Blunttruth:
There are variations to this IQ thing. Personalities too have a role to play

IQ is not necessarily intelligence or smartness but ability to critically reason things out, and yes, there are those low on the pole. But when one considers those with great IQ, as suggested by the OP, then to those such concepts as submission make absolutely no sense of any kind.

You can have both, once you are able to love your spouse.

Kobojunkie:
More like you lack proper home training for thinking a woman a toy you can fiddle and manipulate in the manner you suggested.

Where did you see me mention fiddling and manipulation? Stop making unfounded assumptions.

Kobojunkie:
IQ is not necessarily intelligence or smartness but ability to critically reason things out, and yes, there are those low on the pole. But when one considers those with great IQ, as suggested by the OP, then to those such concepts as submission make absolutely no sense of any kind.

IQ means Intelligence quotient right? So it has to do with intelligence. I have met people who have high IQs and are not nerds, the way high IQ people are depicted.

Kobojunkie:
I never said IQ has anything to do with submissiveness. However, I don't believe your claim that the higher a person's IQ the more terrible a partner the one makes.

Instead, the higher a person's IQ, the more meaningless submissiveness becomes.

We are saying the same thing, you just don't want to accept it in plain terms. If something becomes meaningless to you, then it losses value therefore you don't indulge it. It means you can't value something that is meanliness to you.

Comparatively you can also say, the higher a person's IQ, the more meaningless Religion becomes. A lot of people support this argument as well.

We can call a spade a spade, no need to sugar coat it.

High IQ please....I don't want my kids to be stupid

IQ stands for intelligence quotient and, in short, it is a measure of a person's reasoning ability. In other words, an IQ test is supposed to gauge how well someone can use information and logic to answer questions or make predictions
This is why a lady can be good at work but unable to win her husband's heart.
Marriage is not academic and is different from academics...
Emotions, illogicalities, and other things crop up.

The greatest charm that would break any man down is submission. No man loves a stubborn woman as a wife. Forget, those weird relationships where you find confused people.

You don't need to be intelligent to be submissive to your spouse. But you need to be wise and strong to be a submissive wife.

The man doesn't need to demand it, just as your wife doesn't need to demand Love. It should be freely given.

It is only low self-esteem and average IQ man that wants a nonentity as a wife. There is this joy I have when I discuss contemporary issues, job-related issues, real-life experiences, even Politics with my babe and she is at par with me. Sometimes I use her ideal to walk around certain issues. Experience has taught me that a low IQ person (man/woman) isn't submissive at all, but they are timid.


Imagine having a wife like Poco( Poco without her fake feminism) or Isilove as a partner. Guy, you are covered any day any time.
They are too many idiots who are raising kids that are unfit in today's world. If you need a submissive woman, go get a female worker pay her good money and she will serve you. A wife is a partner, not a subordinate.

High IQ gives you a sense of command that alone humbles you. When you see a lady without class or character, please question her high IQ.

Blunttruth:
IQ means Intelligence quotient right? So it has to do with intelligence. I have met people who have high IQs and are not nerds, the way high IQ people are depicted.

IQ has more to do with ability to reason, not intelligence or smartness.

in·tel·li·gence quo·tient

a number representing a person's reasoning ability (measured using problem-solving tests) as compared to the statistical norm or average for their age, taken as 100

Being intelligent or being a nerd does not necessarily mean one has high IQ.

Streetbabah:
It's a dilemma choosing to marry between a spouse with good character and submissiveness who relies on you to make 80% of all decisions.... And a spouse with high IQ of great intellects whom u can discuss anything with be it business politics and so on with who is also a self starter... people's opinions are needed

A woman with a high IQ is more preferable than a woman that is submissive

Is good to be married to a submize woman but that high IQ covers every areas that your attention will be needed

An intelligent woman will also be submissive if you take time to understand who she is and her value for your family

truthsayer009:
We are saying the same thing, you just don't want to accept it in plain terms. If something becomes meaningless to you, then it losses value therefore you don't indulge it. It means you can't value something that is meanliness to you.

Comparatively you can also say, the higher a person's IQ, the more meaningless Religion becomes. A lot of people support this argument as well.

We can call a spade a spade, no need to sugar coat it.

We were in no way saying the same things..

Kobojunkie:
IQ has more to do with ability to reason, not intelligence or smartness.

Being intelligent or being a nerd does not necessarily mean one has high IQ.

What's with the face. Let's agree to differ. Everyone knows that an intelligent person can't have a low IQ. Why is it call intelligence quotient if it has nothing to do with intelligence.

Watch movies and see how they depict them.

Woman with Great IQ will be submissive cos she's intelligent to know the value of being submissive. I love great IQ women that can discuss politics, sciences, arts and world in general. Even though, you might not know everything but just have a good idea of what it's all about. A woman that can teach the children their school homework once in a while when am not available. A woman that is ever ready to build up on her achievement and not mine. A Oliver twist when her success and achievements is concerned, always wanting to achieve success in her endeavours....that's my queen..

SenecaTheYonger:
A partner with great IQ

Blunttruth:
What's with the face. Let's agree to differ. Everyone knows that an intelligent person can't have a low IQ. Why is it call intelligence quotient if it has nothing to do with intelligence.

Watch movies and see how they depict them.

I am afraid the statement in bold is not true at all. An intelligent person can indeed have low IQ level.

https://www.quora.com/Can-someone-still-be-intelligent-and-have-a-low-IQ

It is called intelligence QUOTIENT- a measure of a person's ability to critically reason as opposed to a person's intelligence.

As for movie depictions, such individuals gravitate towards partnerships where relationships are concerned. They almost always fail in every attempt at submission because their minds continously rejects such subjugation.

wallrichy:
Woman with Great IQ will be submissive cos she's intelligent to know the value of being submissive. I love great IQ women that can discuss politics, sciences, arts and world in general. Even though, you might not know everything but just have a good idea of what it's all about. A woman that can teach the children their school homework once in a while when am not available.

No person with great IQ will cede control over his or her existence to the whims of another human being, what you all call submission. It is an almost impossible thing to make or see happen. So your statement in bold is not founded on reality..

Great iQ, no go marry person wey go dey born born up and down

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid the statement in bold is not true at all. An intelligent person can indeed have low IQ level.

https://www.quora.com/Can-someone-still-be-intelligent-and-have-a-low-IQ

It is called intelligence QUOTIENT- a measure of a person's ability to critically reason as opposed to a person's intelligence.

There are always exceptions. So intelligent people don't reason? Or does everything not have to do with reasoning. You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine.

Yes, so many things happen and people easily conclude erroneously.
Submission is a deep topic I struggle with.I must confess,it's not easy.
Do you know sometimes, the man may not be serious with his demand but when the woman starts showing how stupid the man is and standing up to him, the devil in the man would surface. Do you think any man loves a woman without her own mind? The way you go about it is what makes the man appreciate you.
Even Jesus at Gethsemane said "not my will but Your will be done". Submission to man is how he understands Love/Value/Trust.Telling a man I love you is skindeep.

True Submission attracts power...

It's not just for women but spiritually too.

Blunttruth:

You are right,but to the bolded part, i have seen such happen several times. Some men can't stand women who have a voice,who can think who can question wrong decisions. They see it as not being submissive and that the woman is challenging their authority.

Kobojunkie:
We were in no way saying the same things..

Okay.

Blunttruth:
There are always exceptions. So intelligent people don't reason? Or does everything not have to do with reasoning. You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine.

Not all intelligent people can critically reason issues.

Consider the case of intelligence and Nigerians to help you understand this issue. Nigerians are considered to be some of the highest educated folks in the world - even right there in Nigeria, we have so many book intelligent beings out there- yet IQ wise, Nigerians continue to rank amongst the lowest in the world.

derecho:
Yes, so many things happen and people easily conclude erroneously.
Submission is a deep topic I struggle with.I must confess,it's not easy.
Do you know sometimes, the man may not be serious with his demand but when the woman starts showing how stupid the man is and standing up to him, the devil in the man would surface. Do you think any man loves a woman without her own mind? The way you go about it is what makes the man appreciate you.
Even Jesus at Gethsemane said "not my will but Your will be done". Submission to man is how he understands Love/Value/Trust.Telling a man I love you is skindeep.

True Submission attracts power...

It's not just for women but spiritually too.

How does she show how stupid the man is? Sometimes it's the men's insecurities that makes him imagine things and read meaning to the most harmless statements. Even when it's matters that are just general topics once the woman's opinion differs ,it's a problem. Submission doesn't mean a woman should not air her opinion on matters. You air your opinion with politely, if the man does not accept it then you go along with him, but it will be on record that you objected. Next time he will ask you or such your opinion of he is wise.

Kobojunkie:
Not all intelligent people can critically reason issues.

Consider the case of intelligence and Nigerians to help you understand this issue. Nigerians are considered to be some of the highest educated folks in the world - even right there in Nigeria, we have so many book intelligent beings out there- yet IQ wise, Nigerians continue to rank amongst the lowest in the world.

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A lady that is not submissive will not even spend a year in your house before she carry her IQ back to her father's house
There is a reason the Bible said wife should be submissive to their husband, why didn't the Bible says wife should have a great IQ
Submission and great IQ are almost like word and opposite if a lady is submissive she might not really have a great IQ and if a lady has a great IQ she might not be submissive cos she will be sophisticated to the point of knowing her rights and also proving them to you at the expense of peace at home
Having a lady with both gestures is like having the whole world at your disposal
That's why the Bible says he who finds a good wife found a good thing

wonderr:
A lady that is not submissive will not even spend a year in your house before she carry her IQ back to her father's house
There is a reason the Bible said wife should be submissive to their husband, why didn't the Bible says wife should have a great IQ
Submission and great IQ are almost like word and opposite if a lady is submissive she might not really have a great IQ and if a lady has a great IQ she might not be submissive cos she will be sophisticated to the point of knowing her rights and also proving them to you at the expense of peace at home
Having a lady with both gestures is like having the whole world at your disposal
That's why the Bible says he who finds a good wife found a good thing

According to the Bible, submission is an unholy curse placed on marriage by God and it is from this same that the same God then sends Jesus Christ to redeem man and marriage from, so those who use the Bible as reason for their choosing the path of submission do so in foolishness.

Both.

I can not marry a lady who will rely on me for 80% of decision

Lol I pity men here who know little or nothing about the 'GAME OF POWER' saying that a high IQ woman can also be submissive.

Intelligence is a form of power just like money. A highly intelligent woman is a powerful woman just like a wealthy woman.

Powerful people are not submissive to 'equal power' or 'lower power' but only to a 'greater power'.

If intelligence and submissiveness goes hand in hand, Are high IQ men also submissive to their wives?

Any high IQ woman being submissive to you on the dating phase is tricking you into marriage. It's in the marriage that her true color will manifest.

Intelligent and submissive woman are rare.

Senomi:
Great IQ abeg, I dey already make plans with one, she dey give me peace of mind, she's all I honestly need right now

Okay! Na so e de start... Good luck buddy

Kobojunkie:
My time is mine to decide, not yours!

SHEY I TELL U SAY I DN HEAR ?

Kobojunkie:
In the Bible submission is a curse which God placed on marriage, and it is that same curse that God then sent Jesus Christ to redeem men and marriage from.

Anyone who chooses submission in marriage is a fool.... that is the Bible's message. So stop reading that book upside down.

Mark Zuckerberg's wife is his partner, not submissive in anyway or form. If you don't even know this, you are already plotting your way to disaster ahead.

So SUBMISSION is a CURSE right?... Everybody just MISQUOTING the SCRIPTURES to suit their WARPED MIND....
Mind you, SUBMISSION wasnt meant for WOMEN alone, the SCRIPTURES talked about SUBMISSION to AUTHORITIES...
>>>Rom.13.1 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
>>>Rom.13.2 - Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

SUBMISSION in MARRIAGE was never part of the MOSAIC LAW, MARRIAGE is OLDER than THE LAW...
Gal.3.13 - Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
This PORTION of the SCRIPTURES was making reference to the MOSAIC law that states that CURSED IS ANY MAN HUNG ON A TREE..

Deut.21.22 - And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
Deut.21.23 - His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.


NO DEY MISYARN SCRIPTURES , YOU HEAR...
if you CHOOSE not to SUBMIT to your HUSBAND, it DOESNT AFFECT ME... but it will AFFECT ME IF , you twist the WORD OF GOD to JUSTIFY YOUR INADEQUACIES.... PEACE

Princewill1:
Lol I pity men here who know little or nothing about the 'GAME OF POWER' saying that a high IQ woman can also be submissive.

Intelligence is a form of power just like money. A highly intelligent woman is a powerful just like a wealthy woman.

Powerful people are not submissive to 'equal power' or 'lower power' but only to a 'greater power'.

If intelligence and submissiveness goes hand in hand, Are high IQ men also submissive to their wives?

Any high IQ woman being submissive to you on the dating phase is tricking you into marriage. It's in the marriage that her color will manifest.

Intelligent and submissive woman are rare.

People who have high IQs actually seek partnerships where relationship is concerned, not submission which makes generally little to no sense for humans as a whole..

Fok IQ, give me a submissive wife like mynd44 any time, any day. Who IQ epp?

macrodata:
Why not strive for a woman with great IQ that's submissive? Yes, they are out there.

Very rare to find in Nigeria now