GreenCovering:

Better to base my faith on a revealed Book of God than on a mashup of personal writings and which must regularly get retrofitted in attempts to make their contents consistent.




So if I am consistent in telling lies, then I am consistent all the same. Then I am truthful. Wao! Just wao!!

so if the bible is telling lies then leave Islam because your prophet confirmed the bible and the torah. why are you still a muslim since you know better than your prophet.


Can you prove your book is a revelation from God.NO. Can i prove mine is no as well. but i can base my belief of historical accounts of eye witnesses or people that knew the eye witnesses to give a historical account. you don't have that. you have to start from your book is revelation from God. Huge leap of faith my brother in humanity

Janosky:

Freeze is correct for the fact that Jesus did not die on Friday of every year in the name of "good Friday ".
" Good Friday " is a man made contraption.


If my post give you sifia pains,better you stay in your lane & endure jejely.

You are very correct.

Christians will leave the original mandate God gave to them to be celebrating stupid occasions for God.

Some biblical commandments and duties God assigned to christians they can't keep.

Love your neighbor as your self they can't keep.

Scratch christian person car I go no say no be christian that person be.

Nonsense na why church tire me

Freeze is a mistake that happened in our generation.

Very toxic to the marrow.

Gorgeous1guy:
With Daddy Freeze's wealth of knowledge and deep understanding of scriptural things yet, he can't maintain a single woman?

If there isn't controversy about the fact that Jesus did actually died and rose again, of what significance are these arguments? It's not different from those arguing that Jesus wasn't born on 25th Dec....so far he was indeed "born"

Anytime am bored, i just come to nairaland to read comments and laugh away. There's virtually no single topic that you people won't fight or lash at each other? Naija is indeed hard for many....

Please and please, Daddy Freeze has no deep understanding of any scripture. The guy is just a confused human being who peddles falsehood coated with sweet rhetorics. Even a year one theology student sees how laughable some of his teachings are. But then again this is Nigeria where falsehood sells because of high level of Ignorance. The other day, Reno Omokri and Freeze had a 'debate' on the divinity of Jesus. The most laughable part of it was that they titled it 'The Greatest Debate after Nicaea' lol. Like seriously! Do they even understand the basic discussion at Nicaea, Ephesus, Calchedon etc.

Levinas:


Please and please, Daddy Freeze has no deep understanding of any scripture. The guy is just a confused human being who peddles falsehood coated with sweet rhetorics. Even a year one theology student sees how laughable some of his teachings are. But then again this is Nigeria where falsehood sells because of high level of Ignorance. The other day, Reno Omokri and Freeze had a 'debate' on the divinity of Jesus. The most laughable part of it was that they titled it 'The Greatest Debate after Nicaea' lol. Like seriously! Do they even understand the basic discussion at Nicaea, Ephesus, Calchedon etc.

Oga go and sit down

Stop imposing stupid cultures and doctrines that God didn't give christians to obey.

NaijaOlosho:


Oga go and sit down

Stop imposing stupid cultures and doctrines that God didn't give christians to obey.

ur moniker shows u are a joke

Nothing to argue here... Christianity is a big joke. That was why I dumped their ass

That Rev.Father go wuked o....I know he just wan respect hin position as it may not allow him exchange words with Freeze.
Anyways, never start what you aren't ready to finish

[s]Uprightness100:
Freeze to me looks like someone specifically recruited by Lucifer to confuse people and Package them to Hell.

The guy is always with one Controversy or the other. Things that have nothing to help with the soul of Humanity and Eternity.[/s]

You and sense are light years apart and I have always known that.
You're clearly the one recruited by the devil to spread lies and falsehood and that you are gladly doing, all the monikers you have Righteousness2, Righteousness89, Holiness2000, Holinessforever, Uprightness100, GardenofGod and a whole lot of others I'm yet to unravel are a testament to that.

I have listened to Freeze a few times and anyone who studies his Bible knows he's shallow.

[quote author=Uprightness100 post=112021108]Freeze to me looks like someone specifically recruited by Lucifer to confuse people and Package them to Hell.

The guy is always with one Controversy or the other. Things that have nothing to help with the soul of Humanity and Eternity.[ my dear you put it mildly, u should have been more bold daddy freeze is an anti christ, he doesn't know the Lord jesus christ, so how can he teach about him ,he can decieve his fellow slaves of Satan, certainly not God's children....

BluntTheApostle:


On the third day is equivalent to after three days

Don't confuse a simple statement with how the grammar was presented.

Jesus was supposed to be dead for 3 days, not less, not more.

English is very much dynamic, but the story is constant.

Jesus couldn't have died on Friday and risen on Sunday morning.

The jews were supposed to fast for 3 days night and day. using your logic clearly she should go to the king on the the fourth day. but she goes on the third. This is so clear a blind man can see that

yes on the third day is equivalent to after 3 days based on how they patterned their time then. just like i can tell you i work 5 days a week. but that does not mean I work 24 hours a day. i work just 8 hours a day. not a perfect analogy but just to give an example of how english grammar is not always a direct correlation


they will flog him and kill him. On the third day he will rise again.” luke 18: 33
very clear here.

Akwamkpuruamu:
Na only on top church matter Freeze de talk, yet he keep jumping from one woman to another

" Jumping from one woman to another" ? That's a fat lie bro ! Why do you guys like spreading such falsehood ??

He got divorced due to physical battery and abuse from previous wife and has now remarried. Had he remained in the previous marriage, one of them could have killed the other.

Please stop the lies.

Full gist needed

Uprightness100:
Freeze to me looks like someone specifically recruited by Lucifer to confuse people and Package them to Hell.

The guy is always with one Controversy or the other. Things that have nothing to help with the soul of Humanity and Eternity.

Exactly. Just see how he's confusing several persons here. Some foolish persons who think there can rewrite the Bible.

This is the kind of argument that Apostle Paul warned his son Timothy to stay away from because they are pointless and waste of time.

Whether he resurrected on a Sunday morning or Monday morning, it doesn't matter; What matters is the fact that he died and rose again on the 3rd day and how you decide to calculate your 3rd day is upto you.

The Rev father progressed in error, social media is like pple personal life if you share your thoughts on your personal page if I don't agree with you I simply move pass the post.. Or better still in chinua achebe word if you don't like my story write yours!

proprince:
See this foolish freezer telling him about etiquette he shld have as a reverend father. You think because people are keeping silent they are fools?

Face your match.
The reverend father go treat u Bleep up.
Idada

On the contrary, he took the Rev father to the cleaners.

madegreatbygrace:
I agree with Freeze on this. Jesus couldn’t have died on Friday and resurrected on a Sunday. That’s not three days and three nights.

Read Bible you no go read, go church u no go go...
Jesus resurrected on the 3rd day he did not died for 3 days.
Make I stop here maybe you go wake up from your ignorance from this one

Janosky:

Freeze is correct for the fact that Jesus did not die on Friday of every year in the name of "good Friday ".
" Good Friday " is a man made contraption.


If my post give you sifia pains,better you stay in your lane & endure jejely.

freeze is always attacking the teachings of the church. Some of the things he use to say maybe be correct but he failed to understand that the church does certain things for a reason. It's not everything taught by the church that's in the Bible but if those things are good enough to lead people to salvation then allow them to to so, christ already gave the church an authority before he left. Everyone have the right to believe what the want to so if u don't believe Christ died on Friday and rise on Sunday, fine but leave those who believe alone.

crimo:


yes on the third day is equivalent to after 3 days based on how they patterned their time then. just like i can tell you i work 5 days a week. but that does not mean I work 24 hours a day. i work just 8 hours a day. not a perfect analogy but just to give an example of how english grammar is not always a direct correlation


they will flog him and kill him. On the third day he will rise again.” luke 18: 33
very clear here.

Your argument makes sense using Luke 18:33.

Otherwise, if Jesus died on Friday, sundown begins Saturday, and Saturday ends at sundown (one day and one night).

Sunday begins at sundown (Jesus rose between sundown and sunrise). It is still Sunday.

Friday, Saturday, Sunday make three days.

But the nights are not complete!!!

derecho:
I have listened to Freeze a few times and anyone who studies his Bible knows he's shallow.

It's not true. Try and listen to him without sentiments and emotions, I mean with clear mind.
Freeze understands the scriptures more than a whole lot of men who parade themselves as pastors. He's always open to a debate and has got the relevant biblical passages to back up any claim unlike most pastors who throw tantrums and ride on sentiments.

The deep freezer too pain naaamm..Rev Fr vawuuulence dey body�

GreenCovering:
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

Holy Qur'an 4:157
(Sahih International)

Truth right here!

Truth right where?

BluntTheApostle:


Your argument makes sense using Luke 18:33.

Otherwise, if Jesus died on Friday, sundown begins Saturday, and Saturday ends at sundown (one day and one night).

Sunday begins at sundown (Jesus rose between sundown and sunrise). It is still Sunday.

Friday, Saturday, Sunday make three days.

But the nights are not complete!!!

The Jews were supposed to fast for 3 days night and day. using your logic clearly she should go to the king on the the fourth day. but she goes on the third. This is so clear a blind man can see that. Point is the bible is consistent when you examine the Esther story.from the context of the bible 3 days and 3 nights would mean Jesus rises on the third day

Angelfrost:
I'm no fan of Freeze, and will never hold brief for him.

However, Everybody with even half a brain knows that Roman Catholicism is very much based on a foundation of ancient paganism!

Christian celebrations are not scriptural! Whether Christmas, New Year, or Easter! Simple historic search clearly shows them to be a colonization and renaming of ancient Pagan holidays.

That Reverend is even more jobless and ignorant than Freeze!

Wanted to ignore but i have to reply you. The Catholic church has existed for 2000 years, so its quite possible there re Roman customs infused in it. BUT, during Easter, Christmas, Good friday, Ash wednesday,etc, It is the God and his son Jesus Christ dat is Glorified/celebrated! It is NOTJanus, Zeus or any Roman emperor! So really, Christians and Catholics have DONE NOTHING WRONG at all! Infact, we re promoting Values of God/christianity!

Uprightness100:
Freeze to me looks like someone specifically recruited by Lucifer to confuse people and Package them to Hell.

The guy is always with one Controversy or the other. Things that have nothing to help with the soul of Humanity and Eternity.

Hmm... Lucifer? Do you even know who Lucifer is? In your mind you will say yes. I'm sure about that. But pls do read 2nd Peter 1:19 and Revelation 22:16. It's important to note that Peter in the former verse quoted was referring to Christ as the morning star here and Christ later conferred that title on himself in Revelation 22:16. So how people confer the title "Lucifer" to the devil is erroneous.

You can also use Google translator (Engish-Latin) on the text provided in 2 Peter 1:19. Thanks.

A critic that can’t stomach criticism. I didn’t know Freeze was this cowardly. Monday to Sunday he commits himself to criticizing churches, but a tiny pill of his own dose is what is driving him crazy. Bloody coward!

Friend,don't need to listen long to a person to know the spirit operating in a person and his/her depth.We don't read bible to debate, we study to show ourselves "approved unto God" not men.

When you meet people who know the Bible, it won't be hard to spot them especially if you are a child of God yourself.
There are so many things that are exciting to a carnal man
but not God's counsel. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned bro.

It's not about dazzling the crowd and much words.When you meet people who know God, even if they are "uneducated" , you'll know this person knows the Word. The people he's calling to debate maybe entertainers like him who speak what they've not encountered.

Anybody can argue anything...there are even fools who say there's no God and it makes sense to them.

The only thing I enjoy about him is he raising questions any seeker should ask but he should be humble enough to learn. Those following him are "catching cruise".However, when the blind leads the blind, they'd both fall into the ditch.

Kingosytex:


It's not true. Try and listen to him without sentiments and emotions, I mean with clear mind.
Freeze understands the scriptures more than a whole lot of men who parade themselves as pastors. He's always open to a debate and has got the relevant biblical passages to back up any claim unlike most pastors who throw tantrums and ride on sentiments.

proprince:
See this foolish freezer telling him about etiquette he shld have as a reverend father. You think because people are keeping silent they are fools?

Face your match.
The reverend father go treat u Bleep up.
Idada

Hate Freeze the way you like but the Reverend was wrong. Very wrong. What I see most people do is instead of facing Freeze intellectually, they stoop low to attack his personality.

So after a Muslim mod promoted this sh**t to the front page with the aid of the so called Freezer to discredit Christ death and resurrection. Some well meaning but ignorant Christians jumped here on Nairaland to defend their fellow ignorant Freezer.
But let me dissapoint you all, I have been following both Rev Fr Kelvin Ugwu and the so called Freezer and I need not a soothsayer to tell me who is learned and reasonable among them. But let me set the record straight, judging from the cognitive abilities of both without sentiment Daddy freezer need to go back to pre nursery school.

lastchild:
This daddy freeze, is he a pastor?

Does it really matter? Freeze is always in point..... nigeria version of christianity is full of ignorant fools , who just swallow what their pastors tell them .