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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:34am On May 05, 2022
Put Aiyegbeni in such a situation and he will do even better and start at an earlier age performing well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:44am On May 05, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Do you think Brazil invest so much in kids is just for fun? It is to give them better opportunities to makeit. See Vinicius Jr. Below.
The Osimehn,Iheanacho,Success,Awoniyi,Chuckwueze,Nwakili Ndidi and co are all products of Nigeria investment and this gave them the needed opportunities to be where they are now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:48am On May 05, 2022
Kog45:
Oh background abi,Yak Aiyegbeni had 96 EPL goals but had his background with amateur club Okomu oil in Edo,moving to Julius Berger,from there to Gil Vincent on loan and later Macabi Haifa in Israeli league.

Oga,Tammy talent not background help him to break into Chelsea team or are you saying if he was born in Nigeria he wouldn't have had the opportunity.

I gave you simple fact that Osimehn not good start with Wolfsburg made Tammy to have more career goals,now to you Tammy worked with a good team in Chelsea.....Sir,do you know how many UK born who have solid background than Tammy that failed to break into Chelsea team.

Oga,Tammy is England international and having more career goals than Osimehn doesn't make him better than Osimehn cos it seems is insulting to say he had career goals than Victor.


Do you think Brazilian communities do not know why the invest in scouting special talents at very young ages and give them the exposure?

Now Rodrygo at 17 years signs for Real Madrid and yesterday scored two goals at 21 years in the Champions league semi finals.

Please, their backgrounds is a big edge.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 8:51am On May 05, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Put Aiyegbeni in such a situation and he will do even better and start at an earlier age performing well.
just like someone is given 100 thousands to start a business and another is given 1 million who among them is more likely to succeed?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:52am On May 05, 2022
Kog45:
The Osimehn,Iheanacho,Success,Awoniyi,Chuckwueze,Nwakili Ndidi and co are all products of Nigeria investment and this gave them the needed opportunities to be where they are now.

But you can not compare them to that of the Europeans and even Brazil. That is why I pointed out earlier that I kicked against bringing in foreigners for the U17. It is the only thing that scrapes the kind of opportunities the foreign kids get. It is very minute in comparison. But, with that little opportunity, our boys make use of it. It does not equate it to that of the Europeans in any way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:53am On May 05, 2022
maidaboi:
just like someone is given 100 thousands to start a business and another is given 1 million who among them is more likely to succeed?

More like N10,000 and another is given N10,000,000.

Even if the person with N10,000 succeeds, it will take him a longer time if both have the same business intelligence capacity.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:55am On May 05, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Put Aiyegbeni in such a situation and he will do even better and start at an earlier age performing well.
I think player like Nwakili had better opportunity than Aiyegbeni according to your assertions but what can you say about his progress despite teemed up with Arsenal as a teenager.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:57am On May 05, 2022
Kog45:
I think player like Nwakili had better opportunity than Aiyegbeni according to your assertions but what can you say about his progress despite teemed up with Arsenal as a teenager.

Players joined Chelsea academy at 7 years and still failed and another grew up in Nigeria and is playing as a top striker for Napoli.

That is not the point. The point is the opportunity to succeed. Tammy made good use of his opportunity with his talent and hard work. Osimhen had to take a longer route.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:59am On May 05, 2022
Kog45:
I think player like Nwakili had better opportunity than Aiyegbeni according to your assertions but what can you say about his progress despite teemed up with Arsenal as a teenager.

Unless you are saying Tammy's background at Chelsea did not help, I do not understand the argument.

Tammy's background helped him. If you ask him, he will let you know. Phil Foden's background helped him too. There are many Nigerian players who will achieve more with such opportunity.

This is just a plain fact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:00am On May 05, 2022
Fans don't care about records if they still get taunt in Europe and pellegrini and mancini didn't spend half of what guardiola has spent
TheGoodJoe:


Pellegrini did not win four domestic titles in a season. Pellegrini did not take us to the champions league finals. Guardiola just took us to the champions league semi finals after taking us to the finals just last season.

Guardiola won the EPL breaking multiple records.

He has won the EPL 3 times in four years. Just amazing.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:04am On May 05, 2022
If any coach spend what guardiola has spent over the years and all he achieved is just one champions league final in Europe he is a failure , GUARDIOLA IS A FAILURE
andrewbaba44:


Ucl finals

10 trophies in a short period

Mancity and pellegrini didn’t win half of that grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:04am On May 05, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Unless you are saying Tammy's background at Chelsea did not help, I do not understand the argument.

Tammy's background helped him. If you ask him, he will let you know. Phil Foden's background helped him too. There are many Nigerian players who will achieve more with such opportunity.

This is just a plain fact.
Oga Joe I hail o.....meaning Tammy would have been a poor player and possibly end it in NPFL.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:05am On May 05, 2022
isan:
Fans don't care about records if they still get taunt in Europe and pellegrini and mancini didn't spend half of what guardiola has spent

So now it is spend. Mancini would spend more if he was in today's market. Do you think it was beans to buy Balotelli, Silva, Dzeko, Kolarov, Yaya Toure, Nasri, Clichy, Sagna, Aguero and the others?

Whether fans get taunts, it does not change the fact that we are unbelievable under Guardiola. Do you know what it means to go 90 mins with Real Madrid without them having a shot on target, while attacking them?

Give Guardiola his props. He is doing very well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:07am On May 05, 2022
Like Guardiola will make Top 10 with Roma ........mourinho is a better coach than guardiola . ...know this and know peace
andrewbaba44:


The funny thing is that Your mourinho hype always end here

He can’t even make seria A top 4 with poor form from juventus and Atlanta

He will be lucky to get a Sevilla job .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:08am On May 05, 2022
isan:
If any coach spend what guardiola has spent over the years and all he achieved is just one champions league final in Europe he is a failure , GUARDIOLA IS A FAILURE
Pep has done well though not winning champions league with man city is a question mark but he is not a failure
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:08am On May 05, 2022
Kog45:
Oga Joe I hail o.....meaning Tammy would have been a poor player and possibly end it in NPFL.

Tammy made use of his background through talent and hard work. How does a talented hard-working player mean poor player?

The point is that a player like Tammy might not get the chance to become a top player if born in Nigeria. Might even end up in the NPFL but that does not mean he is a poor player.

There are many brilliant talented players in Nigeria that do not even get the chance to play in our local academies. You made that point earlier.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:12am On May 05, 2022
the same Madrid that Chelsea put 3 past in 90 minutes you are bragging of reducing them to no shot on target grin and how is he no shot on target in 90 minutes when you concede 2 goals
TheGoodJoe:


So now it is spend. Mancini would spend more if he was in today's market. Do you think it was beans to buy Balotelli, Silva, Dzeko, Kolarov, Yaya Toure, Nasri, Clichy, Sagna, Aguero and the others?

Whether fans get taunts, it does not change the fact that we are unbelievable under Guardiola. Do you know what it means to go 90 mins with Real Madrid without them having a shot on target, while attacking them?

Give Guardiola his props. He is doing very well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:15am On May 05, 2022
isan:
Like Guardiola will make Top 10 with Roma ........mourinho is a better coach than guardiola . ...know this and know peace

Because guardiola lost a semi finals against Madrid then suddenly mou is better than him

Mou is better than pep in your compound and your village ,the footballing world thinks otherwise

Atlanta coach use to make it to the champions league with Atlanta but here you are giving excuse with your finished mourinho

You better stop clowning
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:15am On May 05, 2022
Man city owner is gentle guardiola is doing what PSG are doing in france and they still fire thier coach every season
Kog45:
Pep has done well though not winning champions league with man city is a question mark but he is not a failure
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:17am On May 05, 2022
Only your village people can agree guardiola is better than mourinho because they started watching football 10 years ago
andrewbaba44:


Because guardiola lost a semi finals against Madrid then suddenly mou is better than him

Mou is better than pep in your compound and your village ,the footballing world thinks otherwise

Atlanta coach use to make it to the champions league with Atlanta but here you are giving excuse with your finished mourinho

You better stop clowning
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 9:17am On May 05, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Ucl finals

10 trophies in a short period

Mancity and pellegrini didn’t win half of that grin
Pellegrini didn't spend £1B either.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:18am On May 05, 2022
isan:
If any coach spend what guardiola has spent over the years and all he achieved is just one champions league final in Europe he is a failure , GUARDIOLA IS A FAILURE

Common keep quiet there ,suddenly you are back from your hiding hole because city lost a semi finals

What has Man U coaches won with all they have spent ?

You just want to disgrace yourself with this arguement grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:19am On May 05, 2022
Barryseal:

Pellegrini didn't spend £1B either.


Pellegrini got is preferred players so what’s your point ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:23am On May 05, 2022
isan:
Only your village people can agree guardiola is better than mourinho because they started watching football 10 years ago

The point is clear here

You hide like a rabbit and wait for guardiola to loose one game then you come out of your hole ,you only have something to say when guardiola lost a game

Your mou was disgraced from Spain by same guardiola cheesy cheesy

Ordinary champions league your mou cannot qualify Roma and your are here blabbing cheesy cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 9:27am On May 05, 2022
andrewbaba44:



Pellegrini got is preferred players so what’s your point ?
And with that no manager scored more goals and won more trophies than him during his spell in England. So what's the whole point exaggerating Pep Guadiola?
Klopp dusts Guadiola hands down in this game. Klopp is streets ahead of Pep
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:28am On May 05, 2022
Look at Chelsea they spend half of what your mentor has spent and still won everything
andrewbaba44:


Common keep quiet there ,suddenly you are back from your hiding hole because city lost a semi finals

What has Man U coaches won with all they have spent ?

You just want to disgrace yourself with this arguement grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:31am On May 05, 2022
isan:
Look at Chelsea they spend half of what your mentor has spent and still won everything

It doesn’t change the fact that guardiola have the same amount of champions league with Chelsea

Fear Dey catch you to talk about mourinho cheesy

Next agenda ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:32am On May 05, 2022
How did he lose just one game ? undecided he bottled a champions league final against a underwhelming Chelsea side that just sacked their coach and just finding their feet under a new manager and yesterday he bottled a champions league semi final with just 2 minutes to play ...tell your mentor to go and learn how to protect a lead
andrewbaba44:


The point is clear here

You hide like a rabbit and wait for guardiola to loose one game then you come out of your hole ,you only have something to say when guardiola lost a game

Your mou was disgraced from Spain by same guardiola cheesy cheesy

Ordinary champions league your mou cannot qualify Roma and your are here blabbing cheesy cheesy

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:35am On May 05, 2022
Barryseal:

And with that no manager scored more goals and won more trophies than him during his spell in England. So what's the whole point exaggerating Pep Guadiola?
Klopp dusts Guadiola hands down in this game. Klopp is streets ahead of Pep

What’s your point on talking down on guardiola ?

Klopp haven’t even won half of guardiola trophies but he dust him hands down ,be deceiving yourself

Klopp lost about 4 finals before he won his first finals ,I am sure if it was guardiola you will be here capping trash

Klopp have 1 champions league and guardiola have won 2 ,so what’s your point

FYI guardiola was still a footballer when klopp have been coaching but we know who achieve pass

Everybody hates guardiola because he is not at their club grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:39am On May 05, 2022
isan:
How did he lose just one game ? undecided he bottled a champions league final against a underwhelming Chelsea side that just sacked their coach and just finding their feet under a new manager and yesterday he bottled a champions league semi final with just 2 minutes to play ...tell your mentor to go and learn how to protect a lead

He lost the champions league finals ,it’s not a crime ,because you are trying too hard to troll you don’t know when to use the world bottle grin

Guardiola can loose a final and be labeled a fraud but Jürgen klopp can loose 4 finals grin

Your useless mourinho bottled a 3-1 against juventus but it’s guardiola own your care about grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:40am On May 05, 2022
A mourinho fan thinks he can troll guardiola here ,shameless people always hiding till pep loose any game

Even Madrid fans don’t even have the time to troll guardiola

I will drag you all like tiger generator grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 9:50am On May 05, 2022
andrewbaba44:


What’s your point on talking down on guardiola ?

Klopp haven’t even won half of guardiola trophies but he dust him hands down ,be deceiving yourself

Klopp lost about 4 finals before he won his first finals ,I am sure if it was guardiola you will be here capping trash

Klopp have 1 champions league and guardiola have won 2 ,so what’s your point

FYI guardiola was still a footballer when klopp have been coaching but we know who achieve pass

Everybody hates guardiola because he is not at their club grin
How convenient for you to list the achievements of a man who has operated with unlimited resources all his coaching career to another who has had to carve out a niche for himself, cutting his teeth at smaller clubs, yet the difference between them is 1 Champions league which Klopp could match in a matter of weeks.
Klopp towers above Pep 100%

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