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afrodoc2:


We spent 1 month negotiating with Benfica for Darwin Nunez before he went to Liverpool. Was this BEFORE or AFTER ETH assessed the players.

We have been linked to Timber for over a month now. Was this BEFORE or AFTER assessment?

We have been linked to Antony according to reports as well. Was this BEFORE or AFTER assessment?

If you are saying we have not made any transfer moves because he is yet to assess the players how come we have been negotiation for a number of players already?

And you haven't answered the main question. This assessment, is it going to be in training, or preseason, or competitive matches?

All what we know is based on reports we read as none of us work at Old Trafford. I am only responding based on what is reported by the press and shared here...

afrodoc2:
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Assess the players during training or during preseason games or during competitive games? Which one?

And who reported this? And what is the veracity of this report?

Lol.

I don’t know what’s there to assess again.

Players he went to watch their last performance lojukoroju at Selhurst Park o.

Pep sanctioned John Stones like months before he was officially announced as coach.

Assess FC

patrickmuf:
All what we know is based on reports we read as none of us work at Old Trafford. I am only responding based on what is reported by the press and shared here...

So you have no idea but hazarding a guess.

Can you make this to make sense:

1) The club has not bought any players because they are waiting for ETH to finish his assessment.

2) But the club has been negotiating for at least 3 players (FDJ, Timber, Nunez) for at least 1 month now.

These 2 statements can't both be true. It is either the club is not active cos they are waiting for ETH to complete his assessment OR they are negotiating for these players.

And this assessment, is it in pre-season, friendlies, or competitive games?

We have a thirty something year old CR7 as our only striker and are yet to make any concrete move for a striker.

We only have Fred and McTomiwa as midfielders.

We’ve lost 4 first team players.


Yet, we’re yet to make any concrete move in the TW.

How you people dont think anything is wrong is funny.

Access Bank FC

Leyqute:


Lol.

I don’t know what’s there to assess again.

Players he went to watch their last performance lojukoroju at Selhurst Park o.

Pep sanctioned John Stones like months before he was officially announced as coach.

Assess FC

I am actually interested in this assessment issue. Will he wait until they start training at the end of the month before he assesses them thereby wasting 1 month of the transfer window? Or will he wait to see how they perform in pre-season games in July, thereby wasting 6 weeks of the window.
Maybe he won't buy anybody at all this window and wants to assess them during the EPL season and then submit his list in January for the winter transfer window.

afrodoc2:


So you have no idea but hazarding a guess.

Can you make this to make sense:

1) The club has not bought any players because they are waiting for ETH to finish his assessment.

2) But the club has been negotiating for at least 3 players (FDJ, Timber, Nunez) for at least 1 month now.

These 2 statements can't both be true. It is either the club is not active cos they are waiting for ETH to complete his assessment OR they are negotiating for these players.

And this assessment, is it in pre-season, friendlies, or competitive games?

It was reported that ETH wants to assess the players in our books before making a decision on their future...The future of most of our current players depends on his assessment which in turn affects our transfer activity...Or you think not? Whatever means he wants to use to assess the players is not really my business...

It was also reported that we have submitted an offer for FDJ...I don't think we made a bid for Nunez, I think we enquired and it was clear he wanted a team in the UCL, as for Timber, nothing concrete...One can understand easily that FDJ was requested by ETH to replace Pogba and the Nunez enquiry was necessary as we didn't know if Ronaldo will stay or leave. Timber? Nothing concrete for now...

You believe that we are making moves based on REPORTS even when only that of FDJ has been followed up with a bid but you don't want to believe the other REPORTS where ETH was quoted as saying he needs to assess the players first before making a decision on whether or not he'll work with them...

If you don't think that is enough reasons for us to be moving slowly, I can only say I respect your opinion...

patrickmuf:
It was reported that ETH wants to assess the players in our books before making a decision on their future...The future of most of our current players depends on his assessment which in turn affects our transfer activity...Or you think not? Whatever means he wants to use to assess the players is not really my business...

It was also reported that we have submitted an offer for FDJ...I don't think we made a bid for Nunez, I think we enquired and it was clear he wanted a team in the UCL, as for Timber, nothing concrete...One can understand easily that FDJ was requested by ETH to replace Pogba and the Nunez enquiry was necessary as we didn't know if Ronaldo will stay or leave. Timber? Nothing concrete for now...

You believe that we are making moves based on REPORTS even when only that of FDJ has been followed up with a bid but you don't want to believe the other REPORTS where ETH was quoted as saying he needs to assess the players first before making a decision on whether or not he'll work with them...

If you don't think that is enough reasons for us to be moving slowly, I can only say I respect your opinion...

I think if you look at the club's recent history with transfers, it seems quite consistent with what is happening now. So its hard to say this is happening because its what ETH wants.

patrickmuf:
It was reported that ETH wants to assess the players in our books before making a decision on their future...The future of most of our current players depends on his assessment which in turn affects our transfer activity...Or you think not? Whatever means he wants to use to assess the players is not really my business...

It was also reported that we have submitted an offer for FDJ...I don't think we made a bid for Nunez, I think we enquired and it was clear he wanted a team in the UCL, as for Timber, nothing concrete...One can understand easily that FDJ was requested by ETH to replace Pogba and the Nunez enquiry was necessary as we didn't know if Ronaldo will stay or leave. Timber? Nothing concrete for now...

You believe that we are making moves based on REPORTS even when only that of FDJ has been followed up with a bid but you don't want to believe the other REPORTS where ETH was quoted as saying he needs to assess the players first before making a decision on whether or not he'll work with them...

If you don't think that is enough reasons for us to be moving slowly, I can only say I respect your opinion...

The same can be said for you. You chose to believe one set of reports but chose to ignore the other set. Even when Fabrizio Romano and other tier one transfer journalists said we have been in talks with Timber for instance you are saying nothing concrete. To each his own but i don't like the assessment lamba that people have been peddling.

The excuse is already laid out. If we don't buy players on time it is because ETH did not submit list. Because ETH was here when we chased Sancho for over 2 years.

The Glazers should be called the Otumba Lamba family. Their propaganda game is real strong.

Leyqute:
McTomiwa is not a first team player.
McTomiwa is not a first team player.
McTomiwa is not a first team player.

I take exception to the usage of Tomiwa please no spoil my name

afrodoc2:


We spent 1 month negotiating with Benfica for Darwin Nunez before he went to Liverpool. Was this BEFORE or AFTER ETH assessed the players.

We have been linked to Timber for over a month now. Was this BEFORE or AFTER assessment?

We have been linked to Antony according to reports as well. Was this BEFORE or AFTER assessment?

If you are saying we have not made any transfer moves because he is yet to assess the players how come we have been in negotiations for a number of players already?

And you haven't answered the main question. This assessment, is it going to be in training, or preseason, or competitive matches?

Continuous Assessment test na him e be, both physically and spiritually

MRTA7:


I think if you look at the club's recent history with transfers, it seems quite consistent with what is happening now. So its hard to say this is happening because its what ETH wants.

ETH made us chase Sancho for 2 years before completing the deal. Or 2-3 years ago during the Ole list or no list debate it was ETH that did not assess the players on time. And 4-5 years ago when JM was lamenting like an end time prophet about the slow pace of transfers ETH was the one that refused to complete assessment on time.

MRTA7:


I think if you look at the club's recent history with transfers, it seems quite consistent with what is happening now. So its hard to say this is happening because its what ETH wants.

Well, recent history tells me that every new manager is supported to get in his players...

It was even Doc that drew our attention to the fact that the board only spends when we fail to qualify for the UCL, a position that Nitro.gen refused to accept in their numerous arguments here...

We finished 5th and have a new coach so, if Doc was right then it is only normal to look at other reasons that we be slowing down our movement in the market...

patrickmuf:
It's been reported that the coach wants to assess the players before taking any decision on who stays or go...

For now, we can conclude that our slow activity in the market is down to ETH since he hasn't had time to assess the players.

The one player he has asked, work is in progress to get him abi una want make we throw money around then later una go turn back blame the board for being incompetent...We are not in the UCL, it will take more time for us to convince players to join or alternatively, we have to pay more which is a NO for most of us here...

Access which players? While the available players are being bought left, right, center.

The way this thing is starting looks like something that'll end funny. All these Ajax players we're being linked to lmao. This is not the fvcking dutch league.

We can't leave recruitment to him. This is what I've been shouting about from the beginning! People said I was shouting because of Rangnick. Ten Hag has never being the main guy in the recruitments of players. They give him different choices and he picks one.

But I'm seeing Dejong, Athony, Timber. Who next? The only None Ajax player I can say we were truly going to sign was Nunez. And he's gone to Liverpool.

afrodoc2:


The same can be said for you. You chose to believe one set of reports but chose to ignore the other set. Even when Fabrizio Romano and other tier one transfer journalists said we have been in talks with Timber for instance you are saying nothing concrete. To each his own but i don't like the assessment lamba that people have been peddling.

The excuse is already laid out. If we don't buy players on time it is because ETH did not submit list. Because ETH was here when we chased Sancho for over 2 years.

The Glazers should be called the Otumba Lamba family. Their propaganda game is real strong.

But you claimed that the board only spends when we fail to make the UCL and when a new coach arrives...What has changed?

afrodoc2:


I am actually interested in this assessment issue. Will he wait until they start training at the end of the month before he assesses them thereby wasting 1 month of the transfer window? Or will he wait to see how they perform in pre-season games in July, thereby wasting 6 weeks of the window.
Maybe he won't buy anybody at all this window and wants to assess them during the EPL season and then submit his list in January for the winter transfer window.

We all know the assessment thing is just an excuse to protect the ineptitude of the glazers’ appointments.

And it’s very funny.

ChristoBam:

Access which players? While the available players are being bought left, right, center.

The way this thing is starting looks like something that'll end funny. All these Ajax players we're being linked to lmao. This is not the fvcking dutch league.

We can't leave recruitment to him. This is what I've been shouting about from the beginning! People said it's because of Rangnick. Ten Hag has never being the main guy in the recruitments of players. They give him different choices and he picks one.

But I'm seeing Dejong, Athony, Timber. Who next? The only None Ajax player I can say we were truly going to sign was Nunez. And he's gone to Liverpool.

Sorry, I don't have the contact of ETH...

patrickmuf:
Sorry, I don't have the contact of ETH...

Are you not a Nigerian?

afrodoc2:


ETH made us chase Sancho for 2 years before completing the deal. Or 2-3 years ago during the Ole list or no list debate it was ETH that did not assess the players on time. And 4-5 years ago when JM was lamenting like an end time prophet about the slow pace of transfers ETH was the one that refused to complete assessment on time.

If any serious club were in for Sancho, we wouldn’t have gotten him.

Same with Bruno.

Tottenham made a U-turn. That’s why we were able to sign him. If not, they’d have renewed Perreira’s contract and branded him as a new player.

No List FC

ChristoBam:

Are you not a Nigerian?

So?

patrickmuf:
So?

There's no way you thought I was literally asking you to list name of the players.

patrickmuf:
But you claimed that the board only spends when we fail to make the UCL and when a new coach arrives...What has changed?

Wanting to spend money and efficiency of negotiations are 2 different things. I am talking about their speed (or lack of it) in negotiations, and their lack of expertise. We will drag and drag and drag like happened with AWB, Sancho, Maguire and still end up paying what the other club wanted.

ChristoBam:

There's no way you thought I was literally asking you to list name of the players.

You sounded as if you didn't read the reports where he was quoted as saying this same players finished 2nd 2 seasons ago in a move that saw him stand at odds with the position of Rangnick...

If ETH who held out for control of everything football as far as the first team is concerned during contract negotiations is of the position that the players are not as bad as our position made them look, preferring to assess the players himself, who am I to question him?

patrickmuf:
You sounded as if you didn't read the reports where he was quoted as saying this same players finished 2nd 2 seasons ago in a move that saw him stand at odds with the position of Rangnick...

If ETH who held out for control of everything football as far as the first team is concerned during contract negotiations is of the position that the players are not as bad as our position made them look, preferring to assess the players himself, who am I to question him?

It'll only make him out as the naive guy I feared he could be if he took this kind of job.

Thinking the market will wait for you while you calmly access the players in few weeks time. Meanwhile the players that should be first targets are going to direct rivals. Same direct rivals we're trying to catch up with.

afrodoc2:


Wanting to spend money and efficiency of negotiations are 2 different things. I am talking about their speed (or lack of it) in negotiations, and their lack of expertise. We will drag and drag and drag like happened with AWB, Sancho, Maguire and still end up paying what the other club wanted.

Someone clearly explained here that FDJ is at his boyhood club, one that is in the UCL and with a better chance to win trophies compared to ours hence the difficulty is convincing him to join us thereby opting for UEL football...Also,there's a case of agreeing a deal with Barcelona who rightly see him as one of their prized assets (They got him for £65m)...It is always going to take time.

afrodoc2:


Wanting to spend money and efficiency of negotiations are 2 different things. I am talking about their speed (or lack of it) in negotiations, and their lack of expertise. We will drag and drag and drag like happened with AWB, Sancho, Maguire and still end up paying what the other club wanted.

I get now...However, I'll wait to see how we handle other less complex deals...

patrickmuf:
Someone clearly explained here that FDJ is at his boyhood club, one that is in the UCL and with a better chance to win trophies compared to ours hence the difficulty is convincing him to join us thereby opting for UEL football...Also,there's a case of agreeing a deal with Barcelona who rightly see him as one of their prized assets (They got him for £65m)...It is always going to take time.

It shouldn't for real. 2 weeks is enough for this. If you can't convince him in a week, then he can fvck off. As for negotiations with Barca,it shouldn't take too long. Total price should be set asap and the structure of the payment should be the thing being argued.

Neves is the club's second choice target, what happens when Chelsea suddenly goes in for him. We'll then use the same UCL excuse again?

patrickmuf:
Someone clearly explained here that FDJ is at his boyhood club, one that is in the UCL and with a better chance to win trophies compared to ours hence the difficulty is convincing him to join us thereby opting for UEL football...Also,there's a case of agreeing a deal with Barcelona who rightly see him as one of their prized assets (They got him for £65m)...It is always going to take time.

And other targets? Are we going to be doing 1 target every 1-2 months?

Timber too is at his boyhood club. Will that one also take another 2 months to complete?

We are seeing what we have seen for the last decade before ETH became manager and you guys are placing the blame on ETH already.

Do you remember the debate here a few years ago when people claimed Ole did not make a transfer list and this was why we were slow in the window? We are just seeing a variant of it. That time it was Ole that did not make his list on time, this time it is ETH that has not completed his assessment on time.
People then even said Ole's list was a 1 man list of Sancho, and now you guys seem to be suggesting that ETH's list is a 1 man list of de Jong.

ChristoBam:

It shouldn't for real. 2 weeks is enough for this. If you can't convince him in a week, then he can fvck off. As for negotiations with Barca,it shouldn't take too long. Total price should be set asap and the structure of the payment should be the thing being argued.

Neves is the club's second choice target, what happens when Chelsea suddenly goes in for him. We'll then use the same UCL excuse again?

Maybe ETH is insisting that we get him...

afrodoc2:


And other targets? Are we going to be doing 1 target every 1-2 months?

Timber too is at his boyhood club. Will that one also take another 2 months to complete?

We are seeing what we have seen for the last decade before ETH became manager and you guys are placing the blame on ETH already.

Do you remember the debate here a few years ago when people claimed Ole did not make a transfer list and this was why we were slow in the window? We are just seeing a variant of it. That time it was Ole that did not make his list on time, this time it is ETH that has not completed his list on time.
People then even said Ole's list was a 1 man list of Sancho, and now you guys seem to be suggesting that ETH's list is a 1 man list of de Jong.

I believe it's FDJ he wants regardless of other players in the market...I might be wrong though but then, FDJ is perfect for the kind of football he plays...

Why do I even feel Barca and Dejong are delaying as long as possible till they get other offers from other clubs. If PSG or City goes in for him today, then we'll be left barefaced.

patrickmuf:
I believe it's FDJ he wants regardless of other players in the market...I might be wrong though but then, FDJ is perfect for the kind of football he plays...

Other targets IN OTHER POSITIONS.

At this pace when will we buy the other players needed. Or is it that ETH has still not submitted a list, just like Ole?