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Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by pansophist(m): 6:15pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
tayo60: Pidgin is not their mother tongue as well, how can are they fluent in it? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by 9jaRealist: 6:19pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Arkmanbuddy: iamdapsyj: Absolutely agree that “intelligence is way different from English speaking” but… Those folks have textbooks and academic literature, and are taught, in their languages (even same for most Arabs)! In Nigeria, where our academic textbooks and literature are virtually all in English language, there really shouldn’t be any rational excuses why any Nigerian graduate, who has purportedly studied in English (and/or English) for a minimum of 10-15 years (under the 6-3-3-4 system), should be struggling with the basics of the language of learning and instruction. We shouldn’t be making excuses for blatant MEDIOCRITY in Nigeria… Nonetheless, I don’t blame Nigerian graduates, because the reality is most of their teachers are even WORSE. > 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by Investorgee: 6:19pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Same thing that makes them not be able to speak good English is the same thing that makes English people not be able to speak their mother language. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by achorladey: 6:19pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
9jaRealist: My question is not based on stupidity |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by achorladey: 6:21pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
9jaRealist: Read again and see the contradictions. |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by 9jaRealist: 6:22pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Investorgee: Let’s quit making excuses for MEDIOCRITY… English people do not study in your own mother language for a MINIMUM of 10-15 years. Those who do, often nail it. > 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by rayval(m): 6:23pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Truvelisback: Are you asking about arrogant people or people who can’t speak English? Education is not for learning to speak English. Some can speak and have no Education and no sense Some are 50x smarter than you. But can’t speak English like you expect. It is funny how people see speaking English as intelligence. (in Nigeria) If you don’t understand, go out of Nigeria and visit diverse companies.. speak it the way you know it.. Just know your onions 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by 9jaRealist: 6:24pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
achorladey: There are NO contradictions… We know the WHY, and should be redressing it instead of making excuses. > |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by hkunle71(m): 6:27pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Me is a gooding boy. I is very hear English. I am in born was England.Only I can speaker correct English inside this whole of a Nigeria. Everybody clapping for me. God bless Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by 9jaRealist: 6:31pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
rayval: That’s not the OP’s point or question… Rather, it’s essentially why Nigerian graduates who’s supposedly studied in English for a minimum of 12-15 years struggle with it. Obviously, English proficiency is NOT intelligence… Even education is NOT intelligence, but merely LEARNING. Nonetheless, until we write academic books in our own 400-plus indigenous languages… Proficiency in the language of instruction and learning in Nigeria is still a RELEVANT consideration. > |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by achorladey: 6:32pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
9jaRealist: See the below In Nigeria, where our academic textbooks and literature are virtually all in English language, there really shouldn’t be any rational excuses for any Nigerian graduate, who has purportedly studied in English (and/or English) for a minimum of 10-15 years (under the 6-3-3-4 system), should be struggling with the basics of the language of learning and instruction. I don’t blame Nigerian graduates, because the reality is most of their teachers are even WORSE. 1. No excuse for Nigerian graduate 2. I don't blame Nigerian graduate. |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by Joexclusive: 6:32pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
The factors that contributes to this challenge are; 1. Environment 2. The sort of school 3. Peer Groups 4. Religious background. Whatever you do consistently becomes a part of you, in other words it becomes your character, your value and your skill. Graduates within this bracket are hugely influenced by the outline above and as long as you stick to this cycle, you can't, you won't, you'll never change and never grow. Once you change your environment, your peer group then you'll be forced to grow and become a better speaking individual. |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by Kingsley1000(m): 6:32pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
macville2: Do you know you speak better English than Wike, Atiku, Innoson, Dangote,Otedola et al but they are far richer than you. Do you know that most soccer players and coaches in England that have spent roughly 10yrs are still struggling with English language. Ronald has spent 8yrs in England yet his English prowess is below average. Hong Kong leader also speaks average English despite the fact that English is their first language not Mandarin |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by achorladey: 6:34pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
9jaRealist: Interesting thought Obviously, English proficiency is NOT intelligence… Good, the reason English proficiency get grades, sometimes from beginner, intermediate, very good up to expert. |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by deavicky(m): 6:37pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Truvelisback:there are people whose course does not require English. We can mark u correct if ur spell fire as faya as long as you know where u are going 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by aribisala0(m): 6:37pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Truvelisback:Why do you find it difficult to speak good Tiv or Itsekiri? The fact that you consider this a priority only shows how colonized your mind is and also how oblivious you are to the damage that English has done to our psyche. We need to do away with English and modernize our own languages . It might interest you to know that Isaac Newton wrote his famous treatise The Principia in Latin And Latin which once used to be the language of the learned is now dead and no longer spoken. English simply became what it is today by borrowing words from everywhere and so it is that Greek and Latin which enjoyed even greater prominence lost it. Ever wondered why there are so many Greek Alphabets in mathematics or why the new Testament was written in Greek when neither Jesus nor any of his followers spoke it? Very few English people speak so called "Good English", most cannot. so why should we continue to "English Shame" people when they make errors. It is not natural to us and only entrenches a "second class" position. I know this is all very difficult to swallow for those people from impoverished backgrounds who have put in so much effort into improving their English to then be told it is a waste but that is really what it is. Black Africans and by extension Nigerians are the only ones making this an issue. In the Swahili speaking area they are making moves to dump English. Tanzania has done this and that is the first step to liberation. Why should we be told that our language is "vernacular" etc? It is a disgrace At one point Ngugi Wa 'Thiongo said he was going to stop writing in English. A very admirable decision in my view. One of the reasons Nigerian music is doing well internationally is that we retain our language rhythms 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by Misterone: 6:37pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Truvelisback:go Bleep yourself. all these stupid job interviewers. that's why most of these companies fold up. instead of searching for result oriented personnels, they look for people that speak English and cannot do shit. at the end of the day, the company suffers. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by sukar886: 6:41pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
tayo60:God bless u, nice answer |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by thatsleepboy1: 6:41pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by sukar886: 6:42pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Who english help |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by kingmsookwagh(m): 6:43pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Because they don't teach people how to speak English language in the university. If you didn't learn that in your primary and secondary school days, then forget about it. Even the English (B.Art) we study in the university teaches the structure and components of the language and not how to speak it.. |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by JomasisTech: 6:44pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Truvelisback: Do you speak good English? You said "funny enough" instead of "funnily enough." English nah mates? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by Nkemimoh(f): 6:44pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Even some lecturers can't speak good English. I have one female lecturer like she speaks English demonstrating like deaf and dumb but if it comes to Yoruba speaking she's very good. English language is punishing her most times 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by aribisala0(m): 6:47pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
achorladey:Even higher than expert is "Master" at which point you can make your own rules or even your own words as Chaucer did. That is a privilege for English folk so we should mind our business and pursue proficiency in our own languages .I do not see any expert speakers of Yoruba from England so I see no reason to become an expert user "Hello, You I like , we go my house , we sleep, Good? " is all I need as I once learnt from a room mate who brought home a deaf and mute woman home one night and they were able to communicate |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by 9jaRealist: 6:47pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Juoflife1: Obviously, not those “engineers” building collapsing buildings all over Nigeria… Until medical and engineering books are written and taught in our indigenous languages… Basic proficiency in English, the language of learning and instruction in Nigeria, is a RELEVANT consideration. > 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by remirez07(m): 6:48pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Even John bull is not perfect. |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by Kingsley1000(m): 6:49pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Misterone: Don't mind him. How I wish I can unlearn my English and substitute it with French, Chinese or German. Most Nigerisns suffer from inferiority complex. Most non Uk immigrants that have stayed more than 8yrs in England are still struggling with the Language |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by 9jaRealist: 6:51pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
achorladey: aribisala0: Proficiency simply means competence… > |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by aribisala0(m): 6:52pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
JomasisTech:Why is the one better than the other ? Any rules that you can articulate or just your preference? What is "wrong" with "funny enough" what rule is broken? and why is "funnily enough" a better choice? |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by Etogist: 6:52pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
I have not spoken Igbo fluently, and you're expecting me to speak English more than the native speakers. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by womenareapess: 6:52pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
Truvelisback:you are very useless for bringing this question There are various decipline of study. Math Physics Geology and the rest Do you think all this courses required English to understand them? Use your tomatoes head to think |
Re: Why Do Some Graduates Find It Difficult To Speak Good English? by achorladey: 6:53pm On Mar 30, 2022 |
9jaRealist: Competency Abi Na proficiency get level or grade. |
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