That's a rented building am seeing and not their permanent structure, bloggers carrying news like the church were the only one renting the propertie ,get your fact right this bloggers won't make heaven

This looks like a dilapidated and abandoned building that was renovated without proper support given to the building which will enable it to carry that modern roofing style.

djseanjohn77:


Early churches, but not the churches or kind of patriarchs we have today, also, the church is part of the people that raised the people in governments.....The government, therefore, is a direct reflection of the larger society e.g. go to different organizations across the country, banks, hospitals, airports, market.....every man is swindling is neighbor at every given opportunity. Righteousness exalts a nation, not politicians. Until we as a people genuinely approach God on the altar of truth, not the so-called god of men parading themselves as men of God. Psalm 107:34
A fruitful land into barrenness, for the wickedness of them that dwell therein.

Deuteronomy 28:1-14
And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: …

Prov 21 The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD; he directs it like a watercourse wherever he pleases. All a man's ways seem right to him, but the LORD weighs the heart. To do what is right and just is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Haughty eyes and a proud heart, the lamp of the wicked, are sin!


We as a nation have got it all wrong, no man is serving God genuinely, we serve Him for what we are likely to get from Him and this is what they have made us to believe which in all is not yielding anything but to few. We praise the rich irrespective of how the wealth is gotten.

Oga, I agree with you but since you are knowledgeable about the Bible, you will know that God will never operate without sending a man or men to lead His people. In Nigeria there are real and genuine men of God who also are humans and not perfect but still God uses them. In the same wise, there are fake Men of God spoiling the name the real ones to deceive people. So, instead of judging go find the real ones.

backbencher:


Well, God expects people to do the right thing at all times.

And his innocent children get punished in his house for what they know nothing about?

I'm sure the engineers are alive to this very moment.

I'm also sure hundreds of others are glad they were not in church to worship him that faithful day.

Sha this no be my bizness

Premiumwriter:


And his innocent children get punished in his house for what they know nothing about?

I'm sure the engineers are alive to this very moment.

I'm also sure hundreds of others are glad they were not in church to worship him that faithful day.

Sha this no be my bizness

That's why God has given us the tool of 'accountability'. Sad that people don't use it.

Premiumwriter:
isn't this what Christians do?

Didn't the isrealites sacrifice more animals to their God than Africans ever sacrifice to idols?

Don't Christians claim that Jesus, a human was sacrificed to their God for their sins to be forgiven?

What really is the difference?

Oga, don't mix idol worshipers with true Christianity.
The Israelites sacrificed animals on altars not to idols/Baal. Those that sacrifice to idols were killed. That was the Old testament/ covenant with God.
Christians already have a once in a lifetime sacrifice which is Christ sacrifice and so don't need any animal or human sacrifice to worship their God. So, it's not the same thing.

Techibi6777:

Yes I agree with you, however these early churches brought these things at the cost of what? Tithes and offerings? I guess not. You see when the early churches came, they knew we didn't have so they GAVE !

But you will agree with me that today's churches have totally derailed from the examples set by Jesus and also that of the early Christians. Even that of the missionaries that sacrificed themselves in the midst of barbaric & cannibistic natives, in the midst of Malaria and other deadly diseases infested Africa to bring the word and the basics to our people.

But what do we have today in the name of Religion?

Oga, don't get it twisted. The first church
Lead by the disciples collected offerings and sacrifices. Go and read how Ananias and Sapphira died through Paul in the Bible.

backbencher:


That's why God has given us the tool of 'accountability'. Sad that people don't use it.

God gave us a tool called accountability?

It's funny how it's not from the church people learn how to set up committee to investigate issues but from the world and worly government.

If its were up to the religious fellows when there's a mishap, all they say is 'it is the will of god' or 'these are trials from the devil and it'll come to pass".

And then they actually sit it down and wait till they are either comfortable with the loss or get something better.

It's only science and worldly government that investigate and seek to find the cause, actually blame someone for the mishap and then proffer possible solutions on how to prevent it in the future.

Please let's be guided

emmykingzy:


Oga, don't mix idol worshipers with true Christianity.
The Israelites sacrificed animals on altars not to idols/Baal. Those that sacrifice to idols were killed. That was the Old testament/ covenant with God.
Christians already have a once in a lifetime sacrifice which is Christ sacrifice and so don't need any animal or human sacrifice to worship their God. So, it's not the same thing.

In the old days (and to this very day, lots of jews still do it), the isrealites offer animal sacrifices to their God.

Just as our forefathers did.

The only difference is you seem to think the isrealites God is the only true God. Our forefathers think differently.

But the concrete fact is that they both offer animal sacrifices to their gods, to any observer there's no difference between these two gods.

Secondly, you speak of human Sacrifice like Jesus was not sacrifice on the alter of your God.

Now you boast in this human sacrifice and say the aim is to save you and forgive your sins.

Do you think your forefathers if they ever sacrificed a human being to their God, have no reason for doing so?

If then both gods received equal human and animal sacrifices, why castigate the gods of your forefathers?

Most isrealites today will mock Christians not because they hate you but because they can't stomach the fact that their God who despises other gods for receiving human Sacrifices in turn later accepted one in your so called New testament?

Do you not see the hypocrisy?

hosemujica:


China is still worshipping thier idols, likewise India, yet they are not living in stone age.

Not all of China and Indians worship idols. There are about 70million Christians in China. But you failed to note that China's and India development started when the opened their economy to Christian Nations like Britian, Germany, USA,Russian and so on.
The Top Christian Nations in the world are USA,Germany,Denmark,Britian,Brazil etc. I rather live in any of these Christian countries than stay in China or india.
Note, that China and India are developing because of their United and collective mentality to develop their nation irrespective of their beliefs.

Stop blaming the church. There are equal number of Muslims in Nigeria.

Nigerians, government need to develop that positive mentality to develop this country.

Premiumwriter:
God gave us a tool called accountability?

It's funny how it's not from the church people learn how to set up committee to investigate issues but from the world and worly government.

They do.Slavery was abolished partly because some religious people did more than cry about it

If its were up to the religious fellows when there's a mishap, all they say is 'it is the will of god' or 'these are trials from the devil and it'll come to pass".

straw-man. Just like me saying atheists want to get rid of all the religious by genocide.

And then they actually sit it down and wait till they are either comfortable with the loss or get something better.

Many religious people didn't do that in history

Obviously you don't really know many religious people.

It's only science and worldly government that investigate and seek to find the cause, actually blame someone for the mishap and then proffer possible solutions on how to prevent it in the future.

Please let's be guided

Many religious people have been moved by religion to right wrongs and fight for standards and rules and regulations.Some just don't make mouth and say 'religon made me do it' same as some atheists doing good don't say 'atheism made me do it'

Please let;s be guided.

emmykingzy:

Not all of China and Indians worship idols. There are about 70million Christians in China. But you failed to note that China's and India development started when the opened their economy to Christian Nations like Britian, Germany, USA,Russian and so on.
The Top Christian Nations in the world are USA,Germany,Denmark,Britian,Brazil etc. I rather live in any of these Christian countries than stay in China or india.
Note, that China and India are developing because of their United and collective mentality to develop their nation irrespective of their beliefs.

Stop blaming the church. There are equal number of Muslims in Nigeria.

Nigerians, government need to develop that positive mentality to develop this country.

They are secular nations please let's be guided bro.

Christianity has nothing to do with the development of these nations.

Science does.

In the medieval ages, the popes were notorious for killing scientists and burning books that contradict the Bible because at that time, the government was in romance with the church.

It was much later they got separated.

Christianity rode on the progress of science it sought to kill, not the other way around

Premiumwriter:
Lol

Every generation seems to think they live in the worst times and in the end time.

Every generation has the end time signs

That's the summary bro.

backbencher:


They do.Slavery was abolished partly because some religious people did more than cry about it



straw-man. Just like me saying atheists want to get rid of all the religious by genocide.



Many religious people didn't do that in history

Obviously you don't really know many religious people.



Many religious people have been moved by religion to right wrongs and fight for standards and rules and regulations.Some just don't make mouth and say 'religon made me do it' same as some atheists doing good don't say 'atheism made me do it'

Please let;s be guided.

First of all, slavery was never abolished because of Christianity.

That's a huge fact lie.

When Abraham Lincoln took up the campaign against slavery, the congress members in support of slavery actually were able to prove that it is right and just for a human being to buy and sell another human being.

Guess how they were able to prove this bro?

Of course via your holy Bible.

Is the 'uprightness' of buying and selling slaves not written all over your holy book?

Didn't your God gave humans the right to buy and sell slaves? To own the slaves and their children?

To win his argument, Abraham Lincoln turned not to the Bible but to humanity and science. Using the universal principles of fundamental human rights that all humans are born free and should be free.

So, stop lying about where freedom from slavery came from.

Premiumwriter:


They are secular nations please let's be guided bro.

Christianity has nothing to do with the development of these nations.

Science does.

In the medieval ages, the popes were notorious for killing scientists and burning books that contradict the Bible because at that time, the government was in romance with the church.

It was much later they got separated.

Christianity rode on the progress of science it sought to kill, not the other way around

Oga, I will give top 3 or more scientists from America that where highly committed christians. The two go together and can also go separately.

emmykingzy:


Oga, I will give top 3 or more scientists from America that where highly committed christians. The two go together and can also go separately.

I'm waiting for that top 3 that are Christians.

As a side note: religion offers nothing to the progress of science other than ethics and morals.

If science want to clone a human being to harvest organs, the only take a religious person can offer is "is this right or wrong".

That's all you can find in the togetherness of religion and science.

Premiumwriter:


First of all, slavery was never abolished because of Christianity.

That's a huge fact lie.

When Abraham Lincoln took up the campaign against slavery, the congress members in support of slavery actually were able to prove that it is right and just for a human being to buy and sell another human being.

Guess how they were able to prove this bro?

Of course via your holy Bible.

Is the 'uprightness' of buying and selling slaves not written all over your holy book?

Didn't your God gave humans the right to buy and sell slaves? To own the slaves and their children?

To win his argument, Abraham Lincoln turned not to the Bible but to humanity and science. Using the universal principles of fundamental human rights that all humans are born free and should be free.

So, stop lying about where freedom from slavery came from.

The abolition of slavery was not just 'lincoln'

It has a very long and interesting history..and I'll leave that for you to find out. For now, I'll point out that religion played a role in abolitionist philosophy, and many abolitionists were moved by religion.(Many slavers also used religion arguments...see the division of the Baptists in the USA)

Even Brazil, which abolished slavery in 1888, did so because 'they were the last nation in Christendom to have slavery'

Good morning.

For a better view...read this book

For the Glory of God: How Monotheism Led to Reformations, Science, Witch-Hunts, and the End of Slavery
Rodney Stark (EPUB). Its not a christian book, FYI.

Lexusgs430:


Call me whatever you want ........ But a ban and restrictions MUST be placed on religion ..........

Abeg, start the ban and restrictions with your own religion. See Stupid thinking.

badboyTee:
if only you know how brainless you sound.

Exactly how what the brainless products your parents gave birth to

backbencher:


The abolition of slavery was not just 'lincoln'

It has a very long and interesting history..and I'll leave that for you to find out. For now, I'll point out that religion played a role in abolitionist philosophy, and many abolitionists were moved by religion.(Many slavers also used religion arguments...see the division of the Baptists in the USA)

Even Brazil, which abolished slavery in 1888, did so because 'they were the last nation in Christendom to have slavery'

Good morning.

For a better view...read this book

For the Glory of God: How Monotheism Led to Reformations, Science, Witch-Hunts, and the End of Slavery
Rodney Stark (EPUB). Its not a christian book, FYI.

I know and agree with you that ending slavery wasn't just a Lincoln struggle.

What I beg to differ is trying to pin it on Christianity like it was the Christians who actually orchestrated or fought the fight against slavery.

That aspect is a lie.

Some Christians may have participated in it, but it was not the Bible teaching that pushed them to it.

Rather, it's the brewing religion of humanity that all humans are equal and therefore should be free.

That's the pushing factor not the religion from Isreal that sanctified owning slaves

Bola146:


Exactly how what the brainless products your parents gave birth to

bola people died while praying to invisible Yahweh so you that didn't die you call it grace smh it purely luck and you may die anytime soon there is more than a 1000 ways to die bola pls use your head and don't let religion kill your senses

Na real wa oo

Premiumwriter:
I'm waiting for that top 3 that are Christians.

As a side note: religion offers nothing to the progress of science other than ethics and morals.

If science want to clone a human being to harvest organs, the only take a religious person can offer is "is this right or wrong".

That's all you can find in the togetherness of religion and science.

Please, goggle is there to help you but I will give 5 names. You can read up how their Christian beliefs shaped their scientific discoveries and success.
1. ROBERT BOYLE -1627-1691
2. MICHEAL FARADAY- 1791-1867
3. JAMES CLERK MAXWELL- 1831-1879
4. ISSAC NEWTON -1643-1727
5. CHARLES BABBAGE 1791-1871
Oga, read them up easily using Google. I can give you up to 80 names.
These are facts and proofs.

cidieschat:
If you believe the the government has the responsibility to do more. Then the government deserves our 10% not the church

Dont kill yourself over tithe matter

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Lexusgs430:
Churches would never fix Nigeria......... Neither would prayers.......

If religion worked, African would not be mostly screwed..........

The problem is that they won't listen to you. In fact, they'd rebuke you for saying this alone. I sorry for Nigerians...

Premiumwriter:
I know and agree with you that ending slavery wasn't just a Lincoln struggle.

What I beg to differ is trying to pin it on Christianity like it was the Christians who actually orchestrated or fought the fight against slavery.

That aspect is a lie.

Some Christians may have participated in it, but it was not the Bible teaching that pushed them to it.

Rather, it's the brewing religion of humanity that all humans are equal and therefore should be free.

That's the pushing factor not the religion from Isreal that sanctified owning slaves

those that fought to keep slavery going in USA had their stand backed by the folklore Bible while the abolitionists don't

check out the famous quotes by Christians in support of slavery during the fight for its abolition

Slavery was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation...it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts.


the right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example.



Now let's have a look at the abolitionists and see if they referred to the Bible at all

Wilberforce wrote in his diary "God Almighty has set before me two great objects, the suppression of the Slave Trade and Reformation of Morals."
Nothing but his own personal shiii, not reference to the Bible at all, obviously whatever influenced him to fight for abolition had NOTHING to do with the Bible, probably his common sense overriding the rubbish book

John Wesley who founded Methodist too never used the Bible to support his abolitionist movement neither did Charles Finney nor Theodore Weld nor Harriet Beecher

Basically, if Christianity is based on the Bible like Christians are fond of saying then it wasn't the reason slavery was abolished but it was abolished inspite of it as it goes against the Bible. Heck you could even call the Christians who are abolitionists "Sinners" and you wouldn't be wrong! they could be burning in hell forever for daring to go against Yahweh's Hole-ly and perfect instructions

hopefulLandlord:


those that fought to keep slavery going in USA had their stand backed by the folklore Bible while the abolitionists don't

check out the famous quotes by Christians in support of slavery during the fight for its abolition

Slavery was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation...it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts.

Jefferson Davis , President, Confederate States of America

the right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example.

Richard Furman , President, South Carolina Baptist Convention

Now let's have a look at the abolitionists and see if they referred to the Bible at all

Wilberforce wrote in his diary "God Almighty has set before me two great objects, the suppression of the Slave Trade and Reformation of Morals."
Nothing but his own personal shiii, not reference to the Bible at all, obviously whatever influenced him to fight for abolition had NOTHING to do with the Bible, probably his common sense overriding the rubbish book

John Wesley who founded Methodist too never used the Bible to support his abolitionist movement neither did Charles Finney nor Theodore Weld nor Harriet Beecher

Basically, if Christianity is based on the Bible like Christians are fond of saying then it wasn't the reason slavery was abolished but it was abolished inspite of it as it goes against the Bible. Heck you could even call the Christians who are abolitionists "Sinners" and you wouldn't be wrong! they could be burning in hell forever for daring to go against Yahweh's Hole-ly and perfect instructions

Thanks for this bro.

A lot of blind folks thinks to think that there's nothing good outside their religion.

The one that even pains me the most is how the put themselves at the center of everything and want you to accept their positions without any concrete facts.

I mean, if it were up to the Bible slavery is as right as breathing.

Even the core jews today still have the fantasy that their real messiah is still coming. And that at his coming, he will make everyone that is not a jew, servants of the jews with each jews owing 7-8 slaves at his disposal.

It's so bad Africans can't see these religions for what they really are.

emmykingzy:


Please, goggle is there to help you but I will give 5 names. You can read up how their Christian beliefs shaped their scientific discoveries and success.
1. ROBERT BOYLE -1627-1691
2. MICHEAL FARADAY- 1791-1867
3. JAMES CLERK MAXWELL- 1831-1879
4. ISSAC NEWTON -1643-1727
5. CHARLES BABBAGE 1791-1871
Oga, read them up easily using Google. I can give you up to 80 names.
These are facts and proofs.

lolz

Those are scientists. The Bible has no bearing on their discovery.

Anyone with an inquisitive mind, the right equipment and funding can carryout research and find things.

That's why both atheists, hinduists and Muslims can discover new things.

Religion doesn't help you to discover things in science, if not the isrealites should have been flying aeroplane before the rest of the world

The right mind + right equipment = discoveries.

Don't get it twisted

It happened close to my house jaree...Even the pastors wife lost her life..evacuation is still on going till now..May their souls rest in peace Amen

Premiumwriter:
lolz

Those are scientists. The Bible has no bearing on their discovery.

Anyone with an inquisitive mind, the right equipment and funding can carryout research and find things.

That's why both atheists, hinduists and Muslims can discover new things.

Religion doesn't help you to discover things in science, if not the isrealites should have been flying aeroplane before the rest of the world

The right mind + right equipment = discoveries.

Don't get it twisted

Oga, I have given you facts and proofs you are here arguing Nd disputing facts about what the Author/scientists wrote about himself, his beliefs and autobiography.
You have not presented facts or proofs, you are just speaking grammar. A history of Scientists that you can simply Google and read yourself.
It's very obvious you know absolutely nothing about the Bible. Keep arguing with yourself.