I think we getting serious gradually. It should not limited to state government but corporate bodies and individuals.

jmoore:
There will be no significant changes if we still have mediocre governors.

Nothing stops government from having refineries in their states. But how many governors in Nigeria built a refinery?

This logic is highly flawed. Electricity is very basic and states and businesses should be able to generate to meet their needs. Refineries are not nearly top on the list of things any state government should do. The rich states will be able to significantly improve their power supply if they're allowed to generate and distribute without impediments. E.g Lagos, Rivers, maybe Delta and some other ones too.

Jonegonu:
how many power plant is there in port harcourt

They used to have as much as three or four stations.
The Odili regime did a bit in trying to IPP.
You can imagine if this legislation existed then, how much development will have amassed since.
Honestly, poor structure has kept this country in the dustbin for decades.

Starberg:
The National Assembly passed the bill for State to generate their electricity.

These are my views:

1. This will break the monopoly of Discos
2. The State Governors will have no where to hide their inadequates.
3.The people will know whom and where to lodge their complaints.
4.The state governments would want to compete with one another by looking into other source of power like solar etc.
5. Price of services will fall like barbing, photocoping etc.
6. Investors would want to invest in states with adequate electricity supply
7. It will be used as one of the criteria to judge a parforming Governor.
8. Las las Ghana will stop mocking us with light
9. Less attention will be focused on fuel.

Election at the corner that y

Long overdue

Starberg:
The National Assembly passed the bill for State to generate their electricity.

These are my views:

1. This will break the monopoly of Discos
2. The State Governors will have no where to hide their inadequates.
3.The people will know whom and where to lodge their complaints.
4.The state governments would want to compete with one another by looking into other source of power like solar etc.
5. Price of services will fall like barbing, photocoping etc.
6. Investors would want to invest in states with adequate electricity supply
7. It will be used as one of the criteria to judge a parforming Governor.
8. Las las Ghana will stop mocking us with light
9. Less attention will be focused on fuel.

I like number 9. Because this nigerdelta people with our oil mentality is crazy

Akwa Ibom will now have constant electricity. Nobody, I repeat nobody is stopping the rise of Akwa Ibom.

Who knows, in the next decade we might declare our own independence

Perfect!!!

jmoore:
There will be no significant changes if we still have mediocre governors.

Nothing stops government from having refineries in their states. But how many governors in Nigeria built a refinery?

Building refineries are not like buying a concrete mixer, It takes time.
The petroleum sector has been largely on the exclusive list for decades.
It was only recently that licenses were made available and even then there was no legislative backing for private ownership till even more recently and it was only in the last year that NNPC's monopoly via the PIA was broken. But without the removal of subsidies there is still not marketplace for refined products in Nigeria.

So the long road to private participation is the cause why more people have not ventured.
The truth is that until subsidies go, there are no guarantees any investment will succeed.
No one gambles with 15 billion.... except Dangote of course.

Starberg:
The National Assembly passed the bill for State to generate their electricity.

These are my views:

1. This will break the monopoly of Discos
2. The State Governors will have no where to hide their inadequates.
3.The people will know whom and where to lodge their complaints.
4.The state governments would want to compete with one another by looking into other source of power like solar etc.
5. Price of services will fall like barbing, photocoping etc.
6. Investors would want to invest in states with adequate electricity supply
7. It will be used as one of the criteria to judge a parforming Governor.
8. Las las Ghana will stop mocking us with light
9. Less attention will be focused on fuel.

Dont want to sound pessimistic, but we should rather wait and see.

seanfer:


More discos will be established.

I doubt this very much. Except maybe to some huge industrial clusters that can take large amounts of electricty. Electricity is not like sim card you can just change your provider at any time.

Even abroad where you can switch providers, its still only one distribution network everyone feeds into.

Jonegonu:
how many power plant is there in port harcourt

four, two at Afam and two at Omoku

elpee2015:
The bill is about generating, transmitting and distribution of power. Generation of electricity is not the major problem that we have ( though) we are still not generating enough but transmission and distribution. The gencos have a lot of generated power not being taken off by TCN and subsequently discos because of infrastructural deficits but with the passing of this bill, the power sector is expected to open up well, depending on the political will of state actors. State actors can generate and distribute power to the people within their locale. State actors can set up distribution channels directly from gencos to communities and so on. The possibilities are endless. There are a whole lot of wasted power from private firms that can now be distributed for people to use. Though power is not cheap, but it stimulates the economy and increases purchasing power so people should be able to afford it. It also brings competition, giving these discos a run for there money

The bill is still nor explicitly stated regarding the place where its been stated that, state will be "directly" responsible for the generation of their own electricity, or they will be responsible for transmission and distribution of electricity only. If going by what I read previously, in the assertion that we generate enough electricity, that only transmission and distribution is the problem. Then I believe that states should be responsible for the infrastructure for transmission of electricity, and also state should be handed the power to organise the distribution, by making sure more discos are set up for proper distribution, but this can only be possible, when the infrastructures are already in place.

What would make sense is for Lagos, Oyo, Ogun, Ondo, Ekiti and Osun to come together under O'Odua group of companies to form a single Power generating company to deliver electricity to all the states.

With 3 power plants in say Lagos, Ogun and Ondo, the electricity could feed into the main electricity receiving point for these states. That will likely be more cost effective than each state going it alone.

The thing is any state that the govr or at large, the leaders, are into Importing Generator sets, will find it very hard to make this work. Its a curse.


Some Govrs need to see crazy. For now its just a seat that interest politicians and not cos they really want to help!

Anything govt in this country I am tired. Don't trust anyone of them

daveP:
The thing is any state that the govr or at large, the leaders, are into Importing Generator sets, will find it very hard to make this work. Its a curse.


Some Govrs need to see crazy. For now its just a seat that interest politicians and not cos they really want to help!

I've never believed that those importing gens are stopping us from having electricity.

We simply do not have electricity because we have an incompetent government and a corrupt one as well.

Redemption Camp and Covenant University have some sort of turbine so i hear and they have 24hr electricity. Why did those importing gens not stop them?

This is just the kind of thing we like to conjure up when we are looking for a reason as to why things do not work.

Parachoko:
DISCOS don't generate light, they only distribute.

The problem now is that, state might generate, but discos will fail to buy most of what the states are generating

There should be a bill that will make more distribution company start operating as DISCOS too

I might be wrong though.

Discos is a fraud. It was created to milk the masses. How can you tell me that federal government will generate power and another private company will distribute meanwhile Discos don't have one pole.


I thought people like Shonekan will not die, he will continue to enjoy the disco money. Abdulsalaam Abubarkar will never die too. The disco money won't let him die.

Nonsense

It's a Response to RESOURCES ECONOMIC RESTRUCTURING. STATE GOVERNMENTS WILL RECOUP VAT ON IT FOR IGR AND BETTER BUDGETARY CONTROL.

That this thread continued past the first page is the biggest surprise to me. I’ll come back in two to three years after seeing how things have improved. I planned to disappear to a developed country in the near future. If these clowns can deliver on twenty-four hour electricity for three hundred and sixty five days straight, I’ll change my mind or return if already outside.

States to generate and distribute will give rise to competition, among states. It will reduce FG revenue generation and increase state revenue generation. The multiplicity of power generation and distribution will effect positively to the general public in price reduction, power availability and more power consumption. It's a welcome development.

COMPAQ:
What would make sense is for Lagos, Oyo, Ogun, Ondo, Ekiti and Osun to come together under O'Odua group of companies to form a single Power generating company to deliver electricity to all the states.

With 3 power plants in say Lagos, Ogun and Ondo, the electricity could feed into the main electricity receiving point for these states. That will likely be more cost effective than each state going it alone.

Correct
I think there’s something like that sha

Decency2020:



Discos is a fraud. It was created to milk the masses. How can you tell me that federal government will generate power and another private company will distribute meanwhile Discos don't have one pole.


I thought people like Shonekan will not die, he will continue to enjoy the disco money. Abdulsalaam Abubarkar will never die too. The disco money won't let him die.

Nonsense

Government does not generate power.

GENCOS do.

There are no laws stoping states from generating electricity. Thks bills is just a waste of time until I see it personally.

Federal government don't stop State from generating power.

COMPAQ:


Ive never believed that those importing gens are stopping us from having electricity.

We simply do not have electricity because we have an competent government and a corrupt one as well.

Redemption Camp and Conenant Univerity have some sort of turbine so i hear and they have 24hr electricity. Why did those importing gens not stop them?

This is just the kind of thing we like to conjure up when we are looking for a reason as to why things do not work.

Was once like you on the SOT. Not that i say its a major reason, but that leaders that see the gain in that biz with default on providing basic electricity for their respective states.


Personally, let each state handle their own generation especially if they have the hydro or etc in their domain. Then we’ll see how things change. But I’m not all that convinced.

Parachoko:
DISCOS don't generate light, they only distribute.

The problem now is that, state might generate, but discos will fail to buy most of what the states are generating

There should be a bill that will make more distribution company start operating as DISCOS too

I might be wrong though.

You are right.
State governments will have new distribution companies in their localities.
The best thing that will happen in the power generation and distribution sector is to allow states, even individuals who are buoyant enough to invest in the sector.
If Nigeria can go ahead with this decision, it will be the best policy altogether in power supply services.

I think gradually we are heading to power devaluation and restructuring

Parachoko:
I don't understand you

Are you saying states will not just generate but also distribute?

It will be like the telecommunication industry where there is competition, only if they don’t monopolize it. My take is ..State should generate and then bring in investors to distribute

Kikikiki

We shall see o

COMPAQ:


I've never believed that those importing gens are stopping us from having electricity.

We simply do not have electricity because we have an incompetent government and a corrupt one as well.

Redemption Camp and Covenant University have some sort of turbine so i hear and they have 24hr electricity. Why did those importing gens not stop them?

This is just the kind of thing we like to conjure up when we are looking for a reason as to why things do not work.

More like, we produce electricity and sell it at a loss plus some consumers don't pay for power at all.

Meaning the sector operates at a loss..

Discos cannot charge cost reflective tarrifs which leads to stuff like them rejecting power from GENCOS