G7 says that they are going to force Russia to them it's oil at half- price. Does anyone know how they can/ will force them to do this ?

https://www.rt.com/business/558280-g7-halve-russian-oil-price/


https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/g7-discussions-with-china-india-russian-oil-price-cap-positive-source-2022-06-28/

If they can do this, what is to stop them in the future from doing the same to any other country. For whatever reason.

Odunayaw:
So you think if it were Russia and CIS states backing Ukraine against only the US, they'd have crushed them by now?

I think you overestimate the US. Iraq was a pariah state. It's not the same situation with Ukraine at all

Yes they would have crush Ukraine to smitten.
Mind you Ukraine is fighting a complete conventional war with Russia. Which small country fit fight conventional war with America no matter the backing? And how will the weapons even be supplied when US don cover your enter airspace with 24/7 surveillance. Except smaller weapon systems like rifle and ATGM but definitely not tanks, air defense or vehicles. Guy forget they only way an Ukraine even with Russia support can hurt the US is through guerilla tactics and not head on. Even with that the US would have initiated a regime change and all you can do is just attack soft target and try inflict some casualiities.

Stormtrooper11:


You win and lose wars. Yeah the United States lost the war in Vietnam but we're talking about conventional warfare here. Actually, I started this conversation in response to JOSCOFELIX talking about the United States having never confronted a well-equipped country in warfare like the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

USA lost the Vietnam war despite the use of biological weapons, that is a disgrace for the so called world power accept this fact.
Don't forget Soviet and China played a major role in that war that humbled Uncle Sam.

Stormtrooper11:

Russia also the war in Afghanistan with higher casualties than the Americans could imagine in Afghanistan!

Yea while Uncle Sam was supporting Mujahideen against the Soviet US war in Afagan was a war of cawardace where 80% of 20years they camped in Kabul and limited to patrol and still lost the war. Taliban are ruling Afagan with USA weapons as we speak, that is reality.

Stormtrooper11:

United States won the war in Korea because the aim of achieving the division of Korea was attained. If the United States lost according to your words then the Koreas would had been one single entity.

Nope, they were disgraced and Seoul fell twice to North korea despite the UN and USA force on ground. USA and UN also tried to invade North Korea but were beaten back badly by the Korea force this is a conventional war yet Uncle Sam couldn't show us the so called power it possess.

Stormtrooper11:


The United States have been winning wars since the 18th century, I don't understand what you mean by the United States not winning "major wars", are you trynna downgrade American technological and economical genius in the face of different adversaries throughout history?!

Please kindly list those war.

Simeonjoe1:


Yes they would have crush Ukraine to smitten.
Mind you Ukraine is fighting a complete conventional war with Russia. Which small country fit fight conventional war with America no matter the backing? And how will the weapons even be supplied when US don cover your enter airspace with 24/7 surveillance. Except smaller weapon systems like rifle and ATGM but definitely not tanks, air defense or vehicles. Guy forget they only way an Ukraine even with Russia support can hurt the US is through guerilla tactics and not head on. Even with that the US would have initiated a regime change and all you can do is just attack soft target and try inflict some casualiities.

Lol


North Korea did and the USA was disgraced

Jesus wept!

All this Russian fanboys won't kill person with laugh.....

Simeonjoe1:


Delusion. I wonder where people get this . In many of these 3rd party cases the American system end up chewing their soviets counterparts.

Let me add a little twist to the vowulence

During 1971 war Pak..... Navy using US/Western origin weapons was decimated by IN using Soviet weapons

During 1971 war in the largest tank battles since WW2 American Patton tanks which were the most advanced of its time, were decimated so much so that where the destroyed Patton tanks were collected it give rise to new place called Pattonnagar , after that US literally junked all its Patton tanks

During same war highly advanced US fighters of that time armed with missiles were held at bay using mix of Soviet and western aircrafts armed with guns only

Nemesis4you:


Let me add a little twist to the vowulence

During 1971 war Pak..... Navy using US/Western origin weapons was decimated by IN using Soviet weapons

During 1971 war in the largest tank battles since WW2 American Patton tanks which were the most advanced of its time, were decimated so much so that where the destroyed Patton tanks were collected it give rise to new place called Pattonnagar , after that US literally junked all its Patton tanks

During same war highly advanced US fighters of that time armed with missiles were held at bay using mix of Soviet and western aircrafts armed with guns only

Just imagine


Western control media and organization always use the word "highly dvance" for their equipment but when tested in battle becomes junky advance

Daily Reminder that the Bear tried eating more than it could chew.

Even Mother Russia secretly admires American F/A-18 hornets

Nemesis4you:


Let me add a little twist to the vowulence

During 1971 war Pak..... Navy using US/Western origin weapons was decimated by IN using Soviet weapons

During 1971 war in the largest tank battles since WW2 American Patton tanks which were the most advanced of its time, were decimated so much so that where the destroyed Patton tanks were collected it give rise to new place called Pattonnagar , after that US literally junked all its Patton tanks

During same war highly advanced US fighters of that time armed with missiles were held at bay using mix of Soviet and western aircrafts armed with guns only

Well in 2019, Soviet Mig 21 testified to western fighter aircraft superiority:

Jai Hind

Stormtrooper11:


Well in 2019, Soviet Mig 21 testified to western fighter aircraft superiority:

Jai Hind

Yes Indeed

Credit to the pilots balls or his foolishness to take on multiple F16s within enemy airspace and his mig21 and for killing a F16 in the process

And if u think F16 was not shot down by Mig21 than u r welcomed as far a i am concerned
but than also u r welcomed to appreciate the effect of that 1 mig21
so much so that Pak... shut down its airspace for 2+ years
All said and done That mig21 did damage equivalent to its weight in gold
Plus as per media reports from across border quoting their minister's few soiled pants including the COAS

Unrelated afaik that SSG member holding the pilot in the pic lost his head while trying to push terrorists across border

And last but not the least that 1 cup of tea was indeed fantastic so much so that in the end......

Stormtrooper11:


So you believe in a context where the USSR with the eastern European states back a country which the US invades, the Kremlin will be capable to halt American all out attack?! Do you think Moscow has the monetary, economic, industrial and will power of the United States?!

I'm not actually a western fanboy but American tactics and strategy in conventional warfare trumps the Russians. I understand that it's better to be a good Strategist than a tactician but Russia is poor especially in strategy.

Just look at how poorly guarded their supply lines were from the beginning of the Operation in Ukraine. I've never seen American tanks being blown up like the Russians except in the second world War. This loss in men and materiel by the Russians shows great incompetence by the Russian High command.

Their advance is slow and methodical. They don't want to alienate the J/Ukes and many ethnic Russians in the warzone.
If it were the U.S. attacking Mariupol,Melitopol, Kherson, Lugansk, Lysychansk not one brick would've been left atop another by the time the B 52s were done!

Have you seen this nemesis4u? Johnnie Turk is now challenging your Tejas Malaysian sale with the Hurjet.

For Africans in an airspace of L59s/Mig 21/23s and F 5s ofc it's a good deal though one issue remains - the Williams FJ 44 is US. Meaning expect an embargo! IIRC their ATAKs had a similar issue with the Phils' order.

GreenandGold:
Skelewu, skelewu, skelewu

This video is more than 7 yrs ago.

jl115:
mmmmmm

Happened more than 20 yrs ago

Stormtrooper11:
Daily Reminder that the Bear tried eating more than it could chew.

later you will tell us you are not pro ukarine and pro west. Just see your post

kikuyu1:


Their advance is slow and methodical. They don't want to alienate the J/Ukes and many ethnic Russians in the warzone.
If it were the U.S. attacking Mariupol,Melitopol, Kherson, Lugansk, Lysychansk not one brick would've been left atop another by the time the B 52s were done!

You damn right bro

Stormtrooper11:


So you believe in a context where the USSR with the eastern European states back a country which the US invades, the Kremlin will be capable to halt American all out attack?! Do you think Moscow has the monetary, economic, industrial and will power of the United States?!

I'm not actually a western fanboy but American tactics and strategy in conventional warfare trumps the Russians. I understand that it's better to be a good Strategist than a tactician but Russia is poor especially in strategy.

Just look at how poorly guarded their supply lines were from the beginning of the Operation in Ukraine. I've never seen American tanks being blown up like the Russians except in the second world War. This loss in men and materiel by the Russians shows great incompetence by the Russian High command.

I asked a simple question actually.

Do you think the war would have wrapped up by now, all objectives completed, if it were the US

Modified:
(For the bolded)

Yes, I think so! The political and materiel cost will be too great.

Again, I tell you, the US only brings it's military might against pariah states. The US would flounder in Europe without NATO

For the record no Pak F-16 was shot down by Indian Mig-21. It wasn't a movie. The Pakistan Air Force won the recent air war with India and there exists empirical evidence to support these facts. It is one sided Indian propaganda that says otherwise. All US made Pak F-16s are accounted for which contradicts indian lies. Also it was a Pakistani J-17 that shot down the Indian Mig-21 from within Pakistani Airspace.

Simeonjoe1:


Yes they would have crush Ukraine to smitten.
Mind you Ukraine is fighting a complete conventional war with Russia. Which small country fit fight conventional war with America no matter the backing? And how will the weapons even be supplied when US don cover your enter airspace with 24/7 surveillance. Except smaller weapon systems like rifle and ATGM but definitely not tanks, air defense or vehicles. Guy forget they only way an Ukraine even with Russia support can hurt the US is through guerilla tactics and not head on. Even with that the US would have initiated a regime change and all you can do is just attack soft target and try inflict some casualiities.

Where do I begin with you like this

Simeonjoe1:


Delusion. I wonder where people get this analogy that Russia weapon is better than US counterparts let's take them both out of the equation. Battle btw 3rd parties has shown US to be superior. Check how American weapons performed in the Iraqi/Iran conflict against their soviet counterpart (note that Iraqis even have the advantage). Or check the Isrealis use of American systems during the conflict with Arab collisions against their soviet counterparts. In many of these 3rd party cases the American system end up chewing their soviets counterparts.

I dey watch you og

Odunayaw:
I asked a simple question actually.

Do you think the war would have wrapped up by now, all objectives completed, if it were the US

Modified:
(For the bolded)

Yes, I think so! The political and materiel cost will be too great.

Again, I tell you, the US only brings it's military might against pariah states. The US would flounder in Europe without NATO

The fact Stormtrooper don't want to accept

Covert1:
For the record no Pak F-16 was shot down by Indian Mig-21. It wasn't a movie. The Pakistan Air Force won the recent air war with India and there exists empirical evidence to support these facts. It is one sided Indian propaganda that says otherwise. All US made Pak F-16s are accounted for which contradicts indian lies. Also it was a Pakistani J-17 that shot down the Indian Mig-21 from within Pakistani Airspace.

Although there were reports that the US department of defence denied honouring Pakistan's invitation to count it's F-16s physically and by the way you can't blame the downed pilot for the loss, MiG 21 is an obsolete aircraft but the leadership of Indian airforce did not deem it fit for retirement and scrapping.
Nevertheless I'm just happy it was a JF-17 that shot down a Russian aircraft so for those ones who thinks Chad can r@pe our airforce with their MiG-29s, let's see that happen on the watch of our JF-17s or maybe not

Paris keen to help Abuja create light aviation unit
The French armed forces are keen to be involved in the creation of a light aviation unit within the Nigerian Army. There is a chance that Airbus will supply helicopters, but despite Paris' support, competition from Turkey's TAI and Italy's Leonardo remains tough. [...]

https://www.africaintelligence.com/west-africa/2022/07/04/paris-keen-to-help-abuja-create-light-aviation-unit,109796744-art

kabe1:
Paris keen to help Abuja create light aviation unit
The French armed forces are keen to be involved in the creation of a light aviation unit within the Nigerian Army. There is a chance that Airbus will supply helicopters, but despite Paris' support, competition from Turkey's TAI and Italy's Leonardo remains tough. [...]

https://www.africaintelligence.com/west-africa/2022/07/04/paris-keen-to-help-abuja-create-light-aviation-unit,109796744-art

The way west seems to remember nigeria all of a sudden in the arms industry is alarming

davefurn:

The way west seems to remember nigeria all of a sudden in the arms industry is alarming

to give you option they can sanction

JOSCOFELIX:
to give you option they can sanction

same strategy everytime

kabe1:
Paris keen to help Abuja create light aviation unit
The French armed forces are keen to be involved in the creation of a light aviation unit within the Nigerian Army. There is a chance that Airbus will supply helicopters, but despite Paris' support, competition from Turkey's TAI and Italy's Leonardo remains tough. [...]

https://www.africaintelligence.com/west-africa/2022/07/04/paris-keen-to-help-abuja-create-light-aviation-unit,109796744-art

if USA will clear the engines Tai will win. Turkey is using it close relationships with the president to change things. Italy leonardo have alway being good in lobbying thing to it favor especially adding benefits to there equipment bought from them. But I don't think they have political backup at this point

davefurn:

same strategy everytime

The world is not even paying attention to these guys