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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by ariesbull: 11:24pm On Dec 27, 2021
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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by oyatz(m): 4:00am On Dec 28, 2021
Deffjam:
GDFO......am yagba and am proudly Yoruba............... You are just a hypocrite.


Most Yagba and Kabba people that i have seen have never claimed to be anything else.

I think the guy who the OP met ,if he truly met anyone is from Ogori-mangogo because some of them bear Yoruba names but claim not to be Yorubas.
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by oyatz(m): 4:03am On Dec 28, 2021
Slizbeat2:


Not true.
When you hear Yagba, you'll know you are not entirely being truthful. The language is very distinct. The only thing is their association with the Yorubas. They might be classified as a part of the yoroboid group but being considered as Yoruba? Nah.
The Entire Okunland (Yagba West, Yagba East, Kabba-Bunnu, Ijumu) is very distinct


Every group have it's distinct dialect.

A Yoruba man from Ilesha, Ado-Ekiti or Offa doesn't need an interpreter to hear what a Yagba man is saying.
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by oyatz(m): 4:12am On Dec 28, 2021
Bantu10:


Most Yorubas are smart by half. They don't want to recognize the aniomas of delta as igbos, but they want to recognize Okun people of Kogi state as yoruba.

Bros, nobody needs the recognition of others to exist sir.

Everybody know who they are.


Most Yorubas simply call anybody that comes from anywhere after Benin city 'omo-Ibo'.

Most Yorubas in real life don't even know anything called anioma or Ikwerre.

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by oyatz(m): 4:20am On Dec 28, 2021
Bantu10:


Most Yorubas are smart by half. They don't want to recognize the aniomas of delta as igbos, but they want to recognize Okun people of Kogi state as yoruba.

In my candid opinion, every major ethnic group is an amalgamation of several tribes.


The civil war really affect the Igbos and make some tribes not to be comfortable with the igbo tag.

The clamour for Biafra by IPOB had renewed this mentality of these groups to want to point out all things that make them different from Igbo.


If there is sustained peace and prosperity for the next 100 years, certain tribes in southern Nigeria would have merged into one or tribal differences will be very minimal.
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by Temmiey(m): 4:46am On Dec 28, 2021
I dont know what you guys are saying,I am from ijumu local government kogi state,and have never heard of any of my people deny their yoruba ancestry, from our names,language,etc,it's obvious where we belong. Please Google "history of okun people in kogi state".

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by yunqdady: 6:00pm On Dec 28, 2021
oyatz:


Not necessarily sir.


Although most Yorubas in Kogi are proud of their Yoruba identies but there are some groups that may wish to stand alone like some of the Ogori-mangogo people who also have partly Ebira ancenstries, though they bear Yoruba names and speak Yoruba language
Ogori isn't Yoruba nor Okun. They are stand alone. They just bear Yoruba names. They have distinct language too.
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by oyatz(m): 6:07pm On Dec 28, 2021
yunqdady:

Ogori isn't Yoruba nor Okun. They are stand alone. They just bear Yoruba names. They have distinct language too.

Ogori is a mixture of Yoruba +Ebira.

If you go to their group Facebook page, most of them identify as Yorubas. They don't learn Yoruba before speaking the language in addition to their distinct language.

I know one family from Ogori.


The case of Ogori-mangogo illustrate an important point that most commentators on Nairaland often fail to acknowledge; there are always areas of overlap in ethnic homelands.



Kogi State is like a mini-Nigeria with many tribes.

.

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by yunqdady: 6:11pm On Dec 28, 2021
oyatz:


Ogori is a mixture of Yoruba +Ebira.

If you go to their group Facebook page, most of them identify as Yorubas. They don't learn Yoruba before speaking the language in addition to their distinct language.

I know one family from Ogori.


The case of Ogori-mangogo illustrate an important point that most commentators on Nairaland often fail to acknowledge; there are always areas of overlap in ethnic homelands.



Kogi State is like a mini-Nigeria with many tribes.

.
They might have a Yoruba root, and Facebook isn't what you should used in judging.
Nothing Yorubaish about their language called Oko. Even Some Ebira bear Yoruba names, does that make them Yoruba?
Only Okun should be called Yoruba but as an Okun boy who has lived in South West before, I chose not to be called Yoruba cos of the tribalistic nature of Yoruba people. They don't know the difference between Ebira and Okun. To them, anybody from Kogi is Ebira and they say that in a condescending manner like you are inferior.
How is Ebira and Okun the same? No similarity. Yet those uninformed tribalistic bigots would open their dirty mouths to talk down on you like they are better. No matter how horrible or poor they are, they automatically have this energy to feel superior to you. Nonsense.

So why should I associate myself with such stupid people?
I like how Kabba people don't like being called Yoruba. It's Yagba people that you would see claiming Yoruba.
I only fill Yoruba on paper or when I want to avoid explaining.
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by oyatz(m): 6:20pm On Dec 28, 2021
yunqdady:

They might have a Yoruba root, and Facebook isn't what you should used in judging.
Nothing Yorubaish about their language called Oko. Even Some Ebira bear Yoruba names, does that make them Yoruba?
Only Okun should be called Yoruba but as an Okun boy who has lived in South West before, I chose not to be called Yoruba cos of the tribalistic nature of Yoruba people. They don't know the difference between Ebira and Okun. To them, anybody from Kogi is Ebira and they say that in a condescending manner like you are inferior.
How is Ebira and Okun the same? No similarity. Yet those uninformed tribalistic bigots would open their dirty mouths to talk down on you like they are better. No matter how horrible or poor they are, they automatically have this energy to feel superior to you. Nonsense.

So why should I associate myself with such stupid people?
I like how Kabba people don't like being called Yoruba. It's Yagba people that you would see claiming Yoruba.
I only fill Yoruba on paper or when I want to avoid explaining.

I never said anybody should be called Yoruba or anything.


Ethnic Identities are SELF IDENTITIES...we are who we say we are.

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by Cosbyrich: 6:22pm On Dec 28, 2021
yunqdady:

They might have a Yoruba root, and Facebook isn't what you should used in judging.
Nothing Yorubaish about their language called Oko. Even Some Ebira bear Yoruba names, does that make them Yoruba?
Only Okun should be called Yoruba but as an Okun boy who has lived in South West before, I chose not to be called Yoruba cos of the tribalistic nature of Yoruba people. They don't know the difference between Ebira and Okun. To them, anybody from Kogi is Ebira and they say that in a condescending manner like you are inferior.
How is Ebira and Okun the same? No similarity. Yet those uninformed tribalistic bigots would open their dirty mouths to talk down on you like they are better. No matter how horrible or poor they are, they automatically have this energy to feel superior to you. Nonsense.

So why should I associate myself with such stupid people?
I like how Kabba people don't like being called Yoruba. It's Yagba people that you would see claiming Yoruba.
I only fill Yoruba on paper or when I want to avoid explaining.
GO and sit down somewhere jooor.YOU are a plain,bare Osu.
Yorubas even in Brazil or anywhere in the world will always claim to be Yoruba.Yoruba is a proud race.Only ' Fake IGBOS' DENY BEING iGBOS or maybe they are not Igbos.Some have their root in Benin but bear Igbo names.Confusionists grin

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by Cosbyrich: 6:26pm On Dec 28, 2021
Bendeco02:

Calm down Oga.. Even Ijebu in south west deny being yoruba.
grin
That means Awolowo who was a Yorubaman from Ijebu ought not to be Yoruba then. grin
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by juman(m): 6:42pm On Dec 28, 2021
Kogites are minority tribe like us in kwara.
Kogite is a tribe.
Kwaran is a tribe.
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by sirwilly5: 6:44pm On Dec 28, 2021
Cosbyrich:

grin
That means Awolowo who was a Yorubaman from Ijebu ought not to be Yoruba then. grin
Tha
Cosbyrich:

grin
That means Awolowo who was a Yorubaman from Ijebu ought not to be Yoruba then. grin
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Cosbyrich:

grin
That means Awolowo who was a Yorubaman from Ijebu ought not to be Yoruba then. grin
not true, most of the Yoruba people of Kogi proudly claim to be Yoruba.
It's different from the Igbo type.
For the Igbo type, most just have some dialect of Igbo but not full language.

For the Yoruba Kogi, they speak full Yoruba, so why would they deny being Yoruba? If they don't claim Yoruba, which tribe would they proudly claim[/quote
You know nothing of the Yoruba's in Kogi. Their language is total different with little similarity to the Yoruba's of the south west.
The Kabba people speak okun while the Amoro people speak yagba.
Same thing with the Igbo in rivers and delta.
Am from Kaduna pls but a constant traveller.
Thank you
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by juman(m): 6:44pm On Dec 28, 2021
Cosbyrich:

grin
That means Awolowo who was a Yorubaman from Ijebu ought not to be Yoruba then. grin

Awolowo was not ijebu but remo.

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by sirwilly5: 6:47pm On Dec 28, 2021
leksite120:
That's not true, most of the Yoruba people of Kogi proudly claim to be Yoruba.
It's different from the Igbo type.
For the Igbo type, most just have some dialect of Igbo but not full language.

For the Yoruba Kogi, they speak full Yoruba, so why would they deny being Yoruba? If they don't claim Yoruba, which tribe would they proudly claim



You know nothing of the Yoruba's in Kogi. Their language is total different with little similarity to the Yoruba's of the south west.
The Kabba people speak okun while the Amoro people speak yagba.
Same thing with the Igbo in rivers and delta.
Am from Kaduna pls but a constant traveller.
Thank you
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by juman(m): 6:51pm On Dec 28, 2021
sirwilly5:




You know nothing of the Yoruba's in Kogi. Their language is total different with little similarity to the Yoruba's of the south west.
The Kabba people speak okun while the Amoro people speak yagba.
Same thing with the Igbo in rivers and delta.
Am from Kaduna pls but a constant traveller.
Thank you

@Bolded.
You yourself stated that they are yoruba in kogi.
They are yorubas.
They were with us in kwara before.
Together we struggled to get oya state.
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by sirwilly5: 7:07pm On Dec 28, 2021
juman:


@Bolded.
You yourself stated that they are yoruba in kogi.
They are yorubas.
They were with us in kwara before.
Together we struggled to get oya state.
Yea that's very true.
Have never disputed that, all am saying is that let's stop all this no Igbo in delta or rivers, they are just afraid of being marginalized like the others in the south east.
Ameachi says he is Igbo and Emeka Nzeogwu who started all this is also from delta yet same people who say deltas are not Igbo's blame the Igbos for the coup.
We young one are busy fighting ourselves while the old folks who experienced the war are dinning together without any case against themselves

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by juman(m): 7:33pm On Dec 28, 2021
sirwilly5:

Yea that's very true.
Have never disputed that, all am saying is that let's stop all this no Igbo in delta or rivers, they are just afraid of being marginalized like the others in the south east.
Ameachi says he is Igbo and Emeka Nzeogwu who started all this is also from delta yet same people who say deltas are not Igbo's blame the Igbos for the coup.
We young one are busy fighting ourselves while the old folks who experienced the war are dinning together without any case against themselves

You cant force them to be igbos if the say they are not igbo.
Ijebu king said they are not yoruba because he was trying hard to get ijebu state that time.
So we yorubas dont presurize them to be yorubas.
The yorubas are comfortable of their status. They are still south westerners of nigeria.

All human beings are from adam and eve.
We have the same origin.
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by babtoundey(m): 7:36pm On Dec 28, 2021
I served in Lokoja and I never for a second met an Okun person that believes he is not Yoruba. Such thought is difficult and impossible to conceive. What differentiates the Okun Yoruba in Kogi State from the Yorubas in the South West is the geographical location. They speak Yoruba, have Yoruba culture and have in place Yoruba traditional system of government. In fact, they are from Ile-Ife like every other ancient Yoruba Settlements.

An Okun person can relate with you the central Yoruba language while he/she still maintains his distinct Okun dialect. And when he speaks his/her Okun dialect, a Yoruba person from Lagos, Oyo, Osun or Ogun might not be able to grab the meaning of his utterances word for word but he doesn't need a seer to know the language being spoken is nothing but Yoruba and that the person speaking it is of Ondo/Ekiti stock.

The difference is the case with Ogori people. Most of the Ogori people in Kogi state bear Yoruba names. They have culture similar to that of the Yoruba and I even had some parts of them journeyed to their present location from Ile-Ife, the cradle of all Yoruba race. However, Ogori people and their culture have evolved into a distinct ethnic groups. The language is a merger of Yoruba and Ebira. They only share some identities with the Yoruba they are Ogori , a tribe absolutely independent of Yoruba.

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by Cosbyrich: 7:41pm On Dec 28, 2021
juman:


Awolowo is not ijebu but remo.

lol
You are delving into what you dont know anything about.
We have Ijebu Remo,Ijebu Ode,Ijebu waterside ,Ijebu Igbo etc.They are all called Ijebu and they are proud to be Yoruba like Obafemi Awolowo.They have Orikis which all true Yoruba have.Yoruba is the main tribe that has oriki in Nigeria.

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by juman(m): 7:47pm On Dec 28, 2021
Cosbyrich:


lol
You are delving into what you dont know anything about.
We have Ijebu Remo,Ijebu Ode,Ijebu waterside ,Ijebu Igbo etc.They are all called Ijebu and they are proud to be Yoruba like Obafemi Awolowo.They have Orikis which all true Yoruba have.Yoruba is the main tribe that has oriki in Nigeria.

Oba sikiru adetona said ijebu are from sudan, they are not yoruba.
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by yunqdady: 8:26pm On Dec 28, 2021
Cosbyrich:
GO and sit down somewhere jooor.YOU are a plain,bare Osu.
Yorubas even in Brazil or anywhere in the world will always claim to be Yoruba.Yoruba is a proud race.Only ' Fake IGBOS' DENY BEING iGBOS or maybe they are not Igbos.Some have their root in Benin but bear Igbo names.Confusionists grin
Is everything OK at home sir?
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by walefresh3(m): 8:27pm On Dec 28, 2021
YORUBA The largest thnic in Nigeria... Know dis and know peace

History of Jebba City

Jebba is a city in Kwara State, Nigeria.It has incredibly beautiful views of the River Niger and as of 2007 had an estimated population of 22,411.

The town has the benefit of being split into North and South Jebba. South Jebba falling in Kwara State and North in Niger State. It is home to the largest papermill in West Africa, as well as being the proud of home of one of Nigeria’s, three Hydro Electric Damns.

Powering the whole of Nigeria, every day. It has also a monument to Mungo Park, in remembrance of the shipwreck which took place there, while he tried to trace the source of the Niger.

More recently it has taken in 16 new residents in the form of volunteers from Nigeria and the UK. Jebba’s main quality is its mix of Christian and Islamic culture.

Transportation in jebba

Jebba has one main road running through it connecting the North and the South of Nigeria. The train station has a functioning yet in frequent service. The railway station is also home to one of the Mango Park Monuments. The town has a large number of motorbike-taxis.

Hydro Electric Dam in Jebba

Owned and operated the P.H.C.N, it is one only three purpose built damns in Nigeria. It supplies huge amounts of energy to the Nigerian grid as well as giving Jebba twenty-four-hour power. The dam is a beautiful testament to Nigerian productivity with an excellent management team.

They actively support community projects and the town's development. The dam operates with six generators, using the great power of the Niger River to generate enormous amounts of electricity. The artificial lake created by the dam is a gorgeous sight to behold. If you’re ever lucky enough to be invited along for a tour, grab the opportunity with both hands. The site is interesting and a day well spent.

Paper Mill in Jebba

Built and originally owned by Nigerians, the Paper Mill is the largest in West Africa. Sadly due to mismanagement and lack of investment the Paper Mill closed.

It was recently taken over by an Indian Business man and began to function again. Once a provider for so many in the town, which, upon its closer left people jobless and lost. Now as it begins to turn the cogs again, it has hired few local workers but is finally being properly managed.

In its glory days the Paper Mill employed a huge population of the town to function its huge production line.

King of Jebba

Jebba, much like the majority of Nigeria, is a melting pot of culture and tribes. Adebara Dynasty is the Traditional Ruling House in Jebba.The present King remained as the fifth Oba of Jebba.

The First Oba of Jebba was Adebola Adebara who reign between 1865 to 1900.

2nd King was Odaso Adebara (1901-1930),

3rd King was Oba Muhammad Ayoola Adebara (1931-1943),

4th King was (Alh) Oba Ahmadu Akanbi Adebara who lived on the throne for 60 years (1943-2003) and the present and

5th King is Oba (Alh) Abdulkadir Alabi Adebara (2003-date).

The people in Jebba live in harmony, functioning peacefully.

There are Jumaat mosque within and around Jebba metropolis with an appointed Imams. There are also several churches for the Christians.

Tourist sites in Jebba City

General

Jebba is one of the crossing points over the river Niger. It is where the A1 main road and the railway to the north cross the river. Jebba has an important railway station and is of historical importance.

Tourist sites

a. The remains of Baikie’s boat, the ‘Dayspring’. Baikie was sent to Africa to set up trading stations on the Niger his boat, unfortunately foundered on some hidden rocks at jebba on October 7th, 1857. The only remaining relics of the boat are metal items, including the propeller, so it is of limited interest. They are at the railway station besides an old steam engines which would be of interest to children and railway buffs.

b. The Mungo Park and Lander monument, a white obelisk, is on the island in the middle of the river which is spanned by the bridges. To reach it, drive off the northbound bridge to to the right by the police station, turn underneath the bridge to the left and park. Follow the path on foot across the railway line and up to the monument, where you will get a spectacular view. For further reading on Mungo park, Lander and Baikie, see The Story of the Niger – The Strong Brown God by Sanche de Gramont.

c. The Jebba Hydro-electro Dam – on the River Niger, north of jebba. You can see it from the bridge, but it may be possible to visit it, with permission from the NEPA.

d. Juju Rock. This is an outstanding rocky island in the River Niger which can also be clearly seen from the bridge. It is here that some extraordinary Nupe bronze figures, dating from the 15th century, were discovered. The nine Toesede bronzes, from here and from the village of Tada, are the largest cast bronzes ever found in Africa, and six are now in the National museum, Lagos. They have clear affinities with early Ife and Benin bronze-work.

The City i Grow up.

Long live Jebba

Long live Kwara

Long live Nigeria

WALEFRESH3 .....
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by walefresh3(m): 8:29pm On Dec 28, 2021
walefresh3:
YORUBA The largest thnic in Nigeria... Know dis and know peace

History of Jebba City

Jebba is a city in Kwara State, Nigeria.It has incredibly beautiful views of the River Niger and as of 2007 had an estimated population of 22,411.

The town has the benefit of being split into North and South Jebba. South Jebba falling in Kwara State and North in Niger State. It is home to the largest papermill in West Africa, as well as being the proud of home of one of Nigeria’s, three Hydro Electric Damns.

Powering the whole of Nigeria, every day. It has also a monument to Mungo Park, in remembrance of the shipwreck which took place there, while he tried to trace the source of the Niger.

More recently it has taken in 16 new residents in the form of volunteers from Nigeria and the UK. Jebba’s main quality is its mix of Christian and Islamic culture.

Transportation in jebba

Jebba has one main road running through it connecting the North and the South of Nigeria. The train station has a functioning yet in frequent service. The railway station is also home to one of the Mango Park Monuments. The town has a large number of motorbike-taxis.

Hydro Electric Dam in Jebba

Owned and operated the P.H.C.N, it is one only three purpose built damns in Nigeria. It supplies huge amounts of energy to the Nigerian grid as well as giving Jebba twenty-four-hour power. The dam is a beautiful testament to Nigerian productivity with an excellent management team.

They actively support community projects and the town's development. The dam operates with six generators, using the great power of the Niger River to generate enormous amounts of electricity. The artificial lake created by the dam is a gorgeous sight to behold. If you’re ever lucky enough to be invited along for a tour, grab the opportunity with both hands. The site is interesting and a day well spent.

Paper Mill in Jebba

Built and originally owned by Nigerians, the Paper Mill is the largest in West Africa. Sadly due to mismanagement and lack of investment the Paper Mill closed.

It was recently taken over by an Indian Business man and began to function again. Once a provider for so many in the town, which, upon its closer left people jobless and lost. Now as it begins to turn the cogs again, it has hired few local workers but is finally being properly managed.

In its glory days the Paper Mill employed a huge population of the town to function its huge production line.

King of Jebba

Jebba, much like the majority of Nigeria, is a melting pot of culture and tribes. Adebara Dynasty is the Traditional Ruling House in Jebba.The present King remained as the fifth Oba of Jebba.

The First Oba of Jebba was Adebola Adebara who reign between 1865 to 1900.

2nd King was Odaso Adebara (1901-1930),

3rd King was Oba Muhammad Ayoola Adebara (1931-1943),

4th King was (Alh) Oba Ahmadu Akanbi Adebara who lived on the throne for 60 years (1943-2003) and the present and

5th King is Oba (Alh) Abdulkadir Alabi Adebara (2003-date).

The people in Jebba live in harmony, functioning peacefully.

There are Jumaat mosque within and around Jebba metropolis with an appointed Imams. There are also several churches for the Christians.

Tourist sites in Jebba City

General

Jebba is one of the crossing points over the river Niger. It is where the A1 main road and the railway to the north cross the river. Jebba has an important railway station and is of historical importance.

Tourist sites

a. The remains of Baikie’s boat, the ‘Dayspring’. Baikie was sent to Africa to set up trading stations on the Niger his boat, unfortunately foundered on some hidden rocks at jebba on October 7th, 1857. The only remaining relics of the boat are metal items, including the propeller, so it is of limited interest. They are at the railway station besides an old steam engines which would be of interest to children and railway buffs.

b. The Mungo Park and Lander monument, a white obelisk, is on the island in the middle of the river which is spanned by the bridges. To reach it, drive off the northbound bridge to to the right by the police station, turn underneath the bridge to the left and park. Follow the path on foot across the railway line and up to the monument, where you will get a spectacular view. For further reading on Mungo park, Lander and Baikie, see The Story of the Niger – The Strong Brown God by Sanche de Gramont.

c. The Jebba Hydro-electro Dam – on the River Niger, north of jebba. You can see it from the bridge, but it may be possible to visit it, with permission from the NEPA.

d. Juju Rock. This is an outstanding rocky island in the River Niger which can also be clearly seen from the bridge. It is here that some extraordinary Nupe bronze figures, dating from the 15th century, were discovered. The nine Toesede bronzes, from here and from the village of Tada, are the largest cast bronzes ever found in Africa, and six are now in the National museum, Lagos. They have clear affinities with early Ife and Benin bronze-work.

The City i Grow up.

Long live Jebba

Long live Kwara

Long live Nigeria

WALEFRESH3 .....

If you look at your map of Nigeria, the Yoruba occupies the geographical SW of Nigeria with northern boundaries in at Lokoja and Jebba the two crossing points to the north of River Niger.

However, the British Empire , for her political convenience decided to extend the North across River Niger down SW an attempt to weaken the South against the North.

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by walefresh3(m): 8:35pm On Dec 28, 2021
sirwilly5:




You know nothing of the Yoruba's in Kogi. Their language is total different with little similarity to the Yoruba's of the south west.
The Kabba people speak okun while the Amoro people speak yagba.
Same thing with the Igbo in rivers and delta.
Am from Kaduna pls but a constant traveller.
Thank you
bro thier is nothing different .. it is the same thing every where..okun have thier own Avent in speaking of Yoruba while other Yorubas also do....
You don't understand anything about the language.. you are being misguided by Lagos midemide Yoruba wey u dey hear every day.... If I speak ijebu to u ... Will u be able to understand ?
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by nisai: 9:59pm On Dec 28, 2021
juman:


Awolowo is not ijebu but remo.
You mean you know Awo much more than he knew himself? Clown.

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by ariesbull: 12:05pm On Dec 30, 2021
yunqdady:

They might have a Yoruba root, and Facebook isn't what you should used in judging.
Nothing Yorubaish about their language called Oko. Even Some Ebira bear Yoruba names, does that make them Yoruba?
Only Okun should be called Yoruba but as an Okun boy who has lived in South West before, I chose not to be called Yoruba cos of the tribalistic nature of Yoruba people. They don't know the difference between Ebira and Okun. To them, anybody from Kogi is Ebira and they say that in a condescending manner like you are inferior.
How is Ebira and Okun the same? No similarity. Yet those uninformed tribalistic bigots would open their dirty mouths to talk down on you like they are better. No matter how horrible or poor they are, they automatically have this energy to feel superior to you. Nonsense.

So why should I associate myself with such stupid people?
I like how Kabba people don't like being called Yoruba. It's Yagba people that you would see claiming Yoruba.
I only fill Yoruba on paper or when I want to avoid explaining.

You are right... I know many Okun that will not like to be called yoruba just like the Ilaje, the Akoko and even some Ijebu... They don't like the tag yoruba

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Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by ariesbull: 12:08pm On Dec 30, 2021
sirwilly5:




You know nothing of the Yoruba's in Kogi. Their language is total different with little similarity to the Yoruba's of the south west.
The Kabba people speak okun while the Amoro people speak yagba.
Same thing with the Igbo in rivers and delta.
Am from Kaduna pls but a constant traveller.
Thank you

No...


Igbo spoken in rivers such as Etche is same with Imo igbo areas of Ohaji and Mgbirichi

Igbo spoken in delta like Asaba, ibuzor and ogwashi with Illah are exactly same with Anambra

Ika or Agbor has so many similarity with owerri

While Ukwuani in Delta and Oguta in Imo are exactly the same igbo
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by yunqdady: 2:29pm On Dec 30, 2021
sirwilly5:




You know nothing of the Yoruba's in Kogi. Their language is total different with little similarity to the Yoruba's of the south west.
The Kabba people speak okun while the Amoro people speak yagba.
Same thing with the Igbo in rivers and delta.
Am from Kaduna pls but a constant traveller.
Thank you
You are wrong. There's nothing like Okun language. Okun identity is just an artificial construct. Okun means strength, and it's a form of greeting here. So they call us all Okun. Well, no problem with that but each town have their distinct(Okun) language.
Kabba speaks Owe. Yagba people will struggle to understand this. Northern Ekiti people understand this though.
I don't know what Ijumu people speak, they share boundaries with Ondo.
The remaining 3 local government areas speak Yagba, boundaries with Ekiti/Kwara .
Even yagba sef is not a single language cos every town in the 3 Yagba LGA has their own slightly different language but the beauty is that you can understand one another if you are from one part.
Just like how Lagos pidgin is different from Benin or warri pidgin but still same pidgin.
Same as Yagba.
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by Greenback: 2:32pm On Dec 30, 2021
IamWonderful:
Stop being mischievous and been filled with hatred, it wouldn't lead you anywhere good.



I am sure you are igbo Catholics when igbo Jews led by kanu nnamadi are busy wrecking havoc everywhere in the south east.
If you yourself are not filled with hate,why bring the igbos into your frustrations?
Re: I Am Not Yoruba I Am Kogi: this Thing Is Everywhere. by yunqdady: 2:33pm On Dec 30, 2021
babtoundey:
I served in Lokoja and I never for a second met an Okun person that believes he is not Yoruba. Such thought is difficult and impossible to conceive. What differentiates the Okun Yoruba in Kogi State from the Yorubas in the South West is the geographical location. They speak Yoruba, have Yoruba culture and have in place Yoruba traditional system of government. In fact, they are from Ile-Ife like every other ancient Yoruba Settlements.

An Okun person can relate with you the central Yoruba language while he/she still maintains his distinct Okun dialect. And when he speaks his/her Okun dialect, a Yoruba person from Lagos, Oyo, Osun or Ogun might not be able to grab the meaning of his utterances word for word but he doesn't need a seer to know the language being spoken is nothing but Yoruba and that the person speaking it is of Ondo/Ekiti stock.

The difference is the case with Ogori people. Most of the Ogori people in Kogi state bear Yoruba names. They have culture similar to that of the Yoruba and I even had some parts of them journeyed to their present location from Ile-Ife, the cradle of all Yoruba race. However, Ogori people and their culture have evolved into a distinct ethnic groups. The language is a merger of Yoruba and Ebira. They only share some identities with the Yoruba they are Ogori , a tribe absolutely independent of Yoruba.
Ignorant yoruba people that have never stepped out of their brown root huts in their villages said we are not yoruba. Therefore we can't force ourselves to be what we are not. . We are Okun. We are not Yoruba. Nonsense

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