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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Tpharell: 10:43am On Jan 05, 2022 |
ivolt:you clearly failed to grasp the import of his rather articulate write up |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by CSTRR: 10:47am On Jan 05, 2022 |
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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Bobxin: 10:48am On Jan 05, 2022 |
backbencher: From your submission, you agree with the PRESIDENT na 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by CSTRR: 10:49am On Jan 05, 2022 |
backbencher:This is the same buhari that refused to sign the electoral bill. He is not saying this because he likes Nigeria. He is against anything that will threaten the undue advantage his region holds. Without such advantages, a clown like him would never have emerged as president. 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:50am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Bobxin: Only on this matter. 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by CSTRR: 10:51am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Buhari has done whatever he can as a n president of northern origin. The joke would be on us if the next southern president does not behave as a Southerner. Everything buhari has refused to do can be done when he leaves office. 2 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:52am On Jan 05, 2022 |
CSTRR: Well, whether he likes Nigeria or not, state police isn't good for us, or indeed for the African continent. Unless you want to pay the income taxes needed to fund them, and you can also eliminate tribalism and the autocracy in the state governorship level. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Originalsly: 10:52am On Jan 05, 2022 |
The role of traditional leaders must not be undermined ... I agree 100%. So why isn't the Federal Police not making it a priority to crack down heavily on those kidnapping and murdering these leaders? The Governors are not giving the local leaders what they are due constitutionally... I agree 100% ... what has he done about it? Isn't it the same with the Police?... money allocated constitutionally for Police salaries and equipment and training for them to perform their duties professionally do not reach down to them? ... what has he done about it? There is no oversight period. There should be State Police ... but if there is no oversight then things should remain as is. The more local the Police... the better they will be able to minimize crime. There is a Federal Police (Feds) force in the US.... have supreme power nationwide. Then there is the State Police.... that have supreme power throughout the State.... as in New York State Police. Then there is City Police... as in NYPD that has power in the city only... and beyond each area has its own Police department. But there is oversight... the Feds. When the local Police do not prosecute a case well ... as in so many White Police killing innocent Blacks and not prosecuted by the local Police... the Feds step in ... investigate and charge who was supposed to be charged.... and those who were involved in the cover up. Point is... there must be oversight. Simply imagine Wike in charge of the State Police ... you will get my point. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by CSTRR: 10:54am On Jan 05, 2022 |
backbencher:How is state police not good for us? If you can't elect decent governors, that is your cross to bear. State policing is the way forward. The money that FG earmarks to fund the police every year should be transferred to the states as well as their usual security votes. 3 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by gadgethead: 10:55am On Jan 05, 2022 |
As usual, Buhari identifying a problem and offering no long lasting solution. What a doughhead! 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Bobxin: 10:55am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Damidave1124:The bolded is a very reasonable point. The President did make some sane points as well. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by larula: 10:56am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Off course not an option to you and your personal or perhaps ethnic agenda.. States comprise mostly of people with same tribes culture and tradition who understand themselves and can easily identify criminal elements amongst them father mother and children in the process identify if the element is external or not so why will you or your ethic cleansing brothers buy the idea? Your tribe don't habitat a particular place to mold cement blocks for houses except those promoted in the political cell of the group, they go about not diplomatically grazing but stealing raping hacking and killing States can put Sheriff (state police) in every entry point of the state to check ID of travelers if not at least take note of who comes and goes but I know you want the road free and your police men made of 80% tribes men with intense hatred for the alcohol drinking infidels. The harassment is drug to your boys and some have found ways of building houses before your term is over by transferring all crypto in Binance apps mostly in selected states and every boy with laptop either thrown to jail or bankrupt left with no school fees to pay reminds me of Boko Haram agenda. State can employ the youths your loopsided appointed person refused to employ despite their merits but instead we will fix names of some repentant people in the list and then roll out suplimentry list for NCS to get some brains sent to UK Turkey and Malaysia to smoke task payers money away as Dan Kidan Alhaji Rabiu Nagogo Na Dole Sai mun Kashe su Very funny there's a lot to be revealed why State police is not an option for you and your tribes men but we are also watching and keeping records |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Bobxin: 10:56am On Jan 05, 2022 |
backbencher:This is the first time, I can't help but to agree with the President. Honestly, this is Nigeria not the U.S |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by CSTRR: 10:57am On Jan 05, 2022 |
If you like go and elect governors like uzodinma or El rufai to take charge of your state police. That is your cup of tea. Let states with governors like Sanwo olu or seyi makinde use their own state police to provide adequate security for their people. 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by CSTRR: 10:58am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Bobxin:So all the chronic insecurity everywhere has not taught you guys that the current federal controlled policing will not solve anything? 2 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 11:00am On Jan 05, 2022 |
CSTRR: Tribalisim, religionist issues, autocratic state governors. Plus, it isn't just Nigeria, all African countries don't have state police, as do some European, and other countries. If you can't elect decent governors, that is your cross to bear. Have you elected a decent governor yourself, since it is your cross to bear? State policing is the way forward If you guys are willing to put tribal, religious and corruption issues away, plus pay the taxes for the thing (because oil money cannot even cover daily expense self, even if we 'reduce government spending, and corruption'). The money that FG earmarks to fund the police every year should be transferred to the states as well as their usual security votes. The money we spend on the police is one tenth of what the NYPD spends to police the city of New York and its environs.(which is why our police look like bedraggled and poor church mice, and why ENDSARS among their demands asked for better funding for the police) SPLIT IT among the states, and it won't be enough. Thus, taxes...which most Nigerians don't like. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 11:02am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Bobxin: Not only Nigeria, all African countries don't have state or provincial police. Because most of them are tribal and religious contraptions like Nigeria, and state police would only make a bad situation worse. 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Bobxin: 11:03am On Jan 05, 2022 |
backbencher:Nailed it! 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Awoleesu(m): 11:04am On Jan 05, 2022 |
A speculative excuse at best, an unintelligent analogy at worst! Speculative in the sense that there is no substantial evidence to prove that state governors would abuse a state policing system. And if at all, is the present federal government not abusing the use of the police under the status quo? You haven't tried a possible solution to a problem you have no clue as to solving, and you say NO to that option? PMB is evil! Poor Analogy because the reason for refusal of some state governors to release the LG funds is glaring. Many LGAs especially up north have no sensible reason to be LGA! And they do nothing, absolutely nothing other than pay salaries and share the allocation among the politicians and chiefs. They pass all the problems to the state govt. But take all the goodies into personal purses. If state govt has to do it all, then let them take it all! The haphazard segmentation of the so-called LGAs is even a fiscal and political burden. For instance, in Kaduna state, Chikun LGA would have functioned better as at least 4 separate LGAs, Ifelodun LGA in Kwara state is another big LGA with meaningless structures... Then visit Katsina, Kebbi, Kano, Niger etc states you'll wonder why some relatively small locations are given LGA status when in fact they'd been best attached to the nearest metropolitan LG. Talk of Batagarawa LG In Katsina, Fakai in Kebbi, Gwarzo/Karaye LGAs in Kano etc many of these are unnecessary creations! 2 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Babaken(m): 11:05am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Damidave1124:Is the federal mighty not using DSS and Efcc against their opponents he is talking of abuse of power since the new era of democracy in Nigeria 1999 till date which president abuse power and disobey the law most if not him. A lazy man will always have an excuses to give. 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 11:09am On Jan 05, 2022 |
backbencher:You don’t agree with Buhari, but you ended up consolidating his claims. To know how state police will function, take a look at how the state assemblies and local government functions. Every naysayer and opposition will be run out of that state. State police is good for all its merit, but until we build strong institutions rather than strong men, we are not ripe for it. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by drlateef: 11:16am On Jan 05, 2022 |
I don’t support that thinking. There’s no leader in Nigeria who is not open to abuse of power. Buhari can speak for himself but we have had past heads of state and presidents who used the police to rig elections and caused mayhem from the federal level. Therefore, the same disease he accused the governors of having can also be affecting the president, depending on the corruption in their conscience. The solution is not to disallow state police. The solution is to create hierarchy and command structure from local to national level of policing in Nigeria. The federal police should have ultimate power to overturn arrest and prosecution. And even that should also be under the control of the National Assembly or independent police commission that can sanction police activities at federal level. 2 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by faste: 11:19am On Jan 05, 2022 |
dlox147:If you have federal police supervise the state police then state police cannot bite..it is just to come up with a model that whittles down governors' grip on state police . 2 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by faste: 11:23am On Jan 05, 2022 |
MT:You are totally against it..then what is your solution ,nothing.Wait until insecurity get to your door step and we will see.. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by bakynes(m): 11:24am On Jan 05, 2022 |
drlateef:State Police is the only solution to safe guard lives and properties in Nigeria. Its advantages far out weighs its disadvantages. The state police can always have a service commission that gives check and balances to the excesses of state Governors. 2 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by faste: 11:31am On Jan 05, 2022 |
PrudencyFeats:Ask him..it is just like saying don't go to the university because you might not get a job after graduation.Life is all exploration ..and exploration leads to discovery...Nigeria is stagnant because she has refused to explore to discover the possibilities available to her.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by drlateef: 11:32am On Jan 05, 2022 |
bakynes: My submission above partly supports your view. Where things have worked, the state police must have lower hierarchy to federal police, otherwise a state police commission cannot quickly respond to abuse of power in the manner required when it happens. But there is hierarchical power with force, quicker response can be expected. A commission cannot have power and force required in that situation. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Amos1423(m): 11:33am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Does the north own a state police, why then is it a problem for other region to establish theirs. I for like see HISBAH and Ebubeagu engage in combat Sha just to see who for win. Do you wish to join News Discussion group on Whatsapp? Kindly join by scanning the QR CODE in the photo below.
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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by drlateef: 11:35am On Jan 05, 2022 |
bakynes: My submission above partly supports your view. Where things have worked, the state police must have lower hierarchy to federal police, otherwise a state police commission cannot quickly respond to abuse of power in the manner required when it happens. But there is hierarchical power with force, quicker response can be expected. A commission cannot have power and force required in that situation. Further more, if one state is attacking another state with their police, state commissions cannot help in such situations. Only the higher power at federal level can stop that. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by faste: 11:35am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Emma15678:Tell that to the bird!!The northern hegemony is afraid of losing its power of oppression and control. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by faste: 11:38am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Damidave1124:There are over guilty..the governors can never overdo the FG in this regard. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by faste: 11:41am On Jan 05, 2022 |
sangresan:They think they are doing the South ..state policing has the potential to down banditry in the North. |
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