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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:31pm On Jun 28, 2022
pappilo:


do you argue your client's case on social media/blogs or in the courts?

Nope, and I don’t get my facts from social media or bloggers that are habitual liars.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:32pm On Jun 28, 2022
Arielle:

cheesy cheesy I was just going to ask. A few days after the story broke, there was a picture of a passport going with the claim that it belongs to the boy. A passport in the possession of the UK authorities? Nigeria wonder!!!

Yes. They’re passing around a passport when the identity of the boy hasn’t been released by the British authorities.
Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Vatsyayana: 1:33pm On Jun 28, 2022
pappilo:


You are definitely not a lawyer, maybe a tea lady in a low level fim in some backwater US city. You only need reasonable suspicion /probable cause to arrest. These are very low bars. Millions of arrests are carried out based on mere allegations.


Oga, it will be a waste of tax payers money and abuse of power and state resources to charge a person to court based of probable cause in a criminal case.
UK is not Nigeria o. Nobody is talking of arrest here, we are talking of prosecution. The case has gone beyond arrest.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:35pm On Jun 28, 2022
Only in Nigeria will citizens insist on proving to the outside world that a senator they elected and his phd holding wife combined are dumber than a boy they met on the streets of Lagos!

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Onyipk: 1:35pm On Jun 28, 2022
Does the UK doctor think we are all dull over here? Everyone who has a Nigerian Int'l Passport whether you have travelled with it or not has only one age .
From 21 years now to 41 years. Let David sofree o becauae tbis same white people will dump you when they discover your lies.

But why all these noise? Shebi age is the bone of contention? Can they not use the MRI scan that determines the age of footballers to scan and determine David's age instead of all these change of age goal post?

Let justice prevail.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Vatsyayana: 1:35pm On Jun 28, 2022
satandeterrible:

You assumption or concession is immaterial to the facts on ground.
In my rejoinder, I stated clearly that the most they could charge him for is ATTEMPT to financially induce.

Under the law, attempted crime and committing the actual crime are two different offences with different gravities.

The offence is an Inchoate offence in the first place. So whether or not they attempt or prepare, they have committed a criminal offence based on the available facts. And based on your assumption that selling your organ is not a criminal offence in Nigeria. You're yet to provide the Law that permits the sale of organs.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Newton2024: 1:35pm On Jun 28, 2022
chuksbogus:
These are lies. He was never said to be 41 yrs and wasn't only tested and he wasn't a match. Problem started when he noticed they will be going back to Naija and he was the one that went to the police with his cock and bull story and not what this story is saying.
You are a liar like your father, the devil.
At the bolded, when did he tell you that?

'The consultant was concerned about his actual age and was concerned he was not aware he was the donor of the kidney. He only found out that the purpose of his visit was for an organ transplant when he visited the hospital'.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:37pm On Jun 28, 2022
Onyipk:
Does the UK doctor think we are all dull over here? Everyone who has a Nigerian Int'l Passport whether you have travelled with it or not has only one age .
From 21 years now to 41 years. Let David sofree o becauae tbis same white people will dump you when they discover your lies.

But why all these noise? Shebi age is thd bone of contention? Can they not use the MRI scan that determines the age of footballers to scan and determine David's age instead of all these change of age goal post?

Let justice prevail.

Do you think you’re smarter than British officials? Do you really think that they haven’t already performed an MRI and dental exams? But no matter how old he is, the crime they are being charged with is not age specific.

I’ve seen more than a few altered Nigerian passports. There is even a moniker on Nairaland who offers them.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Aguiyimba(m): 1:38pm On Jun 28, 2022
chuksbogus:
These are lies. He was never said to be 41 yrs and wasn't only tested and he wasn't a match. Problem started when he noticed they will be going back to Naija and he was the one that went to the police with his cock and bull story and not what this story is saying.

How sure is your side of story?
Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Newton2024: 1:39pm On Jun 28, 2022
Golan007:


You should know many Nigerians don't reason logically.

As far as they are concerned, a man should be able to extend his own life by exploiting the life of another
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At the bolded, this is the evil mindset of every wealthy but corrupt politician in Nigeria. They see others as less humans. May Ekweremadus rot in jail.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Vatsyayana: 1:39pm On Jun 28, 2022
1stGenAmerican:


Yes. They’re passing around a passport when the identity of the boy hasn’t been released by the British authorities.

I laugh in Queens English.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:40pm On Jun 28, 2022
Vatsyayana:


I laugh in Queens English.

You should continue to laugh at these people defending a couple who probably funded this boy’s travels with looted money.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by TheOldGods: 1:40pm On Jun 28, 2022
chuksbogus:
These are lies. He was never said to be 41 yrs and wasn't only tested and he wasn't a match. Problem started when he noticed they will be going back to Naija and he was the one that went to the police with his cock and bull story and not what this story is saying.
because you were there live, Infront of them when all these things where happening abi!!? The doctor himself said he saw a passport of 41 years old. A doctor who doesn't know the boy, what will a white doctor gain?

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:42pm On Jun 28, 2022
TheOldGods:
because you were there live, Infront of them when all these things where happening abi!!? The doctor himself said he saw a passport of 41 years old. A doctor who doesn't know the boy, what will a white doctor gain?

Good point. The White doctor had nothing to gain and everything to lose therefore he stuck to his oath and made the report. We can be sure this same doctor will appear in court as a star witness. I’m sad that they can’t understand people who operate with integrity.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Vatsyayana: 1:43pm On Jun 28, 2022
1stGenAmerican:


Do you think you’re smarter than British officials? Do you really think that they haven’t already performed an MRI and dental exams? But no matter how old he is, the crime they are being charged with is not age specific.

I’ve seen more than a few altered Nigerian passports. There is even a moniker on Nairaland who offers them.

God bless you. You're indeed an American Lawyer. I'm a solicitor in the UK and I definitely know the process. The age of the child is not in contention for both offences of Modern Day Slavery and Harvesting of Human Organ. The age matters only for the purpose of safeguarding the victim in question.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Newton2024: 1:43pm On Jun 28, 2022
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Cantonese:


Nothing is contradictory. People simply heard that Ekwerenmadu attempted to harvest someone’s organ and they all crucified him instantly. Killing for ritual purposes is rampant in our society, so many then drew the conclusion that Ekwerenmadu was a ritualist. The press went straight to business. His political enemies went straight for his neck.

Now we have heard the story on the other side. The boy himself has told us his own side. Ekwerenmadu has filed a suit before Justice Ekwo asking for the release of vital information that would show the world that he was transparent at all times.

The boy’s neighbors have commented. The boy apparently changed his mind, having japa(d) from Nigeria and was requested to return home, as his kidney did not match. The UK police would try to protect the young man, at least for now. If he loses that case, na handcuff e go carry return to Nigeria.
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'The consultant was concerned about his actual age and was concerned he was not aware he was the donor of the kidney. He only found out that the purpose of his visit was for an organ transplant when he visited the hospital'.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:45pm On Jun 28, 2022
Vatsyayana:


God bless you. You're indeed an American Lawyer. I'm a solicitor in the UK and I definitely know the process. The age of the child is not in contention for both offences of Modern Day Slavery and Harvesting of Human Organ. The age matters only for the purpose of safeguarding the victim in question.

Ha! I knew you were a solicitor by some of the jargon you used throughout this discussion. Thank you for confirming. Pleased to meet you! Unfortunately, there are Nigerians on this forum who have never left Nigeria that proclaim to be better versed in British law than you, an actual UK solicitor!

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by satandeterrible: 1:46pm On Jun 28, 2022
Vatsyayana:


The offence is an Inchoate offence in the first place. So whether or not they attempt or prepare, they have committed a criminal offence based on the available facts. And based on your assumption that selling your organ is not a criminal offence in Nigeria. You're yet to provide the Law that permits the sale of organs.
Nawa for you oo
I already told you that no law prohibits such sale.

Maybe I should also provide a law that permits husband and wife to have sex at night?
Or a law that permits boyfriend lashing his girlfriend?

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:46pm On Jun 28, 2022
satandeterrible:

Nawa for you oo
I already told you that no law prohibits such sale.

Maybe I should also provide a law that permits husband and wife to have sex at night?
Or a law that permits boyfriend lashing his girlfriend?

The sale of organs is permitted everywhere in the modern world except Iran.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Newton2024: 1:46pm On Jun 28, 2022
ChoCho54:
Why would I indulge a blind hater peddling days old story.

'The consultant was concerned about his actual age and was concerned he was not aware he was the donor of the kidney. He only found out that the purpose of his visit was for an organ transplant when he visited the hospital'.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by InvertedHammer: 1:46pm On Jun 28, 2022
pappilo:


People wont understand this. I was on trial in the crown court last summer and whilst I was on the stand, it got so comical that at some point I started laughing at the story the well spoken prosecutor was narrating even though I was facing 6 charges and prison time if convicted.

The prosecutor look at the facts of the case and come up with as plausible a story as possible. In court, lawyers dont say maybe, they say things ike they were there and saw it happen.
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People think it is by shouting online and quoting laws up and down. Inside the legal system is a whole beast of its own. They think that one has to be guilty to be convicted. We have had recent cases of people wrongfully convicted having their convictions overturned after decades in prison. Suspects are just pawns.

The prosecutor may opt for "nolle prosequi" on July 9th. Then what? It is a crazy world indeed.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Newton2024: 1:48pm On Jun 28, 2022
ChoCho54:
Hiss
Thank God U.K is in charge, and not our extremely corrupt 'cash and carry' justice system.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Newton2024: 1:49pm On Jun 28, 2022
Okoroawusa:
I quit reading when they said the boy was picked from the streets of Lagos.... which street of Lagos?

Ekweremadu should have done his homework well before taking that idiot to the UK....my heart goes out to Sonia
Which homework? Hope you are not a ritualist? Thank God U.K is in charge, and not our extremely corrupt 'cash and carry' justice system.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by irumanle(m): 1:51pm On Jun 28, 2022
If the Ekweremadus are found guilty they should be sentence to life imprisonment. The level of impunity by our leaders has become something else. No regards for common man's life.
It's illegal deal, e com go wrong again

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Geopex(m): 1:51pm On Jun 28, 2022
The two issue on ground is all about age and also if the guy know the purpose of visiting the hospital. From the first story, the guy lied that his 15 which term as minor and organ harvesting crime since it is not sure if the boy know he is there to transplant his kidney.
We never know his true face , but from what we have online, which i blived is true. Immigration office have already confirmed the guy passport and real age , and the purpose of his traveling. To all of you saying nonsense here, the senator already write immigration for the details of the guy/ sue them to court in Nigeria and also write British high commissioner. Do u think this is a joke.
The only case on the neck of the senator is the issue of organ harvesting without the intention of the guy. And for me, if i have money, and for secrecy, i may decide to travel abroad to have a test i know i can do in my state. It is a matter of choice. But all i now believe since immigration office have responded to the senator letter, i believed the the guy passport is what we see online and his true age is 21 .

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:51pm On Jun 28, 2022
Vatsyayana:


God bless you. You're indeed an American Lawyer. I'm a solicitor in the UK and I definitely know the process. The age of the child is not in contention for both offences of Modern Day Slavery and Harvesting of Human Organ. The age matters only for the purpose of safeguarding the victim in question.

There is a very lengthy thread that I’d like you to review in your idle time. It involves a Nigerian sentenced to 367 years in American prison. I was in possession on the 1250 page court transcript and CCTV supported the fact that the moniker appealing to Nairaland raped a minor. Can you believe that the mob mentality argued that he was innocent until a moniker in Japan posted an article proving that he had committed sex crimes in Japan as well?
Some of these Nigerians yell propaganda and Western Media yet believe things they see on YouTube. They have no sense of what is and isn’t credible in the real world.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Newton2024: 1:52pm On Jun 28, 2022
inoki247:



Lol there's no way u can Forge Passport, Still Forge NiN And BVN wey e don register since 2019 or u want to tell me Ekweremadu don know d boy since 2019 nd he don know say him daughter go sick....

The boy's lying about the age and easily all the linked KYC documents to his bank and NiN linked to his Passport will cast him so na easy case....


I agree with you that the boy might have lied about his age but do you also agree that he might not be aware that he was to donate his organs to someone's else's daughter?

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:56pm On Jun 28, 2022
Geopex:
The two issue on ground is all about age and also if the guy know the purpose of visiting the hospital. From the first story, the guy lied that his 15 which term as minor and organ harvesting crime since it is not sure if the boy know he is there to transplant his kidney.
We never know his true face , but from what we have online, which i blived is true. Immigration office have already confirmed the guy passport and real age , and the purpose of his traveling. To all of you saying nonsense here, the senator already write immigration for the details of the guy/ sue them to court in Nigeria and also write British high commissioner. Do u think this is a joke.
The only case on the neck of the senator is the issue of organ harvesting without the intention of the guy. And for me, if i have money, and for secrecy, i may decide to travel abroad to have a test i know i can do in my state. It is a matter of choice. But all i now believe since immigration office have responded to the senator letter, i believed the the guy passport is what we see online and his true age is 21 .

The issue is not about the age. Their criminal charges are not age-specific. They are charged with human trafficking, exploitation, and organ harvesting.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 1:59pm On Jun 28, 2022
Newton2024:
I agree with you that the boy might have lied about his age but do you also agree that he might not be aware that he was to donate his organs to someone's else's daughter?

No young man who fully understands the implications of donating a kidney and doesn’t have the money for life-long medical care that’s necessary after donating a kidney would’ve agreed to that.

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by Lighthouse50: 2:00pm On Jun 28, 2022
How did you know?? Why cant he use one of his children atleast to avoid situation like this. My concern was that did the said boy did not have parent? Did the man did not have agreement with the boy's parent? A lot of question that beg for answer. There is more to this matter!

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 2:01pm On Jun 28, 2022
Can one of you Nigerians defending the senator and his wife tell me why no news sources outside of Nigeria are reporting the things being reported inside Nigeria? Is it because outside media outlets have an obligation to fact-check prior to publishing the rubbish Politicians pay Nigerian bloggers to publish?

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Re: Ekweremadu's Donor Was Given A Passport Of A 41-Year-Old - UK Doctor by 1stGenAmerican(f): 2:03pm On Jun 28, 2022
Lighthouse50:
How did you know?? Why cant he use one of his children atleast to avoid situation like this. My concern was that did the said boy did not have parent? Did the man did not have agreement with the boy's parent? A lot of question that beg for answer. There is more to this matter!

No. This is my opinion: I feel they specifically chose him because he didn’t have parents. They chose to exploit him because he was vulnerable and impoverished.
The torso of an African boy was recently found in the Thames River with no organs. I think this boy would’ve ended up the same way had the hospital not made the reports to police.

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