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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 9:06pm On Feb 07, 2022
donstan18:

Man has been carrying Liverpool alone.
Is that why Salah is their highest goal scorer this season? Onisokuso cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 9:07pm On Feb 07, 2022
BikeMan:
Is that why Salah is their highest goal scorer this season? Onisokuso cheesy
Excluding J5’s pks, Abraham was Chelsea highest goal scorer last season, was he carrying Chelsea.

Think abeg
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 9:13pm On Feb 07, 2022
donstan18:

Excluding J5’s pks, Abraham was Chelsea highest goal scorer last season, was he carrying Chelsea.

Think abeg
You're being ridiculous? How is Mane carrying Liverpool when Salah is scoring the most goals for the club?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 9:17pm On Feb 07, 2022
BikeMan:
You're being ridiculous? How is Mane carrying Liverpool when Salah is scoring the most goals for the club?
Is it that you didn’t understand my Abraham example or?

Salah has never carried Liverpool in any tournament till victory.

I dare you to mention one.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:23pm On Feb 07, 2022
AnfieldFan:


Salah's been the highest creator of chances asides Trent since he came to Liverpool...
You can't say he's stat padding when his general play is up there with the likes of Kelvin...
Asides chances created, his assists are also high...His second assists also tell the story...
He's the best offensive player Liverpool has had in years with the exception of Suarez...


Salah’s a great player, no doubt, but he’s mastered the art of racking up numbers whilst doing the least on the pitch. If Mane goes missing in a match, he can’t rack up the numbers to grey out his poor performance.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 10:37pm On Feb 07, 2022
Lol so someone's saying Mane has been carrying Liverpool all these while and not Salah. Some ridiculous takes I see on the internet ehhn..

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 11:29pm On Feb 07, 2022
donstan18:

I don’t know how you rate players, but football for me is mostly about commitment, passion, mentality, versatility and display on pitch.

There’s a reason Egypt started flopping immediately Salah made his debut for them.

Mane is the strength and pillar of that Liverpool attack. Strength, creativity, stamina, finishing, selflessness, man can also help defensively, falls deep to ball too. I’ll pick him over Salah.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Searchingvictor: 8:25am On Feb 08, 2022
We bought Sancho to solve RW problem. With greenwood out I thought he'll play there. But na Rashford still play for the wing undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:28am On Feb 08, 2022
GloryIsaac:


In reply to the emboldened.

Salah hasn’t had an ‘off’ season because he’s extremely good at numbers. Something Mane struggles with. He’ll need to put in a lot to deliver like Salah, and yesterday’s AFCON final is a classic example of this.

Mane got multiple chances to score but each chance evaded him (either Gabaski stopped it or his leg just could not reach the ball). Salah was missing in the match, but the one time he had an opportunity to shoot, he would have scored had Mendy not shown quick spatial awareness.

It’s quite funny that a player can be missing for the entirety of a match, and his first shot attempt is a goal.

Another player that’s good at this is Rashford. He gets blasted a lot for poor performances, but his stats tell a different story.

These type of players cause headaches for coaches. Because even when they’re not playing well, the coach knows that somehow they can still register a goal for the team.

Salah’s a great player, no doubt, but he’s mastered the art of racking up numbers whilst doing the least on the pitch. If Mane goes missing in a match, he can’t rack up the numbers to grey out his poor performance.

Well said.

They are two different types of players and Liverpool is lucky to have them at once. Salah plays close to the goal and he is productive there. Mane has the ability to start causing havoc from the deep (far from the goal). He can carry the ball quickly from the deep to the final third to those who can do better justice with it, and he too is part of those who kill the opponents in the final third.

Specialists who play close to the goal will always have more stats. But I don't watch football that way. I respect 'space creators' cheesy like Hazard was in Chelsea.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:32am On Feb 08, 2022
ChristoBam:
Lol so someone's saying Mane has been carrying Liverpool all these while and not Salah. Some ridiculous takes I see on the internet ehhn..


If people don’t like you there is nothing you can do to change their mind.

Check out their EPL stats.

Salah 16 goals
Mane 8 goals

Salah 9 assists
Mane 1 assist

Salah 2.1 key passes per game
Mane 1.1 key key passes per game

Salah 33.4 passes per game
Mane 29.4 passes per game

Salah 79.8% pass success
Mane 74,4% pass success

Salah 0.4 through balls per game
Mane 0.1 through balls per game

Salah 1.9 dribbles per game
Mane 1.5 dribbles per game

Salah scores more, assists more, makes more key passes, makes more through passes, makes more regular passes, has a higher pass success rate, dribbles more.

But somehow it is Mane who is carrying Liverpool.

When it is not weight lifting competition. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:36am On Feb 08, 2022
I like Mane very well but this yeye talk that he carries Liverpool while Salah is just a system player needs to be nipped in the bud.

They are both very good players but Salah based on his superior end product and decisiveness is the better player.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:44am On Feb 08, 2022
afrodoc2:



If people don’t like you there is nothing you can do to change their mind.

Check out their EPL stats.

Salah 16 goals
Mane 8 goals

Salah 9 assists
Mane 1 assist

Salah 2.1 key passes per game
Mane 1.1 key key passes per game

Salah 33.4 passes per game
Mane 29.4 passes per game

Salah 79.8% pass success
Mane 74,4% pass success

Salah 0.4 through balls per game
Mane 0.1 through balls per game

Salah 1.9 dribbles per game
Mane 1.5 dribbles per game

Salah scores more, assists more, makes more key passes, makes more through passes, makes more regular passes, has a higher pass success rate, dribbles more.

But somehow it is Mane who is carrying Liverpool.

When it is not weight lifting competition. grin

Stats don't tell it all. I am not in support of the arguments of who carries Liverpool. Both are good.

Now Mane wins more aerial duels by a far margin

Mane wins more tackles

Mane have more interceptions

He has more clearances

He sprints more.

It goes to show that the coach is using them according to their qualities to the team's benefit. If Mane stays up high the field alone, his attacking stats will go up, but it will cost Liverpool their midfield dominance and might be conceding more goals
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:46am On Feb 08, 2022
Also, the stats don't tell you how far a player travels with the ball. And how quickly. Like the way Ramires used to burst forward.

If one player carries the ball with so much energy, speed and strength for 50 yards and gives it to another who set a pass for a third player for a tap-in goal, the one who ran 50 yards is not rewarded by stats. The latter two get 1 Assist, 1 goal

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:47am On Feb 08, 2022
elampiro:


Stats don't tell it all. I am not in support of the arguments of who carries Liverpool. Both are good.

Now Mane wins more aerial duels by a far margin

Mane wins more tackles

Mane have more interceptions

He has more clearances

He sprints more.

It goes to show that the coach is using them according to their qualities to the team's benefit. If Mane stays up high the field alone, his attacking stats will go up, but it will cost Liverpool their midfield dominance and might be conceding more goals

Very good points but this shalaye is not necessary.

The question i want you to answer is this,

IS MANE CARRYING LIVERPOOL?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:51am On Feb 08, 2022
afrodoc2:


Very good points but this shalaye is not necessary.

The question i want you to answer is this,

IS MANE CARRYING LIVERPOOL?

Both of them can be credited for that. But there are other 9 players.

This season, Salah seems to be the slightly better player. I don't watch much if Liverpool games ....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:55am On Feb 08, 2022
elampiro:


Both of them can be credited for that. But there are other 9 players.

This season, Salah seems to be the slightly better player. I don't watch much if Liverpool games ....


So why the epistle if you don’t think Mane is carrying Liverpool?

Imagine after all the epistle you agreed with me that Salah is better. grin

Bros I bow for you o. My post was for those who said Mane was carrying Liverpool.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:04am On Feb 08, 2022
Mane has been underwhelming for Liverpool this season. The signing of Diaz puts pressure on him to step up his game...

Anyone who says Mane has carried Liverpool this season is just trolling. I'd say Jota has even been more important for Liverpool than Mane this season...All of the above doesn't invalidate the fact that Mane is a fantastic player and will get back in form in no time...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:33am On Feb 08, 2022
afrodoc2:



So why the epistle if you don’t think Mane is carrying Liverpool?

Imagine after all the epistle you agreed with me that Salah is better. grin

Bros I bow for you o. My post was for those who said Mane was carrying Liverpool.

Which epistle are you referring to? Your comment was longer than mine
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:29am On Feb 08, 2022
elampiro:


Stats don't tell it all. I am not in support of the arguments of who carries Liverpool. Both are good.

Now Mane wins more aerial duels by a far margin

Mane wins more tackles

Mane have more interceptions

He has more clearances

He sprints more.


It goes to show that the coach is using them according to their qualities to the team's benefit. If Mane stays up high the field alone, his attacking stats will go up, but it will cost Liverpool their midfield dominance and might be conceding more goals
Is this the job of an attacker or a defender?
I come dey think weda na van dijk you dey talk of...


Na wa for una oooo

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:34am On Feb 08, 2022
patrickmuf:
Mane has been underwhelming for Liverpool this season. The signing of Diaz puts pressure on him to step up his game...

Anyone who says Mane has carried Liverpool this season is just trolling. I'd say Jota has even been more important for Liverpool than Mane this season...All of the above doesn't invalidate the fact that Mane is a fantastic player and will get back in form in no time...
People no go watch football, na only stats and highlight dem go see.

How will someone consistently watch Liverpool and carry him fingers type Mane is carrying Liverpool?
Mane that is underwhelming even since last season is who is carrying Liverpool.

Some jokes write themselves

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:37am On Feb 08, 2022
Imagine giving evidences of how an attacker is carrying Liverpool and you're calling

Passion, ginger, clearance, interception, tackles.

Attacker, Like ATTACKER ooo.


Mehn, some people are damn funny grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 11:37am On Feb 08, 2022
elampiro:


Well said.

They are two different types of players and Liverpool is lucky to have them at once. Salah plays close to the goal and he is productive there. Mane has the ability to start causing havoc from the deep (far from the goal). He can carry the ball quickly from the deep to the final third to those who can do better justice with it, and he too is part of those who kill the opponents in the final third.

Specialists who play close to the goal will always have more stats. But I don't watch football that way. I respect 'space creators' cheesy like Hazard was in Chelsea.
cheesy cheesy grin grin

Now imagine Liverpool without Mane.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 11:38am On Feb 08, 2022
A talented balanced player will always be better than a stat padding system player. That’s why the former can win trophies without Klopp’s system.

Leave livescores alone and watch football.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pkasso(m): 11:46am On Feb 08, 2022
Jodera:
Is this the job of an attacker or a defender?

Na wa for una oooo
Me just dey shake my head as i read that post. The things you read on here, my brother ehn. . grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:54am On Feb 08, 2022
pkasso:
Me just dey shake my head as i read that post. The things you read on here, my brother ehn. . grin grin
It's funny my brother.
I had to even recheck weda na mane he's talking of, maybe na another person wey be defender. Cos Heaven forbid I'll Stan such an attacker that have defenders' attributes than attackers'
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:05pm On Feb 08, 2022
Mane won't even make Liverpool top 3 players this season.

Salah, Arnold and Jota.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ZachHugo(m): 12:06pm On Feb 08, 2022
manchester united champions of europe. i can see it happening grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 12:10pm On Feb 08, 2022
You win without Klopp’s system if you’re talented and good.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Uniquisite: 12:11pm On Feb 08, 2022
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 12:16pm On Feb 08, 2022
Has Bruno Fernandes ever been injured at Man United?

Think about it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:22pm On Feb 08, 2022
Jodera:
Is this the job of an attacker or a defender?
I come dey think weda na van dijk you dey talk of...


Na wa for una oooo

When Rooney, Tevez and JS Park were doing these things for United, we won titles. Na eho no know ball dey talk of zones.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:26pm On Feb 08, 2022
pkasso:
Me just dey shake my head as i read that post. The things you read on here, my brother ehn. . grin grin

That is what we lack at United. Forwards who with defensive and midfield abilities. This is why our defenders look poor. Those days, Rooney, Tevez, Park will chase a player back, corner him and helped the defenders disposse him

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