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Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by chloride6: 3:32pm On Apr 15, 2022
Whoever secures Northern Votes will win.

Period..
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by paulolee(m): 3:32pm On Apr 15, 2022
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Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by swaggerjack: 3:33pm On Apr 15, 2022
Karlovich:
grin 12M naira speaking from his minions.

Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by Nigerialabalaba: 3:33pm On Apr 15, 2022
osinbajo odale
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by temmyyem: 3:34pm On Apr 15, 2022
Hmmm
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by RexTramadol1: 3:34pm On Apr 15, 2022
Is this all?
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by ucha1: 3:35pm On Apr 15, 2022
The two should go and rest they know nothing about economy and security
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by Nobody: 3:35pm On Apr 15, 2022
Not interested
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by wiseoneking: 3:36pm On Apr 15, 2022
They have started RUBBISHING their own because of a common ancestor who is widely known for his massive corruption. How dare you compare BAT with Osibanjo if not you are under great influence. Unfortunately, non of them will fly.
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by WATCHOVER(m): 3:36pm On Apr 15, 2022
Point one is true OP but Present Apc as a party has been rejected by most Nigerians
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by lexy2014: 3:37pm On Apr 15, 2022
I still can't understand why some Nigerian youths are fighting over politicians that have nothing to offer nigeria
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by Winters23: 3:38pm On Apr 15, 2022
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PassingShot:
I read a NL thread https://www.nairaland.com/7077990/why-tinubu-lose-osinbajo-apc#up suggesting reasons why PYO will defeat BAT in the APC primary election to select who flies the ticket of the party in 2023 and I could not help but to laugh at the naivety and desperation of the writer. Well, without paying any attention to the weak and unfounded reasons he presented in his article, I make bold to advance the following arguments to conclude that Jagaban Borgu remains the only candidate who will win the primary contest, barring any last-minute jettisoning of primaries for consensus which is not even contained in the constitution of APC.

1. Tinubu’s political structure and machineries
Even, his political foes will attest to the fact that BAT has built a well-oiled political structure that has not only survived the best of political warriors in OBJ and GEJ (with federal might), his structure has endured the worst of political earthquake and has remained very solid and functioning. In the primary contest for the presidential candidate which will be decided by delegates from APC across the 36 states, Tinubu structure will come in hand to deliver the goods.

2. BAT’s political alliance
This is somewhat related to the first point but not entirely the same. In the course of single-handedly building and strengthening his political base (ACN), Tinubu it was who took ACN into alliance with CPC, ANPP, a faction of APGA and a faction of PDP. In fact, most political watchers agreed that the 2 most important figures in that successful alliance that produced APC are Buhari and Tinubu. The rest were only needed to make up the numbers and the spread. BAT has since that alliance built a working relationship with strong politicians in the north. The likes of Ganduje, Ribadu, Ado Dogawa, Ahmed Lawan, etc. are staunch Tinubu’s supporters who will deliver the delegates from that side of the country.

3. Neutrality of PMB
PMB remains a political juggernaut whose support and influence can, to some extent determine who wins the APC ticket. From what I have read and heard, it was this support that Osinbajo was looking for that delayed his declaration. Unfortunately for him, PMB did not assure him of anything, instead preferring to be neutral and asking all the contestants to work hard to win the ticket. While it is possible for PMB to have a preference for PYO (highly doubtful), Buhari has demonstrated many times that he handles situations like this with utmost maturity and fairness to all involved. If he has forgotten how BAT deployed his resources to make him defeat Atiku and Kwankwaso in 2014 and to win the presidency in 2015 and 2019, he will surely be reminded by his close allies like Ganduje and the Senate President of this fact. And Buhari will choose to remain neutral. It is PYO who needs PMB so much and not the other way round.

4. Clear message of endorsement by the APC Senate and Rep Caucuses
Not many watchers of political development will have missed the enormous support Tinubu enjoys from the APC senators and representatives. They are not hiding it and they have been saying it loud and clear even to the hearing of PYO. You only need to watch the Senate session when BAT paid the APC caucus a visit to intimate them of his ambition. You can also listen to Ado Doguwa’s recent interview on the same subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqe6AQllcPA and here https://www.nairaland.com/7079123/doguwa-speaks-bola-tinubus-aspiration. I also read that of the seventy-something invited by PYO for Iftar, only 24 or so honored the invitation with majority of them spotting facemask with BAT logo. These speak volume about their position. They are the people that matter in this election and they are not politicians you can intimidate to change their mind. They believe in BAT and they are ready to reward his past support for them too.

5. Osinbajo has no political structure
After seven years of being the VP of Nigeria, it is a fact that PYO has no political base or structure of note with which he can be guaranteed of delegates votes. This is someone who lost his polling booth in the last general election. Irrespective of whatever sentiment anyone in the party top hierarchy may want to have for a PYO candidacy, they will realize what a dangerous option his candidacy represents for their party and they will bury the thought without wasting time.

6. Perception of PYO as someone who cannot be trusted
Like it or not, Osinbajo’s declaration has portrayed him as someone who cannot be relied upon. In politics, the currency is loyalty and anyone who is perceived as not loyal is usually avoided by those who matter. Even among those currently propping the professor on, there are those who will be murmuring within their heart that the VP cannot be trusted not to betray them at some point, especially if he becomes president and thus untouchable. I will personally be weary of such character too. Yes, he has the constitutional right to contest but he has thrown morality to the dustbin by standing up to challenge his one-time political mentor. I read a piece about how Tiinubu reluctantly agreed for Osinbajo to be the running mate to PMB out of the three names suggested to him. The fact that BAT’s choice was still going to be picked and that he eventually agreed to PYO being named as the running mate is enough for our erstwhile star boy to abandon his ambition for BAT’s.

Anyway, let’s see how far the support of sycophants and traducers of Tinubu can carry him in his quest to wrestle APC’s ticket from Jagaban.

Passingshot (O.S. Olayiwola)
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Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by Jostoman: 3:38pm On Apr 15, 2022
That is their palava
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by derecho(m): 3:39pm On Apr 15, 2022
It's welcome since it's an opinion

I hope when PMB speaks to Tinubu in the language he understands, nobody will add Buhari to the Odales?
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by ipobarecriminals: 3:40pm On Apr 15, 2022
sad opinion after opinion.Well,we'll know the flag bearer soon. I'm a Tinubus but the body language of baba Bubu,kebbi state gov etc nor be here.Baba already told us that he won't mention the name of his" paddy' make dem nor kill am.(Not Tinubu sha).Make dem nor give Pa Tee ,Ambode maximum shishi
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by Ttalk:
I don't think there's need for all these especially when it is coming from an Omoluabi.

Many supporters of Tinubu who feel Osinbajo is campaigning against Tinubu are nothing but an emotional and shallow thinkers with no idea of implication or consequence of having only Tinubu as a Yoruba person in the race.

I wouldn't want to go into details but these people should know that SW only does not make APC and SW vote cannot guarantee success of Asiwaju, on this note is the need for someone in the capacity of Osinbajo to swell the ranks of candidates contesting in the primary.

Nigeria is a nation polarised by ethnicity and religion and if that is factored into the current political situation then Osinbajo declaration should be welcome by original sons and daughters of Yorubaland

Making 2023 a Tinubu project rather than a SW project would spell doom for Asiwaju. Tinubu requires maximum support from SW just like any other candidate from SW needs such support for him to defeat the opposition in the general election. Creating a division between Osinbajo and Tinubu which could produce bitter taste that may linger beyond the primary would not do either of the candidate any good.

The goal is for SW to produce a candidate that would flag the party's ticket and not that Tinubu must flag the ticket on behalf of the entire SW. SW made Tinubu, Tinubu does not made SW
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by SmartHanif(m): 3:41pm On Apr 15, 2022
Delegates election is the most difficult election. Anything can happen in fraction of second.
PYO can't just declare without the support of the Cabals.
He might look like an easy candidate to beat but he's not. Never ever underrate a politician.
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by tunapawizzy:
Your No. 3 is wrong or not exactly valid.....PYO is PMBs choice and I think you are the only one who does not see this, except you are just using this your write-up to sway opinion of voters.......Sadly there will be a party primary election before, I agree with you that Tinubu will win the votes of delegates, because of the financial warchest and ofcourse his political might and wit(no one can doubt that). PMB has the structure of the party(i.e. how the party will produce its candidate)......Already Tinubu loyalists that understand politics are already saying Tinubu will defeat anybody "IN A PRIMARY ELECTION". There is a reason they are putting so much emphasis on "in a primary".
You just watch how the leadership of the party will eventually opt for a consensus candidate....Sadly or thankfully(depending on where u stand) it will be too late for Tinubu to float a new party. I dont ever see him decamping to PDP
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by cmikel: 3:42pm On Apr 15, 2022
Ok
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by Tiana06(f): 3:42pm On Apr 15, 2022
dedonfranco:
It will be difficult for Osinbajo to beat Tinubu in APC primary.

Tinubu has a political structure of over 25 years

Osinbajo is a VC president of Nigeria (Federal)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUgP6QCP-9o
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by lailo: 3:42pm On Apr 15, 2022
Not likely not what is going to not happen
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by treatise: 3:42pm On Apr 15, 2022
dedonfranco:
It will be difficult for Osinbajo to beat Tinubu in APC primary.

Tinubu has a political structure of over 25 years

Osinbajo is a VC president of Nigeria (Federal)
That's why CONSENSUS is on the card.
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by Gatekeepers:
You have really captured your argument with the right scenarios, but you didn't put the position of God in all this. Man propose but God opposes.

Yar'Adua never knew he would would become President. Jonathan has no plan of being a Vice President but he ended up being President.

If it pleases God that both PYO and BAT will not be, no one will oppose it

When God turns the captivity of Zion we are like them that dreams.
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by tunapawizzy: 3:43pm On Apr 15, 2022
treatise:
That's why CONSENSUS is on the card.
Leave them, they dont know shit
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by seguntijan(m): 3:43pm On Apr 15, 2022
Primary Election is the real politiking. The men will be separated from the boys.

The Vice President invited 72 APC Senators yesterday for Iftar, only 23 came and out of the 23 Senators that honoured the invitation 17 are Tinubu boys�

In fact the 17 senators are known to be campaigning for Tinubu openly since. One of the Senator said yesterday at the Iftar right in front of VP Osinbajo "Asiwaju is the candidate and Osinbajo is an Aspirant" �� Hope you know what that means... They will teach Yemi Osinbajo a bitter lesson he will never forget in politics... I don't want Yemi Osinbajo to be disgraced and embarrassed oh because I like him. But I see heavy defeat, disgrace and embarrassment in front of him.

Come May 30th, Nigerians will know Tinubu is a Political Juggernaut and the Niccolò Machiavelli of Nigeria politics.

Party politics is different from Main politics...

ASIWAJU ON YOUR MANDATE I STAND..
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by luizpippo(m): 3:44pm On Apr 15, 2022
On the PMB's neutrality score, that guy is a ruse. When it is time he would choose whoever he likes not minding whose horse is gored, all he needs do is meet with the governors, and stakeholders as usual, then ram it into their blank skulls that and Adamu is his chairmanship candidate.

And if Tinubu or Osibanjo is not the chosen one, all he can do is go and cry on the stage like that D.Olusegun (APC youth leadership aspirant guy)� cheesy grin grin grin
If he do garagara, someone would whisper something about court case in his ears on video.

* As for no political structure, hack back to Umaru Yar'Adua, all he needs is Buhari's choosing him, every structure on PMB's side becomes his own, added with whatever that can be coerced from others.


* That he cannot be trusted is equally the same with Tinubu who cannot be trusted also.


All in all, work for your Tinubu and leave house wives fables.
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by Mentcee(m): 3:45pm On Apr 15, 2022
PassingShot:
I read a NL thread https://www.nairaland.com/7077990/why-tinubu-lose-osinbajo-apc#up suggesting reasons why PYO will defeat BAT in the APC primary election to select who flies the ticket of the party in 2023 and I could not help but to laugh at the naivety and desperation of the writer.

Passingshot (O.S. Olayiwola)
You idiotically added your Yoruba name in order to be identified and compensated as a Yoruba muslim urchin.


They don't know you well as Passive fuc, sorry passingshot
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by KanwuliaExtra: 3:46pm On Apr 15, 2022
He is not a Muslim!✅
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by King44(m): 3:46pm On Apr 15, 2022
PassingShot:
I read a NL thread https://www.nairaland.com/7077990/why-tinubu-lose-osinbajo-apc#up suggesting reasons why PYO will defeat BAT in the APC primary election to select who flies the ticket of the party in 2023 and I could not help but to laugh at the naivety and desperation of the writer. Well, without paying any attention to the weak and unfounded reasons he presented in his article, I make bold to advance the following arguments to conclude that Jagaban Borgu remains the only candidate who will win the primary contest, barring any last-minute jettisoning of primaries for consensus which is not even contained in the constitution of APC.

1. Tinubu’s political structure and machineries
Even, his political foes will attest to the fact that BAT has built a well-oiled political structure that has not only survived the best of political warriors in OBJ and GEJ (with federal might), his structure has endured the worst of political earthquake and has remained very solid and functioning. In the primary contest for the presidential candidate which will be decided by delegates from APC across the 36 states, Tinubu structure will come in hand to deliver the goods.

2. BAT’s political alliance
This is somewhat related to the first point but not entirely the same. In the course of single-handedly building and strengthening his political base (ACN), Tinubu it was who took ACN into alliance with CPC, ANPP, a faction of APGA and a faction of PDP. In fact, most political watchers agreed that the 2 most important figures in that successful alliance that produced APC are Buhari and Tinubu. The rest were only needed to make up the numbers and the spread. BAT has since that alliance built a working relationship with strong politicians in the north. The likes of Ganduje, Ribadu, Ado Dogawa, Ahmed Lawan, etc. are staunch Tinubu’s supporters who will deliver the delegates from that side of the country.

3. Neutrality of PMB
PMB remains a political juggernaut whose support and influence can, to some extent determine who wins the APC ticket. From what I have read and heard, it was this support that Osinbajo was looking for that delayed his declaration. Unfortunately for him, PMB did not assure him of anything, instead preferring to be neutral and asking all the contestants to work hard to win the ticket. While it is possible for PMB to have a preference for PYO (highly doubtful), Buhari has demonstrated many times that he handles situations like this with utmost maturity and fairness to all involved. If he has forgotten how BAT deployed his resources to make him defeat Atiku and Kwankwaso in 2014 and to win the presidency in 2015 and 2019, he will surely be reminded by his close allies like Ganduje and the Senate President of this fact. And Buhari will choose to remain neutral. It is PYO who needs PMB so much and not the other way round.

4. Clear message of endorsement by the APC Senate and Rep Caucuses
Not many watchers of political development will have missed the enormous support Tinubu enjoys from the APC senators and representatives. They are not hiding it and they have been saying it loud and clear even to the hearing of PYO. You only need to watch the Senate session when BAT paid the APC caucus a visit to intimate them of his ambition. You can also listen to Ado Doguwa’s recent interview on the same subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqe6AQllcPA and here https://www.nairaland.com/7079123/doguwa-speaks-bola-tinubus-aspiration. I also read that of the seventy-something invited by PYO for Iftar, only 24 or so honored the invitation with majority of them spotting facemask with BAT logo. These speak volume about their position. They are the people that matter in this election and they are not politicians you can intimidate to change their mind. They believe in BAT and they are ready to reward his past support for them too.

5. Osinbajo has no political structure
After seven years of being the VP of Nigeria, it is a fact that PYO has no political base or structure of note with which he can be guaranteed of delegates votes. This is someone who lost his polling booth in the last general election. Irrespective of whatever sentiment anyone in the party top hierarchy may want to have for a PYO candidacy, they will realize what a dangerous option his candidacy represents for their party and they will bury the thought without wasting time.

6. Perception of PYO as someone who cannot be trusted
Like it or not, Osinbajo’s declaration has portrayed him as someone who cannot be relied upon. In politics, the currency is loyalty and anyone who is perceived as not loyal is usually avoided by those who matter. Even among those currently propping the professor on, there are those who will be murmuring within their heart that the VP cannot be trusted not to betray them at some point, especially if he becomes president and thus untouchable. I will personally be weary of such character too. Yes, he has the constitutional right to contest but he has thrown morality to the dustbin by standing up to challenge his one-time political mentor. I read a piece about how Tiinubu reluctantly agreed for Osinbajo to be the running mate to PMB out of the three names suggested to him. The fact that BAT’s choice was still going to be picked and that he eventually agreed to PYO being named as the running mate is enough for our erstwhile star boy to abandon his ambition for BAT’s.

Anyway, let’s see how far the support of sycophants and traducers of Tinubu can carry him in his quest to wrestle APC’s ticket from Jagaban.

Passingshot (O.S. Olayiwola)
Omo if peradventure he loses primaries he should opt for another party. Loyalty to thieves is not a kind of loyalty that is beneficial to the nation in general

All of them are saying trash about loyalty because of what they hope to gain, and their need that may not be fulfilled with the nations wealth.
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by Karleb(m): 3:47pm On Apr 15, 2022
Obviously, Tinubu will win APC primary.

The only person that can give Tinubu a run for his money is Atiku.

Make we dey look.
Re: Reasons Tinubu Will Floor Osinbajo At APC Presidential Primary by Nobody: 3:47pm On Apr 15, 2022
chloride6:
Whoever secures Northern Votes will win.

Period..
More like...He who wins the middle belt wins the elections.

PDP won in 2003, 2007 and 2011, without Northern votes . They lost in 2015 because they lost states like Benue, Kaduna, Kwara to APC then.
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