Maxwell4404:
This has nothing to do with religion, it's the Fact we learn and study to know more, on Nairaland and anywhere else, My friend if you can't learn there are people who are willing to learn

Suspect33:
Ahamefula?? lol... The continuation of ones name is of no benefit to them after they're dead..

Ninisun:
Well trained and mannered children is a great achievement!!! Unless your parents regret having you...then you are not an achievement. If kids weren't an achievement, so many couples wouldn't have opted for IVF. FFK wouldn't have seized those kids.

Gmajor:
Do you remember your great grand father?
Do you even still bear the same surname as him?
You should realise that a time will come where no one alive will know, remember or think about you unless you impacted the world in some way.
Be it positive or negative.

Ofolete:
What you are writing doesn't concern an housa man. He will just born and send the child to go and cater for himself. This is the reason for almajiries

profndu:
Remember that juice dey finish or become watery. Poverty is a state of mind, no one has it all and no one will ever have it all.. The worst is to lose it all.. Today you can boast of your money or wealth but at a certain age you boast with your children.. The only task God gave Adam was to multiply and fill the earth and take charge of it.. Every man is Adamic and was given the same task, it is condition of things that brought all this considerations..

LARRYOBRAIN:
Children are blessings with responsibilities, plan, pray, try and God will take care of the rest.

Foodqueen:
True,but yet again, u might acquire all these and still go broke after marriage.

There is no particular time table to live, things happens. Table can turn on anyone at any time.

Adakintroy:
Ask you father if having you was worth it.

After them una don enter this world na una de always ask mumu questions.

You for de that side ask.

andy4d2ofus:
One of the reason children are achievement unlike the western world where everything is planned for your old age is taken care of but no so in Nigeria your children is your future. If you like have children if you don't like don't .

Kobojunkiee:
Why is the worth of you as an individual and a independent soup dependent on the opinion or your father or anyone else for that matter?

Why are you unable to clearly reason these things out even at this age for Pete's sake?

Adakintroy:
I reasoned it out clearly and independently. But that's what I came up with.

Kobojunkiee:
I am not here twisting your statement.

Look, there are over 200 million people in Nigeria with over 75% of them living in perpetual poverty. Of those are recorded over 10 million children who are homeless, roaming the streets of the same country every single day. Suggesting that children are, in this same society, an achievement, is to do so by turning a blind eye to problems that are become a reality of life and living in Nigeria.

Dindondin:
If you wanna debate about population control, that's a different thing. If you wanna talk about how religion, polygamy & plenty children bearing culture has swelled Nigeria's population, that's a different debate.
On the north for example, you don't even see father's that ask for assistance to take care of their kids like those that just give birth to them via almajiri system. Will you cease their pen nis?

JovialJune:
Well, having kids is an achievement to those capable of taking care of them, it is a burden to those barely able to feed themselves talk more of the kids, and my interpretation of their situation is that of wickedness, selfishness, and pure evil, because I can never understand how some humans still trying to make sense of their lives, will bring another to the world to suffer with them, then call it an achievement.

Kobojunkiee:
a person with ability to clearly reasons things first understands that that worth of one life is not dependent on another, or even the mere opinion of another. .

Kobojunkiee:
That again is not a truth.

Children can be had in marriage and outside of marriage. They aren't a reward even for the marriage.

Financial stability is necessity of sorts for all, single and married alike. However it is irresponsible for any to embark on the burden of child raring without it.

The world has no need for more children. Society has no need for more of them given the population to resources ratio we suffer. That desire to have kids is a selfish one, making it even more ridiculous when people try to sell them as an achievement.

Lightway:


What's really tough about being pregnant and giving birth

Kobojunkiee:
There is simply no fact to what you stated since even religion which you tried to delude with in your comment does not agree with your claim.

What you have is the opinion of society that is ruled over by the foolishness not its majority, and nothing more.

OssyMalik:
Op, you sabi cho cho o! Only you with all these stories for children matter. Are you not also a shidren?

ahn ahn!!

Trumptech:
So why are you making it a topic when you have already concluded that you don't need a child till you get the money you are looking for. The truth is no one is forcing anyone to marry and have children, it is your choice. Person wey get children na children go bury am and the one wey no get na still children go bury am but whose children na him we no go know.

When you get to old age you will get answers to your questions.

Adakintroy:
Yeah right..like you socialize yourself by yourself. All you knew you thought yourself. Your parents orientation or society is not locked somewhere in you. How do you even know what your typing is your opinion?. Not something you picked up somewhere long forgotten?

Supreme145:
There is this motion that giving birth to children is an achievement in this country. I see young guys in mid and late twenties rushing into marriage while they are barely standing on their feet. From someone that comes from a family of 10 I'm sure if my dad is given a second chance he won't give birth as much children again. Let me share some of my experiences as regards giving birth without proper planning or sustainable income.

I've a neighbor in my compound, he's 32 and in his final year in the university, I can hardly have decent conversation with him without hearing about how he wants to get married. I would always remind him that he's living in a one room apartment, still a student without a strong source of income, but he would counter me saying that he can always start small and grow with his wife. Moreover when he gives birth he would have an investment.

I've have another friend that was a classmate in secondary school, he graduated the year I got admission though he had some issues with his results. One day he called me that he's married and I was surprised, though he is an artisan into all those parapets and pop stuffs I know he wasn't financially buoyant enough to carry a family. The last time I visited him he was looking malnourished and unable to sort out his issues in school almost four years after because according to him any money that he gets already has a pending issue waiting for it. He's looking far older than his elder brother who's still single, he looks 38 when he's just 30. He consoled himself by telling me that even if he doesn't have money he already has two kids which he sees an investment and a great achievement. Meanwhile they are cramped into a single room apartment and none of the kids are enrolled in school.

Last week while we were training in the evening, an argument broke out between two young guys. I was just by the side observing what was happening, I kept hearing stuffs like....why you dey argue with that guy? you no know say na person father he be? that guy don born two children o abi you think say e easy to born, na big achievement be that o. Now this is a guy that is about 25 years and has no sustainable means of income, he works in peoples farms and other menial jobs to make ends meet.

My next door married neighbor has become a torn in my flesh, he's always borrowing from me without paying so it's obvious he's struggling financially, factor in the constant arguments with his wife due to shortage of funds all the time. I once asked him why rushed to get married without a good source of income and he bluntly told me that he had always been broke while he was single and still broke now that he's married the only difference is that he can boast of his kids as an achievement unlike when he was single that he had nothing to boast of.

I have no issues what so ever with how anyone choose to life their life but considering the economic condition of this country now bringing in kids without proper plans is not the way to go. If my dad had given birth to maybe 3 kids I'm sure he wouldn't be stressed out the way he is now and the resources used in training 8 kids would be better managed on just 3kids.

Personally I feel that one of the surest way to perpetual poverty as a young guy is to get married while struggling financially. Like one of the examples above, he cast aside his personal development and aspirations just to cater for his family. Supposing he's still single I'm sure he would have cleared he's outstanding school fees and maybe get his certificate.

Well since I'm still single and still struggling I don't judge anybody, every mallam to his kettle. As for me no marriage till I'm financially stable enough to afford at least 3 bedroom flat, a small car and substantial savings. It would be an abomination for me to bring a child into this world to pass through the kind of life I had growing up.

Hathor5:
Nausea
Fatigue
Difficulties sleeping with a huge belly
Carrying the weight
Back pains
Shortness of breath
The pain of delivery
The post partum injuries and bleeding
And much more

Maxwell4404:
Oga sir you have a problem a very big one at that

greenie77:
" I once asked him why rushed to get married without a good source of income and he bluntly told me that he had always been broke while he was single and still broke now that he's married the only difference is that he can boast of his kids as an achievement unlike when he was single that he had nothing to boast of."........

ayubaski:
Don't mind him, what if u are unable to get that money you looking for and end up dying with out a child, in the course of making the money u will need somebody else child input to succeed.