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Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Newyorkitis(m): 11:20pm On Dec 13, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
So, those who skip #2 entirely, and still enjoy marriage are what? Unmarried? undecided
Lols... I'm just stating the reasons generally for marriage.
However, most of us if not because of having children, a lot of us will not get married in Africa.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by cooltola(m):
well it is easy to write this but I tell you that some poor couple are so broke that their only way to enjoyment is to have unprotected sex. [/b] Why use money to buy a condom when the man is thinking of money for food? the money that is meant to buy condoms is use for food.
I have observe one great mystery is that poor people born easily, they do not go for doctor appointment or ultrasound or yet they born many children easily
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by tolajay: 11:31pm On Dec 13, 2021
Deconstructing age-long notions and traditions is never an easy task.

For centuries, lessons on the "prime value of having children" have been un/consciously imbibed in most people's minds right from infancy. From the family circle to social, academic and religious circles, the teaching remains the same.

Mind you, ours is a system where independent thinking isn't encouraged neither is inquisition, questioning and challenging ideas supported. So most people pace through life sticking to the imbibed notion of living life in a circle: Go to school, get a job, marry, give birth, work-work-work and DIE. No purpose, no impact, no legacy, no value...

Some Christians believe that the bible injunction to "multiply and dominate the earth" means having uncontrolled birth. Well, Abraham never had several children, yet he fulfilled God's purpose of being the father of faith and is referenced in the story of activating God's redemption plan through Jesus.

We need to wipe people's mind on everything they've been thought throughout their lifetime and reinstall model ideas for contemporary living.

I recently asked a newly married friend, why she wants to have a baby and she said she wants to feel the joy of being pregnant and carrying a baby. Honestly, that response got me thinking about the thoughtlessness of many Nigerians on issues of life and future functionality. How do you hinge the future of child to your selfish ephemeral euphoria withoit having the required mental, spiritual, financial capacity to nurture the child to becoming a responsible social being?

We can really do better with our choices as humans. But only informed minds can make informed decisions.

Supreme145:
There is this motion that giving birth to children is an achievement in this country...
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by tolajay: 11:41pm On Dec 13, 2021
After Thoughts

1. It's grossly irresponsible for anyone to have a child without proper planning (mental, spiritual and financial...) for themselves and the child.

2. Religious people must practice the details of their faith: God is orderly and won't do anything brashly. He that can't take care of his family is worse than an infidel.

3. Birthing without commensurate resources for the children is not suitable and sustainable for the earth. Overpopulation and its attendant effects are real and will continually grow.

4. Children are not a retirement plan. Parents should be the one to leave inheritances for their kids.

5. People aren't poor because they don't have money, rather because of the garbage in their minds. Poor people without money are the ones that justify their birthing spree, because their minds are shallow and unproductive.



Supreme145:
There is this motion that giving birth to children is an achievement in this country...
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Kobojunkiee: 12:14am On Dec 14, 2021
Newyorkitis:
Lols... I'm just stating the reasons generally for marriage.
However, most of us if not because of having children, a lot of us will not get married in Africa.
Yet many in Africa have kids outside of wedlock, this since the time of forefathers, it has been so. undecided
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by showafrica(m): 2:04am On Dec 14, 2021
Foodqueen:
True,but yet again, u might acquire all these and still go broke after marriage.

There is no particular time table to live, things happens. Table can turn on anyone at any time.
Thats what most people don't know... The only question God is likely to ask you is your biological achievements. I don't think he will care how much you had when you were on earth. Just work hard everyday, money will follow you but your primary assignment is to increase and multiply.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by tunapawizzy: 3:21am On Dec 14, 2021
Achievement is personal ...What is an achievement to you may not be an achievement to me.... I am tilted towards thinking having children is an achievement, but I am also aware that not everyone will have children....To address your post and your neighbours, i think people should not put themselves under financial pressure in the name of wanting to have kids...dont bring a child to this life to suffer..nothing attractive in suffering.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Obarofrederick(m): 3:23am On Dec 14, 2021
Dindondin:
Sue me to court if you are in pains!
hahahahaha una no go kill person for this corntree
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by DSoj(m): 3:29am On Dec 14, 2021
Dindondin:
Sugomu, supo arogomu, oponu ayerada omo fobojona! Mo ri e sugbon o ju omo lasan lo!
So why are u barking like a rabid dog now? Aja digbolugi
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Kobojunkiee: 3:43am On Dec 14, 2021
tunapawizzy:
Achievement is personal ...What is an achievement to you may not be an achievement to me.... I am tilted towards thinking having children is an achievement, but I am also aware that not everyone will have children....To address your post and your neighbours, i think people should not put themselves under financial pressure in the name of wanting to have kids...dont bring a child to this life to suffer..nothing attractive in suffering.
Your children aren't your PERSONAL property since their existence is beyond yours so it is not up to you to decide them achievements or not. undecided

They are instead burdens you chose to sign up for and when you do, you are expected by all in society to meet the expectation. undecided
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Kobojunkiee: 3:45am On Dec 14, 2021
ayubaski:
Will you just stay in ur bed room and the sperm just fly from ur dick and and enter the woman hole in the other room
Every day in Nigeria, at least 1000,000 individuals - kids and adults alike -engage in sexual acts. For you to here claim credit for when conception takes place is ... astounding. undecided
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by tunapawizzy: 4:00am On Dec 14, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Your children aren't your PERSONAL property since their existence is beyond yours so it is not up to you to decide them achievements or not. undecided

They are instead burdens you chose to sign up for and when you do, you are expected by all in society to meet the expectation. undecided
Like i said achievement is personal. But more importantly i recommend that people have kids when they can take care of the kids
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Cousin9999: 5:21am On Dec 14, 2021
Bringing a life into the world is awesome. Raising them into good people is even better.

If someone tries to do it without first having a proper foundation, that's another story.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by BRATISLAVA: 5:33am On Dec 14, 2021
Another thread written by a poverty stricken boy who is seeing money for the first time in tech. The ramblings of little children.

Once married and with children, all these pointless threads will stop. In fact, these same noisemakers will be the ones brandishing their wives and children as achievements.

Staying single will not prevent poverty, it isn't what brings wealth either. Getting married will not cause poverty. All these talks of having few children and going on and on about it is nothing but woke poverty induced bullshit. Sterilize yourselves if you are serious about it, sterilize yourselves today. No volunteers?

How many people in today's world have more than 5 children? In the days some of you were born, your hands were needed on the farm as a form of generational wealth. Nowadays you can have just as many children without them growing up to complain about having to go to the farm. It seems talking about having few children is a fad from the tastelessly noveau riche.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Dindondin: 6:20am On Dec 14, 2021
DSoj:
So why are u barking like a rabid dog now? Aja digbolugi
Eran Iya-Osogbo, cry more. You are in pains!
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by cococandy(f): 6:44am On Dec 14, 2021
Perfectly said
Hathor5:
I would not say it is an achievement but carrying a pregnancy and giving birth is hard work. At least for me. Some women claim it has been the most beautiful time of their lives. They are superwomen. I am not.

I see no problem in getting married early even though you are still building your life. You can build your lives together and support each other. But I would recommend those young couples to use family planning methods and wait with the kids until they can take care of them.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by ayubaski: 7:01am On Dec 14, 2021
Mr Man, guy u can't force ur opinion on me, my kids are great achievement to me, so get lost



Kobojunkiee:
Every day in Nigeria, at least 1000,000 individuals - kids and adults alike -engage in sexual acts. For you to here claim credit for when conception takes place is ... astounding. undecided
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Nobody:
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Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by paddyDIGITAL(m): 7:36am On Dec 14, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Children are no achievements. If those same children were to die before you or end up spending life in jail, will you also claim them as your achievements? undecided
Every good parent wishes to have children who do better is life, and outlive them, sustaining the family legacy. Are you hoping to have yours end up in jail, or die before you?
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Athemisia: 7:41am On Dec 14, 2021
Foodqueen:
True,but yet again, u might acquire all these and still go broke after marriage.

There is no particular time table to live, things happens. Table can turn on anyone at any time.
Coming from a woman....... angry
Not surprised..
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Athemisia: 7:45am On Dec 14, 2021
Supreme145:
Madam na my opinion, this is a forum and everyone is free to express his or her self. If you like breed like chickens it's not my business.

Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Athemisia: 7:46am On Dec 14, 2021
paddyDIGITAL:
Every good parent wishes to have children who do better is life, and outlive them, sustaining the family legacy. Are you hoping to have yours end up in jail, or die before you?
Hope alone is not enough. What do have on ground to bring that hope to reality?
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Bosch10(m): 7:59am On Dec 14, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
Besides men can marry anytime they want even at 80. I for one want to marry at 50. 50 because they say single people regret being single at 50. I am happy being single now but if I reach 50 and don't like it I go marry then at least I go don dey see better money probably as a software architect or CTO.
hello sir,do you know what the Bible says about the wife of one's youth
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Nobody:
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Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Immorttal: 8:32am On Dec 14, 2021
donbachi:
Op,fyi:

A richman of 60yrs with no child.
And a 3rd world man of 60yrs with children.

No be mate.
#Ahamefula.
african mentality. People intentionally don't want children, and dem plenty.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Immorttal: 8:35am On Dec 14, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
Besides men can marry anytime they want even at 80. I for one want to marry at 50. 50 because they say single people regret being single at 50. I am happy being single now but if I reach 50 and don't like it I go marry then at least I go don dey see better money probably as a software architect or CTO.
i love this.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by ayubaski: 8:50am On Dec 14, 2021
You don't want children that your business, you want to gather all the money in the whole world before bearing children that your business, we that have them or want to have them see them as achievement.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by Spartachico007(m): 8:54am On Dec 14, 2021
[quote author=dazzlingd post=108474952]May God give u enough gifts....

Amen
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by freddaboh(m): 9:08am On Dec 14, 2021
Supreme145:
There is this motion that giving birth to children is an achievement in this country. I see young guys in mid and late twenties rushing into marriage while they are barely standing on their feet. From someone that comes from a family of 10 I'm sure if my dad is given a second chance he won't give birth as much children again. Let me share some of my experiences as regards giving birth without proper planning or sustainable income.

I've a neighbor in my compound, he's 32 and in his final year in the university, I can hardly have decent conversation with him without hearing about how he wants to get married. I would always remind him that he's living in a one room apartment, still a student without a strong source of income, but he would counter me saying that he can always start small and grow with his wife. Moreover when he gives birth he would have an investment.

I've have another friend that was a classmate in secondary school, he graduated the year I got admission though he had some issues with his results. One day he called me that he's married and I was surprised, though he is an artisan into all those parapets and pop stuffs I know he wasn't financially buoyant enough to carry a family. The last time I visited him he was looking malnourished and unable to sort out his issues in school almost four years after because according to him any money that he gets already has a pending issue waiting for it. He's looking far older than his elder brother who's still single, he looks 38 when he's just 30. He consoled himself by telling me that even if he doesn't have money he already has two kids which he sees an investment and a great achievement. Meanwhile they are cramped into a single room apartment and none of the kids are enrolled in school.

Last week while we were training in the evening, an argument broke out between two young guys. I was just by the side observing what was happening, I kept hearing stuffs like....why you dey argue with that guy? you no know say na person father he be? that guy don born two children o abi you think say e easy to born, na big achievement be that o. Now this is a guy that is about 25 years and has no sustainable means of income, he works in peoples farms and other menial jobs to make ends meet.

My next door married neighbor has become a torn in my flesh, he's always borrowing from me without paying so it's obvious he's struggling financially, factor in the constant arguments with his wife due to shortage of funds all the time. I once asked him why rushed to get married without a good source of income and he bluntly told me that he had always been broke while he was single and still broke now that he's married the only difference is that he can boast of his kids as an achievement unlike when he was single that he had nothing to boast of.

I have no issues what so ever with how anyone choose to life their life but considering the economic condition of this country now bringing in kids without proper plans is not the way to go. If my dad had given birth to maybe 3 kids I'm sure he wouldn't be stressed out the way he is now and the resources used in training 8 kids would be better managed on just 3kids.

Personally I feel that one of the surest way to perpetual poverty as a young guy is to get married while struggling financially. Like one of the examples above, he cast aside his personal development and aspirations just to cater for his family. Supposing he's still single I'm sure he would have cleared he's outstanding school fees and maybe get his certificate.

Well since I'm still single and still struggling I don't judge anybody, every mallam to his kettle. As for me no marriage till I'm financially stable enough to afford at least 3 bedroom flat, a small car and substantial savings. It would be an abomination for me to bring a child into this world to pass through the kind of life I had growing up.
That's right. It's very wrong to even give birth to children you know you cannot take care of.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by ayubaski: 9:15am On Dec 14, 2021
Yeah, but also note that even when u feel u av all the resources, you can be rich today and poor tomorrow it's vice versa...



freddaboh:
That's right. It's very wrong to even give birth to children you know you cannot take care of.
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by ayubaski: 10:59am On Dec 14, 2021
Some of you saying it's not an achievement, if I were your neighbor and you tell me bearing children is not an achievement I will barr my children from running any errands for u
Re: Are Children Really An Achievement?? by tolajay: 11:11am On Dec 14, 2021
Thanks for the kind words.

Your recognition of value speaks volume of your mental muscle. grin

BTW, I am a HE on a daily course for improvement.

Klass99:
You are overkilling it! This is one of the best comments I have read on this thread and forum today.

Again, the highlights in bold be busting my head like kilode? Who are you? At least tell me if you are male or female. This kind of mindset is too rare and very unique, I like it wink
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