airmark:


Fernandinho of Shaktar Donetsk bought at 36m in 2013, that immediately Fraudiola joined City, he was hailing?

The same Fernandinho that won Epl before Fraudiola came?

Did Matic not win the EPL before joining Man Utd? Did Man Utd not sign Matic for 40M?

raumdeuter:


How old was Matic when he was bought he Is 3yrs younger than Fernandinho and both of them have their limitations its left to the coach to maximize their ability

If you want to go by spending Man utd have spent as much as City in recent times yet their players look lost on the field

See Pogba see Maguire see Lukaku before he left. See Sancho see VdB see Martial of all your big money signings in the last 6yrs only Bruno looks good. Compare that to other teams

City have been spending mind-boggling amounts of money before even Pep arrived.

And Pep’s arrival only accelerated the spending.

No one in the history of football has spent 400m on defenders in 2 years.

Pep did.

No one in the history of football has spent $1bn on their squad in less than a decade.

Pep did.

No one in the history of football has enjoyed the privilege of a blank Cheque that Pep Guardiola enjoys at City.

Pep is good no doubt, but without lots of quality players he’s going to struggle.

Leyqute:


Ronaldo is 36 years old.

Wayne Rooney is 36 years old.

Which of the two is still playing in a top league today?

Which one of them left top flight football 5 years ago?

It’s not about age chief.

Younger doesn’t mean better.

There’s no way you’ll pick this Matic over Fernandinho.

You wont pick them because they didnt have a coach to work on them. Will you pick AWB Lindelof Maguire Bailly Shaw, Pogba, Fred Martial DvB etc all the other players in Man Utd over their rivals elsewhere?

Is it possible that all these big money buys are all just bad once they wear Man Utds shirt? If these players were under Pep you will be talking differently about them

Its like a 2 married men, One takes care and spend on his wife she is looking gogeous and the other neglects his wife and she is looking tattered. Mr B is now looking with jealousy at Mr A's wife forgetting that if only he had groomed his own wife like Mr A, they will be at par

raumdeuter:


[s]You wont pick them because they didnt have a coach to work on them. Will you pick AWB Lindelof Maguire Bailly Shaw, Pogba, Fred Martial DvB etc all the other players in Man Utd over their rivals elsewhere?

Is it possible that all these big money buys are all just bad once they wear Man Utds shirt? If these players were under[/s] Pep [s]you will be talking differently about them

Its like a 2 married men, One takes care and[/s] spends [s]on his wife she is looking gogeous and the other neglects his wife and she is looking tattered. Mr B is now looking with jealousy at Mr A's wife forgetting that if only he had groomed his own wife like Mr A, they will be at par[/s]

Thank you.

Players like Bernardo Cancelo Mahrez, Ferran, Gundogan etc were all laughed at as flops in their first season under Pep.

At Liverpool same with Players like Fabinho Thiago,

After the coaches worked on them Now they are the ones we are calling success and looking at with envy

While those have gotten significantly better, the likes of Maguire Matic, Martial Pogba AWB Lindelof have gotten worse

Leyqute:


Thank you.

Just like Man Utd spends but not getting the output of City

Leyqute:


Thank you.

Manchester United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has spent at least £100million more than the club's Premier League title rivals despite the quality of performances nose-diving.

United have spent over £100m more than rivals Manchester City, who have splashed out £199.6m during the same period - and have two Premier League titles to show for it.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-utd-solskjaer-transfer-spend-21975076

Leyqute:


Thank you.

Man Utd has spent almost the same amount as City since Pep joined, why do you think their results are significantly different?

Trevor012:

Am not going to dilly dally with you. Even klopp is a better manager than Mourinho. The greatest coach of all time is Sir Alex Ferguson then comes the rest. Mourinho won't even make top 6.

Abeg abeg, Fergie is not the GOAT.

Leyqute:


City have been spending mind-boggling amounts of money before even Pep arrived.

And Pep’s arrival only accelerated the spending.

No one in the history of football has spent 400m on defenders in 2 years.

Pep did.

No one in the history of football has spent $1bn on their squad in less than a decade.

Pep did.

No one in the history of football has enjoyed the privilege of a blank Cheque that Pep Guardiola enjoys at City.

Pep is good no doubt, but without lots of quality players he’s going to struggle.

Wat does it matter if Pep spends on defenders and Man Utd spend on midfielders? What point is that actually? Lets se the total spend from both sides cos I am not really a fan of net spend which even shows Man utd spent more

No these are false

Since Pep joined lets compare how much Man Utd has spent and how much City has spent


2016/17
Man City $236M
Man Utd $203M

2017/18
Man City $349
Man Utd $218

2018/19
Man City $86M
Man Utd $90M

2019/20
Man City $175M
Man Utd $258M

2020/21
Man City $92M
Man Utd $183M

2021/22
Man City $140M
Man Utd $154M

Total

Man City $1,078
Man Utd $1,106

Source Transfermarkt

From the above we have seen that Man Utd has spent over 1billion just like Man City. We can also see that Man Utd has outspent Man City
We can also see the league table the gulf between both sides

Man Utd spent more than City yet their result is inferior

Leyqute:
No one in the history of football has spent $1bn on their squad in less than a decade.

So with the evidence shown above will you like to revise this statement?

So my account was reported and banned because the very dumb simple-minded imbecile_like joezinhho. A joncing fool couldn't take back what he gives. I mean, the bastard insulted me unprovoked but couldn't take back even a little clap down. Such a shame. But not surprising, that's what scums do.

raumdeuter:


Just like Man Utd spends but not getting the output of City

Useless manager. Legend wey no fit honourably resign. Wait, he is a mercenary abeg, like Chicharito!

donjazet:
So my account was reported and banned because the very dumb simple-minded imbecile_like joezinhho. A joncing fool couldn't take back what he gives. I mean, the bastard insulted me unprovoked but couldn't take back even a little clap down. Such a shame. But not surprising, that's what scums do.

Find it interesting that people report one another to the mods. This is just an online forum ffs. Why take stuffs that happen here seriously?

nitrogen:


Find it interesting that people report one another to the mods. This is just an online forum ffs. Why take stuffs that happen here seriously?

It's truly astonishing. The worst part of this is that I was on my own when the nincompoop just called me out from nowhere only to go and report when I clapped back. Such a sissy.

raumdeuter:


Did Matic not win the EPL before joining Man Utd? Did Man Utd not sign Matic for 40M?

And you called him Serbian Olofinjana. Why are you now changing mouth on him?

36m on Fernandinho in 2013 and 40m on Matic in 2017? Stop shooting yourself in the leg. Stay in one place.

popizaino:



Sir Pep Guardiola found it difficult to motivate the Bayern Munich players who had just won treble the previous season.Any more question ?

What now happened to the tactical genius?

Man Utd match against Brighton on Saturday postponed..

raumdeuter:


When Mourinho use a club like Leicester to win the epl then start your comparison

Porto winning the UCL,is bigger than Leicester winning the EPL....

And also remember what he did at Chelsea that had deadwoods like cudiccini, hasselbaink etc... ...winning the epl back to back under fergie and wenger

airmark:
And you called him Serbian Olofinjana. Why are you now changing mouth on him?

36m on Fernandinho in 2013 and 40m on Matic in 2017? Stop shooting yourself in the leg. Stay in one place.

He is Serbian Olofinjana and a very limited player just like Fernandinho is a limited player who Pep has used to great things

larride:


What now happened to the tactical genius?

Tactics was on point, motivation went missing that's all that happened.

raumdeuter:

Wat does it matter if Pep spends on defenders and Man Utd spend on midfielders? What point is that actually? Lets se the total spend from both sides cos I am not really a fan of net spend which even shows Man utd spent more

No these are false

Since Pep joined lets compare how much Man Utd has spent and how much City has spent
2016/17
Man City $236M
Man Utd $203M
2017/18
Man City $349
Man Utd $218
2018/19
Man City $86M
Man Utd $90M
2019/20
Man City $175M
Man Utd $258M

2020/21
Man City $92M
Man Utd $183M
2021/22
Man City $140M
Man Utd $154M
Total
Man City $1,078
Man Utd $1,106
Source Transfermarkt
From the above we have seen that Man Utd has spent over 1billion just like Man City. We can also see that Man Utd has outspent Man City
We can also see the league table the gulf between both sides
Man Utd spent more than City yet their result is inferior

This is a disingenuous use of figures. That's if the figures are accurate.
2 major skewed factors are; different players spent for different managers and 2, differences in board signing and manager signing.

It's very possible that transfers like that of Ronaldo, Pogba, Lukaku were board signings. I'm sure of the latter two because Mourinho has publicly stated his despise for riola and almost never signed players from him throughout his managerial career.

So again, first point, that money was spread across 3 different managers, and you know that once a new manager comes, he wants to sign players that fit into his style of play.

Second point, difference in manager and board signing. Man-u is a club that signs players not just for managerial preference but commercial preference also. Sometimes this has led to an incompatibility between player and manager, unlike mancity that started signing players for Guardiola even before he arrived and never signed against his will.

raumdeuter:


Man Utd has spent almost the same amount as City since Pep joined, why do you think their results are significantly different?

Squad depth

donjazet:


This is a disingenuous use of figures. That's if the figures are accurate.
2 major skewed factors are; different players spent for different managers and 2, differences in board signing and manager signing.

It's very possible that transfers like that of Ronaldo, Pogba, Lukaku were board signings. I'm sure of the latter two because Mourinho has publicly stated his despise for riola and almost never signed players from him throughout his managerial career.

So again, first point, that money was spread across 3 different managers, and you know that once a new manager comes, he wants to sign players that fit into his style of play.

Second point, difference in manager and board signing. Man-u is a club that signs players not just for managerial preference but commercial preference also. Sometimes this has led to an incompatibility between player and manager, unlike mancity that started signing players for Guardiola even before he arrived and never signed against his will.

I gave you numbers, I gave you the source, you are still asking if the figures are accurate. Is it not for you to check and point to which one is not correct?

Can yu also point out the board vs Manager signing in Man City? or is it only Man Utd that has this?

It is also possible that all the signings Man city made in the last 6yrs were board signings and Pep did not make any

Our match postponed again.

raumdeuter:


So with the evidence shown above will you like to revise this statement?

Look at this one.

You thought I was talking about a club.

If that was the case, all teams in the top 6 has spent that much on their squad. Or very close to it.

And you chose a period that suits your narrative.

Since that statement was hard for you to understand, let me rephrase it.

No manager in the history of football has spent $1bn on their squad.

Oya get back to work.

Assignment don land.

airmark:


And you called him Serbian Olofinjana. Why are you now changing mouth on him?

36m on Fernandinho in 2013 and 40m on Matic in 2017? Stop shooting yourself in the leg. Stay in one place.

Egungun no dey hear word

Leyqute:


Look at this one.

You thought I was talking about a club.

If that was the case, all teams in the top 6 has spent that much on their squad. Or very close to it.

And you chose a period that suits your narrative.

Since that statement was hard for you to understand, let me rephrase it.

No manager in the history of football has spent $1bn on their squad.

Oya get back to work.

Assignment don land.

How did the period suit my narrative? I picked from the date Pep joined the league. So what period suits your own narrative? 20yrs when Pep was still a player, 10yrs when pep was still coaching Barcelona, 6yrs when Pep joined City or 1 year?

If you want us to look at since Rangnick joined we can also do that

Pick the period and seasons you want us to compare Man Utd vs Man City transfer spendings

Leyqute:


Thank you.

Leyqute Legbegbe You no get time for long stories

raumdeuter:


When Mourinho use a club like Leicester to win the epl then start your comparison

When Ranieri/Wenger/Pep use a team like Inter Milan to win treble, then we can compare any to Jose

Jokerman:


Your opinion or football records or Fifa rankings?

My opinion plus football records plus FIFA ranking plus whatever metric you want to add. Fergie is the Goat