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OkCornel:
You’re missing the entire point.
Did the Jews consider Yeshua Ben Yosef as someone who existed at some point in their history? Yes or No

That’s the crux of the matter.

A simple poll from Jewish Rabbis would put this needless back and forth to bed.

Maynmann:
Was it before the Septuagint was written?

OkCornel:
Enough of the rigmarole.

Maynmann

Let’s take a sample of responses from Jewish Rabbis to confirm if Jesus existed or not…shall we?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism%27s_view_of_Jesus#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20specific%20doctrinal,issue%20in%20traditional%20Jewish%20thought.

LordReed, is this another “things fall apart” scenario?

OkCornel:
Most likely yes.

I’m referring to the Testimonium Flavanium.

LordReed:
And the point is that this piece of writing is not expressing actual history whether or not they thought the person was real. The back and forth only exists because you refuse to see the simple point before your very eyes. A satirical work even if based on a real person is not a historical document.

Maynmann:
Testimonium flavinus was written before the oldest New Testament?
Wow

OkCornel:
Again, he deflects.

Address the works of Josephus Flavius. Or the Jewish scholars who believe in the existence of Jesus.

Awaiting your next deflection strategy.

LordReed:
And you think I am arguing against a historical Jesus? If that is your thought then glad to tell you you are wrong.

Maynmann:
Stop lying

OkCornel:
Again he deflects.

He has no answers to Josephus Flavius, Judah Halevi, Maimonides, Jacob Emden and other numerous Jewish scholars.

Argue with Jewish scholars who know their history. Case closed

OkCornel:
Maynmann, are these Jewish scholars - Maimonides and Judah Halevi wrong to conclude Jesus existed? Or Jacob Emden? Or Moses Mendelssohn?

OkCornel:
Sir, are they discussing about someone who really existed? That has been my focus from the get go. I don’t care if it’s satire or a comic book.

Is the character in question a real person? Or a fictitious one.

Maynmann:
Send me the link, what are you hiding?

OkCornel:
Is it too hard for you to Google search them?

You no get excuse abeg.

Maynmann:
Why did you lie.
If they are not older than the oldest New Testament then you are desperate.

OkCornel:
I’m basically clarifying my stance from the get go…which you somehow misunderstood

OkCornel:
Another lame excuse to escape from the posers from Josephus’ works and other Jewish scholars.

You no get point. Unless you know the history of the Jews better than the Jews themselves.

Mr woke

Maynmann:
And is it too hard to copy and paste a link but you can post pictures??
Just post the link, no straightforward atall.

OkCornel:
Google search the names, you will find loads of links to hearts delight.

You don’t have any reasonable excuse.

Maynmann:
Why did you hurriedly lie to justify a claim?

Why so desperate, you’ll do anything

OkCornel:
Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Prove the Jewish historians and scholars wrong on the existence of Jesus and stop grasping at straws.

OkCornel:
Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Prove the Jewish historians and scholars wrong on the existence of Jesus and stop grasping at straws.

OkCornel:
Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Prove the Jewish historians and scholars wrong on the existence of Jesus and stop grasping at straws.

LordReed:
But OkCornel is like someone who thinks Things Fall Apart is a historical biography.

LordReed:
Really? Where has budaatum said such a thing?

LordReed:
It is you who misunderstood. I was pointing out the problem with the text you said was a Jewish rabbinic work which literally has no academic support, which is tantamount to you presenting a fictional comic book as proof of a real person. Perhaps you thought I was attacking the historicity of Jesus.

Maynmann:
And budaatum thinks people end up in sky after death.

Maynmann:
Stop lying

Maynmann:
Heaven means sky.

budaatum:
To me it doesn't, Mayn. When I look up at the sky I do not see any heaven. Is it my eyes perhaps?

Maynmann:
Liar, liar liar,lying so shamelessly
Prove they said it exist with fact.

What are you hiding?