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Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by OkCornel(m): 8:17am On Jun 13, 2022 |
HedwigesMaduro: Another angle 1 Like |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by OkCornel(m): 8:18am On Jun 13, 2022 |
Image123: Brilliant contribution. |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:41am On Jun 13, 2022 |
Jesus of Nazareth would only live and die in the pages of a book just like Harry Potter if we can't point to his achievements. All the elements used in making things like electricity, radio, television, telephones, cars, aeroplanes, computers and many more are there on this planet before some humans discovered how to make use of it to manufacture these things, but after they've achieved those things their names were written not just on marbles but in the hearts of all users of their discoveries. So what has Jesus discovered that we can point to as evidence of the fact that he once walked this planet? Well humans are as old as this planet and the way we relate has always been the same: few influential ones dominating the majority and using weapons to forcefully imposed their opinion on them. This is how the human society has been from time immemorial. But the Bible foretold a time when people from different races throughout the earth will come together to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally and obediently submissive to the same line of thought {John 17:20-23} without the threat of weapons! Isaiah 2:2-4 This is what Jesus achieved with his teachings today as millions across the globe willingly subjected themselves to the teachings of Jesus and living by the rules without anyone threatening them with weapons to become submissive to the rules! If we can't see this within our society today {Act 1:8} then forget about Jesus of Nazareth he must be just a fictional character! 1 Like |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by immaculatesense(m): 12:32pm On Jun 13, 2022 |
musicwriter:Dear musicwriter I love people like you so much...people who don't want to be force to believe in wat they are not convinced or people who just agree with the popular things going on...I salute ur courage...and it seems u av learnt a lot and also have a lot to offer...now i believe u still av alot of research to make to proof the falsehood of the man Jesus but in ur research methodology it seems ur also believe in the word of a professor who was not an eye witness who lived around two thousand years ago...u av not also shown a man or woman who lived in Jerusalem around 2000 years ago who said Jesus never existed during his time. Secondly,u condemn d account of look because he was not an eye witness...on that...my dad was not old enough to know his father,his father died in a strange land and nobody could locate his corpse...I and my siblings never knew ur grandfather,no pictures...just his name and story about his job and a bit about his life...my fear is that if my children come of age and ask me about my grandfather or any proof of my grandfather...how do I convince them...I don't av a proof,not a picture,am not an eye witness and never seen him before...so,if I can't proof it does that mean he does not exist because he did not live in my time or contemporary time? Please ur answer will help me to convince my children when they come to age... Thank u 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:18pm On Jun 13, 2022 |
MICHIGAS has gotten himself a ban! Wait for the next 24 hours before typing your stupid lengthy nonsense! 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by OkCornel(m): 4:42am On Jun 14, 2022 |
This is one of the few threads I’m impressed with on this platform. Shows we can have a healthy intellectual discussion whether you are for or against the topic. It’s an opportunity for everyone to learn, unlearn and grow. No need to be overly emotional just because you want to defend your position/beliefs. The truth will always vindicate itself. Selah… 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by budaatum: 1:57pm On Jun 14, 2022 |
musicwriter: One must ask if we do speak English because "our ancestors were enslaved with Jesus", or the English, to be more precise. Do you speak English because your ancestors were enslaved by the English, Musicwriter? If so, why don't we, if we can and should, emancipate ourselves and speak our own languages if we could, and what would be the consequences if we did? P.s. These are mostly for personal exercise and do not necessarily require a response. Would love to hear what anyone thinks though, I mean, why are we enslaved to the English language? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:06am On Jun 16, 2022 |
In the beginning God created just a pair of humans automatically both of them must have spoken the same language with all their descendants {Genesis 11:1} but God confused their language and several languages sufficed {Genesis 11:7-9} and ever since then mankind can't communicate easily without having to learn the language of the neighbouring tribe. 2Kings 18:26 Today most languages are not widely spoken or accepted because a language become valued due to the commercial strength of the tribe or nation speaking it. For instance, let me use Yorùbá language as a case study. Most Western Nigerians don't know that they're not Yorùbás because their ancestors were dominated by the Yorùbás under the Ọ̀yọ́ empire and they were forced to learn the language of their colonial masters. Only the Yorùbás had kings ruling over them the other tribes live in small communities and villages so it's family heads and most elderly in their community that always set standards for them until the Ọ̀yọ́ people (the real Yorùbás) began demanding taxes from them that all these tribes started coming together to form larger communities, install Kings and rebelling against the Ọ̀yọ́ empire. So when the Whitemen arrived they discovered that the widely spoken tongue in the west that everyone could understand is the Yorùbá language, they called the Western Nigerians "Yorùbá speaking people" But in reality there are countless languages in the west like Ànàgó, Ẹ̀gbá, Ìjẹ̀ṣà, Òndó, Èkìtì, Àkókó, Ọ̀wọ̀, Ìjẹ̀bú, Ifọ́n-òmìmà, Ìkálẹ̀, Ìlàjẹ and many others that when they speak even the one claiming Yorùbá man can't understand what they're saying! So slavery has always been associated with widespread languages even before the English man came with his own language! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by LordReed(m): 8:23am On Jun 16, 2022 |
OkCornel: We don't rely only on writings for ancient characters nor did I suggest such. |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by OkCornel(m): 8:26am On Jun 16, 2022 |
LordReed: Wasn’t implying you suggested it. Just my thoughts on the evaluation process generally. What are the other sources of evidence considered for existence of ancient characters? |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by LordReed(m): 8:40am On Jun 16, 2022 |
OkCornel: Archaeological artifacts. |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by OkCornel(m): 9:01am On Jun 16, 2022 |
LordReed: Considered that too. Well, until the ones related to certain ancient personalities are uncovered, one might conclude they don’t exist (in the absence of other evidences available). Another constraint. Anyways, not to deviate from the initial point I was making as to why Jesus’ existence is more debated compared to more ancient personalities like Bhudda etc (not implying you’re responsible for this) |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:58am On Jun 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:
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Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by budaatum: 2:14pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Sorry Max, but you know buda does not subscribe to this mythology which the facts do not support. |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by Maynman: 2:27pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
Bwahahahah |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by KnownUnknown: 2:37pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
budaatum: That’s because you haven’t heard The Truth my dear Prophet Buda. The heavens were a multiplicity of unity before the generation of the gods. After the generation of the gods, divine beings gathered above the 7 hills of the Pleiades and deliberated and decided. In the beginning, Zeus created 7 pairs of woman and man……. 1 Like |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:40pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
budaatum: Did i mentioned you? Please i'm sorry ma, it was a blunder! I'll go and edit it immediately! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by Maynman: 2:48pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: In the mythology, The father of Zeus is cronus. Where did you get the bolded? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by budaatum: 2:56pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Now I've heard you tell me "the truth", I still don't accept it as "the truth" because it does not agree with the evidence I have found in my own research done with my very own senses. Sorry. Perhaps if you provide some evidence for your claim I might find it is the truth, but barring that, Houston, we have a problem, as they say. |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by KnownUnknown: 2:58pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
Maynman: I was traveling in the plains trodden by the Apache when I saw the vision of the sublime. I beheld the revelation, I beheld the gods I marveled at the clary of the Light 1 Like |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by Maynman: 3:01pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
KnownUnknown:“In the beginning zeus created” bwahahahah Zeus was not even there in the beginning. The father of Cronus is Uranus, you are welcome. |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by KnownUnknown: 3:19pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
Maynman: What’s so funny?!! How do you know Zeus wasn’t in the beginning? Where you there? Have you beheld the revelation. Have you beheld the gods? You arrogantly assert the ancestry of Zeus as if you have beheld the gods or have seen the vision of the sacred Pleiades. |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by Maynman: 3:27pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: It’s a Greek mythology. You ignorantly believe he was real? Bwahahahah. You “beheld or behead” the revelation and saw zeus? Probably a white man with white beards , bwahahahah |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by KnownUnknown: 3:59pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
Maynman: Your bumptious ignorance is amusing. What I speak of is not myth. It is not allegory. It is The Truth. I have beheld the revelation. I have seen the seed of the woman crushing the head of the serpent. Jupiter Pluvius, the great Zeus stoked the fire of reason in my mind and I saw the True Light. Your puerile and vain imaginations limits you to the “white man with white beards”. Nay, those are the ignorant musings of men like you. I communed with the divine. I dined with the gods. I sat on the throne of Cepheus And the Divine called me King Unless you have gazed down at Gaia from one of the 12 mansions, you have no seat at this table nor can you speak of Zeus. |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by Maynman: 4:01pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Seems you enjoy the hesiod characters. Bwahahahah You beheld a revelation and saw Hesiod created characters Jupiter is a Roman god different from Greek mythology, calm down and don’t rush to type. Do you enjoy Masashi Kishimoto characters too? Your blatant ignorance is shameful.
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Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by KnownUnknown: 4:25pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
Maynman: Before the time of the fathers of Hesiod, the world was illumined by Izdubar but your ignorance won't let you see through the Greek veil. The Greeks learned at the feet of the Giants but you present babe in the woods, Hesiod, as your source. Of what need is a source when you have beheld the revelation? Yakasaki characters are more akin to gods if you want to bring levity to the topic. Behold the Water Bearer cometh The Age of Man will bear many fruits Believe the serpent and take your fill Til' then Care for the land and till The above is what Betulah told yours truly as she followed Kiniwun. |
Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by Maynman: 4:26pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Hesiod is a poet. Izdubar is a created character. Are you normally this dumb? Yakasaki created characters, Naruto and sasuke are more akin to gods? This is beyond retardation
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Re: How I Realized Jesus Is A Fraud by Electrochemistry(m): 4:33pm On Jun 16, 2022 |
When gospel is almost universal this one is still authenticating the historicity of Jesus Christ. You're just one of the heathens. Repent before it's too late for you. |
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