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The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by GardenOfGod(m): 10:49am On Mar 24, 2022
THE BODIES OF RUSSIAN SOLDIERS ARE PILING UP IN UKRAINE, AS KREMLIN CONCEALS TRUE TOLL OF WAR

Lviv, Ukraine (CNN) — The first warm, sunny days of spring in the southern Mykolaiv region are ushering in a grim new reality: the smell of the dead.


As the frost melts and ground thaws, the bodies of Russian soldiers strewn across the landscape are becoming a problem.

In his nightly video address on Saturday, Vitaly Kim, the region's governor, called on local residents to help collect the corpses and put them in bags, as temperatures rise to above freezing. "We're not beasts, are we?" he implored residents, who have already lost so many of their own in this war.

Mykolaiv was among the first regional capitals to be attacked after Russian President Vladimir Putin launched the invasion of Ukraine on February 24. After pushing into the urban center, Russian troops have been forced out by Ukraine's military, leaving a trail of blackened combat vehicles and tanks in their wake. But the battle for the city, a cornerstone in Russia's westward quest along the Black Sea coast to Odesa, is still raging and it's unclear how long Ukrainian forces will be able to fend off the assault.

Referring to them as "orcs"— the evil, monstrous army in J. R. R. Tolkien's "The Lord of the Rings" — Kim said that the Russians had retreated and left their colleagues' charred bodies behind on the battlefield. He sent CNN pictures of the abandoned corpses, adding: "There are hundreds of them, all over the region."

The governor has called for the bodies to be placed into refrigerators and sent back to Russia for identification through DNA testing. But, a month into the war, it is still unclear how or if the remains of soldiers are being repatriated to Russia, where reports about the death toll have largely been silenced. The country has cracked down on any information about the realities of the bloody war, restricting access to Western media reports, as well as the social networks Twitter and Facebook, in Russian territory.

"Do you know they have brought a cremation chamber with them? They're not going to show the bodies to their families. They're not going to tell the mothers that their children died here."

Exactly how many Russian troops have been killed in Ukraine remains a mystery. The official line from Russia's defense ministry was 498 military personnel until Monday, when pro-Putin Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda published a report updating the toll to 9,861. The figure, which was attributed to the ministry and later retracted by the paper — which claimed it was hacked — has not been confirmed by the Kremlin, whose spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Tuesday told CNN: "As far as the numbers are concerned, we agreed from the very beginning that we do not divulge the information."

That number tallies with information shared with CNN by US and NATO officials, who gave a recent estimate that Russian casualties range from between 3,000 and 10,000. Ukrainian officials have claimed the toll is even higher, at more than 15,000. CNN has been unable to verify the overall number of Russian deaths.

One of the most searing, early images of the war in Ukraine was of a dead Russian soldier, his face and body obscured by a dusting of newly fallen snow. The picture, shot by New York Times photojournalist Tyler Hicks, captured the anonymity of the more than 150,000 Russians sent to fight their neighbors — and the anxiety of Russian families desperate to find out any information about their fate.

The Ukrainian government has claimed that the Russian army sent mobile crematoriums to burn their own dead. "The Russian people dying here, nobody is counting them, people dying in this war. Do you know they have brought a cremation chamber with them? They're not going to show the bodies to their families. They're not going to tell the mothers that their children died here," Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told reporters in a briefing on March 3.

On the same day, Ukrzaliznytsia, the state-owned Ukrainian Railways, said in a statement on its website that it had provided Ukraine's armed forces with 20 refrigerated cars for the removal of dead Russian soldiers from several areas, including Odesa. Just 72 hours later, Ukrzaliznytsia's chairman posted a message on his personal Telegram channel saying that Russia never came to load them. "For the sake of 'victorious' propaganda, they are ready to deprive mothers of even the opportunity to bury the bodies," Oleksandr Kamyshin wrote.
Ukraine's government said it is still waiting to receive a request from Russian authorities for the repatriation of the bodies of those killed. The Ukrainian deputy prime minister said the issue of collecting and identifying the bodies had been discussed in a meeting between Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal and the president of the International Committee of the Red Cross, Peter Maurer, on Thursday. But the ICRC has not confirmed whether it is assisting Ukraine in the return of Russian remains to their home country, which is provided for under international law.

Hints at the scale of Russia's troop losses have begun to emerge in videos and reports. On March 18, the Belarus service of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, a US-funded media organization, published images of Russian ambulance convoys appearing to arrive at field hospitals in southern Belarus, near Ukraine's border, and reported that morgues in the area were overflowing. A March 21 report by English-language Ukrainian media outlet The Kyiv Independent followed a Ukrainian emergency response unit digging up Russian soldiers buried in unmarked communal graves in Rusaniv, a village east of the capital — left in a heap without identification documents or IDs.

Russian state media reports have stuck to the 498 figure and few funerals have been documented in the country, where censorship of the war has been taken to an extreme with a new law criminalizing reporting contradicting the Kremlin. In the absence of information about Russia's dead, Ukrainians have been trying to fill in the gaps.

A website and Telegram channel established by the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs, aimed at Russian families, publishes a steady stream of photos of dead soldiers and captured young men, sometimes alongside their identity cards. The name of the site, 200rf.com, is a grim nod to Gruz-200, or Cargo-200, a military code word that came into use in the 1980s during the war in Afghanistan, used by the Soviets for the bodies of soldiers placed in zinc-lined coffins for transport.

Viktor Andrusiv, an adviser to Ukraine's internal affairs minister and the creator and coordinator of the channel, also known as "Look for Your Own," said he launched the initiative to help Russian families track down information about their soldiers. "We are not making war against the Russian people. And I don't think they should suffer because of their regime, which lies to them and says everything is good, no one is dying," he told CNN. "It's a way for us to bring them some truth."

"The problem with Russian bodies is really huge. It's thousands of them. Before the war, the weather was cold, it was okay but now we have problems ... I actually don't know what we will do in the next weeks."

But identifying dead Russian soldiers has been a difficult task. Andrusiv said only 30 have been found on the Telegram channel by their relatives, who scan through gruesome images of those killed in action for clues about whether their loved ones are alive or dead. Ukrainian forces send Andrusov images of deserted bodies, but they're often unrecognizable and have no documents on them.

"It's very difficult to identify the dead because normally they don't have documents with them, normally the commanders take their documents and put them in some boxes. Normally they die in this fire, in shelling. And you cannot identify the metal 'dog tags,' where their number is written, it gives us no information about the person," Andrusiv said.
And as March turns to April, and temperatures climb to around 60 degrees Fahrenheit, the problem is getting worse.

"The problem with Russian bodies is really huge. It's thousands of them. Before the war, the weather was cold, it was okay but now we have problems because Russians don't want to take the bodies," Andrusiv said. "I actually don't know what we will do in the next weeks with their bodies."
CNN

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by kayusely70(m): 11:00am On Mar 24, 2022
So sad![color=#990000][/color]

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by EmptyGarden(m): 11:10am On Mar 24, 2022
The way I see it, if it's happening on your turf, then you've lost already. Whenever this ends, it'll take Ukraine a really long time to recover.

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by GardenOfGod(m): 11:12am On Mar 24, 2022
kayusely70:
So sad!

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by ABIODUN105(m): 11:20am On Mar 24, 2022
Russia and Ukraine please put a stop to this war we beg you please

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Drenimarcus(m): 11:34am On Mar 24, 2022
From cnn? And no major indication that these are Russian bodies. Smh.

Propaganda don’t win wars. Izyum mopped up, irpine and marinka mopped up. Slavutyuch just got mopped up. Get out of msm news and see things for yourself.

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by God1000(m): 1:09pm On Mar 24, 2022
This war has gone awry for Putin, this might just end as pyrrhic victory for the despot and a moral victory for Ukraine

Putin is desperate and ready to do the unthinkable just to save face even if it means deploying chemical and biological weapons in Ukraine

Putin should stop blustering and browbeating about using nuclear weapons, France and UK alone will pulverise Russia without almighty US involvement

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by FalseProphet1(m): 1:09pm On Mar 24, 2022
I see Russia's presidential seat vacant by easter.

I see a secret burial taking place, I see Putin in a coffin, I see the war coming to an end.

I see another occupying Putin's seat, I see him negotiating with the west.

I see the sanctions being lifted off.

I see Ukraine joining NATO.

This I have seen.

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Rastaramsey(m): 1:10pm On Mar 24, 2022
It is glaring that Russian soldiers are dropping on a steady level grin grin grin

CNN are just trying to paint this shit otherwise, they are making it seem like Ukraine is winning......

Las Las, Putin and Russia go fall....

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Dreamhighnow(m): 1:10pm On Mar 24, 2022
ABIODUN105:
Russia and Ukraine please put a stop to this war we beg you please

Na Russian on the offensive na

So tell Russia stop killing and invading Ukraine

Ukraine is only defending

Or if a big land grabber play offensive on your family only land. It is either you surrender or you fight back

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by kingthreat(m): 1:10pm On Mar 24, 2022
Please CNN should show us the pictures of Ukrainian soldiers piling up too.
On this forum there was a video of an Ukrainian soldier shooting himself dead with an AK47 to prevent capture from the Russian army
If you think Ukraine is winning the war, you are being brainwashed as usual.
Zelensky should let Ukraine be a demilitarized neutral nation else more destruction from Ukraine even if the Russians don't win the war. .

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Rastaramsey(m): 1:10pm On Mar 24, 2022
ABIODUN105:
Russia and Ukraine please put a stop to this war we beg you please

See this one dey talk like baby angry angry angry

Abeg shift

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Nobody: 1:10pm On Mar 24, 2022
Drenimarcus:
From cnn? And no major indication that these are Russian bodies. Smh.

Most likely

In war, people die....on all sides. Winner or loser.

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by safarigirl(f): 1:10pm On Mar 24, 2022
Propaganda news

If Russia is losing 20 soldiers everyday, Ukraine is losing 60.

CNN just want to use propaganda news to deceive their people

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Sochimaobim(m): 1:10pm On Mar 24, 2022
All propaganda ��‍♂️

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Skillsnigeria: 1:10pm On Mar 24, 2022
Hmmm
Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by EyezofGod120: 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
grin
Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by H2ho(m): 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
I smell lies grin grin

All Hail Putin...the Lord of the West grin grin

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by benedictilemona(m): 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
So Ukraine is winning d war,datz wat u are trying to say.

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Jeromejnr(m): 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
CNN

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by HappyGoodWealth(f): 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
Seriously,












I don't understand this news,


And I can't read all that stuff,


I just want peace and not war.
Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by AroleOduduwa2: 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
Coming from the same media house that claimed hunter biden laptop didnt exist, the West blocked every news feed from Russia so they can feed people with fake news like this. Follow the Chinese correspondents on ground for accurate news or @RWApodcast on twitter for more accurate news with real videos and pictures.

The more absurd numbers Ukranians are putting out, the more I think they are losing. Appear weak when you are strong, appear strong when you are weak. - Sun Tzu

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Qatar2022: 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
EmptyGarden:
The way I see it, if it's happening on your turf, then you've lost already. Whenever this ends, it'll take Ukraine a really long time to recover.
That's when the West will come in
Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Nobody: 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
safarigirl:
Propaganda news

If Russia is losing 20 soldiers everyday, Ukraine is losing 60.

CNN just want to use propaganda news to deceive their people

Russia will win the war, but that does not mean that their soldiers won't die in the process.

Plus, Ukranian soldiers are dying. And it is being reported, propaganda aside (and yes, both sides news agencies are in propaganda mode).

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Klchnjoku: 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
Apparently there is something in Russia's possession that is not making the west square up to Russia on the battlefield.

Instead the only way the west is fighting this battle is by sanctions and propaganda.

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Drenimarcus(m): 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
tekjansen2:


Most likely

In war, people die....on all sides. Winner or loser.

Sure! But the article says Piling up? Where is the pile here brother?

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by victons(m): 1:11pm On Mar 24, 2022
So Ukraine is winning?

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by excelmerry: 1:12pm On Mar 24, 2022
Why are the reports on dead soldiers always on the Russian side?
Is it that the Ukrainian soldiers also do not suffer any casualties?

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Re: The Bodies Of Russian Soldiers Are Piling Up In Ukraine by Nobody: 1:12pm On Mar 24, 2022
Drenimarcus:


Sure! But the article says Piling up? Where is the pile here brother?

The bodies pile up in war, any war.

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