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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 3:23pm On Jan 25, 2022
Christistruth00:



In Love there is Understanding

Understand History from the Truth and not Propaganda


How would you feel if you were Wellington Bassey and Ojukwu who is 10 years your Junior Officer is now Promoted to Col at the same time with you by your Army Junior Gen Ironsi ?

What kind of Cheating was that

Is it any wonder that hardly any Efiks were interested in Ojukwus Biafra.

they had seen enough

Wellington Bassey was Efik

What actions did Azikiwe take when he knew that Officers were being promoted over the head of Wellington Bassey who was from his own Eastern Region and whose interest he was supposed to fight for and protect

I have searched and searched all I could find was where Azikiwe Complained to Gen Ironsi that he should not have made Ojukwu Governor of the East ahead of Gen Bassey and five others who were all Senior to Ojukwu

Oga you are just everywhere and not making sense. I asked how come the british made only Ademulegun, Maimalari and Ironsi brigadiers. Why are you so fixated on Zik and Ironsi so are you saying that it was only Ironsi that Zik rapidly promoted and delayed only Bassey. So Zik now commands the army or controls the army right have you forgotten with the advent of prime minister that Zik's post was ceremonial and that he had no control over anything? Oga this attempt at spreading hate is not ideal and you are only making a fool of yourself. The list you keep parading is already clear to all and no one is saying Ironsi was the first Nigerian to join the army that is a lie, but as at 1964 Ironsi was the most senior by rank that as the GOC of the army
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by christistruth01: 3:38pm On Jan 25, 2022
obynzo:


Oga you are just everywhere and not making sense. I asked how come the british made only Ademulegun, Maimalari and Ironsi brigadiers. Why are you so fixated on Zik and Ironsi so are you saying that it was only Ironsi that Zik rapidly promoted and delayed only Bassey. So Zik now commands the army or controls the army right have you forgotten with the advent of prime minister that Zik's post was ceremonial and that he had no control over anything? Oga this attempt at spreading hate is not ideal and you are only making a fool of yourself. The list you keep parading is already clear to all and no one is saying Ironsi was the first Nigerian to join the army that is a lie, but as at 1964 Ironsi was the most senior by rank that as the GOC of the army


It was the Nigerian Govt of Which Azikiwe was a part that made them Brigadiers In 1964 not the British


And Azikiwe didn't care that Bassey of his own Eastern Region was left out


When the British left it was Bassey that was the most Senior Army Officer

The remaining British Officers were in the Army in Contract and only offered Technical advice

If the British Officers offered Technical advice that Wellington Bassey be made a Brigadier and the Balewa/Azikiwe Coalition Government decided to Ignore their advice as they often did the British Officers who were Technical advisers to the Nigerian Army could do nothing

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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 3:50pm On Jan 25, 2022
Christistruth00:



In Love there is Understanding

Understand History from the Truth and not Propaganda


How would you feel if you were Wellington Bassey and Ojukwu who is 10 years your Junior Officer is now Promoted to Col at the same time with you by your Army Junior Gen Ironsi ?

What kind of Cheating was that

Is it any wonder that hardly any Efiks were interested in Ojukwus Biafra.

they had seen enough

Wellington Bassey was Efik

What actions did Azikiwe take when he knew that Officers were being promoted over the head of Wellington Bassey who was from his own Eastern Region and whose interest he was supposed to fight for and protect

I have searched and searched all I could find was where Azikiwe Complained to Gen Ironsi that he should not have made Ojukwu Governor of the East ahead of Gen Bassey and five others who were all Senior to Ojukwu , Of Which Bassey was the most Senior

Another lie from you. The British made Ironsi, Ademulegun and Maimalari Brigadiers because they wanted Nigerians to fill senior positions that were vacated by the British as they were preparing to handover in 1965 Oga you are just repeating everything like a broken record. You have no talk and as such your lie is being busted. My advice to you go and get some job and busy yourself this game has failed and is DOA
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 3:52pm On Jan 25, 2022
christistruth01:



It was the Nigerian Govt of Which Azikiwe was a part that made them Brigadiers In 1964 not the British


And Azikiwe didn't care that Bassey of his own Eastern Region was left out


When the British left it was Bassey that was the most Senior Army Officer

The remaining British Officers were in the Army in Contract and only offered Technical advice

If the British Officers offered Technical advice that Wellington Bassey[b]Oga show me evidence that they said Bassey be promoted to brigadier which is a big lie someone that was still Temporary Lt Col at that time[/b]
be made a Brigadier and the Balewa/Azikiwe Coalition Government decided to Ignore their advice as they often did they could do nothing
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by christistruth01: 3:55pm On Jan 25, 2022
obynzo:


Another lie from you. The British made Ironsi, Ademulegun and Maimalari Brigadiers because they wanted Nigerians to fill senior positions that were vacated by the British as they were preparing to handover in 1965 Oga you are just repeating everything like a broken record. You have no talk and as such your lie is being busted. My advice to you go and get some job and busy yourself this game has failed and is DOA



Sir

The British left Nigeria on October 1 1960

It was the Balewa/Azikiwe Nigerian Government that made them Brigadiers in 1964

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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 3:58pm On Jan 25, 2022
christistruth01:




Sir

The British left Nigeria on October 1 1960

It was the Balewa/Azikiwe Nigerian Government that made them Brigadiers in 1964


The British army fully handed over to Nigerians in 1964 stop lying through your teeth. The independence was for self governance in Nigeria in 1960
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by christistruth01: 4:04pm On Jan 25, 2022
obynzo:


The British army fully handed over to Nigerians in 1964 stop lying through your teeth. The independence was for self governance in Nigeria in 1960



No sir It was Gen Welby Everard who handed over as a British Technical Officer who was Nigerian Army head to Ironsi in 1965 and Ironsi took over Power within one Year

The Army was the Nigerian Army from the 1st of October 1960


The Nigerian Ministry of Defense Ribadu was still directly in Charge of the Nigerian Army and Azikiwe certainly had his ear

It was Ribadu that sent Ironsi on Training to England before he was Promoted to Army head and for your information Ironsi Performed so woefully on the Course that Lord Mountbatten on behalf of the British Personally wrote the Nigerian Government and advised against Ironsi being made the head of the Nigerian Army

The letter is in the British Archives and you can get a Copy if you order over the internet

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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by christistruth01: 4:19pm On Jan 25, 2022
Don't you find it annoying how Wellington Duke Umoh Bassey Of Calabar And his Army Career were almost destroyed to make way for his junior Officer Gen Ironsi to Emerge as the Head of Army

Azikiwe was supposed to have been fighting for all of Bassey's delayed Promotions since Bassey was from Calabar in Azikiwe's Eastern Region
To add insult to injury they tried to eliminate Bassey during the Jan 1966 Coup

Ironsi Got to Power again only to make Ojukwu who was 11 years Basseys Junior Officer the Governor of the Eastern Region

But to be honest Azikiwe complained to Ironsi about that one


Just look at what Azikiwe wrote in his book
" Origins of the Nigerian Civil War " on pages 1 and 2 admitting that Gen Ironsi had played the Tribalism Card on Wellington Bassey to make Ojukwu who was 11 years his Junior Officer the Governor of the Eastern Region

Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 4:26pm On Jan 25, 2022
christistruth01:




No sir It was Gen Welby Everad who handed over as a British Technical Officer who was Nigerian Army head in 1964

The Army was the Nigerian Army from the 1st of October 1960


The Nigerian Ministry of Defense Ribadu was still directly in Charge of the Nigerian Army and Azikiwe certainly had his ear

It was Ribadu that sent Ironsi on Training to England before he was Promoted to Army head and for your information Ironsi Performed so woefully on the Course that Lord Mountbatten on behalf of the British Personally wrote the Nigerian Government and advised against Ironsi being made the head of the Nigerian Army

The letter is in the British Archives and you can get a Copy if you order over the internet

You are a bigger liar. Ironsi didn't go for any professional course since 1961 Ironsi was Military attachee Nigerian high commission London from 1962 he was made commander UN forces in the Congo he held that position until 1964 when he came back. Ribadu never sent him on any course oga do you think we don't know history here. Again Zik's position is rather ceremonial the person that had Ribadu's ear was Balewa his boss. Oga we know our history you cannot be twisting it to incite hatred against the igbo
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by christistruth01: 4:47pm On Jan 25, 2022
obynzo:


You are a bigger liar. Ironsi didn't go for any professional course since 1961 Ironsi was Military attachee Nigerian high commission London from 1962 he was made commander UN forces in the Congo he held that position until 1964 when he came back. Ribadu never sent him on any course oga do you think we don't know history here. Again Zik's position is rather ceremonial the person that had Ribadu's ear was Balewa his boss. Oga we know our history you cannot be twisting it to incite hatred against the igbo


Liar,

Which year did Ironsi finish the Imperial Defence College Training in the UK if it was not in 1964

Sorry that means you have no idea about the Courses and Trainings Ironsi attended

And where did Azikiwe who was Wellington Bassey's Eastern Regions Political Leader abandon Bassey

-------in a Captains posting at Zaria Depot training Recruits

Do you see how Scandalous it all is

Azikiwe should have just gone out of his way to Win Bassey over to his side instead of persecuting him and frustrating his Army Career

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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 5:19pm On Jan 25, 2022
christistruth01:



Liar,

Which year did Ironsi finish the Imperial Defence College Training in the UK if it was not in 1964

Sorry that means you have no idea about the Courses and Trainings Ironsi attended

And where did Azikiwe who was Wellington Bassey's Eastern Regions Political Leader abandon Bassey

-------in a Captains posting at Zaria Depot training Recruits

Do you see how Scandalous it all is

Azikiwe should have just gone out of his way to Win Bassey over to his side instead of persecuting him and frustrating his Army Career




Ahhhh grin grin grin grin grin you are the biggest liar that ever lived which one is imperial defence college or are you referring to Imperial college where civillians like us go to do Bsc and Msc? Oga you don't even know how to lie self. Again there are two military colleges in the UK. Royal Military Academy Sandhurst and Mons Officers Cadet School Aldershot where Obasanjo, Ifeajuna and Co were Alumni. Ohhhh my God you are so hilarious in your attempt to spread lies to an extent i believe you may be suffering from mental schizophrenia or you are just a deranged person.
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by christistruth01: 5:31pm On Jan 25, 2022
obynzo:


Ahhhh grin grin grin grin grin you are the biggest liar that ever lived which one is imperial defence college or are you referring to Imperial college where civillians like us go to do Bsc and Msc? Oga you don't even know how to lie self. Again there are two military colleges in the UK. Royal Military Academy Sandhurst and Mons Officers Cadet School Aldershot where Obasanjo, Ifeajuna and Co were Alumni. Ohhhh my God you are so hilarious in your attempt to spread lies to an extent i believe you may be suffering from mental schizophrenia or you are just a deranged person.

I am replying you for the sake of Nigerians that want to learn real History


Imperial Defence College was attended by Senior Officers from all over the British Commonwealth

Ironsi attended it in 1964 and on his return was promoted to a Brigadier

Your resorting to Insults is a sign of Victory because the True Facts have beaten you hands down


No matter what God's Truth and Justice must Prevail over lies and Propaganda

Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 5:31pm On Jan 25, 2022
christistruth01:




No sir It was Gen Welby Everard who handed over as a British Technical Officer who was Nigerian Army head to Ironsi in 1965 and Ironsi took over Power within one Year

The Army was the Nigerian Army from the 1st of October 1960


The Nigerian Ministry of Defense Ribadu was still directly in Charge of the Nigerian Army and Azikiwe certainly had his ear

It was Ribadu that sent Ironsi on Training to England before he was Promoted to Army head and for your information Ironsi Performed so woefully on the Course that Lord Mountbatten on behalf of the British Personally wrote the Nigerian Government and advised against Ironsi being made the head of the Nigerian Army

The letter is in the British Archives and you can get a Copy if you order over the internet

You say he was inept so how come an inept person went on to command UN troops in Congo?
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 5:34pm On Jan 25, 2022
christistruth01:


I am replying you for the sake of Nigerians that want to learn real History

Pump up your brakes bro stop trying to sound smart here . There is no Imperial defence college Ironsi could not have been in Royal college of defence studies when he left in 1961 as defence attachee in Nigerian high commision and went straight to command UN troops in Congo. Now if say he went as you erroneously put, how come someone who failed woefully was considered by the UN worthy to command troops in Congo?
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 6:38am On Jan 26, 2022
obynzo:


Pump up your brakes bro stop trying to sound smart here . There is no Imperial defence college Ironsi could not have been in Royal college of defence studies when he left in 1961 as defence attachee in Nigerian high commision and went straight to command UN troops in Congo. Now if say he went as you erroneously put, how come someone who failed woefully was considered by the UN worthy to command troops in Congo?

Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 7:04am On Jan 26, 2022
grin

Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 7:19am On Jan 26, 2022
Christistruth00:




Dude you are really confirmed my earlier postulations that you are a very dense fellow. I stated in my comments in earlier posts that Everald stated that Ironsi never held batallion command posts because he was always never in the country. That was because of his role as UN commander. Oga you are not proving anything Zik never played any favoritism in Ironsi's appointment and the table of army command which you put to butress your point still makes no sense. because Ironsi was appointed Army GOC in 1965 and the table you put shows 1966 Oga your attempt at inciting igbo hatred is failing, dude go and get busy with something else and stop accwpting money from paid mischievous politicians.
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 7:21am On Jan 26, 2022
Christistruth00:
grin

But whose fault was it that wellington was still a Lt Col by then. The post he had is more of an admin role.
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 7:22am On Jan 26, 2022
Christistruth00:
grin

There was no comparison with Ojukwu as he was an Officer and he was a graduate before being commissioned into the army.
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 9:07am On Jan 26, 2022
obynzo:


There was no comparison with Ojukwu as he was an Officer and he was a graduate before being commissioned into the army.



Rubbish !!

Was Ironsi also a Graduate?

Gowon had no Problem Promoting Wellington Bassey to Brigadier only 7 months later In 1966 after he took Power

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/gen-adeyinka-adebayos-last-interview-echoes-of-january-15-1966-coup-why-the-army-struck/

Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 9:59am On Jan 26, 2022
Christistruth00:




Rubbish !!

Was Ironsi also a Graduate?

Gowon had no Problem Promoting Wellington Bassey to Brigadier only 7 months later In 1966 after he took Power

Oga that does not hold water. Gowon wanted to win allies that was why he did it because it was even contravening military ethics. meaning he skipped Colonel and became brigadier is that what you call cool. Oga go and sleep jare you are just stupid and dense you are so obsessed with igbo hatred when Balewa was in control of the army all the promotions were ratified by him even the british who still had technical control in the army up till 1964 end didn't promote so how was it Zik's fault. Oga you need to be arrested for hate speech and i am sending a copy of this to DSS so that you would be tracked. Enough is Enough

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/gen-adeyinka-adebayos-last-interview-echoes-of-january-15-1966-coup-why-the-army-struck/



Why are you so dense and daft. Ironsi rose through the ranks isn't it not what we said. Even at that his promotion and rise was not as rapid as people who became officers straight like Maimalari and Ojukwu who was a graduate and went straight to officers corps
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 12:46pm On Jan 26, 2022
obynzo:


Why are you so dense and daft. Ironsi rose through the ranks isn't it not what we said. Even at that his promotion and rise was not as rapid as people who became officers straight like Maimalari and Ojukwu who was a graduate and went straight to officers corps

obynzo:

Oga that does not hold water. Gowon wanted to win allies that was why he did it because it was even contravening military ethics. meaning he skipped Colonel and became brigadier is that what you call cool. Oga go and sleep jare you are just stupid and dense you are so obsessed with igbo hatred when Balewa was in control of the army all the promotions were ratified by him even the british who still had technical control in the army up till 1964 end didn't promote so how was it Zik's fault. Oga you need to be arrested for hate speech and i am sending a copy of this to DSS so that you would be tracked. Enough is Enough



The fact you are full of Bitterness and Hate doesn’t mean everybody is like you.
This is a History Thread and it is about the actions of Gen Ironsi
History is based on Truthful facts and not lying Propaganda

The History here will increase the Understanding of all Nigerians no matter where they come from and help them to see better the evils of Tribalism and why brotherly love is it’s cure.


Let me Politely remind you that every Single Nigerian Brigadier in the Nigerian Army including Gen Ironsi were all Wellington Bassey’s Juniors

Gowon only gave Wellington Bassey his very overdue Promotion to Brigadier

Remember that Gen Ironsi who was Bassey’s Junior was already a Major General by the time he was killed
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 1:11pm On Jan 26, 2022
Christistruth00:





The fact you are full of Bitterness and Hate doesn’t mean everybody is like you.
This is a History Thread and it is about the actions of Gen Ironsi


History is based of Truthful facts and not lying Propaganda


Let me Politely remind you that every Single Nigerian Brigadier in the Nigerian Army including Gen Ironsi were all Wellington Bassey’s Juniors

Gowon only gave Wellington Bassey his very overdue Promotion to Brigadier

Remember that Gen Ironsi who was Bassey’s Junior was already a Major General by the time he was killed

Oga why are you projecting your bitterness on me? you are the one busy blaming Zik and Ironsi for delaying Wellington Bassey's promotion forgetting that it was the British high command that delayed his promotion because he lacked the drive to move ahead compared to his contemporaries like Ironsi and Ademulegun and again after the British left the control of the army was in the hands of the prime minister Balewa and the defence minister Ribadu so how was it Zik's fault? Did Wellington Bassey send a protest to Zik to look into his case? if he did where is the documented protest letter? i doubt if he had it. Now let me warn you if you continue with this i promise you i will send this screenshot to DSS and they will begin to track you for hate speech this nonsense has to stop.
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 1:13pm On Jan 26, 2022
obynzo:


Oga why are you projecting your bitterness on me? you are the one busy blaming Zik and Ironsi for delaying Wellington Bassey's promotion forgetting that it was the British high command that delayed his promotion because he lacked the drive to move ahead compared to his contemporaries like Ironsi and Ademulegun and again after the British left the control of the army was in the hands of the prime minister Balewa and the defence minister Ribadu so how was it Zik's fault? Did Wellington Bassey send a protest to Zik to look into his case? if he did where is the documented protest letter? i doubt if he had it. Now let me warn you if you continue with this i promise you i will send this screenshot to DSS and they will begin to track you for hate speech this nonsense has to stop.


Go back to read your Hate Speech and Insults

This is a History Thread that is based on facts
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 1:14pm On Jan 26, 2022
Christistruth00:



Go back to read your Hate Speech

Look if you continue in this line. I have all your comments and all the inciting hate speeches from you as evidence which i will send to DSS for incitement and hate speech
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 1:15pm On Jan 26, 2022
obynzo:


Look if you continue in this line. I have all your comments and all the inciting hate speeches from you as evidence which i will send to DSS for incitement and hate speech



Kindly go ahead and do so quickly please
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 1:16pm On Jan 26, 2022
Christistruth00:




Kindly go ahead and do so

just one more incitement and hate speech from you and you will see what will happen
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 1:21pm On Jan 26, 2022
obynzo:


just one more incitement and hate speech from you and you will see what will happen


Please kindly go ahead and do so right now

Thank you in advance

You can not stop anyone from narrating History Truthfully and honestly with all your Hate and Threats

Please I am waiting ,


Hurry up

By the Way Gen Ironsi and Ojukwu were Part of the January Coup

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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 1:25pm On Jan 26, 2022
Christistruth00:



Please kindly go ahead and do so right now

Thank you in advance

You can not stop anyone from narrating History Truthfully and honestly with all your Hate and Threats

Oga there is no atom of truth i have asked you again did Wellington Bassey protest to Ironsi or to Zik and he wasn't heard? again i ask is it Zik that controls the army or Balewa and Ribadu? Bros if you don have an answer to this then i will tag this as incitement. whatever you are saying should not be a subtle incitement of hatred against a tribe that is what you are doing and the next incitement from you will warrant a response that you will not like
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 1:28pm On Jan 26, 2022
obynzo:


Oga there is no atom of truth i have asked you again did Wellington Bassey protest to Ironsi or to Zik and he wasn't heard? again i ask is it Zik that controls the army or Balewa and Ribadu? Bros if you don have an answer to this then i will tag this as incitement. whatever you are saying should not be a subtle incitement of hatred against a tribe that is what you are doing and the next incitement from you will warrant a response that you will not like


Hurry up I am still waiting for the DSS you went to Call

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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Nobody: 1:37pm On Jan 26, 2022
Christistruth00:



Hurry up I am still waiting for the DSS you went to Call

Post another inciteful comment first then you would know that you can be tracked easily
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 1:58pm On Jan 26, 2022
obynzo:


Post another inciteful comment first then you would know that you can be tracked easily


Liar

How is the Story of Wellington Umoh Bassey Of Calabar and what he suffered at the hands of Azikiwe and Ironsi incitement

Do you want me to be lying

You do not Correct Historical Mistakes by running away from History


If you cannot deal with History pray for God to Give you the Humility and Wisdom to handle it Correctly

What Azikiwe and Ironsi did to Wellington Bassey was very Scandalous

And for What ?


Power that Ironsi did not even live to enjoy

Power that turned Ojukwu against Azikiwe

Power that led to unnecessary Massacres and Civil War



Hurry up I am waiting !!

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