TempUser:
Are you kidding yourself?

Kriss216:
Keep deceiving yourself.

jumper524:

Sugar quoting religious content to suit your personal beliefs might not be your real intention but also note that this same thing you apply is also in the Bible.
Try to understand we both have a common enemy and that enemy is not the opposite religion but religious fanatics and selfish politicians who uses religion as a means for electoral success.

TempUser:
Are you kidding yourself?

jumper524:


Quran 2:191 – “And kill them wherever you find them…”

Critics as usual apply ‘cut and choose’ approach with regards to this passage (Quran 2:191). They only quote, “And kill them wherever you find them…(2:191). However, when we read the passage in its context (2:190-195) it says opposite what they portray of the verse.

Quran 2:190 – 195

2:190 Fight in the way of Godthose who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors.
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, God is Forgiving and Merciful.
2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.
2:194 [Fighting in] the sacred month is for [aggression committed in] the sacred month, and for [all] violations is legal retribution. So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you. And fear God and know that God is with those who fear Him.
2:195 And spend in the way of God and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, God loves the doers of good.

It’s important whenever one reads a Quranic verse, to read it in its context. As you have read, critics only quote the part which suites them, they isolate previous verses and the ones after. When the passage is examined in context, it is clear that nowhere does it sanction the killing of innocent people. From verse 2:190 to 2:195, when read, Allah makes it evident to fight those only who fight them, fighting in self-defence.

Another thing some love to do with the verse is, change the Arabic word’s meaning. Example, the Arabic word ‘Fitna’ used in 2:191 and 2:193, they deceptively have translated the word as ‘disbelief’. So, when it’s read in that perspective, the passage is implying to fight to those who are disbelievers, just because of their religion. This again when we examine it, it will turn out to be a lie. The Arabic word ‘Fitnah’ means ‘persecution’, ‘corruption’, ‘sedition’. But when the word ‘Fitnah’ is used in verse 2:191 and 2:193 it means ‘persecution’.

TempUser:
Are you kidding yourself?

peepydelano:
Islam does not support killings in any form, don’t be misled by some hoodlums who took law into their hands, if we are to go by your pictorial posts then we also have some bible verses too similar to this with pictorial evidence as below.The unfortunate incident is barbaric and justice should prevail and same treatment be served to the perpetrators, it is sad and condemnable and you all should understand that Islam does not in anyway support such.

yuping:
people like you cus avoke and tyranny wherever you are, you bring out quote, that favors you and course confusions among people. Why not bring out the entire quote or if you don't know, Google search it what you are doing now is not just bad.
You might win this argument but you have successfully mislead lots of people and put hate in others mind.

peepydelano:
Islam does not support killings in any form, don’t be misled by some hoodlums who took law into their hands, if we are to go by your pictorial posts then we also have some bible verses too similar to this with pictorial evidence as below.The unfortunate incident is barbaric and justice should prevail and same treatment be served to the perpetrators, it is sad and condemnable and you all should understand that Islam does not in anyway support such.

Ayesolve:
I am a Christian but not that stupid type oh, my own Christianity is the one that if you want to take my life or step on my feet I will kill you first. Most of the christians in the north are fools they don't want to defend their selfs.

Kriss216:


Quran 2:191 – “And kill them wherever you find them…”

FatherOfJesus:
So why then does Muslims kill alot?
It doesn't support killing but Islam holds the world most terrorist group

jumper524:
Lalasticlala it's Friday please let's put some religious content on front page.

Yesterday I almost gave up on Islam.
I saw the audacity of those boys, they felt they were doing the right thing, that audacity comes with a lot of back up from stronger elites, even our former vice president had to delete his Facebook post. Maybe because he values his political ambition than justice or probably share same beliefs.
Going through some comments on Facebook, you'll be surprised that even educated Muslim who can do research on their own fall for this beliefs.
It got to a point I taught maybe Islam really permits the killing of blasphemy but the reverse is the case after my research..

But one thing Islam really forbids and condem is fornication. Islam prescribes 100strokes of cain for fornication but how often do we see news of people being flogged for fornication in those religious states?

If educated Muslims don't come out to condemn such atrocities, then hate filled religious scholars would keep deceiving ignorant fellas.

peepydelano:
We will all be in a better place and get it right when we learn to hold ourselves accountable for our actions and not tie it to some misguided religious beliefs,most of these evil boys you see don’t even pray neither do they perfectly understand the teachings of the Quran.There are also countries,regions where Muslims are been killed in millions on the daily, should we also dwell on that to justify such evil act? No one has any right to take a life you can’t create,killing in any form should totally be condemned and justice be duely served, never let some hoodlums misguide you into believing that any religion justifies such evil and barbaric actions. Sad �

peepydelano:
We will all be in a better place and get it right when we learn to hold ourselves accountable for our actions and not tie it to some misguided religious beliefs,most of these evil boys you see don’t even pray neither do they perfectly understand the teachings of the Quran.There are also countries,regions where Muslims are been killed in millions on the daily, should we also dwell on that to justify such evil act? No one has any right to take a life you can’t create,killing in any form should totally be condemned and justice be duely served, never let some hoodlums misguide you into believing that any religion justifies such evil and barbaric actions. Sad �

IMAliyu:
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:

A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (ﷺ) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (ﷺ) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (ﷺ) was informed about it.

He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.

He sat before the Prophet (ﷺ) and said: Messenger of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.

Thereupon the Prophet (ﷺ) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.

حَدَّثَنَا عَبَّادُ بْنُ مُوسَى الْخُتَّلِيُّ، أَخْبَرَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ الْمَدَنِيُّ، عَنْ إِسْرَائِيلَ، عَنْ عُثْمَانَ الشَّحَّامِ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ، أَنَّ أَعْمَى، كَانَتْ لَهُ أُمُّ وَلَدٍ تَشْتُمُ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَتَقَعُ فِيهِ فَيَنْهَاهَا فَلاَ تَنْتَهِي وَيَزْجُرُهَا فَلاَ تَنْزَجِرُ - قَالَ - فَلَمَّا كَانَتْ ذَاتَ لَيْلَةٍ جَعَلَتْ تَقَعُ فِي النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَتَشْتِمُهُ فَأَخَذَ الْمِغْوَلَ فَوَضَعَهُ فِي بَطْنِهَا وَاتَّكَأَ عَلَيْهَا فَقَتَلَهَا فَوَقَعَ بَيْنَ رِجْلَيْهَا طِفْلٌ فَلَطَخَتْ مَا هُنَاكَ بِالدَّمِ فَلَمَّا أَصْبَحَ ذُكِرَ ذَلِكَ لِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَجَمَعَ النَّاسَ فَقَالَ ‏"‏ أَنْشُدُ اللَّهَ رَجُلاً فَعَلَ مَا فَعَلَ لِي عَلَيْهِ حَقٌّ إِلاَّ قَامَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَقَامَ الأَعْمَى يَتَخَطَّى النَّاسَ وَهُوَ يَتَزَلْزَلُ حَتَّى قَعَدَ بَيْنَ يَدَىِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَنَا صَاحِبُهَا كَانَتْ تَشْتِمُكَ وَتَقَعُ فِيكَ فَأَنْهَاهَا فَلاَ تَنْتَهِي وَأَزْجُرُهَا فَلاَ تَنْزَجِرُ وَلِي مِنْهَا ابْنَانِ مِثْلُ اللُّؤْلُؤَتَيْنِ وَكَانَتْ بِي رَفِيقَةً فَلَمَّا كَانَتِ الْبَارِحَةَ جَعَلَتْ تَشْتِمُكَ وَتَقَعُ فِيكَ فَأَخَذْتُ الْمِغْوَلَ فَوَضَعْتُهُ فِي بَطْنِهَا وَاتَّكَأْتُ عَلَيْهَا حَتَّى قَتَلْتُهَا ‏.‏ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ أَلاَ اشْهَدُوا أَنَّ دَمَهَا هَدَرٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani)

Reference: Sunan Abi Dawud 4361 : Book 40, Hadith 11 : Book 39, Hadith 4348

This is what's referenced in regards to blasphemy, insults towards Muhammad, and justification for killing and/or the death penalty.

jumper524:
There is nothing in the Quran or the authentic teachings of Prophet Muhammad justifying the killing of people for opposing, criticizing, humiliating or showing irreverence toward holy personages, religious artifacts, customs and beliefs of Islam.
The Quran says:
Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah,
lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance.
Thus We have made alluring to each people its own doings.
In the end will they return to their Lord,
and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did. [6:108]
Also
who believe! Let not some men among you ridicule others:
It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former):
Nor let some women ridicule others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former):
Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames:
Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed:
And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong. [49:11]
Those who avoid the greater crimes and shameful deeds, and, when they are angry even then forgive;" [42:37]

FatherOfJesus:
I think something is fundamentally wrong with Islamic teachings and practices hence the outrageous level of fundamentalism. I'm an atheist but I really do not see Christians being as fanatical as Muslims.

You guys should fix yourself else you will face serious Islamophobia from everyone. You people are very intolerant.

TempUser:

Tell that to your clerics reading rubbish to the masses and brainwashing them. Tell that to Muslims who are hardened - and mostly don't even have a kuran. Be like say una dey ment sef.

FatherOfJesus:
I think something is fundamentally wrong with Islamic teachings and practices hence the outrageous level of fundamentalism. I'm an atheist but I really do not see Christians being as fanatical as Muslims.

You guys should fix yourself else you will face serious Islamophobia from everyone. You people are very intolerant.