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Re: The NBA Begins by Thanos(m): 7:51pm On May 24, 2022
Skrrrrrrr:


Doncic dribbles the ball down the shot clock. That is a ball hogger. Spencer and Brunson can create their own shots, they won against the jazz without Doncic.
This your talk reminds me of skip bayless argument when ever he wants to defend ben simmons. Bringing up that one game in utah. If no be say doncic dragged their assess to the playoffs, you for dey defend brunson and Dinwiddie like this ? Lol. This is a case of suffering from success
Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 7:54pm On May 24, 2022
Thanos:

This your talk reminds me of skip bayless argument when ever he wants to defend ben simmons. Bringing up that one game in utah. If no be say doncic dragged their assess to the playoffs, you for dey defend brunson and Dinwiddie like this ? Lol. This is a case of suffering from success

Again, comprehension is your problem. I am not defending Brunson and Dwindle. I'm saying their productivity does not nullify the fact that Luca is a ball hogger.
Re: The NBA Begins by Android22: 7:55pm On May 24, 2022
Thanos:

Klay, curry,poole,wiggins are all stars. Bro, you are better than this na.
2- The problem with you people is that in your mind, basketball can only be played in one way and manner. If it's not played that way, it is rubbish. You do not seem to understand that coaching and personnel go a long way in determining how your team plays. Andrew Wiggins is the 4th best player on GSW. On my mavs team, he would be the second option. That is a fact. After doncic, the talent difference between him and our second best player is so wide, you can fit a spaceship in it. Dinwiddie is having a career renaissance because of doncic not in spite of doncic. Someone that was rotting away on the wizard's bench. These guys are only in the playoffs because of the quality of Luka, not other way around. They do not have the players to play the system you believe qualifies as great basketball. Moreover, he is still young. He has time. Every point you have used to against luka has actually shown how much more he is doing with less. Every remaining team has at least 2 all star players or all defense players. Luka is the lone star on this team and has brought them this far. If you cannot understand that....
https://synergysports.com/impacting-other-players-shot-quality/
Bros, those people you called all stars were not all stars before Curry but because of Curry. His way of playing maximized their talent. That is what we are saying.

Andrew Wiggins by draft should be the best player on the roster, he is only the 4th option because we play team basketball and every one plays their roles. As a result, Wiggins does not have the pressure to score so many points but that does not mean he doesn't get a chance. Every player on the roster will touch the ball several times before a point is scored. Why then praise Luka for not taking the initiative but then blame Curry for doing so. It is like Curry is being judged unfairly and we will not stand for it.

Dinwiddie already said why his scoring dropped after starting well on the Wizards. He was being told to reduce his scoring because other players were fighting for contracts. Then you want to say the Warriors should not be praised because we can manage such situations better than others? Come on.

If Luka becomes more inclusive to win, the other players around him will play better. You are trying hard to convince us that Luka has to play that way for his team to stand a chance yet the evidence and data calls cap on that. Luka is like 2-7 in the playoffs when he scores 40 points or more. Maybe he should learn from Curry and try to score 28 so that other players will contribute more and see if it will not result in more Ws for his team.
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 7:58pm On May 24, 2022
I am a huge dallas fan and watch doncic a lot. He is a not a post up player. Klay Thompson post up more players than him i am sure. Russell westbrook also.

The post game is not really in his repertoire which is interesting for his height

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Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 7:58pm On May 24, 2022
I am a huge dallas fan and watch doncic a lot. He is a not a post up player. Klay Thompson post up more players than him i am sure. Russell westbrook also.


The post game is not really in his repertoire which is interesting for his height
Re: The NBA Begins by Android22: 8:00pm On May 24, 2022
donlittle25:
I am a huge dallas fan and watch doncic a lot. He is a not a post up player. Klay Thompson post up more players than him i am sure. Russell westbrook also.

That is what I was telling them. Showing me one or 2 highlights of Curry dunking does not mean he has it in his bag. But they say it is Luka hate all because I want Luka to adjust the way he plays so we can be sure the others around him are bad.
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 8:05pm On May 24, 2022
I can’t really blame luka for this series loss tho. Don’t see what he can do better. You are not beating the warriors with brunson as your second best player.

bullock was 0-11 in the last game. Kleiber and the other white kid was terrible too.

Cuban is going to have to get him a second star soon because with the way the league is going, if you don’t have two or three big time players, You won’t win.

I wonder if we can go after oladipo next year. Whoever will play second fiddle to Doncic needs to be extremely great at defense.

We also need a good center that can bang in the post and i believe nurkic is entering free agency. I hope dallas pursues him and get him to sign with us.

With Dipo and Nurkic, i can see us competing against teams like warriors because dipo can attack the paint, and when things get tough, you can draw plays for someone like nurkic in the post and he can also bang with them in the low post.
Re: The NBA Begins by Thanos(m): 8:07pm On May 24, 2022
Android22:
Bros, those people you called all stars were not all stars before Curry but because of Curry. His way of playing maximized their talent. That is what we are saying.

Andrew Wiggins by draft should be the best player on the roster, he is only the 4th option because we play team basketball and every one plays their roles. As a result, Wiggins does not have the pressure to score so many points but that does not mean he doesn't get a chance. Every player on the roster will touch the ball several times before a point is scored. Why then praise Luka for not taking the initiative but then blame Curry for doing so. It is like Curry is being judged unfairly and we will not stand for it.

Dinwiddie already said why his scoring dropped after starting well on the Wizards. He was being told to reduce his scoring because other players were fighting for contracts. Then you want to say the Warriors should not be praised because we can manage such situations better than others? Come on.

If Luka becomes more inclusive to win, the other players around him will play better. You are trying hard to convince us that Luka has to play that way for his team to stand a chance yet the evidence and data calls cap on that. Luka is like 2-7 in the playoffs when he scores 40 points or more. Maybe he should learn from Curry and try to score 28 so that other players will contribute more and see if it will not result in more Ws for his team.
Your first 2 paragraphs, I agree completely. Your last two. NOt so much.
1- Dinwiddie said that. Does not make it true. I did not watch wizards much but from analysis videos, man was not playing well. He is not a starting PG in this league. The amount of lay-ups he misses is enough to drive you mad, and neither is he a high volume scorer. Even in Brooklyn, that was more or less D'Angelo Russel's team. So lets not start making Dinwiddie look like a 6th man of the year abeg.
2- The playbook is out on the mavs, let Luka eat and guard other players to wear him down. Or trap Luka and let the other beat you. Every game of Luka in the playoffs, I've watched them. In the last one, bullock and Maxi Kleber went 0/15. How is he supposed to make up for that?
Game 2, Dinwiddie that everyone is using as the stick to beat Łuka score 4 points? Then the clippers series, do not even get me started. Remembering the amount of corner 3's Richardson,Finner-smith,Klever and Brunson contrived to miss gives me ptsd to this day.
Bros, forget talks. Answer me this. This mavericks team, are they overachieving or underachieving?
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 8:10pm On May 24, 2022
Thanos:

Your first 2 paragraphs, I agree completely. Your last two. NOt so much.
1- Dinwiddie said that. Does not make it true. I did not watch wizards much but from analysis videos, man was not playing well. He is not a starting PG in this league. The amount of lay-ups he misses is enough to drive you mad, and neither is he a high volume scorer. Even in Brooklyn, that was more or less D'Angelo Russel's team. So lets not start making Dinwiddie look like a 6th man of the year abeg.
2- The playbook is out on the mavs, let Luka eat and guard other players to wear him down. Or trap Luka and let the other beat you. Every game of Luka in the playoffs, I've watched them. In the last one, bullock and Maxi Kleber went 0/15. How is he supposed to make up for that?
Game 2, Dinwiddie that everyone is using as the stick to beat Łuka score 4 points? Then the clippers series, do not even get me started. Remembering the amount of corner 3's Richardson,Finner-smith,Klever and Brunson contrived to miss gives me ptsd to this day.
Bros, forget talks. Answer me this. This mavericks team, are they overachieving or underachieving?
On God though, Game two i almost broke my TV. Him and frank KinikanKiniKan drove me nuts

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Re: The NBA Begins by Thanos(m): 8:12pm On May 24, 2022
donlittle25:
I am a huge dallas fan and watch doncic a lot. He is a not a post up player. Klay Thompson post up more players than him i am sure. Russell westbrook also.

The post game is not really in his repertoire which is interesting for his height

Lol. Bro. Are you for real?

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Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 8:15pm On May 24, 2022
Thanos:

Lol. Bro. Are you for real?
The discrepancies between the 1st and 6 is almost 10 lol. That should give you an idea.
Re: The NBA Begins by Thanos(m): 8:15pm On May 24, 2022
Thanos:

Jokic is a center for crying out loud!!! He is supposed to have more post ups than doncic. Doncic cannot post up? Why am I even continuing this discussion? You are beginning to sound like a livescore merchant. Forget about the games. Do you even watch highlights? Na wa. You are saying all doncic does is penetrate and pass out to the wings. What else is he supposed to do? Does he have a decent center to run pick n rolls with? Mavs play a five out system, he does what is expected of him. Jokic does what is expected of him in the system nuggets play. So what you are saying makes no sense. So doncic should play differently from his team's tactics so he can validate himself in your eyes as the better player? Abeg...

Re: The NBA Begins by Thanos(m): 8:16pm On May 24, 2022
donlittle25:
The discrepancies between the 1st and 6 is almost 10 lol. That should give you an idea.
I don't get it. You expect a guard to post up more than a center? In today's NBA?
Re: The NBA Begins by Thanos(m): 8:19pm On May 24, 2022
Android22:
Luka is not a more versatile scorer than Jokic. Luka is almost a 1 trick pony. Jokic can post you up, shoot the mid range, 3 pt etc. Jokic is a more versatile passer. Luka's passing game is predominantly collapse the defense and pass to the wings. If they make the shot, good or else nothing. Luka is just expected to score more than Jokic and he does it which is why he is great. If you want to talk about a wobbly roster, then you can make the argument for Jokic which is why he is the MVP. Until then, Luka is still up and coming.
Doncic is the only person in the top 10 that is not a big man. For real though. You guys do not watch mavs ball so it's understandable. Just stop using analysts narrative to debate a player's capabilities. Someone watching skip bayless would think lebron james is a scrub.

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Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 8:23pm On May 24, 2022
Thanos:

I don't get it. You expect a guard to post up more than a center? In today's NBA?
That man is 6’7 lol. with shoes probably 6’8. when his threes are not falling, i expect him to eat from the post against guards, I mean barbecue but he doesn’t.

Watch post up games of Klay then go back and watch doncic. For a guard with that height, i expect him to be taller
Re: The NBA Begins by Thanos(m): 8:26pm On May 24, 2022
donlittle25:
That man is 6’7 lol. with shoes probably 6’8. when his threes are not falling, i expect him to eat from the post against guards, I mean barbecue but he doesn’t.

Watch post up games of Klay then go back and watch doncic. For a guard with that height, i expect him to be taller
Okay, so the guard that post's up the most, needs to post up the more? Got it. It is this unrealistic expectations from players that make people trash luka. Especially coming from a mavs fan.

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Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 8:32pm On May 24, 2022
Thanos:

Okay, so the guard that post's up the most, needs to post up the more? Got it. It is this unrealistic expectations from players that make people trash luka. Especially coming from a mavs fan.
How i they trash am oga?
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 8:47pm On May 24, 2022
donlittle25:
The discrepancies between the 1st and 6 is almost 10 lol. That should give you an idea.

1 to 5 are centers,
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 8:50pm On May 24, 2022
donlittle25:
That man is 6’7 lol. with shoes probably 6’8. when his threes are not falling, i expect him to eat from the post against guards, I mean barbecue but he doesn’t.

Watch post up games of Klay then go back and watch doncic. For a guard with that height, i expect him to be taller

Magic Johnson himself does not post up more than Luka. He posts up more than any wing player in the nba today as a PG and you say he should still do more. If 2s, 3s and 4s are posting up less than him, that alone should tell you what is going on

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Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 8:55pm On May 24, 2022
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/playtype-post-up/
That is a list of the post up plays per game in the playoffs. It just shows people don't watch games and just start regurgitating narratives. Using Klay as an example of post up player is a blasphemy

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Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 9:46pm On May 24, 2022
There are too many false narratives I have lost count. On Doncic he is a heavy post up player because of his size against other guards and some wing players. He recognizes this advantage and utilizes quite often. More so, opponents are wary of doubling him when he posts under the paint because of his passing. I think, it’s one reason I get frustrated with him when he moves away from it in search of the 3 ball.

With that being said, Doncic still has a long way to go before I can entertain comparison against the Chef/ Jokic..I have been on record here saying Doncic needs help because he is playing with a bunch of scrubs/ nobodies but the Mavs tactics of having 2 PGs and shooting 3s is catered towards Doncic after they lost Porz. While this may be an unpopular opinion, I think Porz would have given the Warriors nightmares in this series and counter what they are doing with Looney. Not saying they would beat the Warriors with Porz but it would not be as easy as it has been.
Re: The NBA Begins by Android22: 10:03pm On May 24, 2022
Thanos:

Doncic is the only person in the top 10 that is not a big man. For real though. You guys do not watch mavs ball so it's understandable. Just stop using analysts narrative to debate a player's capabilities. Someone watching skip bayless would think lebron james is a scrub.
There is reason I stopped posting here, when people are cornered they change the arguments completely. I don't need any data showing me that Luka posts up more than Curry for e.g. We got to this point because I showed you one of the ways Jokic was more versatile in scoring than Luka. Bringing up his post up stats do nothing to your argument unless they show that he did them better than Jokic. Did he? No. So I was right.
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 11:42pm On May 24, 2022
Roland17:
There are too many false narratives I have lost count. On Doncic he is a heavy post up player because of his size against other guards and some wing players. He recognizes this advantage and utilizes quite often. More so, opponents are wary of doubling him when he posts under the paint because of his passing. I think, it’s one reason I get frustrated with him when he moves away from it in search of the 3 ball.

With that being said, Doncic still has a long way to go before I can entertain comparison against the Chef/ Jokic..I have been on record here saying Doncic needs help because he is playing with a bunch of scrubs/ nobodies but the Mavs tactics of having 2 PGs and shooting 3s is catered towards Doncic after they lost Porz. While this may be an unpopular opinion, I think Porz would have given the Warriors nightmares in this series and counter what they are doing with Looney. Not saying they would beat the Warriors with Porz but it would not be as easy as it has been.


Porz cannot stay healthy, that's the issue, in the bubble they were killing the Clippers with him on the court and you know what happened, he got hurt again. You can dream up all the match ups you want that Porz can help with, but the key is he will probably not be healthy enough to even suit up to play.

PS: With due respect to Steph, he has only ever made the playoffs 2x in his career in a season where no other player on his team was an all-star, and in both seasons he won only 1 series. So the fact is Steph, like any other winning player, has had a lot of help to facilitate his winning

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android22: 12:30am On May 25, 2022
lol

Curry took 2 games from The San Antonio Spurs. In game 1, he dropped 44 and Pop decided to box and one him. That same SAS team absolutely destroyed Lebron and the Heatles 4-1 in the NBA finals in one of if not the most 1-sided NBA finals in modern history.

You people's nonsense is not new here.

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Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 2:21am On May 25, 2022
father God, don’t disgrace your son. One game my lord
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 2:52am On May 25, 2022
Look at Finney-Smith attacking the paint
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 3:27am On May 25, 2022
See as water leak for Arena dey embarass M. Cuban grin
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 3:36am On May 25, 2022
This is embarrassing
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 3:44am On May 25, 2022
Android22:
lol

Curry took 2 games from The San Antonio Spurs. In game 1, he dropped 44 and Pop decided to box and one him. That same SAS team absolutely destroyed Lebron and the Heatles 4-1 in the NBA finals in one of if not the most 1-sided NBA finals in modern history.

You people's nonsense is not new here.

Another lie, that Spurs team lost to the Heat. Also, you know what, after trapping him he had 22pt, 16pt,22pt, 9pt and 22pt in the next 5 games to lose the series.
If any of Doncic or even Tatum posts any of these numbers in a series and loses, you will kill them. Tatum had a 10pt outing the other night and people were questioning whether he was a superstar or not.
Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 3:51am On May 25, 2022
Ok. Looks like the warriors decided to give the Mavericks one game.
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 4:11am On May 25, 2022
Jesus christ
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 4:22am On May 25, 2022
Having to bring Luka back in because lead is shrinking. I swear to God, Dinwiddle gives me HBP

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