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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 1:21pm On Jan 13, 2022
nitrogen:


Greenwood and Rashford are very good players. My issue is they’ve regressed because of selfishness and cockiness. Greenwood won’t pass to his teammates upfront because he wants to score crackers. Rashford would prefer to get into traffic or run with the ball without sense. Not like he is big and strong like Antonio or Lukaku for that style of play. I cannot count the number of times Rashford spoilt counterattacks because he wants to outrun and outmuscle defenders.

Both players are also very lazy, Ronaldo and Cavani are better in that aspect. Imagine, 35/36 year old vs 20/24 year old players.

If Greenwood doesn't score whenever he gets the chance to play, he gets sent to the bench. That has always been his story since he broke in to the team. Everyone can survive a barren run..Martial almost went a season without scoring and he was starting games. Greenwood blanks for 2-3 games and he gets benched(under Ole) or gets shifted to another position ( Under Rangnick).

I can't believe I'm defending Greenwood but that's the fact. And he'll continue to be like that until he's given equal chances like others.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 1:26pm On Jan 13, 2022
liveLongNprospa:


Bro have you forgotten the amount of insults Rashford received on this forum last season grin
I remember but I'm saying it was because of the injuries. He was in red hot form before the injuries.

What's wrong with him now is mostly confidence and intense pressure not to fvck up. Any player can go through this. But he can prove he's an elite player by making it through this and getting back to his best.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 1:31pm On Jan 13, 2022
PR Rashford MBE cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 1:32pm On Jan 13, 2022
liveLongNprospa:
The way yall talk about Cavani? Like he's even among top 10 strikers in the world currently.

That guy doesn't stay healthy long enough or score enough goals even when healthy to be chosen ahead of Ronaldo.

You want an injury prone workaholic and a selfish teen to be your attackers because you cannot imagine another way to play football.

That's the problem with some of you, once you get fed one type of imaginary football ehn.. That's it. Nothing else can be successful. grin

Yeah we want a workaholic up front. We need a workaholic up front. He presses, always trying to win possession up front, he's not selfish and can score goals.

We've seen Greenwood and Cavani work.
Ronaldo and Greenwood. Nah.
Cavani and Ronaldo. Only worked once and it was against Tottenham.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 1:32pm On Jan 13, 2022
ChristoBam:

I remember but I'm saying it was because of the injuries. He was in red hot form before the injuries.

What's wrong with him now is mostly confidence and intense pressure not to fvck up. Any player can go through this. But he can prove he's an elite player by making it through this and getting back to his best.

grin that's for you. Me I've given up on him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:37pm On Jan 13, 2022
donstan18:

Rashford and Greenwood are quality players.

We’ve watched both before Ronaldo joined ManU.

Rashford recoded 37 G/A last season.

Recorded 34 G/A last two seasons.

Recorded 23 G/A last 3 seasons.

Recorded 23G/A last 4 seasons.

Recorded 18 G/A last 5 seasons.

I dare you to name two EPL players with such improvement and quality for the last 5 seasons.

He was getting better every season until Ronaldo joined ManU. Should I talk about Greenwood? How he was on fire last season, last 2 seasons, last 3 seasons, early this season until that tappin sui merchant joined ManU.

One day, just one day, ManU unreasonable fans will agree that Ronaldo is the problem with ManU attack.

Lol, you don change am again o. Ronaldo was Utd’s problem, now he is the problem with just Man U attack. Did you see how we played way better (vs Aston Villa) without Ronaldo? We became City and prime Barca. It was beautiful to watch!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:40pm On Jan 13, 2022
ChristoBam:


If Greenwood doesn't score whenever he gets the chance to play, he gets sent to the bench. That has always been his story since he broke in to the team. Everyone can survive a barren run..Martial almost went a season without scoring and he was starting games. Greenwood blanks for 2-3 games and he gets benched(under Ole) or gets shifted to another position ( Under Rangnick).

I can't believe I'm defending Greenwood but that's the fact. And he'll continue to be like that until he's given equal chances like others.


Greenwood was a starter under Ole. He played 31 games in 2019/20 and 30/31 games in 2020/21 seasons. He has played 15 games this season. Maguire (a regular starter) featured in 34 and 38 games in both seasons respectively.

Meanwhile, Rauf has not even managed 7 games at Utd.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 1:56pm On Jan 13, 2022
ChristoBam:


Yeah we want a workaholic up front. We need a workaholic up front. He presses, always trying to win possession up front, he's not selfish and can score goals.

We've seen Greenwood and Cavani work.
Ronaldo and Greenwood. Nah.
Cavani and Ronaldo. Only worked once and it was against Tottenham.





Do you want a workaholic or do you want to take advantage of world-class?

This past year, Ronaldo scored 47 goals.
When last did cavani do that?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 96forever: 2:04pm On Jan 13, 2022
melodyogonna:

I'd take Cavani too sha
Surprise Surprise cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 96forever: 2:09pm On Jan 13, 2022
liveLongNprospa:


Do you want a workaholic or do you want to take advantage of world-class?

This past year, Ronaldo scored 47 goals.
When last did cavani do that?
The only reason he wants Cavani ahead of Ronaldo is hardwork. All this la midget fanatics should leave united and support their one league goal merchant in Kfc league. For all the talk about hard work. Their Goat is the laziest in that aspect.

But but Greenwood and Cavani should bench Ronaldo our top scorer.

The love for Cavani who even wants to leave us for Bankruptcy Europa league Barcelona is overwhelming, I'm not surprised sha, LA midgets Fanatics are shameless like their Dwarf.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 2:53pm On Jan 13, 2022
96forever:
The only reason he wants Cavani ahead of Ronaldo is hardwork. All this la midget fanatics should leave united and support their one league goal merchant in Kfc league. For all the talk about hard work. Their Goat is the laziest in that aspect.

But but Greenwood and Cavani should bench Ronaldo our top scorer.

The love for Cavani who even wants to leave us for Bankruptcy Europa league Barcelona is overwhelming, I'm not surprised sha, LA midgets Fanatics are shameless like their Dwarf.
You just have to insult people even your fellow fans just because of differing opinions?

Someone can't have opinion in this forum again as long as that opinion isn't the majority opinion. Once one is out of point, the next thing is insult and insult!

Na wa for una ooo

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:28pm On Jan 13, 2022
Should Ronaldo start every game? No...

Has his presence hindered the development of others? I think not.

I expected the likes of Rashford, Greenwood and Martial to look up to Ronaldo and get inspired instead Martial wants out because he doesn't want to work his socks off whilst Rashford and Greenwood are hell bent on outshining Ronaldo that's why selfishness has become a mainstay in their games. If I was the coach, I'd make it clear that Ronaldo is the leader in attack and whenever he is on the pitch, they have to play with him or get benched (Poch should do same in PSG)...

I make bold to say that Ronaldo and Messi are still the two best players around with Lewandowski the only player who has stepped up his game to match them as they age.

It irks me to see Ronaldo pressing whilst Greenwood and Rashford will be jogging around. Ronaldo's interview clearly points to what we have echoed here overtime, these young players are overpaid so have little or no motivation to work harder. Imagine someone with the output of Bowen earning as much as Salah and more than Jota, isn't that crazy?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:32pm On Jan 13, 2022
The club needs to review that salary structure. Rashford should be earning 100k that way, he will be striving hard to improve so he can get a new deal and move up to 150-200k but he is already on 200k or there about. Same goes for Greenwood, Martial and the rest.

As I opined a couple of days ago, we need to limit the number of British players in our first team squad, those guys are over pampered and overpaid hence they don't even put in any effort to get better...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 3:43pm On Jan 13, 2022
which new signing has made a bigger impact in the epl than ronaldo angry angry angry angry angry angry angry


set awon ronaldo is d problem..

without ronaldo we would be 11th now and out of the championsleague

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 4:50pm On Jan 13, 2022
Mrviktor:
which new signing has made a bigger impact in the epl than ronaldo angry angry angry angry angry angry angry


set awon ronaldo is d problem..

without ronaldo we would be 11th now and out of the championsleague

I question the intelligence of people who have watched this man utd play for years and then come to the conclusion that Cristiano is the problem.

And then I dont get into an argument with them so they dont infect me.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:57pm On Jan 13, 2022
Oasis007:
Ronaldo: “I remember when I was 18 some older players spoke with me and I took that as having to improve, they know more than me as they have more bad moments. This new generation in general don’t accept that if you criticise them. I have kids I know. They do the opposite.

“ If you don’t want my help and my advice, do your job look at yourself. Do your best to help the team.”

Saying it as it is. Lazy, proud bunch of young players with hype of Pele and abilities of Sanogo.

If they can’t listen to a man with 5 Ballon d’Or awards, who then can they listen to? Or they think one can just wake up and gather 5 Ballon d’Or, 5 UCLs and score 800 goals amongst others. Even Manchester United as a club doesn’t have up to 5 UCL titles.

Hate him, dislike him, castigate him all you want. Cristiano Ronaldo’s numbers speak for him. And it takes an elite football mentality to achieve that.

Ronaldo won his first Ballon d’Or at 23, and these ones approaching 25, 26, 27 are still crying for breast milk claiming potential.

The disciplinary level at this club is awful. It always about potential potential potential and years just go by with nothing to show for it. Martial has gone from 19 to 26 and we’re still talking potential.

If these guys don’t have the mentality required to play for Manchester United, get rid of them or enforce the level of discipline they need, not want.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 96forever: 5:02pm On Jan 13, 2022
Jodera:
You just have to insult people even your fellow fans just because of differing opinions?

Someone can't have opinion in this forum again as long as that opinion isn't the majority opinion. Once one is out of point, the next thing is insult and insult!

Na wa for una ooo
Are you okay? Where are the insults? If you have nothing to say you should scram, we are discussing United not Arsenal. No come the form busy body here.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:13pm On Jan 13, 2022
BikeMan:
I've always known scummies can't read cheesy.

Now please list what Rauf has accomplished so far with the ones passed on to him. What about the ones passed on to Ole? Heh?

Tuchel has only bought one player of his own and he's already in another final, keep complaining about how you don't have players when your squad can buy many teams in England grin

What can a serious team possibly do with McFred Or a Maguire that's always shaky

What we have is a bunch of expensive clowns. That's all

And as for the bold, Ole steadied the canoe and Ralf is about to get the anchor off for us to sail smoothly cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:21pm On Jan 13, 2022
96forever:
Are you okay? Where are the insults? If you have nothing to say you should scram, we are discussing United not Arsenal. No come the form busy body here.
Like I said earlier

Na wa for you

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 5:21pm On Jan 13, 2022
LostMyZeal:


What can a serious team possibly do with McFred Or a Maguire that's always shaky

What we have is a bunch of expensive clowns. That's all

And as for the bold, Ole steadied the canoe and Ralf is about to get the anchor off for us to sail smoothly cool

If it takes almost 4 years to steady, how long will it take to win an actual trophy? cheesy How long did it take Mourinho to start winning trophies for you?

So Maguire is now trash? 80M player? When we do head to head, you people swear that your players are better than ours, but when we demand results they suddenly become trash. You dey ment! cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:33pm On Jan 13, 2022
Elections don dey come, they don lift twitter ban.
Bastárds grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 96forever: 5:35pm On Jan 13, 2022
Ibime:
Our high press was very effective today.

That should show that achieving a press with Lukaku is not a red herring

A striker need not do more than slightly pressure both centre-backs, and let the wingers and AM do the furious part of the pressing. Centrebacks will hardly leave their position to show for ball for fear of a strikers presence. That's what Bayern have been doing with Lewandowski for years, not that Lewandowski is chasing players down like Usain Bolt.

When Pep was chasing Ronaldo in the summer, one analyst was asked how Pep will maintain the press with Ronaldo, he said easy, Pep will only ask the striker to move within the vicinity of the centre-backs, that Messi was not pressing furiously at Barca, Messi just make shadow movements and Pedro, Villa and Iniesta take it from there, that Pep does not even want Messi too tired from pressing when ball reaches him in the box, he needs him to have a calm head for the finish.

Another key difference - it's easier for 4 attackers to press than 3. We also had an AM on board today which we don't usually have.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:35pm On Jan 13, 2022
patrickmuf:
Should Ronaldo start every game? No...

Has his presence hindered the development of others? I think not.

I expected the likes of Rashford, Greenwood and Martial to look up to Ronaldo and get inspired instead Martial wants out because he doesn't want to work his socks off whilst Rashford and Greenwood are hell bent on outshining Ronaldo that's why selfishness has become a mainstay in their games. If I was the coach, I'd make it clear that Ronaldo is the leader in attack and whenever he is on the pitch, they have to play with him or get benched (Poch should do same in PSG)...

I make bold to say that Ronaldo and Messi are still the two best players around with Lewandowski the only player who has stepped up his game to match them as they age.

It irks me to see Ronaldo pressing whilst Greenwood and Rashford will be jogging around. Ronaldo's interview clearly points to what we have echoed here overtime, these young players are overpaid so have little or no motivation to work harder. Imagine someone with the output of Bowen earning as much as Salah and more than Jota, isn't that crazy?
Man u overpay too much, mostly to those young lad who don’t want to listen to Cr7, I mean it’s Cr7 we are talking about here.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:36pm On Jan 13, 2022
BikeMan:
If it takes almost 4 years to steady, how long will it take to win an actual trophy? cheesy How long did it take Mourinho to start winning trophies for you?

So Maguire is now trash? 80M player? When we do head to head, you people swear that your players are better than ours, but when we demand results they suddenly become trash. You dey ment! cheesy

You should know I'm not in the business of doing head-to-head

Admittedly, Maguire fooled a lot of us and I hope he remains glued to that bench

An even bigger but subtle problem is the obsession with these English brats

And FYI: my last comment was a sarcasm you didn't get undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:36pm On Jan 13, 2022
patrickmuf:
The club needs to review that salary structure. Rashford should be earning 100k that way, he will be striving hard to improve so he can get a new deal and move up to 150-200k but he is already on 200k or there about. Same goes for Greenwood, Martial and the rest.

As I opined a couple of days ago, we need to limit the number of British players in our first team squad, those guys are over pampered and overpaid hence they don't even put in any effort to get better...
You don’t make English players your key men, else you won’t win anything and their wages will keep on skyrocketing. Imagine Maguire captaining Man U, nor be ment be that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 5:41pm On Jan 13, 2022
liveLongNprospa:


Do you want a workaholic or do you want to take advantage of world-class?

This past year, Ronaldo scored 47 goals.
When last did cavani do that?
He scored 47 goals mostly at a struggling Juve but how many league goals does he have for us so far?

And please remind me what Bonuci and Buffon said after Ronaldo left.

He's Fvcking 36 years old. WTF is a 36 years old world class player.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 6:06pm On Jan 13, 2022
96forever:
The only reason he wants Cavani ahead of Ronaldo is hardwork. All this la midget fanatics should leave united and support their one league goal merchant in Kfc league. For all the talk about hard work. Their Goat is the laziest in that aspect.

But but Greenwood and Cavani should bench Ronaldo our top scorer.

The love for Cavani who even wants to leave us for Bankruptcy Europa league Barcelona is overwhelming, I'm not surprised sha, LA midgets Fanatics are shameless like their Dwarf.

From the beginning, all I've been saying is Ronaldo should start all our UCL games. There's just something about him and the UCL. But as for the league games. I want Cavani and Greenwood in majority of the games.

I don't know how many times I'll say this but we've seen this work many times in the past. They link up well together. Even when Greenwood was playing from the wing. I'm not just saying Cavani because of the hardwork, all though that's also really important.

Btwn I can see the reason most of you won't see the facts staring you at your face is because of this Ronaldo V Messi arguments you've been having for years.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 6:08pm On Jan 13, 2022
nitrogen:


Lol, you don change am again o. Ronaldo was Utd’s problem, now he is the problem with just Man U attack. Did you see how we played way better (vs Aston Villa) without Ronaldo? We became City and prime Barca. It was beautiful to watch!
No gree for those boys! Give them hot hot!! grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 6:13pm On Jan 13, 2022
MRTA7:


I question the intelligence of people who have watched this man utd play for years and then come to the conclusion that Cristiano is the problem.

And then I dont get into an argument with them so they dont infect me.
This is funny because it looks like what I'd say grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 96forever: 6:18pm On Jan 13, 2022
ChristoBam:

He scored 47 goals mostly at a struggling Juve but how many league goals does he have for us so far?

And please remind me what Bonuci and Buffon said after Ronaldo left.

He's Fvcking 36 years old. WTF is a 36 years old world class player.
La Midget fanatic, I know it won't be hard before you show your true colors cheesy.

Cry today, cry tomorrow and cry everyday. Nonsense and ingredients. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 96forever: 6:19pm On Jan 13, 2022
ChristoBam:


From the beginning, all I've been saying is Ronaldo should start all our UCL games. There's just something about him and the UCL. But as for the league games. I want Cavani and Greenwood in majority of the games.

I don't know how many times I'll say this but we've seen this work many times in the past. They link up well together. Even when Greenwood was playing from the wing. I'm not just saying Cavani because of the hardwork, all though that's also really important.

Btwn I can see the reason most of you won't see the facts staring you at your face is because of this Ronaldo V Messi arguments you've been having for years.
After spitting bile, you now want to sound cool and reasonable, thunder fire your yansh there grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 6:25pm On Jan 13, 2022
96forever:
After spitting bile, you now want to sound cool and reasonable, thunder fire your yansh there grin grin
I don't even know how I'm trying to sound cool but to each man his little cross. Whatever you're facing that's made you so hateful and unreasonable will pass.

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