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MadarasBlade:
When you mean job, do you mean remote or a tech company here in naija?

Naija but for like 2 months before my first remote job.

tensazangetsu20:
Naija but for like 2 months before my first remote job.

like how much was your first pay?

specialofficer:
like how much was your first pay?

100k

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Hannania:
Let me give you a very fast track. There's a company Called Microverse(Microverse.org). It's a company based in USA.

They train you for 7 months, then you use 3 months to look for a remote job. You pay them 15% of your income after your start making $1000. Some of their graduates make $30,000 because the stack they use is fullstack Ruby(HTML, CSS, JavaScript, React, Ruby and it's framework Ruby and Rails).

They have a one month pre-course, so don't worry if you're a beginner.

The training is on the concept of pair programming, so you'll work with students from all around the world.

If you register now, and get accepted let's say in August, by May next year you're at least a 500k earner.

That's the most practical advice from me, because it's structured, and you're learning with a goal to get a job.


Note: Ruby and rails is a sought after stack in US and Australia, so there's no much competition for developing countries developers.


This advice is just for Software Development.
Other fields of Tech like Product Design, Graphic design, just get a good Udemy course and stick to it for six months while connecting with a community.

All what I mentioned needs dedication. So if you're intentional, by this time next year, you'd smile.

Good luck.

Are you on the training or you're done?

Hannania:
Let me give you a very fast track. There's a company Called Microverse(Microverse.org). It's a company based in USA.

They train you for 7 months, then you use 3 months to look for a remote job. You pay them 15% of your income after your start making $1000. Some of their graduates make $30,000 because the stack they use is fullstack Ruby(HTML, CSS, JavaScript, React, Ruby and it's framework Ruby and Rails).

They have a one month pre-course, so don't worry if you're a beginner.

The training is on the concept of pair programming, so you'll work with students from all around the world.

If you register now, and get accepted let's say in August, by May next year you're at least a 500k earner.

That's the most practical advice from me, because it's structured, and you're learning with a goal to get a job.


Note: Ruby and rails is a sought after stack in US and Australia, so there's no much competition for developing countries developers.


This advice is just for Software Development.
Other fields of Tech like Product Design, Graphic design, just get a good Udemy course and stick to it for six months while connecting with a community.

All what I mentioned needs dedication. So if you're intentional, by this time next year, you'd smile.

Good luck.

Good day sir..
I got to know about Microverse from an online research but need someone to put me through the application. I have knowledge in html,css and JavaScript now and was able to complete the first stage of 44 questions and currently on the coding Challenge with hackerrank. Can you be of help??

Devynecheeh:
Good day sir..
I got to know about Microverse from an online research but need someone to put me through the application. I have knowledge in html,css and JavaScript now and was able to complete the first stage of 44 questions and currently on the coding Challenge with hackerrank. Can you be of help??

Hello, congrats on your progress. Unfortunately, I used my personal mail for Nairaland, and it seems you can't change it. That's why I've not answered a lot of DMs lately.

Don't be scared, after the coding challenge, you'd be paired with three students from around the world, to solve Freecodecamp's 3 out of 5 projects under-responsive Web design.

They'll test your Github collaboration skills, over four hours each, your internet and English speaking. You both will rate each other, then they'll decide from what your peers rate you.

After that, you'd have an asynchronous interview, with pre-recorded videos, where you answer basic questions, 2 minutes each. Then an acceptance interview if you scale.

Hannania:
Hello, congrats on your progress. Unfortunately, I used my personal mail for Nairaland, and it seems you can't change it. That's why I've not answered a lot of DMs lately.

Don't be scared, after the coding challenge, you'd be paired with three students from around the world, to solve Freecodecamp's 3 out of 5 projects under-responsive Web design.

They'll test your Github collaboration skills, over four hours each, your internet and English speaking. You both will rate each other, then they'll decide from what your peers rate you.

After that, you'd have an asynchronous interview, with pre-recorded videos, where you answer basic questions, 2 minutes each. Then an acceptance interview if you scale.

What's the best pathway into data science according to your understanding?

Qinglong:
Thank you for this post... My dad with 20+ years of experience in journalism is earning lower than my older brother, who has been a graphic designer for just a couple of years and he's not even doing remote work yet. He started with my dad's old laptop back then.

I don't think we should discourage anyone cause you don't know their circumstances. There's nothing wrong with going into a profession for the money, provided you have the appropriate mindset to succeed and the willingness to put in the hard work. If you discourage them now and they don't make it in another line of work, they'd start regretting that they didn't try to get into tech (or any other line of work they were initially interested in) because of what internet people told them. It's true that success is never guaranteed, but whether it ends in success or failure, let everyone be responsible for themselves. Especially in this country where things are so tough and no improvement in sight.

Just today, in an office where I'm doing my service, a worker there was talking to this girl and told us that some of his colleagues in university are hitting it big now cause they seriously invested in various sides of tech back then. He didn't do so because he was more invested in the conventional education pricess. Meanwhile, they haven't paid him a few months' salary as of today and he's barely getting along. He's really regretting it now. Like the head of their department actually gathered us corpers and advised us to learn in-demand online skills because there's no jobs in Nigeria today. She also revealed to us that one of her sons is in Europe today because of this remote work thing (I don't know what skill he learned though).

Although I have a 2:1 in Accounting and planning to write ICAN after my service next year, I'm seriously thinking about learning this as well because of the state of our country, although definitely still going to learn Excel and QuickBooks for my course this year when I get a laptop. Me personally, I looked into a few online skills back in 2019/20 on the advice of my older brother (graphics, video editing, and programming). Programming was the only one I actually bothered downloading several videos on, but I eventually stopped because of no laptop.

I didn't even know about this apparent high pay thing for programmers back then, just until April this year. I don't know what will work out for me but I just don't want to put all my eggs in one basket in this country, lol. Whatever case, good luck to all of us.

I sent you pm, mak we relate abeg

adeotiabdulaziz:
I sent you pm, mak we relate abeg

Saw this, but confused on how to reply. Wetin you wan talk about tho?

Qinglong:
Saw this, but confused on how to reply. Wetin you wan talk about tho?

programming

adeotiabdulaziz:
programming

Oh, okay but I'm still just in the "interested" phase and I don't have a laptop yet. So, yeah.

Qinglong:
Oh, okay but I'm still just in the "interested" phase and I don't have a laptop yet. So, yeah.

no probs this is my number 08148465247

adeotiabdulaziz:
no probs this is my number 08148465247

Hmm, okay o. For WhatsApp?

LikeAking:
Its too late. Sorry!

please too late, how?

bros u need to enter inside restuarant before you ask for menu. when you get the menu, then you can order your favourite. tech is so wide, nobody knows which area you will do best, only you. but as per nigeria we dey so , whether is saturated or not, enter web development. From there, you can then switch .

Qinglong:
Thank you for this post... My dad with 20+ years of experience in journalism is earning lower than my older brother, who has been a graphic designer for just a couple of years and he's not even doing remote work yet. He started with my dad's old laptop back then.

I don't think we should discourage anyone cause you don't know their circumstances. There's nothing wrong with going into a profession for the money, provided you have the appropriate mindset to succeed and the willingness to put in the hard work. If you discourage them now and they don't make it in another line of work, they'd start regretting that they didn't try to get into tech (or any other line of work they were initially interested in) because of what internet people told them. It's true that success is never guaranteed, but whether it ends in success or failure, let everyone be responsible for themselves. Especially in this country where things are so tough and no improvement in sight.

Just today, in an office where I'm doing my service, a worker there was talking to this girl and told us that some of his colleagues in university are hitting it big now cause they seriously invested in various sides of tech back then. He didn't do so because he was more invested in the conventional education pricess. Meanwhile, they haven't paid him a few months' salary as of today and he's barely getting along. He's really regretting it now. Like the head of their department actually gathered us corpers and advised us to learn in-demand online skills because there's no jobs in Nigeria today. She also revealed to us that one of her sons is in Europe today because of this remote work thing (I don't know what skill he learned though).

Although I have a 2:1 in Accounting and planning to write ICAN after my service next year, I'm seriously thinking about learning this as well because of the state of our country, although definitely still going to learn Excel and QuickBooks for my course this year when I get a laptop. Me personally, I looked into a few online skills back in 2019/20 on the advice of my older brother (graphics, video editing, and programming). Programming was the only one I actually bothered downloading several videos on, but I eventually stopped because of no laptop.

I didn't even know about this apparent high pay thing for programmers back then, just until April this year. I don't know what will work out for me but I just don't want to put all my eggs in one basket in this country, lol. Whatever case, good luck to all of us.

With your background in Accounting, I would advise that you should try ALX Financial Analyst program. It is free!!!

TechLiberatedMe:
Hmmm... This sounds so fascinating. Thanks a million.

did you start that ruby ? How has it been going ?

Hannania:
Begin the process now. When you get in, inform them you'll join the September cohort. It's getting competitive daily.

do you honestly feel someone can commence that September cohort and learn the overall bootcamp while working 8-4pm everyday ? Or while schooling ?

DrLevi:
I was quite reluctant to reply to this post because the "which one pays the highest" sounded like greed and greedy people put me off.
But at least you want to hustle legally and earn money instead of crimes and vices and so that should be supported.

Anyway, to your question

Firstly; The highest paid are the Project managers and Tech Lead with decades of experience that work for Fortune 500 tech companies. Switching areas of specialising because one pays more might get you lesser pay as "Years of professional experience" is the golden criteria

Secondly: Since money is the goal, the question shouldn't even be the highest paying. It should be the quicker to getting a paying job. Lower barrier of entry. Because if you are told the highest paying but it take 3 years to get a junior role, can you be that patient?... Exactly

So my personal ranking from lowest barrier to highest:
QA tester
Product manager
UI/UX(product designer)
Web
DevOps/Cloud
Automation
Mobile/Desktop
Game development/3D
Video Editing
IoT and Embedded systems
Drivers

A lot of people might disagree with this list but it was made using certain criteria
1. Hardware requirement. If you don't have a beastly system just forget Mobile and Game/3D... You won't go anywhere(fast). By beastly I mean 16GB Ram, SSD and a good graphic card for Game/3D. Although I started as mobile dev with a 2gb RAM core2duo system, I can tell you it was hell till I got a better system as a gift.
The top 6 can be done on an average computer. So If you can't shell out 200k+ for a computer, your choice is already being made for you.

2. Getting a job: You see those last 2, I doubt there are many Nigerians that work on those full-time. Getting a local job would be hard or even not possible. Hardly will a foreign company send you their hardware to work with remotely and e fit take you years before your first gig
You're more likely to get a job as Web dev, Mobile dev, or UI/UX. Of course, the competition here is rising on a daily basis. So be ready to beat a lot of people to get a job

3. Naturally affinity. I know its about the money, but don't be that Airbender trying to waterbend when you're not the avatar(a genius). What I'm saying is, even if you want the highest paying, if it doesn't want you, it doesn't want you.
Someone who sucks at logic would suck as backend dev and will always be throttled by their inability. Remember, the best make the big bucks not the speciality
So choose an area that resonates with you and what you do best.
If you're a creative with an eye for colour, UI/UX and frontend is perfect
If you prefer logic and architecture, backend or mobile
Automation and processes? DevOps and Automation
Management? Product manager
Nothing will frustrate you in tech than being that fish that wants to climb a tree. Find the ocean and swim with the current

In summary,
how much do you have to invest in hardware?
how long can you patiently learn before the bucks starts flowing? else you find yourself like many devs I know switching stack with every breath they take
what am I good at?
Can I afford to fight off thousands of Nigerians, Indians, Pakistans in this field in a year time?.. Will frustration from rejection mails depress me?

Post the answers to theses questions and the stack chooses you not the other way round

Goodluck man

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Kvngfrosh:
Here



Follow the path below:

1. Learn the basics of HTML, CSS and JavaScript.(Not indept, but basics. On a scale of 10, It should be 5,5 and 6 respectively).

2. Pick up Java. Don't compromise the basics. Learn the syntax and semantics well.

3. Pick up Spring/Spring Boot Frameworks(Understand the MVC)

4. Learn a database. MySQL is ok.

5. Learn Unit testing (This will set you apart and get employers interested in you)

6. Learn Maven, Hibernate, JPA and Maven(These are just implementation processes. Don't be scared. After you learn the basics, you can pick this in 3weeks)

7. Most important part: Build at least two solid projects that implement all the above. Two sold projects are better than vague 10 random projects.

8. If you want to stand out as I did, write one cloud certification. Got Google's scholarship and wrote GCP, and did Microsoft 30 days challenge and got a discount of Azure, which I paid just $40(17k). This will make you irresistible.



All this looks like a lot, but it's what I did in a space of a year. Now our IQ might differ, but dedication and commitment can be the same.

When you do no 7, follow this site to apply for jobs. 2 months after your projects and you'd get a remote pay of $1000 minimum from Poland.

https://justjoin.it/offers/infolet-junior-java-developer-krakow

This is for someone who wants to learn JAVA ?

What can you say about someone who wants to learn back end or front end ?

chukwuebuka65:
bros u need to enter inside restuarant before you ask for menu. when you get the menu, then you can order your favourite. tech is so wide, nobody knows which area you will do best, only you. but as per nigeria we dey so , whether is saturated or not, enter web development. From there, you can then switch .

is web development same as back end and front end ?

Ebubu3:
is web development same as back end and front end ?

Yea, start with front end.

chukwuebuka65:
Yea, start with front end.

thank you. Do you know courses I can start with

I have a 4 gig ram laptop

Ebubu3:
thank you. Do you know courses I can start with

I have a 4 gig ram laptop

Academind on YouTube is a good instructor. Watch his web development beginners guide. Also brad travesy is good as well.

chukwuebuka65:
Academind on YouTube is a good instructor. Watch his web development beginners guide. Also brad travesy is good as well.

thank you very much

Ebubu3:
do you honestly feel someone can commence that September cohort and learn the overall bootcamp while working 8-4pm everyday ? Or while schooling ?

the two time frame is 8-5pm or 3pm to 12am. If you can't meet any, just forget the program. Its not meant for part-time people

Learning so much here, thank you all the gurus in the house. respect!

Ebubu3:
This is for someone who wants to learn JAVA ?

What can you say about someone who wants to learn back end or front end ?

Yes it’s for Java.

Hannania:
the two time frame is 8-5pm or 3pm to 12am. If you can't meet any, just forget the program. Its not meant for part-time people

thank you. But do you advice i have my own android phone to share files with my hp while learning web development ? Or its not necessary thus i can use my iphone and not buy android to share file on my hp laptop

Kvngfrosh:
Yes it’s for Java.

thank you. But do you advice i have my own android phone to share files with my hp while learning web development ? Or its not necessary thus i can use my iphone and not buy android to share file on my hp laptop

Studymore123:
I like your candid posts.

I believe you have the passion and satisfaction. If money is the main driver you'll end up unhappy and moody. Tech pays when you put in the required work, the awareness is increasing and the the competition is also increasing. That itself will be an issue because projects drives demand. Salaries and pay is purely based on economies. There are many factors why tech salaries are high. Factors include revenue generated, demand and supply, value, users.

I tell others if you're serious and put in a considerable hours of work everyday into web dev, you will be guaranteed a starting pay of at least $500 a month in 6 months. That's a good ROI for someone in Nigeria. Many have taken advantage of this opportunity which is nice.
On the other hand, I'm not a fan of learning all the new tech and burning my calories on continuous self development. At this time, I need a work/life balance. I enjoy listening to music and watching movies, playing games, having fun and enjoying life in my little way.

please be my boss