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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Daboomb: 10:30pm On Jan 03, 2022
Adekdammy:
There was once a Tafa Balogun


Dont mind him.
And even that CP that was deployed to Lagos, from Rivers, by the Jonathan Administration just before the election in 2015 and he said he has ordered his men to shoot Lagosians at will....
Today, no one even remember his useless name, grin grin he is confined to the dustbin of history.
Power is transient
, but these CP's cant get that simple fact into their brain.

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Anny4me: 10:31pm On Jan 03, 2022
iwaeda:


https://punchng.com/detained-security-guards-widow-didnt-deny-cp-entry-lagos-estate-tackles-police-boss/
misplaced priority that's how a typical African clown will be showing of as if he or she is God. Nor worry time will tell on d CP also
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by BabaO2: 10:35pm On Jan 03, 2022
Sunday2021:
try and get the full story before making a comment. You have heard from the estate management, pls try and hear from the police before making your judgement.
estate executives can't lie, if they are wrong they will surely own up and apologize.
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by kingdenny(m): 10:35pm On Jan 03, 2022
festacman:
People get overly emotional and even hypocritical over this issue because a police officer is involved.

1. The Commissioner of Police Odumosu didn't need to give advance information of his coming to the Estate security men because it would be stupid to for him state his movement. Of course, giving such information would require the CP's security details to secure the Estate gate security until he arrives.

2. On arrival at the Estate gate and having PROPERLY identified himself as CP of Lagos State, he ought to have been allowed in immediately. Keeping him at the gate is unnecessarily exposing him to possible attack by criminals. Even a military formation would know better than keep a properly identified CP exposed to danger at its entry point.

3. CP Odumosu didn't need to tell the Estate security men the exact house he was going to before being allowed in. That's a classified information until his details secures the house for his safety.

4. Deliberately tagging the CP's visit as social to denigrate him is pure IGNORANCE because even a 'common' DPO is always listening to his radio equipment and giving directives anywhere he is. The fact is that when not on official leave, a CP is at work everywhere and every time.

5. I doubt if the police singled out that widow for arrest for nothing. She may have jumped into the matter and said unsavoury things. Being a resident in an Estate, I am familiar with some 'radical' busybody residents that would jump into issues without complete knowledge.

6. The truth is this incident was avoidable if only the Estate security was more professional and less power-conscious. Their unprofessional attitude activated power-tussle mode in the OFFICIAL state police force to show their constitutional superiority. The irony in this drama is that when armed criminals show up at the Estate, it is the official state police men that are called in to risk their lives.

7. By the way, is an estate which has individually-owned houses a private property or a community? If Magodo Brooks is NOT owned and rented out by one person as its private owner, is there any difference between this Estate and for example Ajegunle in the eyes of the law?

8. Yes, Nigeria police has many outright criminals as members but it is still the only one we have to enforce law and order and maintain security.

Typical show of power by the Nigeria police, why were the second sect of security guard that replaced the former also arrested?
You must have close ties with a police officer cos obviously your points raised are not well balanced

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by walexbiz(m): 10:35pm On Jan 03, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
I like the fact that you try to be objective but still your points are very biased and obviously trying to justify the police.

Firstly, you should know that hotel and estate security don't joke with unauthorized entry. They get sacked and can enter jail due to a resulting crime. Hotel security once prevented DSS from arresting Suleiman till Fayose came to intervene. That is stupid bravery though considering the power these agencies have officially and unofficially.

Secondly estate is shared private property not public ground as the police is claiming. Any policeman without a warrant as well as military officer not on official assignment has no right to enter anyone's private property without informing the owners. That's why the estate is making it clear that he came for a social function.

Lastly I know the estate too is lying by saying that they were assisting him. That's a big lie because that wouldn't lead to any arrest. The security men were likely preventing him because he did not disclose his intentions to them. But legally they're right.

So whether you look at it emotionally or objectively. The Policeman is very wrong here. Estate is private property not public space.

Let's get some things right, it's individual building that are private property, the estate roads, electric infrastructure are property of the state, that automatically gives security agent the right to be accessed. Sometimes most of this security guards obey their paymasters as against constituted authority which isn't right. Also the CP should have temper down considering that he is dealing with members of the public who are Taxpayers and I guess that widow must have said something to infuriate the CP that's why he must have locked her and kids up which obviously isn't right.

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by TheGift: 10:36pm On Jan 03, 2022
madmohamed:
the useless police think commissioner of police is where it end

He think police is his father's property
May God handle that man the way he handle the security man
I play to Almighty God his wife will soon be a widow


If that idiot can lock children in cell may God punish him

Please, where did you read that children were locked in the cell.
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by RichDad1(m): 10:36pm On Jan 03, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
I like the fact that you try to be objective but still your points are very biased and obviously trying to justify the police.

Firstly, you should know that hotel and estate security don't joke with unauthorized entry. They get sacked and can enter jail due to a resulting crime. Hotel security once prevented DSS from arresting Suleiman till Fayose came to intervene. That is stupid bravery though considering the power these agencies have officially and unofficially.

Secondly estate is shared private property not public ground as the police is claiming. Any policeman without a warrant as well as military officer not on official assignment has no right to enter anyone's private property without informing the owners. That's why the estate is making it clear that he came for a social function.

Lastly I know the estate too is lying by saying that they were assisting him. That's a big lie because that wouldn't lead to any arrest. The security men were likely preventing him because he did not disclose his intentions to them. But legally they're right.

So whether you look at it emotionally or objectively. The Policeman is very wrong here. Estate is private property not public space.
You lied about the bolder. Perhaps you don’t know the said Estate. The Lagos fix all the infrastructures in the estate (roads, drainages and lights) therefore it’s not a private property.
As far as Lagos state is concerned, the CP can go into any Estates without any prior notifications.
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by GrandMasters: 10:37pm On Jan 03, 2022
kingdenny:


Typical show of power by the Nigeria police, why were the second sect of security guard that replaced the former also arrested?
You must have close ties with a police officer cos obviously your points raised are not well balanced
he's a police image dry cleaner
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by luluman: 10:38pm On Jan 03, 2022
festacman:
People get overly emotional and even hypocritical over this issue because a police officer is involved.

1. The Commissioner of Police Odumosu didn't need to give advance information of his coming to the Estate security men because it would be stupid to for him state his movement. Of course, giving such information would require the CP's security details to secure the Estate gate security until he arrives.

2. On arrival at the Estate gate and having PROPERLY identified himself as CP of Lagos State, he ought to have been allowed in immediately. Keeping him at the gate is unnecessarily exposing him to possible attack by criminals. Even a military formation would know better than keep a properly identified CP exposed to danger at its entry point.

3. CP Odumosu didn't need to tell the Estate security men the exact house he was going to before being allowed in. That's a classified information until his details secures the house for his safety.

4. Deliberately tagging the CP's visit as social to denigrate him is pure IGNORANCE because even a 'common' DPO is always listening to his radio equipment and giving directives anywhere he is. The fact is that when not on official leave, a CP is at work everywhere and every time.

5. I doubt if the police singled out that widow for arrest for nothing. She may have jumped into the matter and said unsavoury things. Being a resident in an Estate, I am familiar with some 'radical' busybody residents that would jump into issues without complete knowledge.

6. The truth is this incident was avoidable if only the Estate security was more professional and less power-conscious. Their unprofessional attitude activated power-tussle mode in the OFFICIAL state police force to show their constitutional superiority. The irony in this drama is that when armed criminals show up at the Estate, it is the official state police men that are called in to risk their lives.

7. By the way, is an estate which has individually-owned houses a private property or a community? If Magodo Brooks is NOT owned and rented out by one person as its private owner, is there any difference between this Estate and for example Ajegunle in the eyes of the law?

8. Yes, Nigeria police has many outright criminals as members but it is still the only one we have to enforce law and order and maintain security.
I beg go sidon. Is it then professional to then arrest the set of security men that went to replace those initially arrested? Mr Chief justice better think straight if the first set offended him what had the second set done? You come here coms judge wetin no concern you.

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Daboomb: 10:39pm On Jan 03, 2022
getemail:


The estate is not a private property. And the security at the gate aired.

It is a Private Property, in as much as it is not a Public Property!
You seem to be mixing up an "individual" property, with "private" property!
grin

Individuals can own Private Property and when in large numbers, it is still a Private Property held by many individuals.
And the fact that they have an "Association of Residents", makes it even more a Collective private property.

Compare that to a property owned by the Govt, on behalf of the PUBLIC, (Police Station, Ministries, Ports, etc).

CP cannot claim any Right when on Social visit to a Private Estate and he should be ashamed of claiming "embarrassment", using his official position on a Social trip for an owambe party.

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by hopexter(m): 10:40pm On Jan 03, 2022
iokpebholo:
Let's not jump into conclusion...Nigerians are d most pretentious set of ppl in d world.....They go about misbehaving and when caught dey will start forming innocent and shedding crocodile tears...Those estate security deserve what dey got cos it's a crime on its own restricting a public officer


If you live in Lagos, you would know the atrocities these police officers commit In Lagos, especially on posh estates these days, breaking into houses and making illegal arrests without warrants. They are all spies and criminals so the estates understand them and now tightening their securities for the safety of their rich tenants. Who no go like live for this kind of Estates. grin grin
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by lexy2014: 10:42pm On Jan 03, 2022
MuchAdo:


How dare you stop a commissioner of police

U haven't answered d question:

What's wrong with stopping a commissioner of police?

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by lexy2014: 10:43pm On Jan 03, 2022
nedekid:

Hmm. It just like asking what was wrong with the shittes stopping the passage of the former coas buratai on the road.
Unfortunately we all know how it ended.

Still doesn't answer d question:

What's wrong with stopping a commissioner of police?

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Daboomb: 10:43pm On Jan 03, 2022
walexbiz:


Let's get some things right, it's individual building that are private property, the estate roads, electric infrastructure are property of the state, that automatically gives security agent the right to be accessed. Sometimes most of this security guards obey their paymasters as against constituted authority which isn't right. Also the CP should have temper down considering that he is dealing with members of the public who are Taxpayers and I guess that widow must have said something to infuriate the CP that's why he must have locked her and kids up which obviously isn't right.

If a whole CP, with all his training, can be worked-up to the point of abusing his power, by mere WORDS, then he is not worth the "C' in that rank!
Controlling your temper and staying in Control of your emotions, is one of the first thing a real Policeman should have been taught.

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by lexy2014: 10:44pm On Jan 03, 2022
nedekid:


https://www.nairaland.com/6921305/lagos-police-confirm-arrest-magodo

"the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria provides for freedom of movement. The police in particular are statutorily permitted to enter any public place at any time. The Brooks Estate is a public place and the roads leading into it are highways and as such, no one has the power to prevent police officers in uniform from entering the Estate or any such public places.

The internal security arrangements of the estates and other public places nonetheless, the statutory powers of the police to have unfettered access to public places must be acknowledged and respected.

Therefore, managements or authorities of estates in the state are advised to constantly brief their private security guards in this regard. Any restriction deliberately put in the way of the police in any of the estates will not be tolerated. Offenders will be dealt with according to the law, just as the police will not condone any form of embarrassment and recklessness."

All your grammar hasn't answered my question:

How does everything that u say he has said justify the actions of the CP?
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Ajeyo(m): 10:52pm On Jan 03, 2022
You must be a child,why calling out a whole race because of one person's matter?

Yes,no tribe accomodate or loves strangers like the Yoruba.
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Emday(m): 10:57pm On Jan 03, 2022
Your points made a lot of sense to me
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by CrystalBliss: 10:58pm On Jan 03, 2022
DelTel:


House is different from Estate
House is private; estate is public

Police need warrant to enter a house not an estate

Equating yourself and I to POLICE is funny to say the least; an ideal policeman's duty is patrol on all roads and public areas (I didn't say private homes o) to forestall and nip in the bud a crime instead of waiting for the crime to be committed



grin you actually speaking about the estate residents who have manipulated the systems for their gains creating a division btw the have and have-nots; ostensibly creating a safe haven for criminal minds unknowingly (kidnapper Evans exploited this and more criminals still are)

We should commend, and not condemn, when wrongs are corrected. Because something has, sadly, become the norm doesn't mean it is right

Let us be broad-minded

The situation is a simple situation. If the estate is a public property, it wouldn't even need a private security. There's a private security only because it's a private property. The CP erred.
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by joefelin2345: 10:59pm On Jan 03, 2022
Pharaohny:




Nice peace
You mean rubbish piece? That's y you are being treated like slaves in your country. Good luck to you.
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by MartinsD12(m): 10:59pm On Jan 03, 2022
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by muller1012501: 11:04pm On Jan 03, 2022
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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Krismas(m): 11:04pm On Jan 03, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
When that incident happened. Hotel security asked DSS what they came for. They were not told anything. If they had a warrant, they would simply show it. They didn't have one and it's not the first time. Wike also stopped them from arresting a Judge without warrant back then, when Buhari was going crazy.

Ask yourself, Can that AIG enter Aso villa uninvited simply because he is a high ranked officer? He would simply be arrested for intruding.
grin Ur arguments are all twisted. Ask rock is a grade A security federal Zone. Its not the same as a private estate. In Addition. All roads in any estate are local government property. Meaning the police can enter freely. Infact magodo estate has a police station inside if am not mistaken. DSS is not the police. They are secret and do not have all the rights police has. Preventing the CP from entering was WRONG. If they don’t believe then let d estate take Odomusu to court. Wot were dey begging for??

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by DelTel(m): 11:07pm On Jan 03, 2022
CrystalBliss:


The situation is a simple situation. If the estate is a public property, it wouldn't even need a private security. There's a private security only because it's a private property. The CP erred.

grin grin very funny oooo grin cheesy

So private security at stadiums, hospitals, schools, and other public places mean they are private establishment grin grin

Generally, Nigerians need serious enlightenment on what it entails to live in a civil society

Most of us don't know the difference in alot of things and it is seriously affecting the society

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Daboomb: 11:08pm On Jan 03, 2022
DelTel:


Thank you for calling me ignorant

So why do the estate pay Land Use Charge to Govt if the estate abi your so-called administrators owns the land

Most road in Magodo were constructed by LASG

Land is owned by govt and assigned to people for usage for a period, usually 100 years

Get proper education please

PS: CofO is certificate of occupancy, which means govt authorized an individual or entity to OCCUPY for a certain period, can someone who doesn't own something give you Certificate to OCCUPY undecided

You are exactly what you were called: IGNORANT!
Just read yourself shocked shocked

Once you are granted a C/O, the land becomes a Private Estate, even if it is for that 100yrs.
Govt or its Agent like the Police, needs a Search/arrest warrant to enter forcefully.
But CP was not even on an official visit, he came for Socialising at an owambe party, when then is he flaunting power recklessly?

Too many Nigerians like you are so ignorant of your Rights, that the abnormal, abusive behaviour of these Govt Officials have become normalised in your senses and you are allowing them to legalize it.

CP "Feeling embarrassed" is not an offense codified in Nigerian Laws, so he arrested those people illegally and should be sanctioned for it.

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Krismas(m): 11:12pm On Jan 03, 2022
lexy2014:


U haven't answered d question:

What's wrong with stopping a commissioner of police?
grin Why not challenge his right to enter the estate in court?

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Daboomb: 11:14pm On Jan 03, 2022
DelTel:


grin grin very funny oooo grin cheesy

So private security at stadiums, hospitals, schools, and other public places mean they are private establishment grin grin

Generally, Nigerians need serious enlightenment on what it entails to live in a civil society

Most of us don't know the difference in alot of things and it is seriously affecting the society


You really need to go to School, Mr. Man, stop embarassing yourself publicly, like Mr. CP grin grin
You dont understand the context of the use of the word "Private"! undecided undecided

Contracting "Private Security" to assist in securing a place like a Stadium is different calling a place like an agglomeration of Houses a "Private Estate".
One is a Verb, while the other is a Noun.

That is my contribution to your Free Education!
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by lexy2014: 11:15pm On Jan 03, 2022
Krismas:
grin Why not challenge his right to enter the estate in court?

U still haven't answered d question:

What's wrong with stopping a commissioner of police?
Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by joefelin2345: 11:16pm On Jan 03, 2022
IAMBOSS1990:
I have 3 Questions for those supporting the estate:
1. Would the security guards have done same to the Governor of the State or we just have a special hatred for the Police?

2. What of the The President or Inspector General of Police?

3. How do you know the CP was not on official assignment?

If I be IG, I will suspend the licence of that security outfit for failing to train their personnel well and putting the life of the CP at risk.
Thank God you are not the IGP otherwise only God knows how wicked you would have been. Good night.

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by DelTel(m): 11:17pm On Jan 03, 2022
Daboomb:


You are exactly what you were called: IGNORANT!
Just read yourself shocked shocked

Once you are granted a C/O, the land becomes a Private Estate, even if it is for that 100yrs.
Govt or its Agent like the Police, needs a Search/arrest warrant to enter forcefully.
But CP was not even on an official visit, he came for Socialising at an owambe party, when then is he flaunting power recklessly?

Too many Nigerians like you are so ignorant of your Rights, that the abnormal, abusive behaviour of these Govt Officials have become normalised in your senses and you are allowing them to legalize it.

CP "Feeling embarrassed" is not an offense codified in Nigerian Laws, so he arrested those people illegally and should be sanctioned for it.

Daboomb:


You really need to go to School, Mr. Man, stop embarassing yourself publicly, like Mr. CP grin grin
You dont understand the context of the use of the word "Private"! undecided undecided

Contracting "Private Security" to assist in securing a place like a Stadium is different calling a place like an agglomeration of Houses a "Private Estate".
One is a Verb, while the other is a Noun.

That is my contribution to your Free Education!

Thank you, the ignorant one is clearly known to discerning minds grin

Ignorant one that says a search warrant is needed for police to enter an estate claiming estate is a private dwelling grin grin

Waste of education claiming rights, commonsense is not common apparently

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by Krismas(m): 11:18pm On Jan 03, 2022
Daboomb:


You are exactly what you were called: IGNORANT!
Just read yourself shocked shocked

Once you are granted a C/O, the land becomes a Private Estate, even if it is for that 100yrs.
Govt or its Agent like the Police, needs a Search/arrest warrant to enter forcefully.
But CP was not even on an official visit, he came for Socialising at an owambe party, when then is he flaunting power recklessly?

Too many Nigerians like you are so ignorant of your Rights, that the abnormal, abusive behaviour of these Govt Officials have become normalised in your senses and you are allowing them to legalize it.

CP "Feeling embarrassed" is not an offense codified in Nigerian Laws, so he arrested those people illegally and should be sanctioned for it.
grin C of O actually means the land belongs to d government and u just a tenant on d land and dat u will be required to pay tenement rate going forward yearly. The police does not need Warrant to enter any property. They only need a warrant to SEARCH a property. They can enter and not search. If d estate believe d CP arrest was illegal, I dare dem to go to court

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Re: Detained Security Guards, Widow Didn’t Deny CP Entry,Lagos Estate Tackles Police by joefelin2345: 11:19pm On Jan 03, 2022
festacman:


I believe in the words of my Lord Jesus Christ that it is well for me and it is well for me indeed. Your words are less than trash. God bless you.
Our Lord Jesus Christ would definitely not take your position in this matter. Better ask for His forgiveness otherwise the man's curse shall be upon your life-period.

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