₦airaland Forum

festacman:
People get overly emotional and even hypocritical over this issue because a police officer is involved.

1. The Commissioner of Police Odumosu didn't need to give advance information of his coming to the Estate security men because it would be stupid to for him state his movement. Of course, giving such information would require the CP's security details to secure the Estate gate security until he arrives.

2. On arrival at the Estate gate and having PROPERLY identified himself as CP of Lagos State, he ought to have been allowed in immediately. Keeping him at the gate is unnecessarily exposing him to possible attack by criminals. Even a military formation would know better than keep a properly identified CP exposed to danger at its entry point.

3. CP Odumosu didn't need to tell the Estate security men the exact house he was going to before being allowed in. That's a classified information until his details secures the house for his safety.

4. Deliberately tagging the CP's visit as social to denigrate him is pure IGNORANCE because even a 'common' DPO is always listening to his radio equipment and giving directives anywhere he is. The fact is that when not on official leave, a CP is at work everywhere and every time.

5. I doubt if the police singled out that widow for arrest for nothing. She may have jumped into the matter and said unsavoury things. Being a resident in an Estate, I am familiar with some 'radical' busybody residents that would jump into issues without complete knowledge.

6. The truth is this incident was avoidable if only the Estate security was more professional and less power-conscious. Their unprofessional attitude activated power-tussle mode in the OFFICIAL state police force to show their constitutional superiority. The irony in this drama is that when armed criminals show up at the Estate, it is the official state police men that are called in to risk their lives.

7. By the way, is an estate which has individually-owned houses a private property or a community? If Magodo Brooks is NOT owned and rented out by one person as its private owner, is there any difference between this Estate and for example Ajegunle in the eyes of the law?

8. Yes, Nigeria police has many outright criminals as members but it is still the only one we have to enforce law and order and maintain security.

Oga stop this rubbish .. did u see where they said they where trying to give him directions to where he is going .... Besides why did he arrest a woman with 3 kids ... You no get talk

JohnBullMySon:
It is not a crime to prevent an officer without a warrant from entering a privately owned property when not in any official assignment or responding to crime. Know your rights.

An estate is a not private property Mr sabinus and secondly,even if it's a private property provided there is reasonable grounds of suspicion that a crime is been committed,d police can still come in....The powers of d police are very enormous if u don't know...Go get d police act and see for ursef

DelTel:
Ignorance is bliss

Odumosu is retired (yesterday)

thank God he won't be able to extend his tyranny all over Nigeria. We meuuve

Doubleoh7:
I don't need to be there in order for me to use my brain and not swallow hook, line and sinker, a press release from our 'friendly' police force. In traffic, even the ones that are attached to normal VIPs come down to harass road users to make way for their principal to pass and here our 'almighty ' lagos CP was kept at a gate for 30mins, with him and his details introducing themselves to private security guards. Yeye dey smell

Ok u just assumed he was lying cos u hate d police right??

iokpebholo:
An estate is a not private property Mr sabinus and secondly,even if it's a private property provided there is reasonable grounds of suspicion that a crime is been committed,d police can still come in....The powers of d police are very enormous if u don't know...Go get d police act and see for ursef

It must be with warrants, please go and learn

ikennamadu1:
Oga stop this rubbish .. did u see where they said they where trying to give him directions to where he is going .... Besides why did he arrest a woman with 3 kids ... You no get talk

They will always say things to justify their actions.The private security guards need some lessons.

iokpebholo:
They will always say things to justify their actions.The private security guards need some lessons.

You like defending injustice.

At this point, the executives, members of the estate security committee, the estate CSO and some residents had converged at the estate gate to plead with the commissioner on his way out with the hope that his anger would have subsided after enjoying the party.
To our amazement, the commissioner came down from the car on his way out, said he was insulted by our estate and further instructed that the remaining security operatives who replaced the arrested ones should also be arrested.

“This resulted in complete shutdown of the estate as no one could go in or come out as our estate gate is automated and the operatives with the access token were all arrested with the token. This further resulted in the traffic jam that occurred on CMD Road for over 4hrs.

“Pleas from different angles were made to the Commissioner with no yield until about 11 pm when he finally gave in. The estate was finally able to bail the security operatives who were already put in cell, the resident with her children who were put behind the counter at about 11:30pm.”

I used to think Hakeem Odumosu was one of Nigeria's professional officers. So what should i be expecting from a corporal?

Sometimes you let some things slide. Once they put on that evil uniform.

debetmx:
I used to think Hakeem Odumosu was one of Nigeria's professional officers. So what should i be expecting from a corporal?

Sometimes you let some things slide. Once they put on that evil uniform.

Police will always be police.
Kosi ba se le se ebolo ti ko ni rungbe

iwaeda:
Police will always be police.
Kosi ba se le se ebolo ti ko ni rungbe

Can you interpret please?

iokpebholo:
An estate is a not private property Mr sabinus and secondly,even if it's a private property provided there is reasonable grounds of suspicion that a crime is been committed,d police can still come in....The powers of d police are very enormous if u don't know...Go get d police act and see for ursef

Read my previous comments sir

JohnBullMySon:
It is. Most estates are legally co owned private property. They are not like your regular street. That's why you can be prevented from entering.

Yes they are co owned by private individuals and that makes it a bit of public... take for instance... private company stock traded on Nigerian stock exchange. It is controlled and regulated by government, the companies are also regulated by government. Just the way CBN can decide on the chairman of a bank. So you see, even though they are private, government gets involved.

Another scenario, if police is chasing after criminals, so the security at magodo gate will be asking stupid questions and delay them for 30min?

Lastly the silly security guard disrespected the office of lagos top security chief, that's unacceptable. The security they claim to be doing doesn't get higher than the commission of police.

Cc: Daboomb

getemail:
Yes they are co owned by private individuals and that makes it a bit of public... take for instance... private company stock traded on Nigerian stock exchange. It is controlled and regulated by government, the companies are also regulated by government. Just the way CBN can decide on the chairman of a bank. So you see, even though they are private, government gets involved.

Another scenario, if police is chasing after criminals, so the security at magodo gate will be asking stupid questions and delay them for 30min?

Lastly the silly security guard disrespected the office of lagos top security chief, that's unacceptable. The security they claim to be doing doesn't get higher than the commission of police.

If you read my previous comments, you'll get all the answers you need. I was talking about unofficial duties such as attending a party. Besides public lands means lands owned by government, such as roads, streets, public spaces and government buildings.

iwaeda:
It must be with warrants, please go and learn

learn what Meaccess road to any estate is still a public property hence no need for warrant s.....D private security guards were simply overzealous......It's constitutional,d CP is d head of all internal security of a state and cannot be stopped by a private security guards

You got it

Cuz if not, why on earth will that Tinubu wanna be President still after all his achievement and wealth

iwaeda:
Nigeria is all about POWER, nothing else

He should know he will be an ordinary citizen when he eventually retires, his actions does not speak well of the office he occupies.

Na season film...

Do you know me? Do you know me? Kia, I sorry for we the masses...

JohnBullMySon:
I like the fact that you try to be objective but still your points are very biased and obviously trying to justify the police.

Firstly, you should know that hotel and estate security don't joke with unauthorized entry. They get sacked and can enter jail due to a resulting crime. Hotel security once prevented DSS from arresting Suleiman till Fayose came to intervene. That is stupid bravery though considering the power these agencies have officially and unofficially.

Secondly estate is shared private property not public ground as the police is claiming. Any policeman without a warrant as well as military officer not on official assignment has no right to enter anyone's private property without informing the owners. That's why the estate is making it clear that he came for a social function.

Lastly I know the estate too is lying by saying that they were assisting him. That's a big lie because that wouldn't lead to any arrest. The security men were likely preventing him because he did not disclose his intentions to them. But legally they're right.

So whether you look at it emotionally or objectively. The Policeman is very wrong here. Estate is private property not public space.

Thank you!

As long as he is not on an official assignment sanctioned by his boss or the federal government, he will bend to the rules of wherever he finds himself.

Even in a sanctioned visit(such as an arrest), they still need a court permit AKA warrant to gain access to private property.

I know for sure it’s just power play and ego trip on the side of the police officer. I know estates that they have to place a phone call for the resident to confirm that indeed, the person at the gate is there for said resident and considering the facts on ground, they security men just wanted to know who he is visiting so they can place a security call as is due process.

There is no love lost between civilians and the Nigerian politics but I will still call a spade, a spade. Hakeem Odumosu abused power.

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Endsars spirit still pushing him

festacman:
People get overly emotional and even hypocritical over this issue because a police officer is involved.

1. The Commissioner of Police Odumosu didn't need to give advance information of his coming to the Estate security men because it would be stupid to for him state his movement. Of course, giving such information would require the CP's security details to secure the Estate gate security until he arrives.

2. On arrival at the Estate gate and having PROPERLY identified himself as CP of Lagos State, he ought to have been allowed in immediately. Keeping him at the gate is unnecessarily exposing him to possible attack by criminals. Even a military formation would know better than keep a properly identified CP exposed to danger at its entry point.

3. CP Odumosu didn't need to tell the Estate security men the exact house he was going to before being allowed in. That's a classified information until his details secures the house for his safety.

4. Deliberately tagging the CP's visit as social to denigrate him is pure IGNORANCE because even a 'common' DPO is always listening to his radio equipment and giving directives anywhere he is. The fact is that when not on official leave, a CP is at work everywhere and every time.

5. I doubt if the police singled out that widow for arrest for nothing. She may have jumped into the matter and said unsavoury things. Being a resident in an Estate, I am familiar with some 'radical' busybody residents that would jump into issues without complete knowledge.

6. The truth is this incident was avoidable if only the Estate security was more professional and less power-conscious. Their unprofessional attitude activated power-tussle mode in the OFFICIAL state police force to show their constitutional superiority. The irony in this drama is that when armed criminals show up at the Estate, it is the official state police men that are called in to risk their lives.

7. By the way, is an estate which has individually-owned houses a private property or a community? If Magodo Brooks is NOT owned and rented out by one person as its private owner, is there any difference between this Estate and for example Ajegunle in the eyes of the law?

8. Yes, Nigeria police has many outright criminals as members but it is still the only one we have to enforce law and order and maintain security.

Good evening sir. It shall not be well with you sir.

festacman:
People get overly emotional and even hypocritical over this issue because a police officer is involved.

1. The Commissioner of Police Odumosu didn't need to give advance information of his coming to the Estate security men because it would be stupid to for him state his movement. Of course, giving such information would require the CP's security details to secure the Estate gate security until he arrives.

2. On arrival at the Estate gate and having PROPERLY identified himself as CP of Lagos State, he ought to have been allowed in immediately. Keeping him at the gate is unnecessarily exposing him to possible attack by criminals. Even a military formation would know better than keep a properly identified CP exposed to danger at its entry point.

3. CP Odumosu didn't need to tell the Estate security men the exact house he was going to before being allowed in. That's a classified information until his details secures the house for his safety.

4. Deliberately tagging the CP's visit as social to denigrate him is pure IGNORANCE because even a 'common' DPO is always listening to his radio equipment and giving directives anywhere he is. The fact is that when not on official leave, a CP is at work everywhere and every time.

5. I doubt if the police singled out that widow for arrest for nothing. She may have jumped into the matter and said unsavoury things. Being a resident in an Estate, I am familiar with some 'radical' busybody residents that would jump into issues without complete knowledge.

6. The truth is this incident was avoidable if only the Estate security was more professional and less power-conscious. Their unprofessional attitude activated power-tussle mode in the OFFICIAL state police force to show their constitutional superiority. The irony in this drama is that when armed criminals show up at the Estate, it is the official state police men that are called in to risk their lives.

7. By the way, is an estate which has individually-owned houses a private property or a community? If Magodo Brooks is NOT owned and rented out by one person as its private owner, is there any difference between this Estate and for example Ajegunle in the eyes of the law?

8. Yes, Nigeria police has many outright criminals as members but it is still the only one we have to enforce law and order and maintain security.

With all u have said, how does justify the arrest of the security men of d estate and the widow and her 3 kids?

resident who happens to be a widow that was passing by with her three children was also ordered to be arrested alongside her 3 children by the commissioner of police. Her offense was that she tried to intervene to understand the situation....

Just imagine, who send her? She is now intervening in matters concerning the CP, Nigerians you too dey look down on your leaders. On a devt country he just need to identify his self as CP that's all no need of ID verification or any rubbish, you people are having a civilian dumb brain that's y

festacman:
People get overly emotional and even hypocritical over this issue because a police officer is involved.

1. The Commissioner of Police Odumosu didn't need to give advance information of his coming to the Estate security men because it would be stupid to for him state his movement. Of course, giving such information would require the CP's security details to secure the Estate gate security until he arrives.

2. On arrival at the Estate gate and having PROPERLY identified himself as CP of Lagos State, he ought to have been allowed in immediately. Keeping him at the gate is unnecessarily exposing him to possible attack by criminals. Even a military formation would know better than keep a properly identified CP exposed to danger at its entry point.

3. CP Odumosu didn't need to tell the Estate security men the exact house he was going to before being allowed in. That's a classified information until his details secures the house for his safety.

4. Deliberately tagging the CP's visit as social to denigrate him is pure IGNORANCE because even a 'common' DPO is always listening to his radio equipment and giving directives anywhere he is. The fact is that when not on official leave, a CP is at work everywhere and every time.

5. I doubt if the police singled out that widow for arrest for nothing. She may have jumped into the matter and said unsavoury things. Being a resident in an Estate, I am familiar with some 'radical' busybody residents that would jump into issues without complete knowledge.

6. The truth is this incident was avoidable if only the Estate security was more professional and less power-conscious. Their unprofessional attitude activated power-tussle mode in the OFFICIAL state police force to show their constitutional superiority. The irony in this drama is that when armed criminals show up at the Estate, it is the official state police men that are called in to risk their lives.

7. By the way, is an estate which has individually-owned houses a private property or a community? If Magodo Brooks is NOT owned and rented out by one person as its private owner, is there any difference between this Estate and for example Ajegunle in the eyes of the law?

8. Yes, Nigeria police has many outright criminals as members but it is still the only one we have to enforce law and order and maintain security.

Nice peace

iokpebholo:
Let's not jump into conclusion...Nigerians are d most pretentious set of ppl in d world.....They go about misbehaving and when caught dey will start forming innocent and shedding crocodile tears...Those estate security deserve what dey got cos it's a crime on its own restricting a public officer

How is it a crime restricting a public officer? Can u pls quote the law that says so?

any security outfit obstructing movement on a public road, that is not the police is illegal.

DelTel:
Thank you for calling me ignorant

So why do the estate pay Land Use Charge to Govt if the estate abi your so-called administrators owns the land

Most road in Magodo were constructed by LASG

Land is owned by govt and assigned to people for usage for a period, usually 100 years

Get proper education please

PS: CofO is certificate of occupancy, which means govt authorized an individual or entity to OCCUPY for a certain period, can someone who doesn't own something give you Certificate to OCCUPY

This is why they will scam and abuse your human rights in this country.

They are correcting you, rather than go and dig deep and research, you’re still here arguing blindly.

Nigerians ehn

bafsonbaf:
resident who happens to be a widow that was passing by with her three children was also ordered to be arrested alongside her 3 children by the commissioner of police. Her offense was that she tried to intervene to understand the situation....

Just imagine, who send her? She is now intervening in matters concerning the CP, Nigerians you too dey look down on your leaders. On a devt country he just need to identify his self as CP that's all no need of ID verification or any rubbish, you people are having a civilian dumb brain that's y

What's wrong if she intervenes in a matter concerning the CP? What law did she break by so doing?

In which "devt country" are you referring to?

Oga CP you mean you ordered detaining of a minor Is that how to lead by example oga CP

Pls ASAP do the correction.

iwaeda:
https://punchng.com/detained-security-guards-widow-didnt-deny-cp-entry-lagos-estate-tackles-police-boss/

Show of Shame. The commissioner would have been suspended by now If we were in a sane society

JohnBullMySon:
A lot goes on behind the scenes in sourcing money for road construction. But usually roads inside estates are not public roads. I have stayed over 1 hour outside Sunnyvale Abuja, just because they couldn't contact the guy I was going to see.

Why are you still arguing?

There is no redemption for the ignorant.


The person you’re arguing with has probably never bought a home or landed properly in his life nor has he visited a property highbrow residency.

We have read the two sides of the story but we suspect lies from the other side.

I think we should just let go since nobody can get justice knowing very well that every servant (Civil Servant) in Nigeria are a lord who is above the law.

It's only Karma that will handle this case fairly.