Pidginwhisper:
Yes back to Zero. They players should boycott the National Team.

hatakekakashi:

Seriously!!!

What about the players that left the team? And the spot we lost to Mali? Unfortunately, the damage has been done. Just because of the actions of a small group of people

somehow:

Has the crisis be resolved too or we are back to playing ostrich?

Danielnino00:


More like playing the ostrich.... Sunday Dare probably feel his ego has been soothed enough...

Pidginwhisper:
Yes back to Zero. They players should boycott the National Team.

somehow:


Makes no sense if the crisis is unsolved.

lovewins:


What crises?

Yes there was crises prior to the election but the crises ended once Kida was elected. I really do not like Kida and do not fancy him and NBBF president but he won fair and square.

Only one election held, the other one was a sham.

Kida's election in Benin had a FIBA rep present, NOC rep present, all state chairman save one. He was duly elected. All that was left was for the ministry to acknowledge the election, cause FIBA already did, but Dare chose to play to the gallery. In my opinion, the crises ended by Dare brought it back to life.

somehow:
Got this somewhere.

What do you guys think?

somehow:


You actually believe the crisis ended after the election? If it did, why then was the decision to suspend basketball taken?

Some of what you wrote here aren't true at least from other sources. I posted a screenshot of another narrative on the previous page, kindly check.

somehow:


Did the election fix some of the things here?

lovewins:


Many of those challenges were largely because there was no board known to law at the time. But after the February election the Kida led board was the statutory board and it was their responsibility to begin to fix the mess. The minister however chose to play to the gallery.

Yes it is true that he tried to resolve the crises and both parties chose not to work together, the only way to solve it then was an election.

I'll use the APC primary elections as an example. Many persons called for a consensus candidate, even the president wanted one but an aspirant who was sure he could win said no. It means an election had to hold. What would have been out of place was say another aspirant knowing he would lose decided not to go to Eagles square but instead chose to hold another "primary elections" at the national stadium. He got a few people together and declared himself winner. Mind you, the President wasn't there, the APC NWC wasn't there, INEC wasn't there. Would it then be appropriate to even recognize such an election? It was a sham.

The minister chose to keep a problem that an election had already solved alive. Simple.

This is coming from someone who doesn't even like the Kida presidency

lovewins:


You still do not get my point.

There was a crises in 2017 after the election. 2 elections held but none was recognised by FIBA. FIBA however decided to liaise with Nigeria through Musa Kida pending the time a constitution is drafted and another election happened. (First mistake).

The election after many years took place once the new constitution was ratified by the NBBF general assembly and the ministry. Yes two election took place again but only one was known to law. So in reality there was no longer crises big enough to have impeded the growth of the sports (at least not like 2017). Dare however decided to reawaken it cause his preferred candidate lost.

somehow:


Wrong, you are twisting what happened. FIBA recognised that of the other guy (forgotten his name) which the sport minister and FG frowned against.

If FIBA didn't recognise any, then it would have been very easy for the FG backed fraction to have taken charge.

Why would FIBA at that time threatened to sanction Nigeria for Govt interference?

lovewins:


I won't join issues here with you cause it won't change anything really.

But just so you don't misrepresent the facts in another fora, seek clarification from those who really know. Most of what I shared is public knowledge.

Cheers.

somehow:


Wrong, you are twisting what happened. FIBA recognised that of the other guy (forgotten his name) which the sport minister and FG frowned against.

If FIBA didn't recognise any, then it would have been very easy for the FG backed fraction to have taken charge.

Why would FIBA at that time threatened to sanction Nigeria for Govt interference?

lovewins:


Apparently this just came in

This is what Sunday Dare should have done. After going through the motions and almost wrecking the game, the FG is now choosing to do the right thing.

Hope this brings better clarity to my position.

somehow:


Wrong, you are twisting what happened. FIBA recognised that of the other guy (forgotten his name) which the sport minister and FG frowned against.

If FIBA didn't recognise any, then it would have been very easy for the FG backed fraction to have taken charge.

Why would FIBA at that time threatened to sanction Nigeria for Govt interference?

somehow:


This only showed that the 2 fractions have now seen reason which my questions pointed to.

As long as the crisis is gone, all fine and good..

FIBA and FIFA should also stop boxing African countries to unfavourable corners by allowing countries make decisions that best suit their national interests.

lovewins:


FIBA and FIFA are international organizations with laid down rules part of which includes the non interference of third parties. Government interference is regarded as 3rd parties.

Nigeria and Africa do not necessarily have to be a part of those organizations if we don't like the rules or can't abide by it. It implicitly means we are also ready to bear the consequences ( including not participating in events tied to these organisations) basically every world event. But once we chose to join them the rules are binding on us.

FIBA won't stop Nigeria from organizing BB competitions in Nigeria. We can chose to be sovereign and play by our own rules and do as we please. But we should also be ready not to attend FIBA competitions of we don't like FIBA rules simple. (These includes competitions for the so called grassroots basketball we claim to be developing not just national team engagements)

lovewins:


Just for persons to learn. I'll do a brief

There were two factions the Kida faction and the TJ faction.

Both had parallel elections and both elections were cancelled by FIBA as they both were in violation of FIBA statutes (easily verifiable information).

FIBA however (a big mistake I believe) chose to liaise with Kida pending the time Nigeria solved her internal crises and a new election conducted.

The former minister Dalung couldn't bring both of them to the table till he left. When Sunday Dare came in he also made attempts but all to no avail. It became clear that an election would have to solve the crises. A constitution was drafted (the TJ faction refused to participate with the drafting so shot themselves in the leg) and the constitution approved by both FIBA and the NOC. It was on the premise of that constitution that the election in Benin that brought back Kida had legal standing.

FIBA now only recognises Kida. Even when the FG went through back channels to persuade FIBa they refused.

The FG is now doing what it should have done initially, recognizing the Kida board and allow them serve their 4 year tenure.

By the way, Mark who carried out the other "election" in Abuja is only a stooge for TJ. He is sadly interested in the development on basketball in Nigeria and has carried out several programs to that effect. Olumide was also a part of the TJ faction, but when he noticed how the tide was moving, he decided to go to Benin and participate in the election, now he's the southwest representative on the board.

All verifiable information.

Queenslander:
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Danielnino00:
I imagine us lining up like this:

PG- Vincent
SG- Okogie
SF- Nwora
PF- Metu
C- Achiuwa

Remove okogie his performance of recent is below par
LoL...

Danielnino00:


To be honest, you are right...Okogie has turned out to be disappointing.. but I can't think of a better shooting guard at the moment in the NBA.. Maybe Anunoby.. but he isn't ours yet..

hismail1:
How realistic is our chances playing in Australia?

lovewins:


Not realistic. It's better to assume we won't be there and by some miracle it happens than to keep hope alive.

However, with respect to exploring our chances I can see 2 possibilities:

1. Mali in the spirit of brotherhood withdraws their participation, while also making a case for Nigeria to Nigeria.

2. Nigeria petitions CAS. This is an expensive venture without guarantee of a result. I'm not a lawyer, but not sure what legal standing we have to make a case with CAS.

Outside these 2 I really can't think of any other scenarios. FIBA withdrawing their invitation to Mali and reinstating Nigeria makes them look like unprofessional and is very unlikely.

Danielnino00:
Our rooster for the world cup qualifiers...

IMO, this is a weak squad... The inclusion of home based players who have been inactive for month is unnecessary

Danielnino00:
Our rooster for the world cup qualifiers...

IMO, this is a weak squad... The inclusion of home based players who have been inactive for month is unnecessary