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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by sonmvayina(m): 2:59pm On Feb 26, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Where's/ What's your proof?
Remember i'm not asking for STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!
But practical benefits of your so called original because the only proof of ORIGINAL is it's positive result in the gathering of those making use of it in the right sense! smiley

I have asked you this question before, I will ask you again .
Which do you prefer or if you where God, who will be your chosen person?

1. Be in a peaceful group that worships an idol

Or

2. Be by yourself and keep God's commandments.

You have not still grasp the reason why the law was given in the first place, whether 1000 jesuses came and died It is never going to make I obsolete. The Law is forever.

And God made it super clear that anybody coming to change it CAN NOT be from him.

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:11pm On Feb 26, 2022
sonmvayina:

I have asked you this question before, I will ask you again .
Which do you prefer or if you where God, who will be your chosen person?
1. Be in a peaceful group that worships an idol
Or
2. Be by yourself and keep God's commandments.
You have not still grasp the reason why the law was given in the first place, whether 1000 jesuses came and died It is never going to make I obsolete. The Law is forever.
And God made it super clear that anybody coming to change it CAN NOT be from him.

Well according to the Bible the laws came after Moses, Adam, Eve, Enoch, Methuselah, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph lived without those laws.
So if some people lived and were God's friends before those laws it simply means those laws can't be permanent, it was brought for a purpose and when that purpose is met it will no longer be needed!
God can't bring in laws in the middle and ask everyone to live by it, it should have been from the beginning if it's as important as you think! smiley
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:21pm On Feb 26, 2022
sonmvayina:


See a doctor

I will pay for it..same offer still stand with Dtruthspeaker..

No offense.

Obviousl Stark Raving Mad Psychiatric Ward Escapee is still running around.

killyaselfie:


You with the face of a person with Down syndrome shouldn’t tell anyone to see a psychiatrist.

Not down syndrome but Down-kolo!

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by budaatum: 5:23pm On Feb 26, 2022
sonmvayina:

In one breath you make a valid point in another ,your ignorance is laid bare.
My assessment of you is that you are tormented by the written words because you don't understand the message that is conveyed within the story or it might just be your usual self. I never for once said dwell on the written words but the message they convey. And I went further to say the jewish belief and the igbo belief are exactly alike...

I think Okonkwo might not have cursed his son if he had believed what his son was being taught by missionaries who came to Mbanta but perhaps Achebe is not Igbo enough to know "jewish belief and the igbo belief are exactly alike".

Have you not heard of syncretism, and then read up historical instances of it happening, son? I myself was in awe when I saw the Metropolitan Cathedral of the Assumption of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary into Heaven.

The messages that are conveyed within the stories are all for the same purpose, sonm, and are expressed very well in a book that can be considered to be the book that follows the New Book that followed the Old Book that came out of Egypt.

Human beings, We created you all from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another. Verily the noblest of you in the sight of Allah is the most God-fearing of you. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware. Surah 49:13

And to cure being "tormented by the written words" which results In the constant pissing at the wall of my god is better than your god, which is really, my beliefs are better than your beliefs, or worse, my stories are better than yours, is why we have the New Testament where we all can clearly read it written that those who read one book alone will become and remain ignorant.

Those who understand the message that is conveyed within the stories will not bushelize. They will convey the message within the stories so their fruits shine like Lights on Hills.

Bushelize. To cover ones light in muck so one shines not as well as one could shine.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by orisa37: 7:19pm On Feb 26, 2022
There are three stages to an Agreement Contact and Covenant. They're OFFER, CONSIDERATION AND ACCEPTANCE.

ADAM AND EVE AND THE GARDEN OF EDEN WERE OFFERED TO HUMANS FOR CONSIDERATION.

THE EATING OF THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT, THE EXPULSION FROM THE GARDEN. THE DELUGE OF NOAH, THE EVOLUTION OF ISRAEL,MOSES JOSEPH, DAVID, MARY AND THE GIFT OF JESUS CHRIST ARE THE CONSIDERATION SECOND STAGE OF CREATION OF LIFE.

THE ACCEPTANCE THIRD STAGE IS GRADUALLY ENTERING AND WILL REACH THE PERFECT STAGE YOU ARE YARNING FOR AT THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. THERE WILL BE TWO NEW PERFECT WORLDS CALLED "JERUSALEMS".

OFFER CONSIDERS ACCEPTANCE. HUMANS ARE BORN(OFFER).
HUMANS FEEL & ACT, THINK & INTERACT AND REASON&MOVE, THAT'S HUMANS GROW AND DEVELOP TO GOOD OLD AGE(CONSIDERATION TIME). BEFORE THEY DIE TO DAMNATION OR LIVE TO ETERNITY(ACCEPTANCE OF FAITH & HOPE).

MANY ARE CALLED BUT FEW WILL LIVE TILL THE NEW PERFECT WORLD, NEW JERUSALEMS.

FROM ORISAORUNTO ORUNTO27
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by sonmvayina(m): 7:31pm On Feb 26, 2022
budaatum:


I think Okonkwo might not have cursed his son if he had believed what his son was being taught by missionaries who came to Mbanta but perhaps Achebe is not Igbo enough to know "jewish belief and the igbo belief are exactly alike".

Have you not heard of syncretism, and then read up historical instances of it happening, son? I myself was in awe when I saw the Metropolitan Cathedral of the Assumption of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary into Heaven.

The messages that are conveyed within the stories are all for the same purpose, sonm, and are expressed very well in a book that can be considered to be the book that follows the New Book that followed the Old Book that came out of Egypt.

Human beings, We created you all from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another. Verily the noblest of you in the sight of Allah is the most God-fearing of you. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware. Surah 49:13

And to cure being "tormented by the written words" which results In the constant pissing at the wall of my god is better than your god, which is really, my beliefs are better than your beliefs, or worse, my stories are better than yours, is why we have the New Testament where we all can clearly read it written that those who read one book alone will become and remain ignorant.

Those who understand the message that is conveyed within the stories will not bushelize. They will convey the message within the stories so their fruits shine like Lights on Hills.

Bushelize. To cover ones light in muck so one shines not as well as one could shine.

What is your point...?
In two or 3 short sentences...
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by sonmvayina(m): 7:37pm On Feb 26, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Obviousl Stark Raving Mad Psychiatric Ward Escapee is still running around.



Not down syndrome but Down-kolo!

It still stands.

What else can a brother do?
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by sonmvayina(m): 7:42pm On Feb 26, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Well according to the Bible the laws came after Moses, Adam, Eve, Enoch, Methuselah, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph lived without those laws.
So if some people lived and were God's friends before those laws it simply means those laws can't be permanent, it was brought for a purpose and when that purpose is met it will no longer be needed!
God can't bring in laws in the middle and ask everyone to live by it, it should have been from the beginning if it's as important as you think! smiley


You still don't understand anything.

The Torah is a constitution of the jews. They operate a theocracy.

It is not a history textbook. It us for spiritual instruction..it was compiles to be used in the synagogue. Not history class..

Should I open a thread for this purpose ?

You just keep trying to interpret the story in the book. ..like they happen...
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21pm On Feb 26, 2022
sonmvayina:

You still don't understand anything.
The Torah is a constitution of the jews. They operate a theocracy.
It is not a history textbook. It us for spiritual instruction..it was compiles to be used in the synagogue. Not history class..
Should I open a thread for this purpose ?
You just keep trying to interpret the story in the book. ..like they happen...

If it didn't happen, why quoting it? wink

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by budaatum: 1:02am On Feb 27, 2022
sonmvayina:


What is your point...?
In two or 3 short sentences...

Stop being lazy.

3 words.

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by budaatum: 1:05am On Feb 27, 2022
sonmvayina:


It us for spiritual instruction..it was compiles to be used in the synagogue. Not history class.

I want you to educate us about this please.

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by budaatum: 1:08am On Feb 27, 2022
sonmvayina:


You have not still grasp the reason why the law was given.......

Given by whom, please?

And to whom?

And what was the reason it was given?

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by NNTR: 7:06am On Feb 27, 2022
sonmvayina:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQthe2ZJTYs

Watch, it I just 3 minutes...
Necessity, is the mother of invention, hence why you are the reason, God, to start with, created and left an imperfect world

sonmvayina:
What is your point...?
In two or 3 short sentences...

budaatum:
Stop being lazy.

3 words.
Why Did God Create An Imperfect World?
In three words:
It is because of Sin, Image & Likeness

The three words, Sin, Image & Likeness equate to:
1. Human capacity to go wrong
2. Possess a visible instant outlined physical and external form representation of the attributes of the quintessential Supernatural Supreme Spiritual Being
3. Continuum capacity and the gradual transition fact of resembling the moral abstract characteristic and qualities of the quintessential Supernatural Supreme Spiritual Being being alike

Sin, Image & Likeness, can be transposed with another set of self-explanatory three words, namely:
Functional, Substantive and Relational.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by 22jumpstreet: 3:47pm On Feb 27, 2022
NNTR:

Necessity, is the mother of invention, hence why you are the reason, God, to start with, created and left an imperfect world



Why Did God Create An Imperfect World?
In three words:
It is because of Sin, Image & Likeness

The three words, Sin, Image & Likeness equate to:
1. Human capacity to go wrong
2. Possess a visible instant outlined physical and external form representation of the attributes of the quintessential Supernatural Supreme Spiritual Being
3. Continuum capacity and the gradual transition fact of resembling the moral abstract characteristic and qualities of the quintessential Supernatural Supreme Spiritual Being being alike

Sin, Image & Likeness, can be transposed with another set of self-explanatory three words, namely:
Functional, Substantive and Relational.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

What is sin?

Did sin come before the creation of the universe ?

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by budaatum: 3:59pm On Feb 27, 2022
NNTR:

Necessity, is the mother of invention, hence why you are the reason, God, to start with, created and left an imperfect world

'God created an imperfect world because God had to create an imperfect world because the human God created had the "capacity to go wrong"', NNTR?

Surely you can do better than this, in simpler words too, if you tried harder.

Can a God have a necessity? Does it hunger too?

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by 22jumpstreet: 4:20pm On Feb 27, 2022
budaatum:


'God created an imperfect world because God had to create an imperfect world because the human God created had the "capacity to go wrong"', NNTR?

Surely you can do better than this, in simpler words too, if you tried harder.

Can a God have a necessity? Does it hunger too?

That was funny..

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by 22jumpstreet: 4:21pm On Feb 27, 2022
budaatum:


'God created an imperfect world because God had to create an imperfect world because the human God created had the "capacity to go wrong"', NNTR?

Surely you can do better than this, in simpler words too, if you tried harder.

Can a God have a necessity? Does it hunger too?

You best post by some miles..

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by budaatum: 4:34pm On Feb 27, 2022
22jumpstreet:


You best post by some miles..

He was casting words hoping they stuck without considering what he meant.

Imagine claiming a God we all can clearly read, "saw that it was good", creates imperfections with the "capacity to go wrong" out of necessity.

If my cook or mechanic rationalised the same way I'd either crash or be food poisoned.

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by 22jumpstreet: 4:59pm On Feb 27, 2022
budaatum:


He was casting words hoping they stuck without considering what he meant.

Imagine claiming a God we all can clearly read, "saw that it was good", creates imperfections with the "capacity to go wrong" out of necessity.

If my cook or mechanic rationalised the same way I'd either crash or be food poisoned.

This is what the wise psalmist said is going to do the upgrade..

“The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭19:7‬ ‭KJV

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by budaatum: 5:09pm On Feb 27, 2022
22jumpstreet:


This is what the wise psalmist said is going to do the upgrade..

“The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭19:7‬ ‭KJV
Part, upgrade. For here is much later.

"For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God". Hebrews 7:19

Goes to show how wisdom evolves, and why we must continuously practise kaizen.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by KnownUnknown: 5:15pm On Feb 27, 2022
22jumpstreet:


This is what the wise psalmist said is going to do the upgrade..

“The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭19:7‬ ‭KJV

What do you mean by “the law”

budaatum:

Part, upgrade. For here is much later.

"For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God". Hebrews 7:19

Goes to show how wisdom evolves, and why we must continuously practise kaizen.

What do you mean by “the law”?
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by 22jumpstreet: 5:35pm On Feb 27, 2022
KnownUnknown:


What do you mean by “the law”



What do you mean by “the law”?

God's universal laws..

Some acts that damages the spirit are prohibited.

For the greater good.

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by 22jumpstreet: 5:37pm On Feb 27, 2022
budaatum:

Part, upgrade. For here is much later.

"For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God". Hebrews 7:19

Goes to show how wisdom evolves, and why we must continuously practise kaizen.

I wouldn't know about that...

Don't know the meaning of a " better hope"
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by KnownUnknown: 6:01pm On Feb 27, 2022
22jumpstreet:


God's universal laws..
Some acts that damages the spirit are prohibited.
For the greater good.

What are God’s universal laws?
What is the greater good?
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by budaatum: 6:58pm On Feb 27, 2022
KnownUnknown:


What do you mean by “the law”



What do you mean by “the law”?

It's a good question.

Biblically speaking, first the law was, "Of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil thou shalt not eat". The punishment for disobeying was death, but it turned out that law had no teeth as it it was rather unenforceable in the end.

Next came what we read as the Ten Commandments, though prior to then there were rather many do not do's or learn from's in Genesis like Cain's do not kill, and Abraham's do not sacrifice your own child, or sleep with your own daughter etc.

I guess from there it exploded into Numbers and Leviticus with laws controlling every aspect of the being, though that too was found wanting as we humans tend to have minds of our own as was found out in Eden, hence the continuous evolution of laws from long before Eden up until today.

By "the law", I mean that which points to conduct which benefits the human race and extends its existence on the land that the Lord hath given to it.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by budaatum: 7:07pm On Feb 27, 2022
22jumpstreet:


I wouldn't know about that...

Don't know the meaning of a " better hope"

I didn't write it, [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Peter+1&version=KJV]it's in the book[/url].

The hope of an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God’s power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time, is it written. Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by 22jumpstreet: 10:26pm On Feb 27, 2022
KnownUnknown:


What are God’s universal laws?
What is the greater good?

Like inappropriate sexual relations, incest, sex with animals, Murder, creating Gods from things that where also created, establishing a competent ministry of justice(to protect the weak and poor), stealing,respect for elders ..etc.

The main purpose of laws is for us to live in peace..

Just to reduce chaos and for humans to live in peace..
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Kobojunkie: 12:08am On Feb 28, 2022
22jumpstreet:
What is sin?

Did sin come before the creation of the universe ?
Sin is direct disobedience of God's commandments and Law. These laws define the relationship between God and mankind.. undecided

Sin has nothing to do with the creation of the universe as it instead defines a relationship between God and men. undecided

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