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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by AI007(m): 9:30pm On Feb 22, 2022
RepoMan007:
tithe is the tax for church that enables you have meat (chairs, altar, fan, car parks, branches and more amenities within the church). You not paying what God has ordained but enjoying others' people money in form of the above mentioned constitute robbery of those people and by extension, of God Himself. When God said he came to the well to do of this world in form of the poor, hungry, homeless, and sickly in Mathews, how can you then enjoy the contribution of these people and think you haven't robbed God?

Is that what Jesus said?
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by Fredmatic(m): 9:35pm On Feb 22, 2022
RepoMan007:
tithe is the tax for church that enables you have meat (chairs, altar, fan, car parks, branches and more amenities within the church). You not paying what God has ordained but enjoying others' people money in form of the above mentioned constitute robbery of those people and by extension, of God Himself. When God said he came to the well to do of this world in form of the poor, hungry, homeless, and sickly in Mathews, how can you then enjoy the contribution of these people and think you haven't robbed God?

You talk like someone who does not reason on his own. If the church want chair and all the things you mention, then they should properly call it and label it so simple, and see if people won't donate in large numbers.
But threatening, cursing and criminalizing people in the name of not paying tithe, that is what people won't take, now that many have kn the Truth.

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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by GardenOfGod(m): 9:39pm On Feb 22, 2022
I quit arguing with you mate since you said that the apostles were arguing on the law of moses generally....
Grandmeister:

Quit trying to play possum on what I’ve been saying. They were arguing on the law in general. Circumcision, eating of certain kinds of meat, the sabbath etc…the Jewish converts still did those things even though they were Christians while Paul argued that those who weren’t of Jewish origin shouldn’t be made to do same. Does that make the Jewish converts any less Christians? If Christ didn’t pay tithes and follow the Jewish laws why did Peter, James and most of the original disciples insist on them?
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 9:48pm On Feb 22, 2022
YinkaOlusesi16:
your tithes to GOD is different from the money u give to the poor, obedient is better than sacrifice.

Absolutely correct
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 9:50pm On Feb 22, 2022
chiefobdk2:
if you are not a levi and you collect tithe..you are a criminal

Abram Paid tithe to Melchizedek . So Was melchizedek Levi? .

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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 9:53pm On Feb 22, 2022
Igo9:
when did Jesus tell christians to pay tithe?

JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
Matthew 23:23 TLB
. .. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things
.

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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 9:55pm On Feb 22, 2022
LordIsaac:
The doctrine of Payment of tithe is more heard now than salvation messages.

That's a lie . Salvation Alter call is made every service
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by ogyunging(m): 9:58pm On Feb 22, 2022
See this wan
You don't pay a dime in tax
But congregation must pay tithe
Shior
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by cutieBR(f): 9:58pm On Feb 22, 2022
I'm a tax payer and it hasn't work for me, of what use is it then?uthor=wirinet post=110444119]

I am glad paying tithes works for you. What about paying your taxes? Does paying your taxes also not work for you? Or are you a criminal as defined by pastor David Ibiyeomie?
After all Jesus was recorded to have paid tax, and he specifically instructed "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's".[/quote]
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by Fredmatic(m): 9:58pm On Feb 22, 2022
otokx:


The devil that only exists in Nigeria abi? He is allergic to cold in UK, US, Canada, even Ukraine.

Do u mind him, I am just reading all his fullish comments. Ujk, US, Canada etc look so developed and we here carrying tithe for head. No country in this world pay tithe more than Nigerians, and yet see where we are.
People who follow pastor preaching hook,line and sinker without reading and thinking by themselves.
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 10:01pm On Feb 22, 2022
jpmoriarti:
Thief!

How much tithe did Elon Musk or Bill Gate pay? Why didn't the devil collect from them? Why are they the richest men in the world even without paying tithe


God doesn't demand tithe from sinners

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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by Grandmeister(m): 10:19pm On Feb 22, 2022
Fredmatic:


Did you also read that part provision on of the law? Are we still under the law as a Christian?
Christ was under the law then and only telling those people to do the important things first before paying tithe as written in the law,
And when Christ died that end the law, so when you are giving it should be free will from the heart and not compostrily as the law was.

You don't read bible well and just be debating what you don't kn. Even the tithe u claim too follow are you paying the 3 aspect of it fully? Or just only the Malachi they quote for you?
The truth is I haven’t even paid my tithes in a long time…BUT I will be a hypocrite to antagonise those who do. You can’t be against tithes because it is of the mosaic law and in the other hand be ok with other Jewish religious doctrines/laws..why do you get sensitive about tithes? Is it because it is about your money? You don’t have any problems with circumcision, the sabbath day, lenting period but when it comes to money you remember you’re not bound to the mosaic law? Who una dey deceive?
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by alabo1: 10:27pm On Feb 22, 2022
benjackugo:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CaPpZGjNWJb/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Save this for your sheep not those that use their brains. The bulk of the wealthiest people on planet earth are atheists/non Christians yet they did not experience your so called near success syndrome.

The gall of these pastorprenuers never ceases to amaze me. Rather than teach morality and understanding God it's all about wealth. What does he have to say about Countries like China that don't pay tithe are they not successful?

tithing is giving and not necessarily to the Church. It is a universal principal that those who know utilise. I must not give my tithe/charity to the Church. Bill Gates has done more for charity than all of you put together and he does not pay tithe as he is not a Christian. Stop focusing on Malachi interpretation of tithe and also consider Deuteronomy 14-22.

Anyways your rhetoric only works on the gullible. I have not been to church in 30 years and have not paid tithes but the Grand Architect has still blessed me in all ramifications and I reciprocate by helping my fellow man which is my tithing.Peace
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by alabo1: 10:30pm On Feb 22, 2022
YinkaOlusesi16:
your tithes to GOD is different from the money u give to the poor, obedient is better than sacrifice.

How can you give to God that owns everything? How can you Give/love a God you don't see more than the man you see everyday.

You the tissue between your head please.

Peace
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by alabo1: 10:33pm On Feb 22, 2022
Victor08032:


May God punish you and your generation as you typing this madness comment.. the only sin without forgiveness is when you sin against the holy spirit

Keep quiet. Someone is saying the truth and you are renting nonsense because you have been brainwashed. Carry on decieving yourselves. When time reach una eye go clear
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by alabo1: 10:35pm On Feb 22, 2022
Peterosky:
.Stop being stupid and be reasonable for once.Are you saying that bad things don't happen to tithers?

Religion is the opium of the masses as Marx said. We are arguably the most religious country on earth. How far today with all the prayers and tithing
Rubbish
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by alabo1: 10:38pm On Feb 22, 2022
CHARLOE:

Deut.26:12 (When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied.)
U can see clearly d bible directs u to give ur tithe to d levite, orphans, widows n d homeless (vulnerable people in the society). Read your bible u won't hear.

Thank you. The Levites where church workers who did not own land or husbandry hence their inclusion. Tithing was for all needy persons by the tither not necessarily the Church
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by RayRay06677(m): 11:02pm On Feb 22, 2022
petra1:


Abram Paid tithe to Melchizedek . So Was melchizedek Levi? .

That was a bribe, he killed and stole and gave part to the king to silence him. If I invade your village today and give part to your local government chairman for coverage I hope you will clap for me.


That's takes us to the question: are you a Christian? Follow Christ and have peace.
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by Fredmatic(m): 11:04pm On Feb 22, 2022
Grandmeister:

The truth is I haven’t even paid my tithes in a long time…BUT I will be a hypocrite to antagonise those who do. You can’t be against tithes because it is of the mosaic law and in the other hand be ok with other Jewish religious doctrines/laws..why do you get sensitive about tithes? Is it because it is about your money? You don’t have any problems with circumcision, the sabbath day, lenting period but when it comes to money you remember you’re not bound to the mosaic law? Who una dey deceive?

I am happy you are truthful in some path.the issue here is not been sensitive about money, is by knowing the all truth about this tithe and some pastor should stop deceiving people.

Secondly, no one have issues with them bcus is a choice to do or not to do. Eg Abraham was not circumsize but yet God count him righteous bcus Abraham believe and obeyed him. So no law is holding anyone.

Sabbath day service again is a matter of choice you can choose to serve God any day no law is holding or cursing you. Christian choose Sunday bcus if falls on the day Christ Rose from death.

Letting period you mention I don't kn which law is that. Again like I said these laws don't bind on you as a Christian except the 10 commandment law, which is sum up in as love in the new commandment Christ gave. When you love your neighbor you have fulfilled all the 10 commandment.

The question you should be asking yourself is why some pastors pay so much emphasis on the Malachi tithe ? And won't preach Due 14; 22-26 to you? Why the emphasis of threatning and cursing people when we all kn Christ has taken all the curse of the law? When Roman 8;1 say there is no condemination to those who work after the spirit not on the flesh of the old laws.

Christ said he love a cheerful giver not grugyy or conpusarly ( ie mosaic law ) , but one who give freely from his heart. So is paying of tithe a cheerful giving or compusary Giving?
so in conclusion is not bcus of the money people are angry, is b us they are not preaching the entire truth but just what will benefit them only.

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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by Nobody: 11:41pm On Feb 22, 2022
tillaman:
I have never paid before but I am a good giver


I seriously need your financial assistance


Please
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by Nobody: 11:44pm On Feb 22, 2022
petra1:


God doesn't demand tithe from sinners




Yawns
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by Grandmeister(m): 11:49pm On Feb 22, 2022
Fredmatic:


I am happy you are truthful in some path.the issue here is not been sensitive about money, is by knowing the all truth about this tithe and some pastor should stop deceiving people.

Secondly, no one have issues with them bcus is a choice to do or not to do. Eg Abraham was not circumsize but yet God count him righteous bcus Abraham believe and obeyed him. So no law is holding anyone.

Sabbath day service again is a matter of choice you can choose to serve God any day no law is holding or cursing you. Christian choose Sunday bcus if falls on the day Christ Rose from death.

Letting period you mention I don't kn which law is that. Again like I said these laws don't bind on you as a Christian except the 10 commandment law, which is sum up in as love in the new commandment Christ gave. When you love your neighbor you have fulfilled all the 10 commandment.

The question you should be asking yourself is why some pastors pay so much emphasis on the Malachi tithe ? And won't preach Due 14; 22-26 to you? Why the emphasis of threatning and cursing people when we all kn Christ has taken all the curse of the law? When Roman 8;1 say there is no condemination to those who work after the spirit not on the flesh of the old laws.

Christ said he love a cheerful giver not grugyy or conpusarly ( ie mosaic law ) , but one who give freely from his heart. So is paying of tithe a cheerful giving or compusary Giving?
so in conclusion is not bcus of the money people are angry, is b us they are not preaching the entire truth but just what will benefit them only.
I gave you a like because your comment is very lucid and true that I can’t even pick a hole in it.
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 1:04am On Feb 23, 2022
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If you give offering you should give tithe also

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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 1:05am On Feb 23, 2022
RayRay06677:


That was a bribe, he killed and stole and gave part to the king to silence him. If I invade your village today and give part to your local government chairman for coverage I hope you will clap for me.

You could say Jacob gave bribe to God too. And Childrrn of Israel gave bribe to God. See how far you tithe eaters will go to nullify the word of God. You forgot melchizedek was a priest of God. And God recorded he blessed Abraham for the tithes he gave .

Genesis 14:20
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.


That's takes us to the question: are you a Christian? Follow Christ and have peace.

JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
Matthew 23:23 TLB
. . .. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things
.

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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by RayRay06677(m): 5:57am On Feb 23, 2022
petra1:


You could say Jacob gave bribe to God too. And Childrrn of Israel gave bribe to God. See how far you tithe eaters will go to nullify the word of God. You forgot melchizedek was a priest of God. And God recorded he blessed Abraham for the tithes he gave .

Genesis 14:20
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.




JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
Matthew 23:23 TLB
. . .. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things
.

That was a joke but is that Christianity, definitely NO, if you are a Christian then follow Christ. Under no guise should you kill as a Christian rather "turn the other cheek" the battle is of the Lord.

So who are you following, Christ or Abraham?
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by wirinet(m): 6:02am On Feb 23, 2022
petra1:


JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
Matthew 23:23 TLB
. . .. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things
.

Meaning tithes is not that important. That's why he or his disciples never preached or gave a parable on tithes. Meanwhile tithes is the most important doctrine of modern day Christianity. Salvation according to tithes.

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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by RayRay06677(m): 6:02am On Feb 23, 2022
petra1:


You could say Jacob gave bribe to God too. And Childrrn of Israel gave bribe to God. See how far you tithe eaters will go to nullify the word of God. You forgot melchizedek was a priest of God. And God recorded he blessed Abraham for the tithes he gave .

Genesis 14:20
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.




JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
Matthew 23:23 TLB
. . .. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things
.

On the second part, I am happy you are joining me to say same thing "tithe is a lesser thing" tithe is insignificant. Tithe is inconsequential. Tithe is lesser in the scheme of things. Jesus, said so.

Rather let your gods preach the weightier things first and tithe might follow as it's inconsequential in today's Christianity.
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 6:06am On Feb 23, 2022
RayRay06677:

That was a joke but is that Christianity, definitely NO, if you are a Christian then follow Christ. Under no guise should you kill as a Christian rather "turn the other cheek" the battle is of the Lord.

I don't get you.

So who are you following, Christ or Abraham?

You dont know Abraham. If you know Abraham you will know that he is the father of faith. The new testament was based on Abrahamic covenant. He is the father of us all.

Galatians 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.


Even christ himself is prophetic seed of Abraham

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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 6:10am On Feb 23, 2022
RayRay06677:


On the second part, I am happy you are joining me to say same thing "tithe is a lesser thing" tithe is insignificant.Tithe is inconsequential. Tithe is lesser in the scheme of things. Jesus, said so.

Lesser things is different from "Insignificant "
Will you call Offering Insignificant? Buy yet its part of the lesser things

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Rather let your gods preach the weightier things first and tithe might follow as it's inconsequential in today's Christianity.

Rather let your tithe eating gods preach the whole counsel of God. God never stopped tithes amd Offering. They are principles just as fasting and praying

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Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 6:14am On Feb 23, 2022
wirinet:

Meaning tithes is not that important.

That's tithe eaters assumption

That's why he or his disciples never preached or gave a parable on tithes.

He did

Meanwhile tithes is the most important doctrine of modern day Christianity. Salvation according to tithes.

Not true. It's tithe eaters assumption or accusations. Pastor's teach on prayers, fasting, forgiveness, evangelism, faith nobody speaks. But when they teach on tithes anf offering tithe eaters protest. That means conscience Is disturbing them.

There must be balance. The whole counsel of God must be taught
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by RayRay06677(m): 6:17am On Feb 23, 2022
petra1:


I don't get you.



You dont know Abraham. If you know Abraham you will know that he is the father of faith. The new testament was based on Abrahamic covenant. He is the father of us all.

Galatians 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.


Even christ himself is prophetic seed of Abraham


Are you abrahamic or a Christian.
It is written "non was found worthy on earth, heavens, hell, nowhere was any one found worthy pure enough for the task". Where was Abraham?
Killed and took away properties, slept with maid, lied. That's few recorded for him. And I trust you to know that's not Christlike acts
Re: David Ibiyeomie: If You Don’t Pay Tithe, You Are A Criminal by petra1(m): 6:59am On Feb 23, 2022
RayRay06677:


Where was Abraham?
Killed and took away properties, slept with maid, lied. That's few recorded for him. And I trust you to know that's not Christlike acts

David and Moses did worst . Faith is not by act but by heart

You are yet to know who Abraham is sir. You're yet to know the significance of Abrahamic covenant.

The testimony of of For Abraham was of faith and righteousness.

James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Galatians 3:9
So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.


Abraham is the father of faith. The new testament of Christ was an offshoot of Abrahamic covenant. And also the fulfillment of Abrahamic covenant . If you try to demonize Abraham you will demonize Christ also who is the seed of Abraham

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