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MaxInDHouse:
OK, you have denied the atheist.
Thanks for this.
Next!

johnw47

i don't know anything about oteneaaron, haven't been reading his posts

MaxInDHouse:
So because i mentioned your name in a post is that why you want to hook me up with your stupidity?

MaxInDHouse: John abeg go sleep jàre!

achorladey:
You see your mode of operation. LIE FIRST........... DENY THE LIE...... ADMIT YOU LIE......... TRY TO SAVE FACE AFTERWARDS

Abeg no vex bro. I didn't intend to put it like that. I wanted to say "your craps" not "you craps"

But you believe 144,000 only goes to heaven and those that are studying the Bible with you already taught you their religious denominations practice the purest form of worship of which include the teaching that most of 144,000 are in heaven already and only the remnant remain here. You understand your beliefs at all? Abi you just pack am put for head without filtering it?

Perhaps you didn't get the whole picture
The first man was created to live, multiply and dominate the earth. We humans have physical bodies unlike angels and other beings in heaven. But Man sinned and through him death, suffering, evil were passed down from generations to generations. Jesus came to restore the perfect life Adam lost and eternal life here on earth.

Did God change His purpose for the earth?
Or will He do everything to restore it back?
Is the kingdom of God the same as heaven?
Is heaven same as paradise?
Will all good people go to heaven and live there forever?
What happens to earth?
Is there anything like new earth?
I'm asking these questions to know what your beliefs are and how to respond your comments

Emphasis on your, did you see my name attached to any blogs online stating TRINITY according to Achorladey? Na me write, create blogs like trinity according to Achorladey? Learn learn

It's online doesn't mean it's biblical or a criterion over the Bible

Just like your present religious organization and leaders do over their +/- 140 years of existence. Manipulate scripture to suit their agenda over the years of existence.
Like someone said, what the Catholic was for centuries and millennium possibly it took your religious organisation half a century to do the COPYCAT Learn.

I didn't get your point

And those who believed in TRINITY do they love God the FATHER?

A. YES

B. NO

C. Free me make I japa.

D. I choose to Learn

They don't seem to know the Father, they rather focus on Jesus. They even say the Father is Jesus. Very unscriptural!

Meaning you have to call Jesus. Without that your prayer no pass your roof.



Since you know David call God without going through Jesus, why did you still exercise faith in Jesus instead of just going directly to God. Why wasting time and going through different channels

There's only one way or channel to the Father, Jesus Christ. Jesus is always some kind of middle man to God.

achorladey Rosement:
God's truth is in the Bible I have seen the truth hidden by the Jehovah’s witnesses religion. Learn no dey reason from one part of the divide.

Tell us the truth they hid o. Trinity Abi?

Will believing the TRINITY stop you from loving God and then loving your neighbour as yourself?

Won't it stop you from worshipping the Father in spirit and TRUTH
Is God the Father not the one God we have? 1 Corinthians 8:6

THE FATHER IS SUPREME OVER ALL!

Nobody555:
Una de yawn nonsense. Pls how does being subjected to another higher being prove Trinity? Una no de think?
Jesus is the almighty God and yet he go still drop power to almighty God. Wahala and confusion be like person wey believe Trinity Omo you no even need to belong to the JW before you see that Trinity no conform with the bible at all.
Where is the co-equal, co-powerful and co-existence?
Wetin be una explanation to 1 Corinthians 15:24-28
All the power and authority Jesus have na God give am, what does that tell you Co powerful or equal Abi
Na God give Jesus name.
Hebrews 1:4
[4]This shows that the Son is far greater than the angels, just as the name God gave him is greater than their names.

Nobody555:
Una de yawn nonsense. Pls how does being subjected to another higher being prove Trinity? Una no de think?
Jesus is the almighty God and yet he go still drop power to almighty God. Wahala and confusion be like person wey believe Trinity Omo you no even need to belong to the JW before you see that Trinity no conform with the bible at all.
Where is the co-equal, co-powerful and co-existence?
Wetin be una explanation to 1 Corinthians 15:24-28
All the power and authority Jesus have na God give am, what does that tell you Co powerful or equal Abi

Na God give Jesus name.
Hebrews 1:4
[4]This shows that the Son is far greater than the angels, just as the name God gave him is greater than their names.

Una de yawn nonsense.

Una no de think?

MaxInDHouse:
They know what they're doing that's why Jesus said they will never be forgiven {Matthew 12:31-32} this topic is about JWs stand on blood transfusion, they want to prove that JWs are wrong not because they have something tangible to say against God's standard but they just feel like accusing God's people.
So in a bid to condemn God's people they will raise different irrelevant topics only to end up shooting themselves in the foot! Isaiah 54:17
The TRUTH is clear from the definition of the title "GOD" which is "the supreme being" only faithful people (not perfect) will agree that we must be united in the same line of thought regarding right and wrong if truly we're all worshipers of the same God.
WHY?
Because authority simply connotes orderliness and there can't be orderliness when we choose to disagree on standard.
So when they look around them and see the one and only group having the same line of thought on standard they become agitated instead of glorifying the Supreme Being who has made it possible for imperfect humans to come under one umbrella and do things in common.
That's why Jesus said:

"whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come" Matthew 12:32

The son of man here simply is Jesus the son of Mary but the Holy Spirit is the force that's working out all the things expected of the Christ. So if anyone speak against Jesus there's no wahala because he's just a carpenter trained by Joseph his foster father therefore God will forgive such a person. But whoever opens his mouth to speak against the Christ after seeing the things that no man can do surely will never be forgiven because he is not condemning Jesus but the Christ (the one who has displayed all the qualities expected of the promised Messiah)

In the same manner whoever speaks against those 8 old men in America because he doesn't know why they set some rules binding on millions of people globally will be forgiven but whoever opens his mouth to speak against the Governing Body that has made millions across the globe zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word just as Jesus ordered {Matthew 28:19-20} that has made them obedient to the same line of thought {John 17:22} that has turn them into peaceloving citizens everywhere they are {Romans 13:1-3} that has erased military services, racism and politics from their hearts {Isaiah 2:2-4} that has made them like one family even when they're from different races throughout the earth {Matthew 12:46-50} surely such a person is speaking against the spirit of God that's doing what is necessary in this endtime and he will never be forgiven!

In the same manner whoever speaks against those 8 old men in America because he doesn't know why they set some rules binding on millions of people globally will be forgiven but whoever opens his mouth to speak against the Governing Body that has made millions across the globe zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word just as Jesus ordered {Matthew 28:19-20} that has made them obedient to the same line of thought {John 17:22} that has turn them into peaceloving citizens everywhere they are {Romans 13:1-3} that has erased military services, racism and politics from their hearts {Isaiah 2:2-4} that has made them like one family even when they're from different races throughout the earth {Matthew 12:46-50} surely such a person is speaking against the spirit of God that's doing what is necessary in this endtime and he will never be forgiven! smiley

MaxInDHouse:
They know what they're doing that's why Jesus said they will never be forgiven {Matthew 12:31-32} this topic is about JWs stand on blood transfusion, they want to prove that JWs are wrong not because they have something tangible to say against God's standard but they just feel like accusing God's people.
So in a bid to condemn God's people they will raise different irrelevant topics only to end up shooting themselves in the foot! Isaiah 54:17
The TRUTH is clear from the definition of the title "GOD" which is "the supreme being" only faithful people (not perfect) will agree that we must be united in the same line of thought regarding right and wrong if truly we're all worshipers of the same God.
WHY?
Because authority simply connotes orderliness and there can't be orderliness when we choose to disagree on standard.
So when they look around them and see the one and only group having the same line of thought on standard they become agitated instead of glorifying the Supreme Being who has made it possible for imperfect humans to come under one umbrella and do things in common.
That's why Jesus said:

"whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come" Matthew 12:32

The son of man here simply is Jesus the son of Mary but the Holy Spirit is the force that's working out all the things expected of the Christ. So if anyone speak against Jesus there's no wahala because he's just a carpenter trained by Joseph his foster father therefore God will forgive such a person. But whoever opens his mouth to speak against the Christ after seeing the things that no man can do surely will never be forgiven because he is not condemning Jesus but the Christ (the one who has displayed all the qualities expected of the promised Messiah)

In the same manner whoever speaks against those 8 old men in America because he doesn't know why they set some rules binding on millions of people globally will be forgiven but whoever opens his mouth to speak against the Governing Body that has made millions across the globe zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word just as Jesus ordered {Matthew 28:19-20} that has made them obedient to the same line of thought {John 17:22} that has turn them into peaceloving citizens everywhere they are {Romans 13:1-3} that has erased military services, racism and politics from their hearts {Isaiah 2:2-4} that has made them like one family even when they're from different races throughout the earth {Matthew 12:46-50} surely such a person is speaking against the spirit of God that's doing what is necessary in this endtime and he will never be forgiven!

In the same manner whoever speaks against those 8 old men in America because he doesn't know why they set some rules binding on millions of people globally will be forgiven but whoever opens his mouth to speak against the Governing Body that has made millions across the globe zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word just as Jesus ordered {Matthew 28:19-20} that has made them obedient to the same line of thought {John 17:22} that has turn them into peaceloving citizens everywhere they are {Romans 13:1-3} that has erased military services, racism and politics from their hearts {Isaiah 2:2-4} that has made them like one family even when they're from different races throughout the earth {Matthew 12:46-50} surely such a person is speaking against the spirit of God that's doing what is necessary in this endtime and he will never be forgiven! smiley

achorladey:
Traditions of men at it best when speaking against 8 that said they can only give imperfect spiritual food and are not inspired means sinning against the Holy spirit.

Abeg no vex bro. I didn't intend to put it like that. I wanted to say "your craps" not "you craps"

Did God change His purpose for the earth? Or will He do everything to restore it back? Is the kingdom of God the same as heaven? Is heaven same as paradise? Will all good people go to heaven and live there forever? What happens to earth? Is there anything like new earth?

No one knows who goes to heaven, you don work for there before

I'm asking these questions to know what your beliefs are and how to respond your comments

It's online doesn't mean it's biblical or a criterion over the Bible

I didn't get your point

So you fit hold the bible make you no understand am or blindly give different interpretation to it base on others opinions

They don't seem to know the Father, they rather focus on Jesus. They even say the Father is Jesus. Very unscriptural!

There's only one way or channel to the Father, Jesus Christ. Jesus is always some kind of middle man to God.

achorladey:
I told you earlier learn. You no gree. You have come around to admit your initial stands.

I told you it was a mistake bro. If you can't accept a simple apology that's your problem. I was referring to your posts as craps not your person!

But you know 144,000 are the only ones going to heaven and they are all dominated by members of Jehovah's Witnesses? You agree?

Those are people God will choose from every part of the world. The kingdom consists of anointed people that had died from the time of the early church till now.
Na every body de go heaven? Show us from the Bible?

Bible teaches that the kingdom will rule the earth. Who will they rule on?

It is of no use to what I ask you above.

Good you know that. My point is, those things written online are they the works of Achorladey?

I don't know. I no be witch, you fit de disguise

Your problem be like the conversation below:

Philip said to him: “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.”
9 Jesus said to him: “Even after I have been with you men for such a long time, Philip, have you not come to know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father also.+ How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Hebrews 1:1-4
[1]Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways to our ancestors through the prophets.
[2]And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe.
[3]The Son radiates God’s own glory and expresses the very character of God, and he sustains everything by the mighty power of his command. When he had cleansed us from our sins, he sat down in the place of honor at the right hand of the majestic God in heaven.
[4]This shows that the Son is far greater than the angels, just as the name God gave him is greater than their names.

Colossians 1:15
[15]Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
    He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,

Don't go about speculating what you don't know. .

I know what I'm saying and it's what the bible teaches. That's why I go about preaching it!

And those who believed in TRINITY do they love God the Father?

Those who believe in Trinity do they know the Father? Don't they erroneous take the Father as Jesus?

But you your religious leaders states the below about the beloved God's truth they cherish

That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel." Watchtower 2013 Jul 15 p.20

This ain't what we were discussing. We were talking about praying, who do we pray to....

achorladey:
Na so una mode of operation be, and when someone sees themselves as best and others as craps and worthless the below is what we follow.

Are you a crap and worthless?
CORNELBOY said it was a mistake and apologized

It is the same nonsense you are agitating about trying to fathom why many believed it and you have been going back and forth with for two weeks .

Lol why would i need to fanthom why many believe in Trinity, i already know.
When lie is told over and over, it becomes the Truth.
Trinity is roman Catholic dogma. It's the product of hot debate and arguments in the creeds not from the holy spirit.

And you come to the platform to come discuss with people wey no dey think and you see them as people wey no dey think because they don't dance to your tune.

They literally don't dance to Bible's tune not mine!

I told you it was a mistake bro. If you can't accept a simple apology that's your problem. I was referring to your posts as craps not your person!

Bible teaches that the kingdom will rule the earth. Who will they rule on?

I don't know. I no be witch, you fit de disguise

The Son radiates God’s own glory and expresses the very character of God

I know what I'm saying and it's what the bible teaches. That's why I go about preaching it

Those who believe in Trinity do they know the Father? Don't they erroneous take the Father as Jesus?

This ain't what we were discussing. We were talking about praying, who do we pray to

Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel

Are you a crap and worthless?
CORNELBOY said it was a mistake and apologized

Lol why would i need to fanthom why many believe in Trinity, i already know. When lie is told over and over, it becomes the Truth. Trinity is roman Catholic dogma. It's the product of hot debate and arguments in the creeds not from the holy spirit.

They literally don't dance to Bible's tune not mine

achorladey:
E Pele ti yin, Mr Nobody101010



Is it nonsense or not nonsense?

The reason I added.....

It is the same nonsense you are agitating about trying to fathom why many believed it and you have been going back and forth with for two weeks

Learn to follow discussion. Enjoy your nonsense discussion abi?




When those who you are in discussion with come to defend trinity with that same Bible and don't let go their belief of the TRINITY, You go on and said they are YAWNING NONSENSE to you . The Bible don't have mouth to say they are YAWNING nonsense literally to it or the Bible don't have mouth to say literally that they don't dance to his TUNE.

You go learn last last.

achorladey:
E Pele ti yin, Mr Nobody101010



Is it nonsense or not nonsense?

The reason I added.....

It is the same nonsense you are agitating about trying to fathom why many believed it and you have been going back and forth with for two weeks

Learn to follow discussion. Enjoy your nonsense discussion abi?




When those who you are in discussion with come to defend trinity with that same Bible and don't let go their belief of the TRINITY, You go on and said they are YAWNING NONSENSE to you . The Bible don't have mouth to say they are YAWNING nonsense literally to it or the Bible don't have mouth to say literally that they don't dance to his TUNE.

You go learn last last.

cornelboy:
What's this one say na

Nobody555:
Which mod of weed you de smoke

MaxInDHouse:
Go on speaking against the 8 old men and you are justified because they are uninspired and fallible {1Corinthians 13:9} but speak against the fine WORKS they are doing with millions of people under their supervision across the globe {Matthew 7:16-18} and don't forget to present a better performing group {James 2:18-26} that's headed by imperfect humans like the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 12:31-32

Go on speaking against the 8 old men

but speak against the fine WORKS they are doing with millions of people under their supervision across the globe

achorladey:
Na so e dey be. When you demean the religious leaders of other Christian denominations, your body go dey sweet you all over the place. You forget they are just like your eight old men too. Now that the stuff was switched to your end. You begin to calm down.

achorladey:
The religious leaders of other Christian denominations don't have FINE WORKS you know . The reason you speak against them up and down on nairaland.

MaxInDHouse:
This is where you failed woefully!
I just told you that we (both you and i) can speak against any religious leader but i will never raise my tongue against FINE WORKS that only God's active force can make possible!
That's the clear difference between a righteous and the wicked. Both of them do criticize but while the wicked will continue to criticize even when he can see FINE WORKS the righteous will stop immediately once the fine WORKS are listed to him.
John baptized Jesus but after sometime he began asking if Jesus is truly the Christ we are expecting. So we have the right to criticize if what we're expecting isn't happening but at the mention of the fine WORKS righteous John was convinced that Jesus is truly the Christ! Matthew 11:2-6
So nobody blames you for criticism but your criticism becomes an act of wickedness when you can't see any better performance elsewhere!

John the baptist criticized other religious leaders.
WHY?
Because they're not producing the fruitage that's expected according to God's word! Matthew 3:8
So if you know their fine WORKS (FRUIT) according to what was written in the Bible please present it! Matthew 7:16-18
Thank you in advance!

So nobody blames you for criticism but your criticism becomes an act of wickedness when you can't see any better performance elsewhere

but i will never raise my tongue against FINE WORKS that only God's active force can make possible

Kumuyi, a decent man! Well maybe because you don't understand God's word, he is just a modern day Pharisee

Walahi talahi Nigerians won't stop amusing me. A Yahoo (Big) Boy cursing his younger brother

So never think i have any interest in you or your faithless cohorts but as long as you're on any thread that has to do with JWs i will quote you and keep reminding you that you're just deceiving yourself because nobody from any other religion can give you satisfying answer to your question apart from Jehovah's Witnesses

I noticed how your threads are filled with faithless commentators arguing fruitlessly on simple questions that a teenager in JW would have helped you solve but since your reaction to the INJECTION of truth is negative i know that you will still come back to JWs begging for our response as you're well aware that there's nothing tangible in the brains of misinformed Churchgoers

So if you know their fine WORKS (FRUIT) according to what was written in the Bible please present it! Matthew 7:16-18Thank you in advance!

This is where you failed woefully

achorladey:
Hahahahahaha
The rules has always been LIE FIRST....... DENY THE LIES........... ADMIT THE LIES......... SAVE FACE.
When I quote the Awake article on SELF DEFENSE [/b]to someone who needs [b]information related to that topic, what was your reaction?
He wants to hide "only God's active force can make possible", here are your words below
You go soon run
Hungry for someone to massage your self righteous . Na your words I go still use. You can not better when you said those of your religious organization are influenced by the Devil and sin like every other religious organization like yours.
Let's I forget over 41,000 religionist with confusing doctrines don't perform FINE WORKS. You remember.
Learn you no gree.
If something is not missing, it will be failure. Om thing or the other must be lacking. Continue to peddle failure and misses. Na your palaver.

MaxInDHouse:
Chai see failure torí Ọlọ́run!

According to God's word can you list the fruit of their faith?
Start with Kumuyi if you trust him!

According to God's word can you list the fruit of their faith

achorladey:
See as e run comot from the first part
What is the fruit of faith in Bible you have, bring am make we mark the register together as e concern Kumuyi

MaxInDHouse:
(1) Jesus sent his disciples to go throughout the earth and make disciples {Matthew 28:19-20 Compare to Act 1:8} JWs have gone throughout all the earth!
(2) Jesus ordered his followers to love their neighbours {Matthew 22:39} so they mustn't tag anyone as foe to the point of planning to kill {Matthew 5:43-48} JWs go visiting their neighbours uninvited and never planning to kill anyone! Matthew 26:52
(3) Jesus taught his followers that they are no part of the world so they're not to support any side against another {John 15:19; 17:14-16} JWs will never support any political party against anyone!
{4} Jesus ordered his followers not to revenge nor defend any city {Matthew 10:23} Jehovah's Witnesses have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:2-4
{5} Jesus prayed that his followers should have the same line of thought {John 17:22} throughout the world today Jehovah's Witnesses have the same line of thought!
{6} Jesus taught his followers that love must be their IDENTIFYING MARK {John 13:34-35} JWs are known globally for the love they have among themselves!

These are the qualities expected of the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit.
Can you now list the FRUIT you're seeing in those i'm criticizing?

achorladey:
After all this wetin remain?
You don enter your books and brochures to do your usual copy and paste
I thought I will see something extraordinary not seen before.
Chai! Even if you had gone through the fruitage listed in Galatians 5. Kumuyi go still tick those boxes in that register
Learn you no gree.

MaxInDHouse:
ATHEIST!

Don't worry all those LEARNING what you want are out there with you without any form of standard! Luke 11:23

Make you list you no gree, you say make i do first, i do finish you no fit mention one thing wey your Kumuyi and Catholic dey do!

Make you list you no gree, you say make i do first, i do finish you no fit mention one thing wey your Kumuyi

ATHEIST

These are the qualities expected of the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit.
Can you now list the FRUIT you're seeing in those i'm criticizing?

achorladey:
Something you know is present in and within Kumuyi.
Learn

Jesus sent his disciples to go throughout the earth and make disciples {Matthew 28:19-20 Compare to Act 1:8} JWs have gone throughout all the earth!

Jesus taught his followers that love must be their IDENTIFYING MARK {John 13:34-35} JWs are known globally for the love they have among themselves!

(2) Jesus ordered his followers to love their neighbours {Matthew 22:39} so they mustn't tag anyone as foe to the point of planning to kill {Matthew 5:43-48} JWs go visiting their neighbours uninvited and never planning to kill anyone! Matthew 26:52

MaxInDHouse:
What is present in Kumuyi that's not in Atheists?
Well since you can't list any fine WORKS it OK!

achorladey:
E pele ti yin sir Mr Nobody101010