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Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by lalasticlala(m): 4:51pm On Mar 12, 2022
Just watched Russia’s main political talk show with notorious propagandist Soloviev (Mar 9). Couldn’t believe my ears. Two hardcore pro-Putin guests - Shaknazarov and Bagdasarov - acknowledged the impact of sanctions, military failures, and called for an end to the invasion.

1/ Many Russian elites are dissatisfied with the war. But these two could not say it spontaneously. This show is pre-recorded and carefully orchestrated. Which means that these discussions were approved and permitted.

2/ Shaknazarov acknowledged that Ukrainian government has unified the country against Russia. Ukraine has well-trained military forged by 8 years of war in Donbas. There is no way to install pro-Russian government because nobody influential would agree to be in this role.

3/ At the same time, sanctions are taking effect and can change public opinion in Russia. I can lead to protests, destabilisation, and regime change. Sanctions also lead to international isolation. The last allies of Russia - India and China - will leave Russia.

4/ Russian army achieved its goals. Donbas is “liberated”. NATO only benefits from the protracted conflict. Shaknazarov called for an end to the “operation”.

5/ Another notorious guest of the program Bagdasarov said that sanctions are likely to be lifted from Iran soon. Iran oil will replace Russian oil. Other countries, such as Kazakhstan, are likely to trade with the West, not Russia. It can lead to full International isolation.

6/ The army destroyed the main Ukrainian forces and demoralised the government achieving its goal. Russia cannot “denazify” Ukraine. It should be done by Ukrainians themselves. Russia should make Ukraine neutral but it cannot risk new Afghanistan. Stop the invasion.

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'Another Afghanistan, but even worse’: First criticism of Vladimir Putin’s war on Russian state TV

The first chink of criticism of Vladimir Putin’s war has appeared on Russian state television, with demands to halt the bloody military invasion.

It was described as “another Afghanistan, but even worse”, in reference to the ten-year Soviet occupation ending in humiliation in 1989 which ultimately contributed to the fall of the USSR.

The calls are astonishing since state TV has featured wall-to-wall propaganda for Putin and the war, with vitriolic attacks on the West, especially Britain and the US.

Kremlin-controlled channel Rossiya 1 pundit Karen Shakhnazarov warned viewers that the conflict in Ukraine will isolate Russia.

“I have a hard time imagining taking cities such as Kyiv. I can’t imagine how that would look,” the filmmaker told uber-loyalist host Vladimir Solovyov.

He demanded “ending this operation” to “stabilise things within the country”.

And he warned: “If this picture starts to transform into an absolute humanitarian disaster, even our close allies like China and India will be forced to distance themselves from us.

“This public opinion, with which they’re saturating the entire world, can play out badly for us.”

Another pundit academic Semyon Bagdasarov said: “Do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse?

“There are more people [in Ukraine] and they’re more advanced in their weapon handling.

“We don’t need that. Enough already.”

Solovyov - who owns an Italian villa seized under EU sanctions - was forced to intervene to silence the criticism.

There was a flicker of criticism, too, on Zvezda TV channel, controlled by the Russian defence ministry.

A serving army officer told a talk-show audience that Russian soldiers were dying in Ukraine - but the presenter butted in saying “no, no, no….stop.”

Russia has hidden the death toll from the conflict and the state media is doing nothing to uncover the true facts.

Since the war started, a number of independent and opposition media outlets have been gagged or closed, most notably Echo Moscow radio, almost the last bastion of the freer media Russia enjoyed after the fall of the Red flag.

Hundreds of journalists are among tens of thousands of educated Russians to have fled abroad in the past fortnight, fearing an even more intense crackdown.

There is no doubt Western sanctions are adding to the anxiety of many Russians, with banks blocking foreign currency withdrawals, prices rising and shortages appearing in shops as the rouble plunged.

The views of the critics on show ‘An Evening with Vladimir Solovyov’ clearly reflect an unease in the country yet despite this backing for Putin remains high, and many blame the West, and not him, for the pain of the sanctions.

And the vast majority of the output on state TV is slavish in its pro-Putin, anti-West rhetoric, highlighting at length conspiracy theories relating, for example, to US bio-warfare laboratories in Ukraine.

In another broadcast this week, Channel 1 launched a character assassination on Volodymyr Zelensky, a clear sign of Moscow’s concern that he is cutting through and has united the West in support of Ukraine.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/criticism-vladimir-putin-ukraine-war-russian-state-tv-rossiya-1-karen-shakhnazarov-semyon-bagdasarov-b987471.html

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by Nobody: 4:52pm On Mar 12, 2022
welcome to mother Russia,well as for Putin his end is likely to be very disastrous if care is not taken.

I wonder where his fanboys get their own theory from,there is no way he can keep up with the invasion without destroying himself.
He didn't learn from cold war,almost same thing that led to the dissolution of Soviet Union is what is about to happen, unnecessary competition with USA that you can never be better than.
Haha,below is a picture of Putin fanboy's association (P.F.A) second in command acknowledging Putin's ignorance and lack of co -rdination

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by christm386: 4:54pm On Mar 12, 2022
While some Nigerians are here telling us what is happening in Russia, lol u want it to go ur way cause u supported Putin @ first and even have the gots to call Nigerians and nairalanders dumbo just to prove u are right, while Russians are sincerely crying, more than 5k Russians have been arrested for protesting against the war and Russians billionaires begging puttin not to take them back to 1917, I don’t totally support the west but puttin used the worst approach ever knowing that the west controls the world, China br leaning some lessons @ the moment lol

Cc bkayy u are the dumb one and don’t engage with learned people with ur backyard and beer Palouse news!! Kids everywhere

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by ken6488(m): 4:54pm On Mar 12, 2022
Too late

This would have worked the first week


Russia has lost too much to surrender now

All those sanctions will make Russia fight to finish

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by Felixalex(m): 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
Jhmmmm

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by awoniyi1236(m): 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
grin this man go still calm down, him no get choice.

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by Faber(m): 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
grin in

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by sofeo(m): 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
Ok.

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by siraj1402(m): 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
Cool

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by verybadmouth(m): 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
But some Nigerians are very happy with the invasion. They should continue their happiness oo

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by ImmaculateJOE(m): 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
Where are Putin e-rats on Nairaland, come and see another Western media propaganda..

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by genosof776: 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
Una wahala no Dy taya u nih

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by Ceenachi: 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
People busy giving Putin their answers here as if he will come read grin

This is for your consumption , not for you to advice Russia grin

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by tecashi9: 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
alright

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by spartanian(m): 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
Too stubborn to listen to them

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by chaseblack(m): 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
Leave am o, people be thinking Putin is a tough guy but no tough guy has successfully invaded another country

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by Nobody: 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
Putin is probably looking for an excuse to stop at this point, all he needs is a carrot and stick approach from the West... But all the West has been doing is stick i.e. sanctions here and there and no promise that it would be lifted if they stop the invasion.

Some countries have seen it as an opportunity to loot "the oligarchs" so any rich Russian is a potential target now... Even if they worked for their money legitimately. All these just shows selfishness and ulterior motives on the part of the west.

But I guess Putin asked for it. Pride comes before downfall. embarassed

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by morikee: 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2022
Propaganda

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by TOPCRUISE(m): 4:56pm On Mar 12, 2022
Will he ever listen

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by joyandfaith: 4:56pm On Mar 12, 2022
kingjizz come and learn here.
Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by CoalcityBoi: 4:56pm On Mar 12, 2022
cheesy

It's totally unacceptable to invade a sovereign nation

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by Mumusaphire: 4:56pm On Mar 12, 2022
Na Russians go eliminate Putin last last.

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by donprinyo(m): 4:56pm On Mar 12, 2022
mtcheeeew

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by OkCornel(m): 4:56pm On Mar 12, 2022
Interesting…

This is a needless war, and dialogue is the way out.

Everyone is feeling the ripple effect via increase in price of energy, wheat and other industrial and consumer commodities…with many nations now putting embargo on exports of essential commodities.

Ukraine, biko… remain neutral. NATO and Russia leave Ukraine alone and stop this needless proxy war on Ukrainian soil.

Only the weapon manufacturers and commodities investors/traders/speculators are winners of this conflict.

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by EdgarBounce(m): 4:56pm On Mar 12, 2022
Hmmmmm

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by Cucuta: 4:56pm On Mar 12, 2022
E go just arrest all of Una, lock Una up.

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Re: Russians Ask Putin To Withdraw From Ukraine On Live TV by Ucheosefoh(m): 4:56pm On Mar 12, 2022
Hahahahah Putin fans how far

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