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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by Jakumo(m): 7:43am On May 28, 2022
Catalytic converter theft has reached EPIDEMIC proportions in the USA right now. Gangs drive through neighborhoods carrying jacks and power tools, and they are capable of surgically removing the "cats" from any car in less than 15 seconds. Here is a video of a gang removing the cats from a police officer's car in California. The precious metals platinum and palladium are removed and purified for sale due to their extreme rarity and high price as raw materials in the car manufacturing industry.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlODV1eJljM

Sometimes the raised car falls on the thief and squashes them like a rat in a trap, resulting in death or severe injury, meaning that Ogun, the God of Iron is also at work in the USA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC89-OzCdJs

Americans never fail to spot a business opportunity, so a new industry has been created marketing metal plates that bolt underneath cars to protect the cats from being stolen when the vehicles are parked anywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnrtLuzAg8o

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by iLoveYouToo(m): 7:43am On May 28, 2022
Dynamicboss:


The vehicle will no filter harmful emission such as hydrocarbon, nitrogen and carbonmonoxide gas. Fuel mixture and Combustion takes place inside the engine (cylinder, valve, etc)

Okay. Except you say it’s psychological, I actually noticed a significant spike in my fuel consumption when mine was cut out.

I do know that there’s a correlation

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by clinician2x: 7:46am On May 28, 2022
I belong to international lexus forums and catalytic converter does not impact furl consumption rather it worsens it by creating a back pressure when it's clogged.

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by fullnetwork: 7:48am On May 28, 2022
Clonelord:
You need to find the street name of that catalytic converter else men no go know wetin you dey talk About
9ja know it as catalyst. Simple.
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by HazzanTazzan(m): 7:49am On May 28, 2022
Tovard:
Nothing of such. It is an Africa mentality and the car mechanicals who have embedded the ideas into our head.

Removing car catalyst doesn't increase fuel consumption.

You don’t know what you’re saying ... have the one in your car removed and come give testimony here

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by HazzanTazzan(m): 7:51am On May 28, 2022
Dynamicboss:


It will only increase CO emission to the air hence causing more carbon deposits at the exhaust system of the vehicle

And what’s the effect of this on fuel consumption? Nothing ? U no do science ?
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by HazzanTazzan(m): 7:52am On May 28, 2022
clinician2x:
I belong to international lexus forums and catalytic converter does not impact furl consumption rather it worsens it by creating a back pressure when it's clogged.

And no indirect effect on fuel consumption
You people sef ...

U go dey speak English but people who have had first hand experience tell you what they have seen and how they solved it by buying a new catalytic converter but you still come here to claim something else ...

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by PROPEACE: 7:54am On May 28, 2022
Clonelord:
You need to find the street name of that catalytic converter else men no go know wetin you dey talk About
In France where I am, we call it Indomie. grin
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by nedekid: 7:55am On May 28, 2022
Skyfornia:
Absolute yes
Absolutely No!
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by Nobody: 7:56am On May 28, 2022
It does not, it only ensures that NOx emitted from the exhaust is cleaned before being released to the atmosphere.

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by anyicash(m): 7:57am On May 28, 2022
Clonelord:
You need to find the street name of that catalytic converter else men no go know wetin you dey talk About
hahahahaha you are right o.. Ok let's call it INDOMIE
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by Nobody: 7:57am On May 28, 2022
clinician2x:
I belong to international lexus forums and catalytic converter does not impact furl consumption rather it worsens it by creating a back pressure when it's clogged.

That's true.

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by babz11(m): 7:57am On May 28, 2022
Clonelord:
You need to find the street name of that catalytic converter else men no go know wetin you dey talk About


Na indomie them they call am for local mechanic shop
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by Ameboperoo(m): 7:57am On May 28, 2022
Clonelord:
You need to find the street name of that catalytic converter else men no go know wetin you dey talk About
Indomie!
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by fayomim: 8:02am On May 28, 2022
Clonelord:
You need to find the street name of that catalytic converter else men no go know wetin you dey talk About

Indomie is the best name to use
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by FireUpNow(m): 8:02am On May 28, 2022
As someone once said, you need to use the street name for men to educate you better
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by franchasofficia: 8:05am On May 28, 2022
GAZZUZZ:
In most modern vehicles, when there is an engine or transmission malfunction , it displays the check engine light, this switches the vehicle from standard operating design, to one that limits power output and protects the engine or transmission from further damage that could result in continued use in that state.

You would notice things like

check 4WD

Traction off

VSC OFF

And so on.

In certain circumstances the engine would be limited to revs below 3000 rotations per sec.

Irrespective of the presence or absence of a catalyst, an engine or transmission code will cause a vehicle to run less optimally which in turn would mean the vehicle consume more than it should.

Avoid errors on your vehicle at all costs.


You can also check this thread to acquire more knowledge about devices that help detect errors.

https://www.nairaland.com/6885954/xtool-advance-ad10-auto-car

You can also check this link if your car does not have a catalyst.

https://www.nairaland.com/6280487/catalytic-converter-problems-cheap-solution#96462231

Finally you can follow this link for smart devices .

https://www.nairaland.com/7147283/smart-devices-hottiecoach

How can one correct and turn off the lights for:


Traction off

VSC off
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by adanny01(m): 8:06am On May 28, 2022
Buharifan:
Car experts,

Please how true is this assertion?


The catalytic converter doesn't directly affect fuel economy, what actually affects fuel economy is the 2 oxygen sensors, one located before it and the second on it.

Using my car as example, the first Oxygen sensor (upstream) is called Air/fuel ratio sensor. This is the most important sensor with regards to fuel economy regardless of whether the CAT is there or not. It's job is to measure the level of oxygen in the exhaust gases before the CAT. High oxygen means more fuel is required (lean) and low oxygen means too much fuel (rich). The normal oxygen called stoichiometric ratio is 14.7:1, that is 14.7 parts oxygen to 1 part fuel.

This sensor is responsible for maintaining this ratio and the output of this sensor is used by the ECU to increase or reduce injectors fuel supply, this is called fuel trim.

The effect of disconnecting this sensor is called open loop, where the ECU supplies fuel based on standard set values which otherwise will be supplied by the Airfuel ratio sensor in a closed loop. This standard values ensures delivery of fuel enough for all situations, this is sometimes higher than required so the car consumes more fuel.

The second oxygen sensor (downstream) is responsible for checking the catalytic converter function and is used my the ECU to make fuel trims that will be efficient and minimize harmful emissions.

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by franchasofficia: 8:07am On May 28, 2022
clinician2x:
I belong to international lexus forums and catalytic converter does not impact furl consumption rather it worsens it by creating a back pressure when it's clogged.
How can one turn off the following dashboard lights on a Lexus SUV:


Traction off

VSC off
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by franchasofficia: 8:08am On May 28, 2022
adanny01:


The catalytic converter doesn't directly affect fuel economy, what actually affects fuel economy is the 2 oxygen sensors, one located before it and the second on it.

Using my car as example, the first Oxygen sensor is called Air/fuel ration sensor. This is the most important sensor with regards to fuel economy regardless of whether the CAT is there or not. It's job is to measure the level of oxygen in the exhaust gases before the CAT. High oxygen means more fuel is required (lean) and low oxygen means too much fuel (rich). The normal oxygen called stoichiometric ratio is 14.7:1, that is 14.7 parts oxygen to 1 part fuel.

This sensor is responsible for maintaining this ratio and is called fuel trim.

The effect of disconnecting this sensor is called open loop, where the ECU supplies fuel based on standard set values which otherwise will be supplied by the Airfuel ratio sensor in a closed loop. This standard values ensures delivery of fuel enough for all situations, this is sometimes higher than required so the car consumes more fuel.

The second oxygen sensor (downstream) is responsible for checking the catalytic converter function and is used my the ECU to make fuel trims that will be efficient and minimize harmful emissions.
wow interesting.


How can one check if the oxygen sensors are working optimally ?

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:09am On May 28, 2022
franchasofficia:
How can one correct and turn off the lights for:


Traction off

VSC off


You cannot turn off the lights.

You can fix the problem, then the lights will go off.

Buy a scanner today
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by clinician2x: 8:11am On May 28, 2022
HazzanTazzan:


And no indirect effect on fuel consumption
You people sef ...

U go dey speak English but people who have had first hand experience tell you what they have seen and how they solved it by buying a new catalytic converter but you still come here to claim something else ...

I'm not surprised you did not understand what I wrote there. ASUU is on indefinite strike.

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by nedekid: 8:12am On May 28, 2022
The work of the cat is to remove dirty fumes. To enable you pass emissions test.
That is why when you stand behind a car with good cat, you perceive a nice aroma. You stand behind one without and your cloths will smell smoky.
Removing your cat, reduced the back pressure of gases comming from the engine. It's just like you smoke a ciger ette with with or without the filter.
You even get more housepower from the engine.
Finally, your engine last longer without the cat as it is under less strain.
My experience.
My cat got bad, got them to buy and fix new ones. Then 25-30k each. The car used 3. Omo, forget, they were all fake. I knew immediately they were installed, cause the exhaust smell did not change.
After 2 months they blocked, I removed them.
Omo, my moto get better milage, smoother drive, more power!
My dash is clean. No check engine light!
I have diven without cat for 3 years now.
If your cat is bad, rip it out! Watin concern naija and emissions?
If your car is over 180k miles, rip out that MF to enable you enjoy your sweet ride!

https://itstillruns.com/benefits-removing-catalytic-converters-cars-4899387.html

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by Cuteamigo1(m): 8:12am On May 28, 2022
Abroad it is mostly stolen because of the precious metals found in it. They sell it to recyclers who extract this precious metals. It's a global menace.
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by utepu: 8:12am On May 28, 2022
Removing Indomie does it increase fuel consumptions. Mine was just removed and I have checked fuel consumption before and after removal. No significant difference.
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by osazsky(m): 8:19am On May 28, 2022
Benz4pimp:
I once bought an Honda EOD,very clean and cheap,it was sounding like a sport car.would buy 4k fuel and it would finish within 2 days and I didn’t go far….they told me they had eaten the akara of the car.akara is the street name for catalyst…I bought another around 35k and it fuel consumption went back to normal…..panelbeater plenty for police station accused of stealing that stuff
u have been scamed.ur exhust get small leakage.3k for solve the issue.i dont have catalyst and my fuel consumption is ok...
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by LOVEGINO(m): 8:19am On May 28, 2022
gaby:
Okay...

Indomie bah?
u really dey street. U sabi am grin
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by fydence: 8:20am On May 28, 2022
ikevictor:


Lol...go buy fuel oga

Lol ..no funds on ground
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by nedekid: 8:20am On May 28, 2022
HazzanTazzan:


And no indirect effect on fuel consumption
You people sef ...

U go dey speak English but people who have had first hand experience tell you what they have seen and how they solved it by buying a new catalytic converter but you still come here to claim something else ...
Oga, my former v8 lexus car, when the cat went bad, I removed it. I got better milage, smoother engine Rev. Only draw back is the little extra noice which personally I liked.
My daily drive drive today, a Honda SUV, I have removed the 3 cats. Same thing, better milage, more hp. Smoother engine.
Cat is just for cleaner emissions. You cannot drive a car abroad without passing emmisions test. In naija who does such tests?
Infact I suggest if your car has high milage, take out your cat to get the engine serve you longer.

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Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by clinician2x: 8:22am On May 28, 2022
franchasofficia:
How can one turn off the following dashboard lights on a Lexus SUV:


Traction off

VSC off


Remove their bulbs.
Re: Does Catalytic Converter Actually Reduces Fuel Consumption? by adanny01(m): 8:22am On May 28, 2022
franchasofficia:
wow interesting.


How can one check if the oxygen sensors are working optimally ?

There are 2 cases with a bad oxygen sensor.

With a failed O2 sensor , the ECU goes to open loop and an error code is set which will bring on the check engine light. This is easy to diagnose.

A slow response O2 sensor is more difficult to know because it may not set an error code or check engine light and the ECU can remain on closed loop but the sensor is aged and not making fuel trim adjustment as required. It could lead to fuel consumption. Only a live scan and experience will be able to diagnose this.

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