₦airaland Forum

nitrogen:
So, they were lazy and not physically fit when they came second last season?

if they were not and ole knew his onions, we would have won the league

boss other teams were average, we were the only one with a healthy squad and we still managed to bottle the league

raumdeuter:
What brings fighting spirit if not tactics? Will you say Ronaldo Bruno McTominay Fred lack fighting spirit? Is it until players bite opponent before they have fighting spirit? The tactics are uncoordinated

From one bad coach to another from Mourinho to Ole to Rauf

As in! No need for excuses, Rauf is not better than Sean Dyche!

Marcus Rashford has told #mufc he now wants to be part of the future under Erik ten Hag, and is expected to instigate talks about a new and improved contract that will keep him at United for the foreseeable future #mulive [@CrossyDailyStar]

Must be serious ment

Kilishihunter:
But wait fess don make we reason something, But you be Pendu fan a while back na? Shey na because him join united things start to dey fall apart between una ni?

Many Shekpites were in the Barca thread canvassing for Pendu back then against the dwarf, but as e join Man U things come fall apart

nitrogen:
As in! No need for excuses, Rauf is not better than Sean Dyche!

Sean Dyche is actually better than Rauf

raumdeuter:
What is the evidence that the players have downed tools, Once again i will use last seasons Chelsea as evidence you can see the difference in play between Lampard and Tuchel

Same with Spurs this season.

both managers were offered permanent managerial roles, don't 4get

Ellexy:
William Gallas: "He's [Pogba] not [mentally] strong enough and his performances show he's not strong enough to be consistent for one season. He only did it when he was at Juventus and then he joined #mufc." #mulive [@GentingCasino]

God go give all of us long lives. You will see peple like Maguire in the studio criticizing players in the near future. Thats why when I see people like Carragher and Neville dissing players I just shake my head. Na dem go talk talk wont even let the real ballers make a complete statement

You will see studio audience Henry quiet, Keane quiet Scholes picking thought one by one but Neville and Carragher go dey run mouth like radio Nigeria

Same Gallas that broke down to cry on the field is the one claiming a player is not strong mentally

I watched most of these players at the peak of their careers and just SMH when I hear them running commentary

Cyberrex:
both managers were offered permanent managerial roles, don't 4get

What of Ole? He was interim won games and became full time unlike ralf

raumdeuter:
What of Ole? He was interim won games and became full time unlike ralf

What happened after he became the permanent coach?

for me I'm happy with the way things turned out or else some of you lots will insist we don't sign new coach but use ralf permanently or insist we keep some players that we should have bin long before now

KingTom:
Many Shekpites were in the Barca thread canvassing for Pendu back then against the dwarf, but as e join Man U things come fall apart

Kilishihunter:
But wait fess don make we reason something, But you be Pendu fan a while back na? Shey na because him join united things start to dey fall apart between una ni?

Change is constant

Bombblacks:
The man has done absolutely nothing. What process are you trusting?

Abi?, he should just leave our club let the glazers and class of 92 continue making decisions for the club. We can even rehire ed woodward.

donstan18:
Change is constant

Hope say you no go drag mount if he decamp go the "other side",

donstan18:
Change is constant

Hope say you no go drag mount if he decamp go the "other sides",

Cyberrex:
What happened after he became the permanent coach?

for me I'm happy with the way things turned out or else some of you lots will insist we don't sign new coach but use ralf permanently or insist we keep some players that we should have bin long before now

Ole did well as interim, Ralf failed as interim

LMDyaya:
Abi?, he should just leave our club let the glazers and class of 92 continue making decisions for the club. We can even rehire ed woodward.

kk

Hannibal is in the starting line-up for the U23 game, so unlikely to be part of the first team squad against Arsenal.

raumdeuter:
God go give all of us long lives. You will see peple like Maguire in the studio criticizing players in the near future. Thats why when I see people like Carragher and Neville dissing players I just shake my head. Na dem go talk talk wont even let the real ballers make a complete statement

You will see studio audience Henry quiet, Keane quiet Scholes picking thought one by one but Neville and Carragher go dey run mouth like radio Nigeria

Same Gallas that broke down to cry on the field is the one claiming a player is not strong mentally

I watched most of these players at the peak of their careers and just SMH when I hear them running commentary

Well a thief knows a fellow thief, it's that simple. That Gallas is not mentally strong according to you [because he cried in the field which many players do] doesn't change anything.

nitrogen:
Na today interim manager dey win games without his players? Tuchel did not buy a bird, but he won the UCL with players that ‘supposedly’ sacked Lampard. Zidane nko? I don’t understand why you are holding brief for this guy.

I agree that some players are quite shitty, but let’s honest now, Rauf is not a good manager.

Ghenghen football, for fuvks sake, this guy started managing at age 25, and he is 63 this year, but he has done anything of note in his coaching career. E no shock you?

You're missing the point. Rangnick is a coach known for Ghenghen pressing. He's not a flexible coach that'll play 3 at the back to get results like Tuchel.

If you look past the anger you feel towards him for the results, you'll see the point I'm trying to make.

Imagine Ten Hag came into this team half way into the season like Rangnick. We'll probably be conceding 4 every game cuz Ten Hag only knows how to play one way. Just like Pep, just like Klopp.

Ellexy:
Well a thief knows a fellow thief, it's that simple. That Gallas is not mentally strong according to you [because he cried in the field which many players do] doesn't change anything.

In a league game not a knockout o

The same Gallas who threatened to injured his teammates and score own goals if he wasnt allowed to leave Chelsea

nitrogen:
Oya, mention the first team players that their contracts will run out next season.

Pogba
Lingard
Matic
Dalot
Fred
Shaw
Rashford
Ronaldo
Cavani

Contracts all expire this summer or the next just like i said.
Mata

See camera angle for Old Trafford.

patrickmuf:
I think some of the players if not most have downed tools while Rangnick has shown that he can only do it his way...

A manager that is flexible would've peppered over the cracks with his set up but then again, it does the team no good in the long run.

I will fault the players for not trying enough and Rangnick for his lack of flexibility...

Hmmm

raumdeuter:
In a league game not a knockout o

The same Gallas who threatened to injured his teammates and score own goals if he wasnt allowed to leave Chelsea

Gallas could be a crybaby for all I care, that's not the point. It doesn't change anything about what he said. You're only reacting because it's coming from someone like Gallas.

ChristoBam:
Pogba
Lingard
Matic
Dalot
Fred
Shaw
Rashford
Ronaldo
Cavani

Contracts all expire this summer or the next just like i said.
Mata

So, you believe these players are no more interested? And they can move to another clubs to play in the UCL? These are professionals ffs. I don’t buy what you are saying jare!

raumdeuter:
What brings fighting spirit if not tactics? Will you say Ronaldo Bruno McTominay Fred lack fighting spirit? Is it until players bite opponent before they have fighting spirit? The tactics are uncoordinated

From one bad coach to another from Mourinho to Ole to Rauf

You have the whole defenders playing rubbish, and you're mentioning these 4? 4 out of 10 on the field, let's assume all 4 are playing as they should.

eph12:
You have the whole defenders playing rubbish, and you're mentioning these 4? 4 out of 10 on the field, let's assume all 4 are playing as they should.

If they are playing rubbish then its the tactics that is wrong. These players were playing well at some point in their career before you bought them, Some still play well immediately they go for international break

So why will they suddenly lose fighting spirit when they step int Old Trafford

raumdeuter:
If they are playing rubbish then its the tactics that is wrong. These players were playing well at some point in their career before you bought them, Some still play well immediately they go for international break

So why will they suddenly lose fighting spirit when they step int Old Trafford

I don't see them play together as a unit for the same country. Playing with others can rub off on them but together as a unit, won't work.

True, Rangnick tactics is wrong because these players can never play his style, and he probably won't or doesn't know another style. If I'm to choose between his style and those players, I know what I'd choose

United Season Point Finishes Post-Fergie

Curr. - 6th | 15W | 9D | 9L = 54P (Ole / RR) 5 matches left
20/21 - 2nd | 21W | 11D | 6L = 74P (Ole)
19/20 - 3rd | 18W | 12D | 8L = 66P (Ole)
18/19 - 6th | 19W | 9D | 10L = 66P (Mou / Ole)
17/18 - 2nd | 25W | 6D | 7L = 81P (Mou)
16/17 - 6th | 18W | 15D | 5L = 69P (Mou)
15/16 - 5th | 19W | 9D | 10L = 66P (LVG)
14/15 - 4th | 20W | 10D | 8L = 70P (LVG)
13/14 - 7th | 19W | 7D | 12L = 64P (Moyes)

Make of this data what you will.

Mourinho...

United Season Point Finishes During Fergie

12/13 - 1st | 28W | 5D | 5L = 89P
11/12 - 2nd | 28W | 5D | 5L = 89P
10/11 - 1st | 23W | 11D | 4L = 80P
9/10 - 2nd | 27W | 4D | 7L = 85P
8/9 - 1st | 28W | 6D | 4L = 90P
7/8 - 1st | 27W | 6D | 5L = 87P
6/7 - 1st | 28W | 5D | 5L = 89P
5/6 - 2nd | 25W | 8D | 5L = 83P
4/5 - 3rd | 22W | 11D | 5L = 77P
3/4 - 3rd | 23W | 6D | 9L = 75P
2/3 - 1st | 25W | 8D | 5L = 83P
1/2 - 3rd | 24W | 5D | 9L = 77P
0/1 - 1st | 24W | 8D | 6L = 80P
99/0 - 1st | 28W | 7D | 3L = 91P
98/99 - 1st | 22W | 13D | 3L = 79P
97/98 - 2nd | 23W | 8D | 7L = 77P
96/97 - 1st | 21W | 12D | 5L = 75P
95/96 - 1st | 25W | 7D | 6L = 82P
94/95 - 2nd | 26W | 10D | 6L = 88P
93/94 - 1st | 27W | 11D | 4L = 92P
92/93 - 1st | 24W | 12D | 6L = 84P

Data culled from premierleague[.]com/clubs/12/Manchester-United/season-history