending issue waiting for it. He's looking far older than his elder brother who's still single, he looks 38 when he's just 30. He consoled himself by telling me that even if he doesn't have money he already has two kids which he sees an investment and a great achievement. Meanwhile they are cramped into a single room apartment and none of the kids are enrolled in school.

Last week while we were training in the evening, an argument broke out between two young guys. I was just by the side observing what was happening, I kept hearing stuffs like....why you dey argue with that guy? you no know say na person father he be? that guy don born two children o abi you think say e easy to born, na big achievement be that o. Now this is a guy that is about 25 years and has no sustainable means of income, he works in peoples farms and other menial jobs to make ends meet.

My next door married neighbor has become a torn in my flesh, he's always borrowing from me without paying so it's obvious he's struggling financially, factor in the constant arguments with his wife due to shortage of funds all the time. I once asked him why rushed to get married without a good source of income and he bluntly told me that he had always been broke while he was single and still broke now that he's married the only difference is that he can boast of his kids as an achievement unlike when he was single that he had nothing to boast of.

I have no issues what so ever with how anyone choose to life their life but considering the economic condition of this country now bringing in kids without proper plans is not the way to go. If my dad had given birth to maybe 3 kids I'm sure he wouldn't be stressed out the way he is now and the resources used in training 8 kids would be better managed on just 3kids.

Personally I feel that one of the surest way to perpetual poverty as a young guy is to get married while struggling financially. Like one of the examples above, he cast aside his personal development and aspirations just to cater for his family. Supposing he's still single I'm sure he would have cleared he's outstanding school fees and maybe get his certificate.

Well since I'm still single and still struggling I don't judge anybody, every mallam to his kettle. As for me no marriage till I'm financially stable enough to afford at least 3 bedroom flat, a small car and substantial savings. It would be an abomination for me to bring a child into this world to pass through the kind of life I had growing up



is untill when u get that money, build ur desired house, buy ur desired car then u get Married and u start ruining up and down looking for children at all cost and ur I'll- gotten Money can not buy u one u will get answer to ur stewpeed question. Fool!
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Fairbanks(m): 5:31pm On Dec 13, 2021
[quote author=Supreme145 post=108428385]There is this motion that giving birth to children is an achievement in this country. I see young guys in mid and late twenties rushing into marriage while they are barely standing on their feet. From someone that comes from a family of 10 I'm sure if my dad is given a second chance he won't give birth as much children again. Let me share some of my experiences as regards giving birth without proper planning or sustainable income.

I've a neighbor in my compound, he's 32 and in his final year in the university, I can hardly have decent conversation with him without hearing about how he wants to get married. I would always remind him that he's living in a one room apartment, still a student without a strong source of income, but he would counter me saying that he can always start small and grow with his wife. Moreover when he gives birth he would have an investment.

I've have another friend that was a classmate in secondary school, he graduated the year I got admission though he had some issues with his results. One day he called me that he's married and I was surprised, though he is an artisan into all those parapets and pop stuffs I know he wasn't financially buoyant enough to carry a family. The last time I visited him he was looking malnourished and unable to sort out his issues in school almost four years after because according to him any money that he gets already has a pending issue waiting for it. He's looking far older than his elder brother who's still single, he looks 38 when he's just 30. He consoled himself by telling me that even if he doesn't have money he already has two kids which he sees an investment and a great achievement. Meanwhile they are cramped into a single room apartment and none of the kids are enrolled in school.

Last week while we were training in the evening, an argument broke out between two young guys. I was just by the side observing what was happening, I kept hearing stuffs like....why you dey argue with that guy? you no know say na person father he be? that guy don born two children o abi you think say e easy to born, na big achievement be that o. Now this is a guy that is about 25 years and has no sustainable means of income, he works in peoples farms and other menial jobs to make ends meet.

My next door married neighbor has become a torn in my flesh, he's always borrowing from me without paying so it's obvious he's struggling financially, factor in the constant arguments with his wife due to shortage of funds all the time. I once asked him why rushed to get married without a good source of income and he bluntly told me that he had always been broke while he was single and still broke now that he's married the only difference is that he can boast of his kids as an achievement unlike when he was single that he had nothing to boast of.

I have no issues what so ever with how anyone choose to life their life but considering the economic condition of this country now bringing in kids without proper plans is not the way to go. If my dad had given birth to maybe 3 kids I'm sure he wouldn't be stressed out the way he is now and the resources used in training 8 kids would be better managed on just 3kids.

Personally I feel that one of the surest way to perpetual poverty as a young guy is to get married while struggling financially. Like one of the examples above, he cast aside his personal development and aspirations just to cater for his family. Supposing he's still single I'm sure he would have cleared he's outstanding school fees and maybe get his certificate.

Well since I'm still single and still struggling I don't judge anybody, every mallam to his kettle. As for me no marriage till I'm financially stable enough to afford at least 3 bedroom flat, a small car and substantial savings. It would be an abomination for me to bring a child into this world to pass through the kind of life I had growing up








is untill when u get that money, build ur desired house, buy ur desired car then u get Married and u start ruining up and down looking for children at all cost and ur I'll- gotten Money can not buy u one u will get answer to ur stewpeed question. shallow thinker.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by DSoj(m): 5:32pm On Dec 13, 2021
Dindondin:
Having children is an achievement.
Marrying without good source of income is bad. But it is another topic.
Do U have to quote the whole long write up? Dopemu
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Feelings79: 5:32pm On Dec 13, 2021
Supreme145:
grin
Omo bro your own pass my own o, e choke cheesy 50 years
Surprised?my next door neighbor who's fifty two and on a salary of less than 40k per month married a 24 year old lady,an NCE holder recently.It was the girl that pushed the man into marrying her sef
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by kebliss(m): 5:35pm On Dec 13, 2021
Klass99:
Where is the blessing in 5 kids when you cannot feed or pay bills and you constantly have to tap others, to help you pay those bills?

This one enter
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Suspect33(m): 5:39pm On Dec 13, 2021
donbachi:
Op,fyi:

A richman of 60yrs with no child.
And a 3rd world man of 60yrs with children.

No be mate.
#Ahamefula.
Ahamefula?? lol... The continuation of ones name is of no benefit to them after they're dead..
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Nobody: 5:39pm On Dec 13, 2021
ibechris:
U have said it all,in fact, u laid it bar for everyone with sense to learn.
I am 38 years old guy with three children and I can tell u that,time is coming when a child would be bigger responsibility for most parents to care for. The economy is not getting better at all.

Just like u mentioned that u guys were ten in number,my dad had us 5 and I decided to trim mine to the exact number I can feed,educate and nurtured according to my investments and salary. U have been there and that is why u could talk with confidence about matters like this.
My advice is this:
Every man should endeavour to marry an industrious woman becauee the so called one income idea is no longer working for anyone especially now that no one can predicts the future financially. Save to invest and create additional income.
Shebi men are busy marrying liabilities because of the word "feminist" I pity husband without a helper for the Buharia regime.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Decency2020(f):
Supreme145:
Well since I'm still single and still struggling I don't judge anybody, every mallam to his kettle. As for me no marriage till I'm financially stable enough to afford at least 3 bedroom flat, a small car and substantial savings. It would be an abomination for me to bring a child into this world to pass through the kind of life I had growing up.
Of all the nonsense you fabricated up there this few lines got me and it was enough to tell you are a small boy with small sense.



In your little mind once you get enough to rent a three bedroom apartment, buy car, have a substantial savings you are made right? You have never seen once a well to do man who sold off properties to feed and later had his belongings thrown out?


Small boy
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Goldbw122(m): 5:41pm On Dec 13, 2021
Children are achievement when you are rich.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Nobody: 5:42pm On Dec 13, 2021
Misterone:
like you rightly said, all mallam with him kettle. You cannot plan life. Live it as it comes. Let me tell you a story. In 1997, when I was in year 3 in a 5 years course, there was this friend of mine who impregnated his girlfriend and insisted on her delivering the baby. It was not easy for this guy and we were laughing at him. We said all what you just said. No marriage or children until ego arrive. Today, that guy has a graduate daughter while us laughers are still with 8 and 9 years old kids at 50. Also, you can have a good job, thinking all is well, get married and then get sacked from work. Do you then send your wife and kids away? Life is not all about what you have but about the potentials and belief in you. That is what makes you a man. If you say you want to make it first, we don't pray for failure but what if you don't make it or it comes very late, then to what end.
kiss
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by lereinter(m): 5:43pm On Dec 13, 2021
Na this concluding sentence got me,


As for me no marriage till I'm financially stable enough to afford at least 3 bedroom flat, a small car and substantial savings. It would be an abomination for me to bring a child into this world to pass through the kind of life I had growing up

Lolzzzzz

You think life is one way formula.

Better pray always
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Benwallt(m): 5:43pm On Dec 13, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
It's better to be 40 and single and poor than 40 and married and poor.
Sense full your head. To some getting married and having children are achievements
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Nobody: 5:45pm On Dec 13, 2021
iamkelvincent:
Hey Mr, having children is good but not an
achievement. Religion, poverty and ignorance have made a lot of people blind to this. Some would say who will live on with my name when i die, that's a fool's mindset cause after 5 century's or possibly even less your so called name would have been forgotten. What's having children if you can't take care of them, bringing them to this world to suffer. Most parents or people are 100% selfish to giving birth, all they want is someone to take care of then when they are old, they fucking don't even care about the child coming to suffer.
Well trained and mannered children is a great achievement!!! Unless your parents regret having you...then you are not an achievement. If kids weren't an achievement, so many couples wouldn't have opted for IVF. FFK wouldn't have seized those kids. huh
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by JONNYSPUTE(m): 5:46pm On Dec 13, 2021
DoingBetter:
I cannot safely say this to people that know me but I made the decision to be childfree a long time ago. Contrary to popular belief, I found my Soul mate with the same goals here in this country. As unbelievable as it sounds, we both got sterilized before dating. We have some similar reasons for our choices but we also have some different reasons as well. All I know is that I cannot relive the mistakes and hardships of the people before me. Being cf, I can do more for my future nephews and nieces than being preoccupied with my own. Like celibacy can be a calling for some people, parenthood isn't mine. I respect those who can and do so respectfully though... I was still a teen when I asked my mom to advise her friend to start family planning. That family had me worried with the way they kept having kids back to back while struggling to feed daily. Hearing about their situation constantly was disheartening. Somehow though, they always managed to make a new baby before the last one could start walking. I have seen firsthand what poverty can do to a woman who becomes a single parent and have to cater for several children alone. I have lived through it. I have been playing the role of a second parent to my siblings for years. Even now I can't turn it off anymore. Funny thing is that they're somehow better adjusted adults than me. I can't play house anymore. Society be damned. I make my own choices now. I
..... So how wealthy are you now? No vex o.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Suspect33(m): 5:46pm On Dec 13, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
Op it's not honestly. It's not even money to take care of kids. Mine is my kids being Nigerian citizens. I will cry myself everyday to sleep. Even dating is so expensive in Nigeria talk less of marriage. Just take a girl out and before you can say jack Robinson 20k is gone whereas me as a single guy will go out and have so much fun for 15k or even 10k. I really don't envy married men especially with all the nonsense I see around me.
she didn't put a gun to your head bro... Probably it's you who have nothing other than money to offer.. I always tell guys, it's the lady who should be trying to please and impress you and not the other way round.

Man is the prize but unfortunately he doesn't seem to realize that
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by nedekid: 5:47pm On Dec 13, 2021
ibechris:
U have said it all,in fact, u laid it bar for everyone with sense to learn.
I am 38 years old guy with three children and I can tell u that,time is coming when a child would be bigger responsibility for most parents to care for. The economy is not getting better at all.

Just like u mentioned that u guys were ten in number,my dad had us 5 and I decided to trim mine to the exact number I can feed,educate and nurtured according to my investments and salary. U have been there and that is why u could talk with confidence about matters like this.
My advice is this:
Every man should endeavour to marry an industrious woman becauee the so called one income idea is no longer working for anyone especially now that no one can predicts the future financially. Save to invest and create additional income.
Well said.
I am just like you, only difference age wise is +10, and dad had 3 more than your 5.
Industrious woman is a key advantage.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Gmajor(m): 5:47pm On Dec 13, 2021
donbachi:
Op,fyi:

A richman of 60yrs with no child.
And a 3rd world man of 60yrs with children.

No be mate.
#Ahamefula.
Do you remember your great grand father?
Do you even still bear the same surname as him?
You should realise that a time will come where no one alive will know, remember or think about you unless you impacted the world in some way.
Be it positive or negative.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Emperor88(m): 5:48pm On Dec 13, 2021
Not in Nigeria...we are overpopulated already living in extreme poverty.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Ofolete: 5:48pm On Dec 13, 2021
What you are writing doesn't concern an housa man. He will just born and send the child to go and cater for himself. This is the reason for almajiries
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by profndu(m):
Remember that juice dey finish or become watery. Poverty is a state of mind, no one has it all and no one will ever have it all.. The worst is to lose it all.. Today you can boast of your money or wealth but at a certain age you boast with your children.. The only task God gave Adam was to multiply and fill the earth and take charge of it.. Every man is Adamic and was given the same task, it is condition of things that brought all this considerations.. Your story is opposite to mine, my dad had me and my siblings at his early 20s and was doing only farming to train us, he suffered but today his blessed memory comes with rare gem in the entire village even before his death, the trend changed he was the first rather the last in the village not to talk about his age mates ( some are still poor and single till date).. Jump protocols that could be far fetched.. You cannot escape poverty by only been single or become poor just because you are married.. Life happens.. Na Africa be this ooo, government will not take care of you at old age if your journey to wealth fails..
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by penceman(m): 6:00pm On Dec 13, 2021
Absolutely not! We all come to the world programed with millions of kids in us. But you now discharge those kids according to capacity and national situation. Nigeria is already overpopulated hence
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Dindondin: 6:06pm On Dec 13, 2021
DSoj:
Do U have to quote the whole long write up? Dopemu
Sue me to court if you are in pains!
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by LARRYOBRAIN(m): 6:07pm On Dec 13, 2021
Children are blessings with responsibilities, plan, pray, try and God will take care of the rest.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by andy4d2ofus(m): 6:07pm On Dec 13, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
Yes o. That time I go dey Don enjoy everything I wan enjoy ehen. If I am bored I go marry if not I will just continue enjoyment and flexing.
What do you think you would enjoy at 50. no wife no children. Live without
a child or children at old age remember Nigeria don't have a welfare package for elderly your children is your sure bet to live your later life
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Dindondin: 6:10pm On Dec 13, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Even the most irresponsible among us can have a child. Considering the Nigerian society and poor welfare system, those who choose not to have children are instead achievers. undecided
You can't twist my statement.
My post isn't in support of irresponsible child bearers. Stop frowning at your keypad.
My post is based on life desires.
A lot desire to v children.
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