OLEADTIPS:
Op need to read more objective texts about Jesus not some conspiracy theories.

crows2ravens:


See I'm not one of those Christians who got all their information from pastors and the Bible only.
So please, assume I'm well versed in church history and canonisation of the holy books.

Maynman:


You haven’t read a bit. It is glaring in your ignorance.
Why are you lying?
Just like Muslim taqqiya, you are lying to protect your god.

crows2ravens:


I refuse to take that as insult because I don't think that's your intention. I know you're taunting me to talk, but I won't, since I know it won't help you.

Maynman:


Taqqiya just like Muslims. Lying to defend your deity.

crows2ravens:

How can I defend God? That's impossible! He is wise and powerful more than enough to defend Himself. In His own will, He will prove Himself to you, and when that happens, please come back to share. I will be praying for you, too.
Peace.

odysey:
dropem as e dey hot

Bleepbleep:
This is my first post on Nairaland since I officially became a member on 2nd of June 2021. And today I also made my first comment on a topic ever. I am an open minded person who talks less with a rather open mind.

I'll employ readers to read through with an open mind. This article was brought about by personal researches I made and I'll happily profer answers to whatever questions you all have. We are here to learn!�

My main focus today is going to be on the popular book. *The Holy Bible*

The Bible is actually a collection of writings from a ancient texts on tablets aging Tens of thousands of years, Including 80% of Jesus (Yeshua's) teachings. All from ancient books that were not of Christian origin at all.
Christianity, and the bible is barely 5,000 years old. But the Bible in itself was sources and copied from ancient texts on tablets written by non christians.

Example of these ancient textt which dates way older than the Bible.. as old as 30, 40 and even 50 thousand years are listed below.
EGYPTIAN HYROGLYPS-
EGYPTIAN BOOK OF THE DEAD~ Proverbs, teachings of Moses and even the Ten Commandments was picked out from the numerous commandments from the book of the dead.
HAMMURABI ~ ancient Babylonian texts
ENUMA-ELISH~ seven tablets of creation from the Sumerian cuneiform texts.
TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD~ from where part of the book of Proverbs was copied
THE ATRAHASIS
BHAGAVAD-GITA ~ Deuteronomy
MAHABHARATA
BOOK OF ENOCH _ Which wasn't added to the canonized bible and was left out because about Aliens , flesh and blood people who came from another planet who were more advanced technologically and spiritually teaching men how to make weapon and the art of war. The book of Enoch talked told about how Enoch was consistently taking in a vehicle and flown out of earth into space giving detailed description of the earth from outer space.

The Bible itself wasmt written in real times or written by some Holy-Ghost filled men.
Infact the Disciples were illiterates who couldn't read or write. Those records were written thousands of years after these people died. They were written and copied into tabs, scrolls, parchment papers and stored in vases which was actually collected by acient Phenosians. These scholars were collecting these ancient writings and tablets from caves and ancient cities were they were kept and recopying them into collections.

However some of this tabs were broken incomplete and some pieces missing so it was left for these copiers to chip in some info as much as they could understand it.

The Old Testament wasn't talking about God ad in the creator of the Universe. As it was written in the original acient text. It was only edited , mistranslated and purposely written in a way to paint a picture of a single Universal God by the people who collated the Bible.

Facts and researches shows that there are lots of mistranslation and purposely edited texts in the Bible , written to drive a particular purpose. As on the Old testament so it is in the New testament.

THE NEW TESTAMENT which talked majorly about Jesus (originally called Yeshua) as the son of God and a holy and perfect man was written in the ancient records to be a student and follower of Toth.

Everytime Jesus spoke in the New testament, his words actually comes from the EMERALD TABLET OF TOTH. This tablets is said to be 36,000 years old. Way older than Jesus himself.

So this brings to mind the question.. why would Jesus's teachings be so similar to that of Toth ( THE ATLATEAN PRIEST KING WHO RULED OVER THE LAND OF KEM FOR 14,000 YEARS AROUND 56,000 BC-before christ)

In THE GOSPEL OF THE HOLY TWELVE, Which is also missing from the Holy Bible, it was written that at Jesus went to Egypt. Yes, that is why the story of Jesus dissapeared from the Bible at age 12 came back later on. During this time He went to Egypt to study Egyptian Mysteries. Yes human civilization started from Africa. Don't be decieved .. infact researches shows that human civilization started form the Africa in Egypt and Aliens from outer space first made contact with people at the middle bet regions of the planet.. we will talk about that later on..
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The first Egyptyian mystery school thought Kemetic Mystery. So Yeshua's Aka Jesus went to the land of Kem in Today's Egypt to learn the teachings of Toth. Which are in the Emerald Tablets of Toth Discovered by archeologists to be more than 30,000 years old having it's origin from the Egyptian Mystery schools. In which we there are exact teachings of Jesus christ written in them.

Currently there is a tourist centre in Cairo Egypt which is now a shrine and is said to be where Jesus lived.

kollinskollins:
The Jesus you know will define who you are.
The Jesus I know, is The GOD MAN, who is not higher or lower than GOD, but the anointed one who took away the Sin of the world & now sitting at the right hand of GOD(seat of authority).

crows2ravens:

How can I defend God? That's impossible! He is wise and powerful more than enough to defend Himself. In His own will, He will prove Himself to you, and when that happens, please come back to share. I will be praying for you, too.
If you be so bold, please challenge Yahweh Elohim to prove Himself to you.
Peace.

Maynman:


Why did you have to lie then that you’ve read history on Christianity. Is that the new tactics?
When all your utterances clearly shows you haven’t?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism

crows2ravens:

Now I laugh. Do you know why academics don't accept Wikipedia? Because it is not subject to intellectual peer reviews.
I'd stop responding to you now.

crows2ravens:

It won't change your point of view since you've made up my mind already. It's not history or origins that'd make you change it, but the Holy Ghost himself when He ministers to you.

crows2ravens:

Certainly yes.
But Jesus did not come to create a new religion, He came to create a new way of life, spirituality and truthfulness.

Samuelkirk:
My question is that why una no dey attack Islam ,na only Christianity you guys dey masturbate to. Oga go sleep jare go find work

Bleepbleep:


took away the sisns of the world? I have a simple question for you? Why will an almighty god require a man to die as a sacrificial lamb so as to forgive the sins of the world

does this make sence at all? Does this story not looks like one of those snago myhts? Bro nobody died for your sins, nobody died so that you can continue to sin and ask for forgiveness. The original meaning of the word Repent is to LOOK WITHIN AND SEE BEYOUND THE MIND i.e looking inwards and becoming spiritual. God wouldn't ask you to go through anyman to reach him. He works with us directly. It is for you to look within and train yourself. Religion presents men and temples. But spirituality is a personal thing that links you directly to the source.

Bleepbleep:


On point. The real teachings of Jesus .never talked about hell. Be was an Esoteric teacher not a religious one. What we have today is a mixup and handiwork of man. Not God

RAZOR619:
you are a fool.

Abovebest:
The OP just came up with so many assumptions and emotional blackmail

crows2ravens:
Please ask, we all will learn from it.

odysey:
can you do a more detailed summary of Aliens, earth from space that Enoch spoke about?

Bleepbleep:


Assumptions you say? What assumptions are there in what you can clearly read yourself.?

How the old testament god was brutal and wicked? How a god struck down a man who was trying to support the ark of god from falling to the ground and was immediately struck to death? How he sent thunder storm and brimstones to destroy cities? Because they were not "his people" ? Which means we can carry guns and sword tomorrow and go attack traditionalists because they idolators??

And how the new testament God was a peace loving one.

Tomorrow one church will say.. OH WE SERVE A GOD THAT NEVER CHANGE.. really?

Those alein beings ruled with fear and terror. As the population grew and certain humans decided not to be bothered or controlled by fear of the sword and arrows., They came up with the greatest emotional blackmail.. HELL AND HEAVEN so now, there is no escape, even if you say you ain't scared of death, you now have the afterlife HELL to worry about where you burn for eternity. Lol...

Isn't this one of the greatest means to drive fear and control??

crows2ravens:


A dead sacrifice works once, after that you need another one for future sins, so you must keep repeating it as often as possible, just like Job did.
But a living sacrifice works forever. For past, present and future sins. Jesus is a living sacrifice, ordained by God.
Why do you love your child specially? Because you see part of yourself in him or her.
When we do holy communion, we "eat is body and drink his blood", so God sees part of Himself in us, and we obtain His love and mercy.

Bleepbleep:
Africans it is time to grow up!.

Though white people brought us Christianity, but my ongoing research shows that they're completely rational with it. In below interview, a retired priest opens up on the truth about Christianity.

You good African Christians, watch this two minutes video and you'll understand just how stupid we could be in Africa.

His words ''Religion is meant for control. It's a mind control business.

Hell is to scare you to submission. I never believed in hell.

God is not a member of any religion.

The church don't like people to grow up. People should ignore it and grow up.

God cannot be found in a book. The bible is simply man's estimation of God''.

Read that bible and quran, grab the message of empathy, kindness, humility, kindness, honesty, and throw the book away. If you die in religion, you die with a lie.

Save yourselves, come out of religion, don't die in the lie!!.

Catholic priest opens up on the truth about christianity

subsidywise18:
LOL...I am not taking OP's writeup serious.

1.Toth the Atlantean king.

Toth is first and foremost the name of an EGYPTIAN GOD, and Atlantis is supposed to be Greek at best. Plus Plato, the ancient Greek philosopher, who was the first to mention Atlantis specifically said it was fiction.

As far as we know, Atlantis was a myth. Never existed, never happened. Searches for the place have turned up empty.(Some people theorise that a volcanic explosion in the neighborhood of Crete which supposedly wrecked the Minoan civilisation is the sauce of many tales of Atlantis)

2.Egyptian Hieroglyphics are just basically a system of writing/ how the ancient Egyptians wrote their language. Not a 'source of ancient knowledge, or a source for the bible.' It is like me saying that the source of my maths textbook is Arabic writing.

3.There is no proof that Proverbs, the ten commandments came from the Egyptian book of the dead...which is as different from the bible as orange is different from yam.

4.Hammurabi....well, he was a king in ancient Babylon, he did write down one of the earliest legal systems, there is some argument as to whether his writeup influenced the Decalouge, but the argument is inconclusive. Plus, Hammurabi was a polytheist, not a monotheist anyways.

5Enumaelish..maybe some truth, but then again, creation myths have similarites across all tribes and races.

6.Tibetan book of the dead..has no relationship to the bible. Proverbs did not come from the book of the dead.

7Bhagvad Gita and deuteronomy....lol. Someone is making me have a good laugh. Besides Deuteronomy came before the Gita.

8.Book of Enoch does not mention aliens...no more than book of Ezikiel mentions spaceships. Plus, most people did not know of aliens, including the people compliling the canon.

9.No, the disciples were not illiterates. Matthew was a tax collector, which requires some form of literacy. Nathaniel, another of Jesus' followers was introduced reading the Torah, which indicates literacy. Paul was clearly literate. And even if they were, there were early followers of Jesus who could read and write (Luke who wrote the Gospel of Luke and Acts was a doctor, and could read and write.)

Also, many Jewish men of the time had to know how to read their scriptures.(Infact ability to know the Tanakh is commanded in the Tanakh itself...) So...they learned to read and write. Jesus is a good example.

OP is just talking jargon.

Bleepbleep:


Conspiracy theories you call it? I gave sources, I listed out ancient records that were first hand recorded by indigenous people who had a first hand naration to these things where your supposed bible stories were handpicked from and you still term it as conspiracy theories?

subsidywise18:


I didn't take you serious when you said

1.Toth, an Egyptian god, was a king in Atlantis (a fictional kingdom). Atlantis is only taken seriously by conspiracists and UFO hunters....not serious scholars.

2.Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics was a source of the bible(nonsense). Egyptian hieroglyphics are a writing system used to write Ancient Egyptian, just as there is a writing system for Greek, Latin , Arabic, and Chinese, and even English.

3.The Tibetan book of the dead , Egyptian book of the dead, and so forth have no relation to the bible. The Bhagvad Gita was complied long after Deuteronomy, and even has no relation to it.

4.The disciples were not illiterates...especially as they were Jews , whose law required them to know how to read their scripture. Plus Matthew was a tax collector, Nathaniel was introduced in the NT reading the Tanakh, Phillip was seen reading the Tanakh with the Ethopian in Acts, and also was approached by Greeks wanting to meet Jesus (which indicates some literacy in Greek as well as Hebrew and Aramaic), and even Jesus himself on returning to Nazareth entered the Synagogue, and read the Scriptures. Even Judas Iscariot was the treasurer of the twelve, which requires some numeracy and literacy skills. Peter demonstrated some familiarity with scripture in Acts, which indicates some literacy.

5.There is no link between the Emerald tablet of Toth and the teachings of Jesus...plus it is dated to the 8th century CE...long after the canon of the New testament was set, and long after any late dates for the gospels. And it is completely different from the gospels.

Most of what you wrote is typical conspiracy theory yazoo. Or assumptions that cannot be proven. (except the Enuma elish bit.)

Bleepbleep:



I'll simply advice you do more thorough research. Now you are telling me Mathew wrote the book of Matthew himself? They never kept personal diaries. Those records were made after they were long dead. So are other books like Easter and Ezra etc.

TOTH was deified by various civilizations. Just as Jesus in the bible is Yeshua somewhere else and is Isa an ordinar prophet somewhere else.
Thorough research and investigation is beginning to point out that Atlantis once existed. Modern scientist are beginning to see reasons to it. To ancient civilizations who were much more advanced technologically, spiritually and scientifically.. everywhere , mostly in the middlebelt regions. Discoveries that up till date can not be reverse-engineered.
Tens of thousand years old. That are still wonders to the present day generations. Esoteric healing techniques that is proven today to be scientifically real and genuine.

Bro there is more to history than we know.

Drop your email and I'll send pdfs to you. And if only you'd take your time and make researches on these acient records and see for yourself that these things were handpicked. Extracted from. Not copied in whole. They only extract parts that they felt made sence to drive their agendas. And it wasnt done one day, it was sources all over indegenious traditional records.

I never said the HYROGLYPS was a book or singular text. Perhaps you have to re-read. Egyptian HYROGLYPS is a form of ancient writing ..so is the Sumerian CUNEIFORM.

The way you keep saying there is no proof to this and that baffles me.

Bleepbleep:


Conspiracy theories you call it? I gave sources, I listed out ancient records that were first hand recorded by indigenous people who had a first hand naration to these things where your supposed bible stories were handpicked from and you still term it as conspiracy theories?

DeusMagnus:
There's something I really want to understand. When you guys say religion is a scam, do you include our own traditional religion as well or is it just Christianity and Islam and Buddhism and the rest popular religions.

Bleepbleep oteneaaron