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Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by Sarsaproko: 8:10pm On Jun 02, 2022
Obidient1:
Is true but I won't forgive Tinubu for bringing a Calamity President to our Land

Exactly...
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by owenwin: 8:10pm On Jun 02, 2022
How is this the problem Nigeria is facing

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Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by OsusuBishop(m): 8:11pm On Jun 02, 2022
gifteddion:
So after asking Buhari to contest for d 2015 election what else did u do after that it is well on Records that Rt. Hon Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi single handedly Funded Buhari Campaign, the Tinubu Private jet that was used for campaign in 2015 who was paying for Gas used for the jet it was Amaechi, who paid for the Chatham house in UK it was Amaechi, u only ask Buhari for a merger while in other to woo Amaechi into APC, Amaechi condition to join APC is for Buhari to be d APC candidate, Buhari picked Amaechi as his VP but Tinubu walked out at Eko Hotel in other for Peace to reign Amaechi forfeit the VP slot for Tinubu to choose his candidate of which party agreed that Amaechi will take over from Buhari in 2023 of which Buhari, Tinubu, chief John Oyegun( then APC chairman), Pa Bisi Akande & Ogbonaya Onu all Signed to it at PH government house. Why TINUBU hated Amaechi since 2014 was because after AMAECHI forfeited the VP slot for Tinubu to nominate instead Tinubu Nominated himself(Tinubu) Amaechi and EL-Rufai kicked against it, after Amaechi threatened to hands off from funds it was then Tinubu nominated Osinbajo. Till date Tinubu Hated Amaechi because of that since 2014. Just because we all kept quiet doesn't mean we dont know what happen in 2014, TINUBU Stop praising urself cos u brought nothing during the campaign in 2015 election, Tinubu is a Founding Father of APC BUT AMAECHI SINGLE HANDEDLY FUNDED BUHARI CAMPAIGN AND FUNDED APC to VICTORY.

This is deep.... So, Rivers State resources were used to bring this disaster upon us.

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Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by Reference(m): 8:11pm On Jun 02, 2022
abbey621:


One must be careful as well, too much distancing and he could be seen as trying to sabotage the government and he could have been arrested for forming a shadow government. Remember Tinubu was very close to Abiola, he knows how wicked these people can be hence he wouldn't want to jeopardize things until all other avenues have been exhausted.

Not saying going around speaking 'against' the government but being neutral at the least and certainly not defending their actions as he did all the time particularly on touchy issues, ....then especially on human rights issues like ENDSARS, etc, and then offering alternate solutions on things like the badly run economy which I feel he has better ideas than what the present government offers.

Look at his contemporaries that forged the APC from other power blocs. They had quietly and tactically faded from the scene in recent years but with their political capital relatively intact and folks like Kwankwaso are even in a position now to 'shake the power tree'.

I remain convinced he hung around too long and is presently suffering from political 'see finish' syndrome. Such that if he somehow manages to scale through, he will have made so many deals and made so many concessions it will just be a government by proxy....
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by Enumerator(m): 8:11pm On Jun 02, 2022
cheesy
Beremx:
So because you think you made Buhari President, he should reciprocate? You never see anything. I pray you survive the shock which awaits you
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by CoolAmbience(m): 8:12pm On Jun 02, 2022
IjawRep:
On that one Tinubu is very correct.

Tinubu ACN

Buhari CPC

And the ANPP

Merged to form APC so as to defeat Goodluck

Buhari already lost three times before then and as they merged, Tinubu helped him.


A belong to ACN

P belong to ANPP

And C belong to CPC


It becomes APC.


Did Tinubu help Buhari to become president. The answer is a resounding yes.

Was he the only one who helped Buhari become president. The answer is a big no. I also did. Nigerians, in all parts of the country, did.

Amaechi did. Tambuwal did. Oyegun did. Rochas did. Akande did. Oshiomhole did. TY Danjuma did. Saraki did. Onu did. Fashola did. Wammako did. Obasanjo even did too, by his public rejection of Jonathan and the PDP.

It was not just Tinubu alone that did it. He must not feel so entitled to the position. He won't be president, and that is final.

One singular fact that people never mention is that Buhari helped himself become president more than anyone else. He did it thrice before 2015. He built massive momentum and cult-like followership, especially in the North, over a period of over a decade, before the merger happened.

One could also say, without an iota of doubt, that without a candidate like Buhari, APC would not have been able to dislodge the PDP in 2015. Buhari helped Tinubu emerge from being a regional player into a major national political figure.

Buhari had presided over Nigeria before 2015. He was Head of State in 1984. He was not just an obscure, opportunist politician that Tinubu gave a helping hand.

So, someone should tell Tinubu to stop this childishness. His wife is a Senator on APC ticket; his cousin, Oyetola, is Osun governor on APC ticket; his political godsons are vice president, Works & Housing minister and Speaker on the APC ticket. The entire Lagos and APC in the Southwest have been practically left under Tinubu's control.

Buhari delivered the multi billion naira Lagos-Ibadan Expressway in the Southwest. He also delivered the Lagos-Ibadan Railway. Apapa-Oshodi-Oworonshoki Highway has been completed, among several other projects in the Southwest.

Nobody will surrender Nigeria's presidency to anyone on account of cheap emotions.

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Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by Temptee101(m): 8:13pm On Jun 02, 2022
IjawRep:
On that one Tinubu is very correct.

Tinubu ACN

Buhari CPC

And the ANPP

Merged to form APC so as to defeat Goodluck

Buhari already lost three times before then and as they merged, Tinubu helped him.


A belong to ACN

P belong to ANPP

And C belong to CPC


It becomes APC.

So you think buhari would have won without nPDP and Apga?
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by horgarzer(m): 8:14pm On Jun 02, 2022
God1000:
He talks too much
He talks too much like your father. He need to talk sense into some of you people whose sense of reasoning has been clouded with sentiments and unwarranted hatred.
We all know that what he's saying is the truth.
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by garfield1: 8:15pm On Jun 02, 2022
fergie001:

....but won't change his decision, would it?.
Somebody in Spain and you want to jolt him, I hear?

Who in Lagos APC will say this thing and be given a ticket. Decision has been made and everyone will have to queue behind it.

Afterall, Ambode held a press conference too so it's understandable

No decision has been made,no name mentioned.Sunday is at hand
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by jnig: 8:15pm On Jun 02, 2022
Hehehe... Galllant Jagaba! But wait o, without Buhari, you go hear am in 2022 not 2023
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by saggyboy01: 8:15pm On Jun 02, 2022
Honestly speaking Bola Ahmed Tinubu is getting frustrated....God is not an hypocrite

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Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by akinade28(f): 8:15pm On Jun 02, 2022
Philipponzaghi:
City Boy, the Jagaban!

He worked hard for other people in the past 15 years, fighting hard to place them at the top. He already picked his form for senatorial ticket in 2007 but had to step down for someone else because he said they might take Lagos and that spells doom for the AC in retaining the SouthWest.

He is not selfish, he helped Vice President, Senators, governors, Speakers, and etc to get to the top, WHY can't they just reciprocate just this ONE TIME?

Let's even agree they won't reciprocate, why then go about lying about who helped you like the VP have been doing? That is treachery!

We are not saying Buhari should support Asiwaju, BUT at least allow for a fair primaries where the delegates will vote their conscience; That request is not too much from someone that helped you achieve your dream after failing 3 times.


Yes, he did all these things you listed, bravo. But, is the presidential seat a reward for political labour?
Nigeria clearly needs a president that is capable physically and mentally, to get her out her current mess. We should not all suffer another life support president just because of someone's selfish lifelong ambition.

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Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by Henrygetpaid: 8:16pm On Jun 02, 2022
Man's proud of himself..he a waah achiever..hate him or nuh him knows wah him fi sure doing a him sounds smart too..

So you are proud you brought the failure to power
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by LARRYOBRAIN(m): 8:17pm On Jun 02, 2022
Truth, na Asiwaju spoil Atiku game.
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by surequality: 8:18pm On Jun 02, 2022
I rebuke the spirit of If not me if not me in the name of Jesus!
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by alaira(m): 8:18pm On Jun 02, 2022
Indispensable85:
Sometimes you just have to remind the betrayers where they're coming from.
we shall see the outcome.
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by Nobody: 8:18pm On Jun 02, 2022
SATANICALLY666:


https://dailytrust.com/breaking-without-me-buhari-would-have-lost-in-2015-says-tinubu


Baba shouldn't have said this. No more stupid permutations.
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by AkpaMgbor(m): 8:20pm On Jun 02, 2022
teadrake:

That's because he meant what he said which is absolute truth. You and I know without God and Tinubu, Buhari wouldn't have been President.
Mater of fact, many governors in the southwest emerged as a result of Tinubu support and influence.
Ask Messrs Kayode Fayemi, Rauf, Oyetola et al.
What are we now saying
You lie!! You bloody lie!! If ANYONE can claim to have made Buhari win it should be amaechi. He was the one who first went to daura and met Buhari with his wife. Telling him that he was going to help him become president. This was immediately after his fallout with GEJ and his wife. He was also the major financier of the campaign. Do you think we have short memory or what??
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by Bhol28: 8:21pm On Jun 02, 2022
Hate him or love him,what he is saying is a known fact,he stood by many, though that is not the main criteria for becoming the president.The game will be played on 6th and we'll discover who is the master.

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Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by MultiDot: 8:21pm On Jun 02, 2022
Tifunubu stop lying, you never made Buhari President in 2015, it was a collaborative effort of the nPDP, ACN, CPC, NNPP and the Rocha's Okorocha's APGA that did the magic then. Wake up from this your forlorn dream land. You can't be Nigeria's President not now or for ever.
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by darediamond(m): 8:21pm On Jun 02, 2022
SATANICALLY666:


https://dailytrust.com/breaking-without-me-buhari-would-have-lost-in-2015-says-tinubu
A POLITICAL JOBBER UN PA ARIWOOO TOOOO!!!

Oshibanjo betrayed you abi?

What of the Elders Who Brought You Forward That You BETRAYED WITHOUT CAUTION BACK THEN TINUBU?

C what goes around shall come around.

Does Fulani Cares?

"Where Are The Cows?"
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by ensamy(m): 8:22pm On Jun 02, 2022
Tinubu wants a pay back but unfortunately the music has changed the dancers, so it's a lost course and lost Presidential ambition. He should go and retire.
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by Lugard89: 8:22pm On Jun 02, 2022
Which means ur the architect of our problem, it shall not be well with you

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Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by firstworld: 8:23pm On Jun 02, 2022
Did your demi god give Ambode a fair chance?It's payback time. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.
Philipponzaghi:


No shock anywhere.

What we want is a fair primaries, if they win us, we will go back home to Lagos.

—When Buhari lost multiple times and failed, who did he look up to for help? Jagaban

Jagaban need him to reciprocate the effort now, we are not saying Buhari must support Jagaban but at least allow fair primaries and let the party delegates decide their man.

If Buhari cannot do that simple thing, then he is a big BETRAYER!

Asiwaju should rise up, he is a lion, he is Jagaban and a fighter, he fought OBJ and won, he fought the machinery of the PDP through the court and election ground; He should rise up and live up to the hype; We need his leadership and we need him to roar like the LION OF BOURDILLON!
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by Temptee101(m): 8:24pm On Jun 02, 2022
Dhama5000:
Tinubu is still the greatest nationalist of this present Nigeria, nobody is perfect but I pray that he will reap the fruit of his labour.

Channel that prayer to yourself because you need it the most

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Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by josite: 8:24pm On Jun 02, 2022
Obviously TINUBU will not be given the ticket and this speech shows he already knows buhari doesn't want him.but I see dapo abiodum being the scape goat.


Dapo has not been wise in his too early hasty endorsement of osinbajo.

TINUBU is baring fangs and he will certainly rock the boat .

Apc will give ticket to osinbajo but the gang up against APC will.be insurmountable and someone else apart from osinbajo will emerge president.


Tunde bakare may be the next president.
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by silibaba: 8:25pm On Jun 02, 2022
God1000:
He talks too much
Am seeing another arrogant MKO
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by Antivirus92(m): 8:25pm On Jun 02, 2022
emmykk:



Tinubu started AD,Ac And ACN nor of his candidate as president won from olu felae,Ribadu and Atiku nor won in those years.

Why Buhari won is simple yes he support him as he used to do with their regional party but buhari won because it was over due,how?

Then obj just finished 8years , a southern,then yardua did 2 years and died,then Goodluck took over by completing yardua term a southern,then went for 4 years of his.

He was defeated because if he had won north would have only rule 2 years of 20years and if Goodluck had listen to Obj to feature jigawa state governor then buhari would not have be president.


So stop telling lies that it was Tinubu who made buhari to win, buhari was favourable just as Atiku is favored now
who favoured atiku now?
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by abbey621(m): 8:25pm On Jun 02, 2022
Reference:


Not saying going around speaking 'against' the government but being neutral at the least and certainly not defending their actions as he did all the time particularly on touchy issues, ....then especially on human rights issues like ENDSARS, etc, and then offering alternate solutions on things like the badly run economy which I feel he has better ideas than what the present government offers.

Look at his contemporaries that forged the APC from other power blocs. They had quietly and tactically faded from the scene in recent years but with their political capital relatively intact and folks like Kwankwaso are even in a position now to 'shake the power tree'.

I remain convinced he hung around too long and is presently suffering from political 'see finish' syndrome. Such that if he somehow manages to scale through, he will have made so many deals and made so many concessions it will just be a government by proxy....

He did stay neutral especially with ENDSARS, he did not condemn protesters and at the same time did not condemn the government. In fact he stayed silent for well over 2 weeks. Unless I'm mistaken, a Kwankaso does not have the same political pull as Tinubu hence I would say his tactics still worked. The major decision now is whether to scatter everything or let the snake Osibanjo chop since it is still a win for a Southerner.
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by ensamy(m): 8:25pm On Jun 02, 2022
SamCeci:



Baba shouldn't have said this. No more stupid permutations.
He Tinubu sounds desperate now. He knows the game plan has changed against him, Buhari no longer cares.
Re: Tinubu: Without Me, Buhari Would Have Lost In 2015 by zedegit: 8:25pm On Jun 02, 2022
SATANICALLY666:


https://dailytrust.com/breaking-without-me-buhari-would-have-lost-in-2015-says-tinubu

It's too early to wail.

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