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Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:20am On May 29, 2022 |
AntiChristian: The highlighted is exactly the Arabic translation with the exemption of just one word! "on him IS peace" Meaning the Peace of God is already with the Jewish prophets but as for Muhammad you're still PRAYING for him to receive the same kind of blessing. That's why you always pray for Muhammad during salat but don't need to pray for Jesus or any Jewish prophet because they have gotten the peace from God already as their inheritance! Hebrews 12:1 ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by AntiChristian: 5:48am On May 30, 2022 |
RoyalDiadems: We respect them because that's part of our faith in Islam not because of what was written about them. We believe in them all as Muslims. Not believing in what the Islamic text says about them is disbelief. Jesus was not killed as Islam said. Even if i were to ask you to tell us what happened leading to the crucifixion and resurrection you'll see the differences in the four gospels on the matter. Everything was just a hoax! Even the holy spirit wasn't able to guide them to write similar things. Even the way Judas died was contradictory from two of the gospels while the other two were silent. God is not a ritualist that needs human sacrifice to save His creations. He is all powerful and have no need to beget a son!
You telling me I contradict the Qu'ran is another proof you lack guidance and that the theory of the holy spirit among you Christians is false. The tradition in Islam is to call people by their name / father's name or their kunya such as Abu Abdullah meaning father of Abdullah, Mary daughter of Imran, Jesus son of Maryam. These are names. In this regard, Jesus was called , Jesus son Maryam, since he had no earthly father. Messiah is only a title specific for him. Why not tell us others who were called Messiah in your Bible? This was always the tradition then. Your Jesus has no power to save himself. Stop wasting your time. |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by AntiChristian: 6:29am On May 30, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: O! Is it on him be peace or on him is peace? Which one former Muslim? You just keep exposing your ignorance sir. Instead of you to be mute on what is beyond you! When did you become an Arabic instructor JW wing? When Prophets are mentioned we say Alayhi salaatu wasalam or alayhi salam. And the meanings has been given. They are all prayers of blessings and or peace. All your theories from Paul's/ unknown authored Hebrew are lies from the pit of hell. |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16am On May 30, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Agitation or fury doesn't change the fact that when the names of Israelite prophets are mentioned what you're taught to say differs from what you're to say at the mention of the name of Muhammad! Aren't all of them supposed to be prophets? So who is lying now? ![]() 1 Like
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Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by AntiChristian: 8:49am On May 30, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You are the liar sir! You first lied that the meaning of "Alayhi salam" was "on him is peace" Where as it is "on him be peace" which is a way of saying "Peace be on him" What about "Alayhi salaatu wasalam" being said for them? You have no comment on that. Another lies is that you claim we send blessings on the Prophet alone when we pray. But this is false in reality. The greeting of salaam is sent upon all the righteous slaves of Allah in heaven and on earth, as al-Bukhaari (831) and Muslim (402) narrated that Ibn Mas‘ood said: When we prayed behind the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), we used to say: Peace (salaam) be upon Allah, peace be upon So and so. The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said to us one day: “Allah is as-Salaam, so when one of you sits to pray, let him say: at-Tahiyyaatu Lillaahi wa’s-salawaatu wa’t-tayyibaat; as-salaamu ‘alayka ayyuha’n-nabiyyu wa rahmat-Allahi wa barakaatuhu; as-salaamu ‘alayna wa ‘ala ‘ibaad-illaah is-saaliheen (All compliments, prayers and good words are due to Allah; peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings; peace be upon us and upon the righteous slaves of Allah). For if you say that it will reach every righteous slave in the heavens and on earth. (Then say ![]() |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21am On May 30, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Now you're dodging the simple question! ![]() Are they all prophets of your God? If so why not say the same thing for all of them? Why change the phrase at the mention of Muhammad's name? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by AntiChristian: 9:50am On May 30, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Because Muhammad is the one sent to us. Jesus was not sent to me. Moses was not sent to me. But Muhammad was. And Allah specifically told us to send blessings on the last Prophet. And sending blessings of Allah to him has a lot of rewards. It was narrated that Abu Mas‘ood al-Ansaari said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) came to us when we were in the gathering of Sa’d ibn ‘Ubaadah, and Basheer ibn Sa‘eed said to him: Allah has commanded us to send blessings upon you, O Messenger of Allah; how should we send blessings upon you? The Messenger of Allah (S) remained silent until we wished that he had not asked him, then the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Say: Allahumma salli ‘ala Muhammadin wa ‘ala aali Muhammadin kama salayta ‘ala Ibraaheem, wa baarik ‘ala Muhammadin wa ‘ala aali Muhammadin kama baarakta ‘ala Ibraaheem fi’l-‘aalameen, innaka hameedun majeed (O Allah, send Your salaah (grace, honour and mercy) upon Muhammad and upon the family of Muhammad, as You sent Your salaah upon Ibraaheem, and send Your blessings upon Muhammad and the family of Muhammad, as You sent Your blessings upon Ibraaheem among the nations, You are indeed Praiseworthy, Most Glorious). And the salaam is as you know.” Narrated by Muslim (405). Read, be enlightened and stop your lies! |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:07am On May 30, 2022 |
AntiChristian: OK other prophets weren't sent to you expect the Arabian. Though it's controversial but now i understood you! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by AntiChristian: 2:26pm On May 30, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Next time don't bring such here! |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:48pm On May 30, 2022 |
AntiChristian: You and your parents may be OK with Arabian brainwashing but not everyone will swallow lies easily. Whatever makes you say anything for a prophet nothing should stop you from saying the same thing for others as long as he's just a prophet like others. It's just brainwashing! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by AntiChristian: 6:35am On Jun 01, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Do Christians treat Moses same way as they treat Jesus despite them claiming Jesus to be like Moses? And such ain't brainwashing! You have to keep telling lies to cover the previous lies. We pray for all of them. That's the truth! |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:23am On Jun 01, 2022 |
AntiChristian:Moses was the prophet the Israelites God used as mediator between Himself and Israel so no Christian has any business with Moses. Jesus CHRIST is the mediator between the God of Israel and the whole world that's why those who truly PRACTICE what CHRIST taught are called "CHRISTIANS" Act 11:26 compare to Act 1:8 So get your facts right, no prophet of God is called a (Muslim) in the Bible neither was there anything called ISLAM. If Moses and Muhammad came from the same nation it will make sense liken him to those prophets but your Muhammad is just like Guru Maharaji in Ìbàdàn who claims he's the perfect living master of our time. Know today that his followers are presently penning down scriptures about his deeds so when Guru Maharaji dies such a book will be taken to many places just as Arabs are doing for your Muhammad. The only way to know which religion is teaching the truth is not by emphasizing on a book written by humans like you and i because books may lie but God will not lie by presenting a group of imperfection humans like you and i practicing the religion of PEACE (SALAM) it's after SEEING the PEACE that reigns in the midst of true believers that your book could make sense {Matthew 5:14-16; 7:16-18} not when your religion failed to transform those reading your book yet you're crying that it's from God! ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by AntiChristian: 7:43am On Jun 01, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: As usual, much words less sense. You started from a translation lie. Was Christianity also mentioned in the Bible? God never ordained Christianity not Judaism as a religion in the Bible. And i don't think Jesus even ordained your Jehovah witness cult in the Bible. Except the Jesus that came back in 1914. Can you tell us how your Jesus came back? How he instituted your cult? And how was he crucified again? And no one even knows the name of the person(s) who gave you the name Christian. The person must have been a gentile. |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by RoyalDiadems: 7:29pm On Jun 01, 2022 |
AntiChristian: If you know your quoran well enough, you'll not be far from discovering the truth. If there had been no Christianity, there would have been no Islam. Islam was an invention to counter the salvation message that Jesus brought. Most of all you wrote up there are prove how ignorant you are. 1. You believe in a prophet merely because of what someone said about him, but you don't care about what such a prophet prophesied? Does that actually sound reasonable? 2. Islam cannot obliterate the truth of Jesus' death and resurrection because the evidence is here with us. Islam must first proclaim that no prophet prophesied about Jesus' death before it can deny the fulfilment of the prophecies. The fact that He was crucified and resurrected is corroborated by the four gospel writers who wrote independently about the event. Yeah eye witness accounts may vary in relation to details but that the actual event happened cannot be denied. 3. Yeah, you said the Messaih is a title of Jesus, but Mohammed said: When the angels said: “O Mary! Allah gives you the good news of a Word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary..." Surah 3:45 Mohammed said His name is Messaih. Your argument about this does not hold any water. 4. Jesus Himself told His disciples that He'll be crucified in Jerusalem ever before it happened. A disciple wanted to help Him escape arrest by fighting for Him but Jesus told him to abort such moves: "Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels? But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen this way?” Matt. 26:53-54 Even when Pilate the governor was boasting that he had power to release Him, Jesus told him He doesn't need his help. He told His disciples: "No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father.” John 10:18. Finally in John 18:13, He said: "Greater love has no one than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends." Now, tell me how it was that He couldn't save Himself. Jesus came simply to fulfil Prophecies in consummating God's eternal plan of salvation. |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by ifiokjohn(m): 11:15pm On Jun 01, 2022 |
AntiChristian:how could it have been Muhammad when Muhammad came 600 years later after the Disciples were dead.? Let me ask you a Question.. Who was helping the Disciples remember all Jesus said when Muhammad hadn't come? How did Muhammad comfort Jesus Disciples since he came 600, years after they were far dead? When you look at it critically without religion biased u will see it couldn't have been MUHAMMAD. Nigga came 600 years plus after Jesus promised to send the comforter. In that period, how was he helping nthe Disciples? 1 Like |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:12am On Jun 02, 2022 |
AntiChristian: [1] We walk by faith not by sight {2 Corin 5:7} so it's not what everyone sees that determines our faith rather it's what happens in line with God's purpose for salvation. God's purpose is for the entire inhabited earth to be united in Love, Joy and peace {Isai 2:2-4} so if any religion successfully gathered people in millions used a book known as scriptures to achieve that then they truly knows what they're saying! Matt 5:14-16; 7:16-18 [2] Jesus returned in 1914, noticed thousands of religion all claiming Abrahamic faith but none was prepared to make amendments in the mistakes they're making as they all failed to achieve the goal of Abrahamic faith except one group known back then as International Bible Students Association, so Jesus as a mighty spirit being began correcting their errors gradually until what we now know as "Jehovah's Witnesses" today! [3] Today anyone who can see all the fine WORKS Jesus is using God's Holy Spirit to do in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses has nailed him to the torture stake again. Think of any RELIGION that has successfully gathered millions throughout the earth and erased politics, military services and racism from their hearts like the JWs. If there's none then it simply means all other religions are on the broad road to destruction {Matthew 7:13-14} if you can't produce fine WORKS with God don't think your parents chose a religion that's of God! 2Corin 4:4 The name "CHRISTIANS" was borrowed from Antioch when the inhabitants of that city saw how Jesus' disciples were conducting themselves just as Jesus who was called CHRIST taught them {Act 1:8} but after the death of the pioneers of the group {Matt 13:25} time Satan polluted that group with evil and ambitious politicians and that's what all of you thought is CHRISTIANITY but God later sent Jesus back in 1914 to call faithful people out from all those false religions claiming Abrahamic {Reve 18:4} and after refining them God began calling His faithful worshipers by anyone group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isai 65:15 You've been asking these same set of questions for some time now and i've been telling you the answers using riddles but today i chose to be explicit with you not that i expected you to have a change of heart but for others following this thread to read and see the truth for themselves. I know you love your parents and they are nice people but that's not enough to justify that they are practicing pure worship, remember everyone also has nice parents who are found themselves in various forms of worship, but does that mean their religion is pure because they are nice? ![]() |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by AntiChristian: 5:40am On Jun 02, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: I don't follow my parents. I am convinced of my Deen. How will I leave Islam an start chasing the worship of Jesus of 1914? It's absurd! So how many times will your Jesus come again? The last time he said he would send the comforter but he still had to come in 1914 which means the comforter wasn't scoring well just as the 12 disciples he first chose! How do you believe such lies? |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:22am On Jun 02, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Note that whatever you and i read in the pages of books shouldn't render our brains DEAD rather it supposed to enhance our sense of reasoning, that's what makes it Godly not just claims! ![]() So back to your questions: [1] Both Islam and Jesus of 1914 were stories to you and i, we never witnessed any of the two happened. So intelligent people will not stick to how far but how well. If Islam is 20,000,000,000 years old but JWs is just less than 200 years, any right thinking person will go for which is yielding positive results in the human society not that which is older! ![]() [2] Even if Jesus has to come a hundred times what matters to me is the improvement in the way those who truly appreciate his teachings are able to cohabit peacefully within their gathering not how many times Jesus came. So i'm less concerned with stories rather i want to see fine WORKS as in results! James 2:18-26 ![]() [3] The comforter Jesus sent was to help his followers to be bold amidst deadly oppositions and establish pure worship as he taught them. John 16:12-13 compare to Act 1:8 He also prophesied that Satan will soon plant evildoers in their midst to pollute pure worship {Matt 13:25} but angels won't support killing of any kind in the midst of his disciples, that's why true Christianity differs from false religions where bloodshed is encouraged to keep them in their preferred order! Matt 13:29 [4] LIES can never ever yield positive results in Sacred matters rather it's only the truth that can produce fine fruit! Matthew 7:16-18 ![]() 1 Like |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by ifiokjohn(m): 8:38am On Jun 02, 2022 |
@AntiChristian I'm still awaiting your answer oh. If Muhammad was the one the Disciples were expecting. How come he came 600 years after they were dead? Who was comforting the Disciples in the period Muhammad hadn't come? How did Muhammad help the Disciples remember all Jesus said when he died 600 years before they came?...who was he then helping to remember? When u answr this truthfully and critically you will know it couldn't have been ur dear Prophet 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by cornelboy(f): 6:58pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
ifiokjohn:Feel you bro 1 Like |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by ifiokjohn(m): 7:07pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
cornelboy:bless you bro. Na so I dey with some of them for one WhatsApp group.. Christian Muslims debate group and I dey finish them. U can give me your number so I can add you up 1 Like |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by cornelboy(f): 7:28pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
ifiokjohn:Lol I'm in a WhatsApp group with two Muslims, they've stopped responding. dj450701@gmail.com pls kindly mail me on that Gmail address. I'll reply with my number. |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by ifiokjohn(m): 8:02pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
cornelboy:Ok have sent you an email |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by cornelboy(f): 8:57pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
ifiokjohn:I didn't see it. I don't want to put my no here. Pls send it again. |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by cornelboy(f): 9:07pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
ifiokjohn:I have mailed you the number. I saw it at spam folder. |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by ifiokjohn(m): 9:27pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
cornelboy:ok have seen them and have told them to add u up ...they will soon. Me no be admin there na them be admin. But pls while there we have to be civil and respectful You have been added to the group bro |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by cornelboy(f): 9:29pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
ifiokjohn:Yeah I know what to do thanks. 1 Like |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:28am On Jun 03, 2022 |
Lawag3: Subhanallah! This is false. Injeel is what was revealed to Jesus that he preached during his lifetime. Where is that now? The New Testament was allegedly authoured by Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and mainly Paul. Injeel was revealed to Jesus not authored by individuals. It's not a biography of Jesus. |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by 2dominate: 8:44am On Jun 03, 2022 |
AntiChristian:I don't agree to 3,5 and 6. |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by AntiChristian: 9:18am On Jun 03, 2022 |
2dominate: Yeah! Muslims agree to it. |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by Lawag3: 9:21am On Jun 03, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv: The words/preachings of Jesus was written down by those disciples.mohammed held the bible when he told Christians to judge by the injil. 2 Likes |
Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by Emusan(m): 9:56am On Jun 03, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv: And you can't provide the truth Injeel is what was revealed to Jesus that he preached during his lifetime. Where is that now? Imagine, it him who supposed to provide the Injeel or you who have the Injeel with Allah? Besides, Injeel means Gospel and Gospel means GOOD NEWS So what is the Good News Allah gave to Jesus all about ![]() The New Testament was allegedly authoured by Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and mainly Paul. Despite being ALLEGEDLY authored by different writers, none of them could talk about the said INJEEL Jesus hide before he went to heaven. Definitely no book Jesus pen down by Himself apart from Hebrew books known to the desciples which all of them reference. Injeel was revealed to Jesus not authored by individuals. So where is the Injeel today? It's not a biography of Jesus. So where can one find biography of Jesus Christ? |
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