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Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by BlaqFaze: 6:36am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jodera:They played on Mane's "timidness" if I were to call it that...Mane had to wait after the UCL final waiting for an improved deal but Liverpool felt that anything they offer, Mane will sign. I'm just saying Mane deserved better...I mean look out how Dembele (a 150m flop) put Barca on the edge before signing a new contract.. |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by EgusiShankly: 7:54am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Kloppo:Even when his agent debunked the story as false, they wud rather stick to figures from blog sites without concrete evidence |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 8:15am On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz:Lol, you still don't get where I'm driving at? Salah came 2017 and was earning around 90-100k. Before he signed this new contract worth 350-400k he was already earning around 200k. What does that tells you? It means Salah have already signed an improved contract from that 90/100k to around 200k as he was banging in those performances. Now he has improved his contract again from 200k to around 350-400k. What did Mane agent do all these while for his client? |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 8:21am On Jul 18, 2022 |
BlaqFaze:Mane is "timid" and his agent no try too. During his time at Liverpool, Mane went to 3 UCL finals. Why do they have to wait till the 3rd UCL final to make their decision known that they want to improve their contract? In contrast to Salah, This present Salah's improved contract of over 300k isn't his first improved contract here. 1 Like |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 8:25am On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz:He isn't replacing Mane. That is Diaz Mane was a left winger while Nunez is a striker. So if you wan put eye for anybody it should be Diaz |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 8:31am On Jul 18, 2022 |
BlaqFaze:Same here too. This is exactly my thoughts too. I mean, every player wages we know them. We can easily check sites and blogs and we'll see it always align. But e reach Mane own now, them say make we no dey check sites again So technically, they're telling us not to even believe that Salah is even earning around 350-400k na since we'll need to wait for his agent to talk too |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by kendrick93(m): 8:51am On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz:LMAO.. someone earning a 100k grand plus other bonuses is what you call mistreated.. what would you then call someone earning below a minimum wage? |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by kendrick93(m): 8:52am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jodera:mane turned to a striker his final five months at the club |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Minemrys: 11:48am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Eaziimoney:Thanks... your opinion saved lives. |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 12:01pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
kendrick93:Meaning he's just a stop gap then. He's just warming the place before a legit Striker comes. So we're still saying same thing. Nobody replaced him Diaz came and pushed Mane from his wing to a new role. So it's Mane who was replaced by Diaz |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Minemrys: 12:03pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jodera:Why I brought the freaking comparison was to squash the idea that Mane was mistreated. And speaking of colleagues, I don't know what Mane earned but if he was earning lesser than his colleagues, Liverpool aren't to blame but his agent. And speaking of agent, his PR agent already debunked the salary thing. People want to bring the idea of racism and mistreatment forgetting the fact that he earns far more than some British guys. Mane may deserve the Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, De Bruyne wages but these guys who call themselves fans of Liverpool don't know who runs the club or how the club is run. Compared to the big guns, our kit sales don't produce the money United, Real Madrid, Barca command. Sponsorship is another thing. And the way FSG run, they want to make the club self sufficient to pay for what it earns. So you can't have players signed on to big wages if the club can't afford it. Besides there are other staffers in the club that are being paid. |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 12:33pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
Minemrys:Lol, I also agree with you that Liverpool aren't to blame but his agent. I even told him that. One thing you'll agree with me is that mane is arguably one of the top3 Liverpool best player during his time here. 100k nowadays is for average players or new signing coming from a different league or club that isn't big, so he deserves more than that. Another thing is that Liverpool is a big club. This is the club that Firmino earns almost 200k, Chamberlain earns like 150k, thiago, Van dijk earns very very high(all as basic wages), top why can't mane who is one of the top performers earn high too? Abi na only Mane kit sales and sponsorship deals dey affect?? Also his Agent saying he earns more is just watering down the situation and his Fvck up. He didn't say what mane earns, and he Only said it when mane left Liverpool. This is something that everyone knew his wages was 100k for a very long time, why is it now that he's no longer a Liverpool player that he now saying it? I don't believe that Mane was mistreated but one thing I do know is that 100k is too small for someone of Mane calibre at a big club like Liverpool who even pays players with lesser calibre higher. All In all, na mane and him agent Fvck up |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by mikuz(m): 12:40pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
kendrick93: I hope you don't own a company cos you go pay your employees peanuts. Paying a club legend 100k is worse than mal treatment it is SLAVERY. Mane is not just "someone" he is a club legend. |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by mikuz(m): 12:45pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jodera: Liverpool can still go ahead and increase his salary without receiving a request from his agent as a form of extra motivation bros |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by mikuz(m): 12:53pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
The disrespect for Mane in this thread is disturbing. |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by mikuz(m): 1:07pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jodera: Given our formation, how would you play Mane, Salah and Diaz in the front 3 without benching anyone? |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 1:09pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz:Lol, I wish it can but it doesn't work that way. That's why it's always good to have good agents |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 1:10pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz:Why can't I bench Diaz? The only untouchables are Mane and Salah, any other person can be benched |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by mikuz(m): 4:44pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jodera: Ok fine. Now that he has asked for increase why didn't they approve it instead of letting him go? |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 6:29pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz:It's not a must for a club to approve especially as they've found someone that can potentially replace him easily (Diaz) Heard of this proverb: "strike while the iron is hot" The time for Mane to have receive close to 200k and above is around 2017 or so and not now that he's 30yrs old and already have a replacement balling Even Salah would have been ditched having reached the wrong side of age and asking for that amount if he wasn't producing balon d'Or numbers (highest goalscorer and assist award) 1 Like |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by kendrick93(m): 6:44pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz:I'm very sure he would have been earning over a 200 grand if he had agreed to sign a new one... Besides Liverpool salary is heavily performance base.. So using his base salary of 100k or whatever is nonsense... He earns much more than 100k every week that I'm sure of |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by mikuz(m): 8:13pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jodera: - Fastest hatrick in the Premier League - Liverpool's record scorer away from home in the Champions league - The Senegalese player with the most goals in the Champions League - Premier League record - the first player to score in nine consecutive league games against the same opponent. - Second player to score away hatrick in CL. A prophet is not recognised in his home town. This disrespect for Mane is disturbing. A club legend? He asked for salary increase, you did not only reject it ,you went ahead to buy his replacement and pushed him from his natural position to accommodate his replacement. If that's not disrespect then I don't know what it is. Bayern have given us a sample of how a club should treat a legend, they are not only going to pay him more than twice his salary at Liverpool, they broke their transfer policy just to sign him. Diaz can not replace Mane even with age on his side, anyone who tells you otherwise is playing himself. Time will vindicate me. Liverpool no try abeg |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by mikuz(m): 8:19pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
kendrick93: You are sure of this, you are sure of that but no proof to back it up. How you come up with so many sure things without concrete evidence is beyond me. Even with all these nobody is bold enough to give us the real figure. Of all Liverpool players why is Mane's salary the only one that's undisclosed. Is he a cultist? |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 10:26pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz:Football no dey do emotions. They're always doing what is best for business. Contracts is based on expected potential and not past records. In fact, some of the records you talked about wasn't even done in Liverpool while some he made it by virtue of him being a Senegalese player. So na all that things dem go look if dem wan dash am 300k? Because of emotional sentiments? Bayern needs him cos They're losing Lewandowski. Liverpool is shrewdly selling a player at the wrong side of age (30yrs), while getting a good player in Diaz. You should be happy that you've a player for the future instead of being stuck in the past with Mane. And yes, Mane wasn't at his very best this season before being drafted to CF. He wasn't also even great last season as well. I don't know why you feel Liverpool should give him 300k. The only person deserving of that amount is Salah and rightly so. That doesn't stop him from being a legend or one of Liverpool's best players of this era Just wish Mane success and wish your Diaz and Nunez success here too. It's that simple 1 Like |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by mikuz(m): 11:11pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jodera: No be emotions, his records speak for him. He was a legend at Liverpool, you cannot take that away from him no matter what you say. Na you dey even talk with sentiments the way you are selling him short. For example which of the records did he not achieve at Liverpool? Is he the only Senegalese player to grace the EPL? Quit with this talk about Mane being 30 that's why we sold him please, e no gel. Oliver Giroud was 35 when he transferred to Milan, he went there and delivered the league to them. Diego Milito was 30 when he moved to Inter Milan,he came and delivered the league and Champions league. There are many other players over 30 out there who transferred and excelled. As far as I'm concerned, I don't think age will stop Mane from delivering too at Bayern. Bayern did not buy Mane because Lewy was leaving, they bought him because he was a legend at Liverpool. He is a quality player and a complete footballer. Besides there are many strikers willing to play for a top club like Bayern, yet they went for Mane. There is a good reason for that. Last season Harry Kane played 37 games in the league and scored 17 goals, Mane played 34 and scored 16, but Kane had a good season but Mane should be sold because he had a terrible league season. That Mane doesn't post Salah numbers should not stop him from earning 300k. He deserves it. Most players in the league are not half as good as Mane yet they earn twice as him. I don't wish anyone failure bros, just calling a spade a spade. Datz all. |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 11:42pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz: Lol .. 1.How many Senegalese players played in Liverpool aside Mane?. Maybe one or two and the only person I know is Diouf. So even if the total is 3 sef, do you see that the sample is small? It's just like saying Salah is the best Egyptian to play in Liverpool when obviously he's the only candidate 2.. You're shouting 300k for Mane. This is for high standard players. Would you give someone 300k just because he's a legend and not because of what he's expected to offer? Only Salah merits that presently in Liverpool and that's fact. Meanwhile, give me players in this EPL earning 300k lemme see. I'll be waiting 3.. Are you comparing Serie A slow paced league to EPL?. Giroud can go and shine there at 35 or so, but he can't try that in EPL. Even Mane will shine in bundesliga seeing that he's in a best team and the disparity in strength between Bayern and others is very very high. Same can't be said for Liverpool and EPL where one needs to up his game every week Finally, I'm not disputing Mane legendary status. I support Liverpool for not giving Mane 300k solely because; he's a legend, he's the best Senegalese player, he scored fastest hattrick and bla bla bla. There's more to that to worth that amount especially in a club like Liverpool who have wage structure 1 Like |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Minemrys: 12:16am On Jul 19, 2022 |
Jodera:Again, we don't know for a fact what his wages were. Mainstream media didn't carry it and Mane's PR agent already debunked it. |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by mikuz(m): 12:23am On Jul 19, 2022 |
Jodera: Mane is the greatest Senegalese player to play in the Premier league. He's not the only candidate. Mane is a 300k player, don't be deceived. If Timo Werner can earn 272k what more a more talented player like Mane. He got less than he deserved at Liverpool,that's a fact. You are confident that Diaz will win us the league yet you lack faith in Mane who has been tested and trusted. I laugh. What's so special about the EPL when Man City is running riot over there every season? They finally turned the almighty EPL to a one man show, winning it 4 times in 5 years. They even won it last season without a striker. So what's so special about the EPL again? Even if they bench Haaland and play Zlatan as top striker they might likely win it if we don't mount a reasonable challenge this term. More over, there is no much difference in the EPL last season and Burndesliga so how do you justify the difference in strength between Bayern and other teams? Let us even forget the 300k. Assuming we offered him about the same amount Bayern are paying him now he would have still been a Liverpool player. |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 8:50am On Jul 19, 2022 |
Minemrys:Lol... If you say so |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by Jodera: 9:12am On Jul 19, 2022 |
mikuz: 1... He's the "greatest Senegalese" to play. That one na for him pocket and him Senegalese people. He's a great player and a legend for Liverpool and one of EPL best players. Simple. Abi you think say Salah worth the 350k a week because "he's the greatest Egyptian to ever Grace the EPL"? 2.. I said call me any player in EPL that worth 300k and above let's see whether dem be average compared to Mane. Moreover, I told you wage structure for clubs are different so I don't know why you're calling Werner. A Werner won't see the amount in Liverpool or man city with their wage structure. 3. I didn't say Diaz will win league or not, I just said he have shown signs of replacing Mane so that you guys won't feel his loss that much. That's how a good club is run. 4. EPL is a fast paced league and it's a league that presently have the most of the current best players assembled by best current coaches at their prime. Meaning the best coaches currently who in turn makes great teams are situated presently in epl. You can't compare them to Serie A in any aspect at all where we no even know the current best coaches or crop of best players. That an Ibra (a striker) of 41 years is still playing there tells you how slow paced that league is which is convenient for guys like Giroud and others. 5.. Lol, you're seeing this through the lens of "Mane must stay at Liverpool at all cost" when even Mane doesn't see it that way . When Liverpool was negotiating deal with Mane for an improved contract, an offer came from Bayern. Mane then made his intention known that he'll want to leave and go to Bayern. Liverpool didn't even want to sell Mane sef but have to respect Mane wishes just because of the legend he is and all what he has done for them. So yes, I believe they would have reached a compromise at maybe 250 or so if not for Bayern's interest and Mane wanting to leave So don't blame the decision on Liverpool but Mane who wanted to leave following Bayern's interest |
Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by mikuz(m): 1:55pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Jodera: Show me a striker who has helped his team win everything in club football being paid 100k. No be only face paced EPL, na Cheeter EPL. League wey City dey win like water. In the past 5 years : Man City 4/5, Bayern 5/5, what's the difference? Liverpool won't have bought Diaz if they had long term plans for Mane. You wanted to increase his salary yet you bought his replacement 1.5 years before his contact expiration, who does that? Bayern are paying 250k for a 30 year old player they just bought. Imagine if they had signed Mane in his prime. Na 400k dem for dey pay him by now. They are not simpletons, they know his worth. Liverpool were not ready to pay him more than 250k that's why he left. You are going to make Salah the highest paid player on the EPL yet you can't pay Mane 250k. No be so bros. I hope we don't pay dearly for letting Mane go. |
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