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Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:08pm On Jan 10, 2022
sonmvayina:
Read verse 33...


See, you are just trying so hard to be dumb.

You are the one who gave Ezekiel 31:31-34..

Read verse 33. God said he is going to pit his laws in their mind.

He never said he was sending his son as sin sacrifice...haba
Hen nah, in the hearts of JEWS! JEWS!! JEWS!!!
Not people of other nations! cheesy
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:09pm On Jan 10, 2022
sonmvayina:
What does that mean ? I have never used that word..
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa! huh
Sonmvayina! huh
Now i know you're a compound liar, please go and sleep! grin
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 10:10pm On Jan 10, 2022
sonmvayina:
God is God

Man is man..

God can't become man

And man can't become God..

God is not a man or human being Numbers 23:19..

Jesus is a Roman idol ...has nothing to do with God.
Well, I guess that is according to your own understanding. Some of us happen to know that humans have been becoming Gods from the very beginning of time. The Pharaohs, for instance, were great Gods in their time, as Amujale could teach you if you care to know. You would find it in the Old Testament too if you care to look to understand, and in case you did not understand it from there, Christ, knowing how important that simple knowledge is and its implications, reminded those who read about him too.

Jehova is a Hebrew invention and has everything to do with God, as do the even earlier "Gods" created by Romans, along with Ogun and Sango and Allah and Shiva. A smart person might wonder why humans create Gods.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 10:13pm On Jan 10, 2022
sonmvayina:
What does that mean ? I have never used that word..
I believe you. The evidence is in support.

https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=+sonmvayina+Nirvana&search=Search
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by elated177: 1:18am On Jan 11, 2022
[quote author=sonmvayina post=109258003][/quote]Sonmvayina, what is the meaning of this?
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by elated177: 1:39am On Jan 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
I said the Messiah will lead people fo the worship and reverence of one God. The creator of the universe...Not necessary through Judaism..yorubas refers to the creator as Eledumare and the igbos as chukwu....the yorubas will worship Eledumare and the igbos will worship only chukwu ONLY.
Eledumare =chukwu = marduk = Hashem= creator of the universe...
What was your response when I called budaatum's teaching occultic?

Having a discussion with you is always something else. This is because you are always all over the place. You mean the Babylonians worshipped the true God? Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon or another Babylon? You have to choose one.

Again, "chukwu" is a title and not a name.

The one true God revealed himself to Abraham. From his Scriptures, we know what he expects from his worshippers and how to go to him. Any other god that doesn't have these, cannot be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as recorded in the Scriptures.

Do you think our ancestors, prior to the coming of the missionaries, worshipped the Creator?
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by budaatum: 4:03am On Jan 11, 2022
elated177:
What was your response when I called budaatum's teaching occultic?

Having a discussion with you is always something else. This is because you are always all over the place.
He definitely is all over the place and buda is definitely what has been referred to as occult. Or at least, off the beaten track.

I'm sure we'd have called Jesus occultic too though, if he were around today. His time people did said he was demonic, so not far off, don't you think?

I feel Jesus' response would be [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A10-16&version=NIV]"Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear"[/url], at least to those who seek to understand.

Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:42am On Jan 11, 2022
The funniest commentator on Nairaland!
Someone always talking about reincarnation, babylonian methodology and so on but wants to deny Nirvana!
Is it not through believers in reincarnation that we all heard about Nirvana?
cheesy
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by Jman24(m): 7:15am On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You and i aren't saying the same thing!
You've not answered my question, why must the Messiah be a Jew and not Yorùbá, Nigeria from Africa? smiley
Hahahaha
Max Max, trying to using reverse psychology to massage his ego and avoid response to facts accordingly.
So if I believe that the Messiah is youruba, would you believe me?
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:17am On Jan 11, 2022
elated177:
What was your response when I called budaatum's teaching occultic?

Having a discussion with you is always something else. This is because you are always all over the place. You mean the Babylonians worshipped the true God? Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon or another Babylon? You have to choose one.

Again, "chukwu" is a title and not a name.

The one true God revealed himself to Abraham. From his Scriptures, we know what he expects from his worshippers and how to go to him. Any other god that doesn't have these, cannot be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as recorded in the Scriptures.
[b]
Do you think our ancestors, prior to the coming of the missionaries, worshipped the [/b]Creator?
YES ...that is what I have been singing from the top of my voice.

The Hebrew Bible was written by the jews for the jews. For their official religion called Judaism.
Thei yoruba also wrote or passed the knowledge of their own religion from generation to generation. Same as the igbos.
I wonder why you are using the Hebrew one as a yardstick for all of humanity.
They all worship the creator. There is only one God and creator of the universe.
The only difference is how people approach him and the nomenclature..

Marduk is the creator of heaven and earth according to the Babylonians. He is the lord God of the old testament..(check the enuma Elish) .

It was him who asked Nebuchadnezzar to bring everyone to Babylon to learn about him.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:24am On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Hen nah, in the hearts of JEWS! JEWS!! JEWS!!!
Not people of other nations! cheesy
Yes..it had got nothing to do with other nations. Can't you read ?
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:25am On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa! huh
Sonmvayina! huh
Now i know you're a compound liar, please go and sleep! grin
Show me the post I used that word. Let people know who is the liar between us...
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:28am On Jan 11, 2022
budaatum:
Well, I guess that is according to your own understanding. Some of us happen to know that humans have been becoming Gods from the very beginning of time. The Pharaohs, for instance, were great Gods in their time, as Amujale could teach you if you care to know. You would find it in the Old Testament too if you care to look to understand, and in case you did not understand it from there, Christ, knowing how important that simple knowledge is and its implications, reminded those who read about him too.

Jehova is a Hebrew invention and has everything to do with God, as do the even earlier "Gods" created by Romans, along with Ogun and Sango and Allah and Shiva. A smart person might wonder why humans create Gods.
Jesus would have to exist first, don't you think so?

God is just a fancy world for the universe .....lol.

This is marduk, with the universe as his garments...

Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:28am On Jan 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
Yes..it had got nothing to do with other nations. Can't you read ?
So why talking to me about the Torah since i am not an Israelite? cheesy
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:29am On Jan 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
Show me the post I used that word. Let people know who is the liar between us...
There's no reincarnation without Nirvana! cheesy
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:30am On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The funniest commentator on Nairaland!
Someone always talking about reincarnation, babylonian methodology and so on but wants to deny Nirvana!
Is it not through believers in reincarnation that we all heard about Nirvana?
cheesy
Not me..

I have a thread on reincarnation...go back to it for clarification...
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:32am On Jan 11, 2022
Jman24:
Hahahaha
Max Max, trying to using reverse psychology to massage his ego and avoid response to facts accordingly.
So if I believe that the Messiah is youruba, would you believe me?
Messiah just means "anointed king" nothing more..

I believe the yorubas just had one

"Tbe olubadan "...
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:33am On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
There's no reincarnation without Nirvana! cheesy
Go to my thread on reincarnation...

Thanks
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:36am On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So why talking to me about the Torah since i am not an Israelite? cheesy
It is same thing as the Yoruba Ifa tradition..if you can lay your hands on it and get a good ifa preist to teach you. No wahala. God's laws are universal. But the most available one is the Torah.. that is why I always mention it..

So you get the idea..
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:37am On Jan 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
Messiah just means "anointed king" nothing more..
I believe the yorubas just had one
"Tbe olubadan "...
So why must it be that it's that of the Jews we must all wait for enlightenment and not the Ọọ̀ni, Aláàfin, Ọwá-Obòkun, Aláké, Awùjalẹ̀, Ṣọ̀ún, Ajerò or any other king from my own race? cheesy
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:41am On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So why must it be that it's that of the Jews we must all wait for enlightenment and not the Ọọ̀ni, Aláàfin, Ọwá-Obòkun, Aláké, Awùjalẹ̀, Ṣọ̀ún, Ajerò or any other king from my own race? cheesy
Because they think only them have the knowledge of God.

It is all propaganda.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:47am On Jan 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
Go to my thread on reincarnation...
Thanks
Only if you will not mention anything about the Eastern culture because if you do then Nirvana must be inclusive, in the absence of the Nirvana it simply means you're just a confused person! wink
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:49am On Jan 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
It is same thing as the Yoruba Ifa tradition..if you can lay your hands on it and get a good ifa preist to teach you. No wahala. God's laws are universal. But the most available one is the Torah.. that is why I always mention it..

So you get the idea..
I am from the family of Ifa priests so i can tell you confidently that ifá has nothing to do the laws written in the Bible book of Exodus.
So stop deceiving yourself! cheesy
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:51am On Jan 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
Because they think only them have the knowledge of God.
It is all propaganda.
It's a lie, the true God only introduced himself to Abraham and his descendants that's why you keep harmering on the TORAH!
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:58am On Jan 11, 2022
Let me make my self clear, just in case.

I have always maintained that it is always about God's laws and statutes. The babylonian had it

The egyptian had it
The yorubas had it, in fact it is the basis of the ifa religion

The igbos have it. It is the foundation of their omenani or omenala. The Law was given to all of humanity.

The jews wrote it down and called it the Torah. It was given to mankind to enable us live in peace..( and reduce chaos) .
When the romans became world power , they took it . Because the emperor at that time ( Constantine) wanted a single one world religion he created Christianity and added their scriptures at the back of the Jewish tanakh to make it sellable to human being. They know the tanakh was inspired. They took the Jewish idea of a Messiah and created a ridiculous story out of it and sold it to mankind. This is what emperor Julian said in his book " against the galileans"


" it is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind the reasons by which I was convinced that the fabrication of the Galilaeans is a fiction of men composed by wickedness. Though it has in it nothing divine, by making full use of that part of the soul which loves fable and is childish and foolish, it has induced men to believe that the monstrous tale is truth. "

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Against_the_Galileans

They have killed millions of people just to propagate the lies..even trying to exterminate the jews. But they have always been a raminant who survives..


I am not Jewish, my only concern is to show that Christianity is just rebranded paganism.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by Jman24(m):
MaxInDHouse:
It's a lie, the true God only introduced himself to Abraham and his descendants that's why you keep harmering on the TORAH!
grin

See views of human beings


1.Some people believe that Jesus is God
( they use incarnation story)

2. Some believe that Jesus is not God
( here they use the geneaology story as decoy to suit this claim ..that " he is the Messiah/flesh that was very much talked about when traced)"

3. Some don't even believe in the biblical character Jesus
(Because there is no agreement in their own good book as to whether Jesus is God or not )

4. Some people know Jesus is fiction
(because they have historical records)


Number 1 looks clear, but number 2 looks confusing. Now let's rearrange the sentences.

1. The incarnation story was created to make you believe an immortal can be mortal

2. The Messiah story was recreated to suit the geneaology of a saviour who is flesh and blood grin


But when you rearrange sentences 3 and 4, you don't really need sentences 1 and 2 to draw a conclusion.

Why?

Because you can do a direct rearrangement of 3 and 4 ( just read the ones in the bracket first) and connect to the previous clause.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:59am On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Only if you will not mention anything about the Eastern culture because if you do then Nirvana must be inclusive, in the absence of the Nirvana it simply means you're just a confused person! wink
Lol..every culture believes in reincarnation in some form....
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 8:00am On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
I am from the family of Ifa priests so i can tell you confidently that ifá has nothing to do the laws written in the Bible book of Exodus.
So stop deceiving yourself! cheesy
Lol..then you don't know anything about it...
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 8:01am On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
It's a lie, the true God only introduced himself to Abraham and his descendants that's why you keep harmering on the TORAH!
Lol...well it is same thing as our omenani...

So I am safe..
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m):
sonmvayina:
Lol..every culture believes in reincarnation in some form....
But the real teachers of REINCARNATION always include Nirvana!
So you totally confused! cheesy

Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:40am On Jan 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
Lol..then you don't know anything about it...
There's no ifá mythology that speaks against:
Making of images~ Exodus 20:4
Bowing to images~ Exodus 20:5
Nothing like Sabbath~ Exodus 20:8

So it has nothing to do with TORAH! cheesy
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:42am On Jan 11, 2022
sonmvayina:
Lol...well it is same thing as our omenani...
So I am safe..
In Yorùbá culture there are many many as in so many gods! cheesy
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