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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by nonxo007(m): 9:48am On Dec 22, 2021
Odidigboigbo:
The only candidate that will guarantees APC winning the election is Osibanjo any other candidates is work over for PDP.
Funny enough I support your comment wholeheartedly, Osibanjo is the only neutral person in APC right now. A good number of northerners would side him over Tinubu, and definitely the South will through their weight behind him. But the issue now is he might be as weak as Jonathan which at this point might be a disaster to the nation. For Nigeria to get better we need a hard handed leader like Obasanjo.

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by emmykk(m): 9:49am On Dec 22, 2021
Move2:


https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/12/22/the-bola-tinubu-dilemma/


APC dilemma is PDP trying to bring a Northern as their presidential candidate and not over Tinubu presidential ambition.

Buhari lead APC don't hold Tinubu any support because the party have already reward the effort of Tinubu through VP and Speakership.

If Atiku get PDP tickets forget it Tinubu is going no where.
The president men will have to decides whether to be with Tinubu or support a Northern.

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by ityP(m): 9:51am On Dec 22, 2021
Dangrace01:


Igbos wont support anything north ; igbos vote would divide into two

Those who want biafra

Those who would vote any southern candidate

And plz pdp is not an igbo party


Lol. Igbos hate APC more than they hate a northern candidate. They've ALWAYS voted PDP. Even Anambra wey be APGA go vote for PDP for presidential elections. Leave talk.

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by Dmacqh(m): 9:52am On Dec 22, 2021
So someone in his right senses is nursing the ambition of Tinubu Presidency. Someone who can’t work properly. Someone who is closer to been a centurion than Nigeria age . Who did this to us ? Even if Tinubu feels he has done enough for APC , why can’t he project Fashola, Osibanjo , Adeshina etc . Are they not Yoruba people ? Or they will betray his bullion van ambition ?
Same with Atiku at his age , what did he forget in Presidency ? He will be same as Buhari that only wanted to be President but has no plans to rule . There are capable men in Nigeria , there’s Ngige , Peter Obi , Rochas , Umahi , Wike , Zulu , Kwankwaso, Ondo state governor, Amaechi , can’t we choose among them .

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by ityP(m): 9:52am On Dec 22, 2021
Fiscus105:



Yet they can't do it until Tinubu helped them to rally round SW.


Stop deceiving urself, no single Nigeria politician today can withstand tinubu political sagacity including Bubu himself.


We wait
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by Dangrace01: 9:53am On Dec 22, 2021
BabbanBura:


Sadly Bro, it is primarily a game of numbers, the north has it. The disunity in the south ( especially SW and SE) is the greatest undoing of the South and the greatest advantage of the North.

Did you notice how the north was jittery when the entire southern governors united against the herdsmen issues? Didn't you notice that suddenly the herdsmen arrogant atrocities has almost stopped completely?

Secondly the heightened romance between the north and east, do you think it is because rhe north likes the igbos? Never! Religiously and historically the north will NEVER like the Igbo. Any love the north shows rhe south east is purely part of the permutations for the north to achieve an aim or two.

My point is, the north derives it's power from its population and the disunity of the south. As long as the south won't unite and work together, the north will continue to arrogantly dictate what happens in the country.

Let the entire south unite and then you will see the north bow to its knees!


My everyday prayer.
If im tinubu fight for the release of nnamdi kanu and use it to draw igbos closer.

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by ityP(m): 9:53am On Dec 22, 2021
Dangrace01:
I want to ask a question

Why would northerners want to spite tinubu?

I'm thinking otherwise because i suspect the north is afraid that crisis would arise if they deny tinubu ticket.

Well sha


Tinubu would advocate Restructuring. Northerners no wan carry ear hear that talk. Especially now
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by ityP(m): 9:54am On Dec 22, 2021
Dangrace01:


Thats what I think

Pdp and apc would produce southern candidate


Lol. PDP no go waste their chance. If they field a southerner, he'd lose hands down. They have a chance with a northerner. Igbos have always voted PDP.
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by ab1x: 9:55am On Dec 22, 2021
Odidigboigbo:
The only candidate that will guarantees APC winning the election is Osibanjo any other candidates is work over for PDP.


The question begging for answer is that does Osinbajo has polical structure?

The last time I checked, you can't win election without police structure in place.

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by ityP(m): 9:55am On Dec 22, 2021
Odidigboigbo:
They were a lot of Northern Muslim candidates in 2011 when the North votes for a Christian Southerner (Jonathan).


The core north didn't vote for Jonathan abeg. Be calming down. They've always voted Buhari
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by ityP(m): 9:57am On Dec 22, 2021
Dangrace01:
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My everyday prayer.
If im tinubu fight for the release of nnamdi kanu and use it to draw igbos closer.


It's too late
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by Dangrace01: 9:58am On Dec 22, 2021
ityP:



Lol. PDP no go waste their chance. If they field a southerner, he'd lose hands down. They have a chance with a northerner. Igbos have always voted PDP.

Not this time around igbos are tired of hearing anything Hausa i can tell tell you for free. If pdp brings a northerner they have killed themselves
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by Ttalk: 9:59am On Dec 22, 2021
Frigga13:
grin
Yoruba man article

A hundred Tinubu no fit defeat Atiku in an election
Atiku won last election .. no be noise .. but took it good because of United North

Atiku already have 13 million votes and how many votes did Tinubu and his Yoruba family gave to Buhari

Tinubu brought in money , private jets, Fulani and north brought in money too..

A kwankwazo will defeat Tinubu.. Elrufia will defeat Tinubu... a saraki will defeat Tinubu.. Obi might go toe to toe with Tinubu

Yoruba people and noise ...

Why Tinubu didn’t contest again Jonathan if he was that powerful.. why negotiating with Buhari.. Tinubu sucked on Buhari 12.5 million votes.. and still lost his dream of Vice.

Elections is all about voting .. Any party in government have the rigging machinery .. but atimes it over inec..

For all this Yoruba noise .. Tinubu Must contest. Tinubu is not Trump .. America is not Nigeria..

North are not slaves to yoruba people neither any tribe

Yoruba should look for a non tribalist .. like Obasanjo and Nigeria might consider the person

But a Tinubu.. Walai Tinubu will fine it difficult winning ya ya Bello..

If Yoruba want make them write article from now to Jerusalem ...

Fact
Nobody trust a Yoruba man in Nigeria and that’s the open secret .

Same reason why yoruba people have been in opposition since the days of Awolowo and will soon go back to opposition.. this time nobody will really take them serious .. Nigerians have seen them finish

From a tribalistic osibanjo to a greedy Tinubu

YORUBA PEOPLE MUST CONTEST..

Power returns North

Asgard, It's too early to change moniker, we are keenly following your rants and would be here to mock you when all your emotional rants fall on your face.
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by hope4nigeria(m): 10:00am On Dec 22, 2021
Kriss216:
Worst scenario;
The North will give Tinubu the APC ticket and move to support Atiku, their own.

It's a win win for the North.

No thanks to Tinubu and his sophisticated followers.
exactly, north don't care about any party but it's own

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by saintrow1: 10:02am On Dec 22, 2021
Kriss216:
Worst scenario;
The North will give Tinubu the APC ticket and move to support Atiku, their own.

It's a win win for the North.

No thanks to Tinubu and his sophisticated followers.

Story story story when 2023 comes your eyes will clear. In Nigeria, vote doesn't count. It's just about arrangement
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by Frigga13: 10:02am On Dec 22, 2021
Ttalk:


Asgard, It's too early to change moniker, we are keenly following your rants and would be here to mock you when all your emotional rants fall on your face.

Asgard ke

Till then keep monitoring
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by ocelot2006(m): 10:03am On Dec 22, 2021
Nigerians, are we ever going to learn from our mistakes? First you voted in a completely disastrous vegetable, now you want to vote in a godfather who turned Lagos into his personal property? Seriously who cursed us? Have we not suffered enough?
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by hope4nigeria(m): 10:04am On Dec 22, 2021
nonxo007:

Funny enough I support your comment wholeheartedly, Osibanjo is the only neutral person in APC right now. A good number of northerners would side him over Tinubu, and definitely the South will through their weight behind him. But the issue now is he might be as weak as Jonathan which at this point might be a disaster to the nation. For Nigeria to get better we need a hard handed leader like Obasanjo.
my thought exactly

Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by ityP(m): 10:04am On Dec 22, 2021
Dangrace01:


Not this time around igbos are tired of hearing anything Hausa i can tell tell you for free. If pdp brings a northerner they have killed themselves


Be watching boss. Except na primaries, if a northerner appears on the ballot for PDP, East will vote him

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by Odidigboigbo(m): 10:11am On Dec 22, 2021
ityP:



The core north didn't vote for Jonathan abeg. Be calming down. They've always voted Buhari
They all needs not to vote for him, just like during Jonathan period. Just simple majority to seal the victory.
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by RodgersAkpafu: 10:18am On Dec 22, 2021
27Pushing30:
If PDP fields Atiku or Tambuwal then IGBOS must admit they’re just bitter fellows
Your comment makes no sense
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by Odidigboigbo(m): 10:20am On Dec 22, 2021
ab1x:



The question begging for answer is that does Osinbajo has polical structure?

The last time I checked, you can't win election without police structure in place.
As it stands today, there is no individual structure that cut across all strata of Nigeria. Jagaban structure does not go beyond SW, Buhari structure is not known beyond the North. Ameachi structure is not known beyond Rivers state. It's a matter of reaching a compromise and present a formidable candidate that is generally accepted, which is no body but Osibanjo.

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by Biafrarep(m): 10:26am On Dec 22, 2021
Dangrace01:


Not this time around igbos are tired of hearing anything Hausa i can tell tell you for free. If pdp brings a northerner they have killed themselves

According to you, "Igbos are tired of hearing anything Hausa"

Is it then yoruba that we are not tired of hearing?

If for any foolish reason Igbos are not on the tickets, then we would rather vote Atiku or any other Northerner than another yoruba. It is greediness and covetousness that will make Tinubu or any other yoruba man to fight for presidency after being there for 16 years cummulatively since 1999.

You yorubas are inconsiderate and selfish, the Hausa you claim we are tired of hearing even has a justifiable claim to the presidency than the yoruba.

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by Nobody: 10:31am On Dec 22, 2021
MARKone:
Saw a video clip of this man recently, Baba couldn't even stand erect properly with staggered steps. The people trying to foist this man on Nigerians are really the true Enemies of this country, how greedy and self-centred some people can be. Sentiments aside, Tinubu is Old, and very weak, he won't make a good president for a complex country such as Nigeria. Same grave mistake that was made with Buhari. I admire Tinubu, but I think he needs to shelve this his ambition, and support a more Vibrant younger individual, who would even have that "Tinubu vision" for the country.
..


When excalty did u learn work from Lai...?
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by Ttalk: 10:32am On Dec 22, 2021
ab1x:



The question begging for answer is that does Osinbajo has polical structure?

The last time I checked, you can't win election without police structure in place.

What political structure made Jonathan president in 2011. Presidential election is different from every other election. It is solely determine by political elite and foreign interest. The populace are always there to queue behind anyone put forward. The president's decline to accent electoral bill pointing defect of section 87 is a pointer that the political elite are not ready to let go the power of chosing who they wanted.

They have said no to direct primary which could give the people power of choice. So having no structure has little or no role to play when it comes to chosing who becomes president of Nigeria
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by jaytee01(m): 10:51am On Dec 22, 2021
filevino:
Back in 2015, You voted a terrorist sympathetic incompetent dunce a.k.a Mannequin at 21 years old, by 2023 you will be 28 years old. Continue.

If you like vote old cargos like the frog eyed, drug baron with no vision, i.e Mannequin 2.0 you will regret it.

Your 30s will be wasted and at 40 you will have nothing to show for it.

Be warned.
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by 27Pushing30: 10:57am On Dec 22, 2021
RodgersAkpafu:

Your comment makes no sense
. You need wisdom to understand it.

I understand your predicament sha .. you can’t give what you don’t have

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by sangresan(m): 11:05am On Dec 22, 2021
jeff1993:
The North are more advanced in the act of Politicking than the whole southern tribes combined!!!!..... All the whole northerners can Unify irrespective of party affiliates to push their very own to the top, but can't say same of the south.

APC may give Jagaban the ticket but they will go behind and rally for Atiku ..... After elections them they will doassive Exodus to PDP

Please NL family..... I need someone to mentor me in any digital money making skill ..... I am broke and I don't want to be broke next year


I want to believe that you're a teenager or in your 20s. I don't think a mature guy with knowledge of how Nigerian politics works will say this. This is because the North has never been monolithic. From the First Republic to the Second Republic down to the present Fourth Republic, the North has never rallied behind a single candidate. The fable that the North will queue behind Atiku exists in the imagination of PDP apologists and their fellow IPOB wannabes.

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by sangresan(m): 11:07am On Dec 22, 2021
Biafrarep:


According to you, "Igbos are tired of hearing anything Hausa"

Is it then yoruba that we are not tired of hearing?

If for any foolish reason Igbos are not on the tickets, then we would rather vote Atiku or any other Northerner than another yoruba. It is greediness and covetousness that will make Tinubu or any other yoruba man to fight for presidency after being there for 16 years cummulatively since 1999.

You yorubas are inconsiderate and selfish, the Hausa you claim we are tired of hearing even has a justifiable claim to the presidency than the yoruba.


Says a 5 percenter.

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Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by juman(m): 11:20am On Dec 22, 2021
His views.
I term it as rubbish.

Osibanjo is apc candidate.
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by AntonVince: 11:27am On Dec 22, 2021
Another SWAGA cum Tinubu-sponsored hogwash.

What exactly does the North you so much hinge your electoral hope on stand to gain from a Tinubu candidacy?
...and so what if the party loses with Tinubu?
I mean how does the APC's post-2023 survival potentially benefit northerners?
The APC is just a political party...a vehicle for God's sake and not a religion!

cheesy grin

With Buhari's ascension in 2015, the party has since achieved the fundamental purpose of its formation which was to oust GEJ and install a northerner.
The Bullion-Van criminal is the only person so desperate for the APC's survival all for his selfish, greed-driven ambition.

Atiku will most likely fly the PDP's ticket in 2023 and will definitely win the north...including most APC-controlled states.
Nobody owes Tinubu nothing!
Re: The Bola Tinubu Dilemma: Does APC Want To Win With Him Or Lose Without Him? by olatuns2017: 11:27am On Dec 22, 2021

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