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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:49pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:


Loud it please. It sucks when some peeps here thinks a player that plays primarily as a no 8 for is club is a DM. The fact that he sometimes plays as a DM doesn't make him a pure DM.
Some do it to push the Nwakali's agenda.

Just like i asked mostob and he never answered, "Who was Nwakali called to back up" since he said Onyeka is a back up to Ndidi..

Nwakali may start against Guinea Bissau cos we've already qualified, but no right thinking coach anywhere in the world will pick him over Onyeka..


No right thinking coach will bring in Onyeka who has a passing weakness to stabilize a chaotic midfield.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:52pm On Jan 16, 2022
We have been crying for years that since Mikel left, the team lacked a midfield conductor. Kelechi Nwakali came in yesterday and nailed a 92% passing accuracy. Is that not what is needed?

Yet people want to crucify the boy. We had a chaotic midfield yesterday. He came in and did his bit. Yet people want to rain fire.

Haba.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 1:54pm On Jan 16, 2022
DarkJeddi:


By implying a goal bound ball he stuck out a leg to save..

Was A TAME SHOT THAT HIT HIS LEG..

That is you implying the ball was not heading to goal..

That is you implying he knows nothing about stopping the ball from going in..

That is you discrediting his effort in saving a goal..

Like I said..

Give the devil his due..

Goal bound shot lmao, a mishit shot by an off balance Salah naim you dey give all these names, if e no save am make we remove am put plank there na, I repeat the credit to stopping Salah should be given to the defenders who did the job and not Okoye
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:55pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:


So our midfield was chaotic before he came in? grin

Are you trying to downplay Aribo or am i missing something.. Even though mikel was the president of backward passes, he protected the ball, dictated the pace of games, tackled like a monster, cherished wars and was smooth as silk.. Can you say the same about Nwakali?

Why do I need to downplay Aribo?

There is no need for that. He was brilliant. Having a chaotic midfield does not mean not playing well. It is about cutting risk of being exposed to counters because we play an exposed system.

It is about style of play. It is not about one being better than the other.

Nwakali has a midfield dictating style of play. Aribo is more adventurous. It has to do with what the coach wants at a particular time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 1:56pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


No right thinking coach will bring in Onyeka who has a passing weakness to stabilize a chaotic midfield.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 1:57pm On Jan 16, 2022
Mujtahida:

Bye bye to the Oyinbo wall but then again one has to be careful in dismissing players. Who would have believed that Ekong would post consistent commanding performances in the wake of his last two Pre-afcon games for us?
Rohr did something to the mind of our players. He was an excellent scout but not - so great as a coach.

The Oyibo wall is not gone because if Balogun decides to return to the team he would be claiming his place in the starting eleven as our best defender
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:59pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:


Someone seeing this might feel Nwakali is the next maradona or mikel. Oga, your highly rated Nwakali also cannot pass. Reason he resorted to making back passes.

He nailed a 92% passing accuracy yesterday. He did the job.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:00pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:


Someone seeing this might feel Nwakali is the next maradona or mikel. Oga, your highly rated Nwakali also cannot pass. Reason he resorted to making back passes.

This is Chidebere Nwakali, his elder brother.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:00pm On Jan 16, 2022
And in 25mins.

Only Aribo had a better passing accuracy and he lasted 65mins. Aribo nailed 94% passing accuracy.

Still with respect to passing, Nwakali only edged in passing in/into opposition half and also in ball recycling, both in lesser time.

Ndidi was the main culprit in terms of possession lost in the middle when he had Aribo with him. Aribo lost the ball less but Ndidi more.

But when Nwakali arrived on the scene, Ndidi hardly lost the ball. He got himself back. Nwakali brought the calm Ndidi rode on to finish the game.



TheGoodJoe:
We have been crying for years that since Mikel left, the team lacked a midfield conductor. Kelechi Nwakali came in yesterday and nailed a 92% passing accuracy. Is that not what is needed?

Yet people want to crucify the boy. We had a chaotic midfield yesterday. He came in and did his bit. Yet people want to rain fire.

Haba.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 2:03pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Nope. I disagree. It's komekn, Odenigbo and some others trying to make it look that way.


Truth is Both can play together. I have always said this.






Oga , stand your ground and make your arguments without throwing other people under the bus. I never compared them but due to the fact they both play in the midfield and this midfield has continued to struggle it requires thorough assessment , and possibly solutions. The questions should be ; Who plays there ? What do they bring and why is the midfield unable to hold possession and connect with attack. When we dissect thess issues bedevilling the team names of players come up.

I dont have anything against Aribo , all I ask of him is to bring stability to the team since its his responsibility....Aribo's duty is not to score but to instill a level of creativity and cohesion in the opponents area. Sadly , Aribo struggled to bring order in the first 25 minutes and it was during this time the midfield was in tatters. Yes , we scored an early goal which sort of concealed our apparent faults and lack of team play in the midfield.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 2:03pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


He nailed a 92% passing accuracy yesterday. He did the job.

Then you shouldn't have brought whoscored.com stats just to make onyeka seem like the worse passer of the ball when in reality Nwakali can't do it better than other midfielders.

How many decisive or key passes did he make yesterday?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:08pm On Jan 16, 2022
Focus on Aribo's strengths rather than his weakness.

He is no MF conductor but a hardworking and highly technical box-to-box midfielder who especially loves to attack the box.
So don't expect him to conduct plays. His style is different and he is bringing it to the table effectively.

Nwakali on the other hand is a MF conductor. So dictation/conduction will come easily to him. Finito.




IDENNAA:



Oga , stand your ground and make your arguments without throwing other people under the bus. I never compared them but due to the fact they both play in the midfield and this midfield has continued to struggle it requires thorough assessment , and possibly solutions. The questions should be ; Who plays there ? What do they bring and why is the midfield unable to hold possession and connect with attack. When we dissect thess issues bedevilling the team names of players come up.

I dont have anything against Aribo , all I ask of him is to bring stability to the team since its his responsibility....Aribo's duty is not to score but to instill a level of creativity and cohesion in the opponents area. Sadly , Aribo struggled to bring order in the first 25 minutes and it was during this time the midfield was in tatters. Yes , we scored an early goal which sort of concealed our apparent faults and lack of team play in the midfield.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 2:08pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


This is Chidebere Nwakali, his elder brother.
Oh my bad. There's virtually no stats about this kid.

What exactly has he done to warrant a call up? There's next to nothing on Nwakali except fantasies ..

He is a flash in the pan player and importantly, his overall workrate is not at the level of any of the midfielders we currently have...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 2:08pm On Jan 16, 2022
Samueltemi337:
Onyekuru replace iwobi


iwobi replace Nwakali


Nwakali comes in as a sub Olayinka too

You want to start Nwakali from the bench ? Your most gifted midfielder ? Are you not aware he should be starting games ahead of every other midfielder there if it wasn't for Rohr's shortsightedness.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:10pm On Jan 16, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Moses Simon was man of the Match

I said I should remind some of you guys

Oga meliforme what do you have to say about Moses Simon and how many possession did he lost yesterday grin

Kudos to Moses Daddy Simon for winning MOTM.
I am so happy for him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 2:12pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Focus on Aribo's strengths rather than his weakness.

He is no MF conductor but a hardworking and highly technical box-to-box midfielder who especially loves to attack the box.
So don't expect him to conduct plays. His style is different and he is bringing it to the table effectively.

Nwakali on the other hand is a MF conductor. So dictation/conduction will come easily to him. Finito.





Ok: I probably lost my day but might you remind me what is Aribi's duty as a midfielder who wears the legendary number 10. I want to know because he is not a striker.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:12pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:


Then you shouldn't have brought whoscored.com stats just to make onyeka seem like the worse passer of the ball when in reality Nwakali can't do it better than other midfielders.

How many decisive or key passes did he make yesterday?


That stat you showed was Chidebere Nwakali, not Kelechi Nwakali.

Secondly, I am not trying to downplay Frank Onyeka. No one is attacking your faves, so chill pill.

Players have strengths in their attributes. Midfield conducting and dictating is likely not Frank Onyeka's game. So do not use no coach will play this ahead of this. I have said repeatedly that football is not choosing game.

There are things Aribo brings that Nwakali can not bring. There are things Ndidi can bring, that Nwakali can't bring. Same with Onyeka etc. There are things Nwakali brings that they all can't bring. That is football.

As Okocha put it when talking about Iheanacho. "We all have our strengths and weaknesses."

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 2:14pm On Jan 16, 2022
By the way Cc.TheSuperNerd .... You haven't dropped Aribo's match day stats.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:14pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
We have been crying for years that since Mikel left, the team lacked a midfield conductor. Kelechi Nwakali came in yesterday and nailed a 92% passing accuracy. Is that not what is needed?

Yet people want to crucify the boy. We had a chaotic midfield yesterday. He came in and did his bit. Yet people want to rain fire.

Haba.
92% passing accuracy of which 70% were back passes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:18pm On Jan 16, 2022
IDENNAA:
By the way Cc.TheSuperNerd .... You haven't dropped Aribo's match day stats.

Are you ready to be stunned? grin

Spoiler: He worked harder than Ndidi on the day. Ndidi only got better later on in the presence of Nwakali.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:19pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:

Oh my bad. There's virtually no stats about this kid.

What exactly has he done to warrant a call up? There's next to nothing on Nwakali except fantasies ..

He is a flash in the pan player and importantly, his overall workrate is not at the level of any of the midfielders we currently have...



During Maigari's time, he had the Super Eagles camp together with all the junior teams. He somehow felt a synergy will come out of this. It somehow did. That was why Siasia could easily call up Osimhen into the Olympics team and Keshi could call Nacho for the CHAN team.

What I am saying is, I do not know how Eguavoen was in the mix at this time but he has a sincere belief in the ability of Nwakali.

It is something I liked in Pellegrini, he did not look at history but the talent he saw in the person. That was why a Riquelme that flopped in Barcelona became an Icon under him. A Forlan that flopped in Manchester United became the best striker in the world. That is why a Guiseppe Rossi that could not break into the Manchester United team became a brilliant revelation in the La Liga.

Same thing played out with Iheanacho. While people expected Pellegrini to spend big to bring in a striker, he put faith in an untested academy player (Iheanacho). And he did not fail.

Eguavoen is not looking at history. He is looking at the quality he sees in a player as a coach, and possibly a player he has watched over time.

On another note, when I watched Nwakali yesterday, I saw a bright star on display. He has a true gift with the ball. His first control was just sharp and followed it throughout the game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 2:19pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Focus on Aribo's strengths rather than his weakness.

He is no MF conductor but a hardworking and highly technical box-to-box midfielder who especially loves to attack the box.
So don't expect him to conduct plays. His style is different and he is bringing it to the table effectively.

Nwakali on the other hand is a MF conductor. So dictation/conduction will come easily to him. Finito.





Lol...wc conductor...shey na mushin olosha bus conductor aribo b grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:21pm On Jan 16, 2022
elyte89:


Lol...wc conductor...shey na mushin olosha bus conductor aribo b grin grin grin

Just say you don't understand the middle game dynamics I speak about. Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:22pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheSuperNerd:


Are you ready to be stunned? grin

Spoiler: He worked harder than Ndidi on the day. Ndidi only got better later on in the presence of Nwakali.

I had this idea that Eguavoen wants to explore the offensive side of Ndidi. That is like a Yaya Toure kind of player. What I feel is that Eguavoen has the idea that if Ndidi can perform with the ball as he does off-the-ball, we would have a footballing monster in our hands.

When Nwakali came in, I must attest, Ndidi looked fierce and dangerous. Like the development. Let us see how the team progressed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 2:22pm On Jan 16, 2022
sophtcopy:
Quick question pls,
Has Nigeria topped the group to qualified for the quater final with 6 points in hand? Even if Nigeria lose to E. Guinea(not possible tho) and Egypt beat Sudan with a wide goal margin

Simply put, is the head to head rule still applicable in AFCON?
Your first question is a no, we not confirmed as table toppers now because if super eagles loose by a goal margin we will be on +2, while Egypt winning by 3 goal margin they will top us and be on +3

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:24pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joe Aribo vs Sudan: Impressive showing.

Aribo in 65mins:

94% passing accuracy (43 accurate passes)
29 passes in own half.
14 passes in/into opposition half.
1/2 accurate long balls (50%)
1 shot on target
1 shot off target
100% dribbling success (2/2)
8/12 ground duels won
1/1 aerial duels won
4 tackles
2 interceptions
1 foul committed
Was fouled twice.
9 recoveries.
Lost possession 7 times.

Also, Had a key pass to Awoniyi that set up a very good cross pass that was not utilised in the end. The stats didn't pick that up as a Keypass but I do.



Cc Idennaa. You asked for it. wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:25pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:


Someone seeing this might feel Nwakali is the next maradona or mikel. Oga, your highly rated Nwakali also cannot pass. Reason he resorted to making back passes.

Not the same Nwakali bro

This is the elder Nwakali, the Nwakali in AFCON is Kelechi, not Chidiebere

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 2:25pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


That stat you showed was Chidebere Nwakali, not Kelechi Nwakali.

Secondly, I am not trying to downplay Frank Onyeka. No one is attacking your faves, so chill pill.

Players have strengths in their attributes. Midfield conducting and dictating is likely not Frank Onyeka's game. So do not use no coach will play this ahead of this. I have said repeatedly that football is not choosing game.

There are things Aribo brings that Nwakali can not bring. There are things Ndidi can bring, that Nwakali can't bring. Same with Onyeka etc. There are things Nwakali brings that they all can't bring. That is football.

As Okocha put it when talking about Iheanacho. "We all have our strengths and weaknesses."

And what exactly are the things Nwakali brings to the team? Passing accuracy of which half are back passes?

We understand why Nwakali is in the team.. All na marketing... Personally, I'm not against using the NT to advance the careers of talented players, but it needs to be transparent and it needs to be available to any special talent, not simply those with connected agents...

It should not be at the expense of more qualified players, hence it should be limited to friendlies and not tournament squads..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 2:26pm On Jan 16, 2022
safarigirl:


Not the same Nwakali bro

This is the elder Nwakali, the Nwakali in AFCON is Kelechi, not Chidiebere

Thanks Safari. Duly noted.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:26pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
We have been crying for years that since Mikel left, the team lacked a midfield conductor. Kelechi Nwakali came in yesterday and nailed a 92% passing accuracy. Is that not what is needed?

Yet people want to crucify the boy. We had a chaotic midfield yesterday. He came in and did his bit. Yet people want to rain fire.

Haba.


Good Joe, please, hype Nwakali all you want, but comot Mikel name in the hype. Thank you.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 2:26pm On Jan 16, 2022
Joezinho:


Someone seeing this might feel Nwakali is the next maradona or mikel. Oga, your highly rated Nwakali also cannot pass. Reason he resorted to making back passes.
Sorry what you dug up was for Chidiebere and not for Kelechi

So you can pull up the right one
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:28pm On Jan 16, 2022
He is not hyping. He is simply drawing a similarity based on how both Midfielders operate.

Mikel is a legend and cannot be compared to little Nwakali but they do have similar playing styles. Both are bonafide MF conductors. That is the point he makes.

safarigirl:



Good Joe, please, hype Nwakali all you want, but comot Mikel name in the hype. Thank you.

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